@Vishvisher Thank you,, I guess theres just alot of idiots out there looking to see point system fighting with those beautiful Van Damme kicks, they have no idea how tiresome real fighting with contact is and about the process of elimination. Obviously, if these 2 are fighting and they are balck belts in Kyokushin, size and belt rank makes NO difference. Thanks for the comment
@intromix actually dolph wasnt a black belt just yet. i think he was a green, which is why ppl were so shocked. a green belt beating up more advanced students.
@intromix well actually height does help alot lol. i saw a full contact kyokushin fight where two guys both start doing the spinning hook kick at the exact same time. taller guy with longer legs hit the shorter guy even though the kick was executed at the exact same time and at the same speed. the range of your punches and kicks are much longer when your taller.
@ssjanime250 I think you might be referring to Jean Riviere from Canada,, at the time he was 300 Pounds and did a spinning back kick at the same time as the Japanese fighter and knocked him out cold, SCARY
@intromix Thats Not Always True, Because A long Leg or a Long Arm has a longer travelling distance before maximum Impact
So if there would be a smaller guy and a bigger guy, both doing a kick at the same speed the smaller guys leg would be faster to reach its full power and capacity
come on... that was a very unfair fight... that looks like me picking on a twelve year old hahahah!!! I could see the frustration in the other guys eyes! LOL!
@NikKast1981 Maybe you like to watch the point system,, where there is NO contact and you win based on speed,,, in that case,, go watch a Bruce Lee movie
@NikKast1981 You make NO SENSE,,This is a full contact system,, which means DOLