WAR Production Video Podcast #14 - RvR Keeps and Siege

[Natachi123]

The bottom line is this, They didnt incorporate anything to draw people into AND populate the RvR lakes.

The lakes are sparse. Lesson learned (i think) DONT DESIGN A GAME WHERE THE RVR LAKES = 15% OF THE TOTAL GAME WORLD. (no mobs, 3-4 quests, hollow)

god how could they have fucked this game up so horribly..

The Keeps arent in strategic points, they are afterthoughts, you can get around them if you want.

40 WP

Black Crag

RIP soon Warhammer, dont die too slow, fast painless death please.

[Natachi123]

LOLOLOL - 5-6 months later

WOW this game epic failed. The siege weapons in this game is a JOKE. People dance on the walls and /laugh because they dont even hurt!

Oil isn't even that deadly if healers are paying attention.

Keep siege = boring, and most of the time it consists of capturing undefended keeps to farm RPs/Inf Points.

The Non-RvR victory point system is what is killing this game. PvE affecting ORVR was a disaster. This is what happens when non-DAOC Devs work on WH. FAIL.

[bluegamer11]

lol to bad the oil killed you

[45yourtube]

it's going to be so sweeet battles :P

[TheMadOne72]

BATERING RAAAMS!

[Wanzerman123]

ORCY!!!! WAAAGH!

[gurdil19]

thats so cool, i love the concepts theyre doing with that game, but i was wondering: what if 2 guilds claim the same keep? and can a guild control more than one keep?

[hristo7777]

I was wondering what do more experienced people think. Will all races have about same percentage of people, or will in end game, all move to lets say dwarfs vs greenskins or some other races BGs

[zallirog2002]

I think there will be a good balance because there are specific classes that certain races only on both sides can fill. Dwarves can only be tanks some range dps and healers. Those are the only roles dwarves can fill so you see that most people that want melee dps will not be playing dwarves very much unless they want to melee dps with a tank dwarf lol.

[21shade12]

.. every race has a Tank.. melee DPS and a healing class..

[gornelos]

soooo...u can fight only in ur 4 zones???cant i go as a witch hunter into elven lands and fight there?"??or explore the world and stand under a tree for 5 hours cuz i like the scenery and i m a geek?:P

[sbmillionair]

you can go to other races zones

[hristo7777]

indeed :)

[RukilDentarg]

Aaaaw, Paul's losing his english accent ^_^ poor guy, thats what happens when you go abroad for too long. Paul Barnett is a fantastic creative director, so much energy!

[DemonKnight1992]

i do have one question:If i'm a guild of dark elves and attack a dwarven keep(obviously i've come with the rest of my guild and such)would it become a orc keep(in a orc v.s dwarf RVR are remeber)or will it become my races keep?

[nintendo556]

Guilds are just not one race eks if u are a Dark elf and join a guild name Darh order, members in is orc,chaos,dark elfs. and its a keep per faction it this caze order and destruction:)

[Baow93]

I heard somewhere that a guy from tier4 cant enter tier1 and fight there. But what happends of one team let's say the greenskins only have tier4 players and no tier1 players and the dwarfs has tier1 players then the dwarfs will be able to capture tier1 extremely easy.

[ORCA4312]

That seems right to me. The designers have said that all tiers will be important in the RvR struggle. If only dwarves are in tier one, then the greenskins had better start rolling some alts and get adventuring. That, or fight the dwarves as chickens.

[Rift855]

but it will balence the upper tiers aswell so the capital wont be so vulnerable.

[Hauris]

They're already listening to their players more than blizzard, and the game's not even out yet

[DemonKnight1992]

it's funny cause it really is true.I've sent a message tyo blizz before saying something they need to improve on WoW(like a year ago)and they still haven't done anything or fixed the bug there.

[Bargainking77]

gettin killed by 6 year olds... lolololololol

[nintendo556]

will u able for EKS if u are a Orc travel to Chaos lands and aid em? plz answer

[ORCA4312]

I saw in another video, that yes, you can go to other races' areas and fight.

[nintendo556]

Thx;)

[ORCA4312]

If only guilds can claim a keep, what happens if members of more than one guild attack a keep. Who claims it if victorious?

[Hauris]

ORCA4312, if many guilds attack, you all get vitory points, but the guild who helped the most and did the most work will get the keep

[ORCA4312]

Hmm. Maybe. I later saw some info suggesting that there is a single spot to plant your guild's standard. First one to get there, plants his guild's standard, and they own the place.

[ISLabroboyz]

what happens if you get control of the whole realm

[dragyth]

you explode becaause of the overwhelming power

[sxcdanual]

im so excited i pooped a little

[chromakey84]

will it cost money to play?

[kinetic2501]

yep.

[Omarllll]

What? do you need to pay every month??

Or just money to buy the game.

[colony343]

monthly fee.

like wow.. but better

WAAAGH!!

[Damagon5th]

Corresction: WAAAGH!!!

There are 3 "!", said the lady at camic con at the WAR display

[colony343]

lies! there are no female orks!

[DarkNinja6th]

i never said an orc said it... it was a lady at comic con at the demo

[PointImpact]

God, I love Paul and his enthusiasm! Makes me even more excited to play.

[Guitarherochamp123]

What is the highest level in warhammer online???

[drumjunky7]

I believe it is 40

[timaces]

40 but that's not the main goal of war

[colony343]

40. but thats expandable (expansion packs liek wow)

but remember hitting level 40 is not the aim of the game.. the aim of the game is to hit your opposing army hard!

[Guitarherochamp123]

What is the highest level in warhammer online???

[drumjunky7]

gaining xp by RvR and not just PvE - my dream come true!

[lard444]

what if multiple greenskin guilds attack and kick out the dwarves from a tier 4 keep, who will claim the keep? can it be divided? will they have to draw straws?

[goonz14]

don't think guilds claim the capital city m8 just battle keeps

[goonz14]

haven't rly understood yet thou where the battle keeps are.. are they in the scenarios or sumit?

[drumjunky7]

the keeps are in open field areas

[lard444]

wow goonz, you are a poor listener and reader =/

I said keeps in my question, not capital cities, and in the video they said in open areas, not instances.

At any rate, i'm starting to doubt the likely hood of multiple ownerships, their will probably be a deciding factor... maybe first to attack, ect.

[goonz14]

yea prolly.. relax mate wasn't meant to be any jump at or anythin ; ) but the guild that is prepared for it fastest and progresses fastest will prolly be able to raid it the most yeah

[sioc88]

lol when he was talking about the tag open world rvr .. i was like YES they are learning from wows shity open world pvp cause that is EXACTLY how it is

[JonSe89]

Wow had awesome outdoor PvP (Astranaat vs. Splinter tree/ Southshore vs. Tarren Mill). Then battlegrounds ruined it because they offered really good rewards. Plus they added dishonor kills so people wouldn't kill civilian NPCs. Before BGs, people did pvp just for fun.

RvR system of WAR seems really awesome. Hehe, Paul and Jeff got "a little bit" excited. :P

[sioc88]

i know what you mean dude .... did all that back int he day before battlegrounds .. raiding towns ... bgs ruined that.... then they added the tower thing in plaugelands and outland ... it was just like how the dude in the podcast described it ... for me elite archer trools on the ogrimmar roofs that hit you for 2k per hit was the end of wow for me .. world pvp ruined 100%

[Troo44]

whats the purpose of Keeps?

[Salmo77]

WAR! :D

[Troo44]

WAR!!!Craft!!!

[nhiviet]

wat if no players are in the keep only npcs... theyll run in with siege weps lmao

[Troo44]

i wonder how they will balance out Siege weapons

[colony343]

WAAAAAGH!

[fullfist]

lol "too bad that the oil killed you" xD

[snakeyesx]

sweet baby jesus, the open world rvr is why I wanted the game, and now they made it better >:)

[Asynce]

Can't agree more the PvP / RvR in Warhammer is looking better and better :)

[colony343]

now heres a question, how are they going to keep he PvP intresting to the lower levels? take WoW for expample unless your the max level for a battle ground or your level 60+ your never very inclined to PvP

[Daxten]

WoW is a very bad example for PvP...

go play DaoC then u know what real PVP is :)

[wizardaim]

indeed.. wow aint pvp friendly really, but if you want an answer to that, go n try or read about the pvp system in DoaC, DoaC is famous for having the best pvp system. I hope WH will make it similar...

[noobshuffle123]

rofl awesome

[davyboy2142]

they both rock :D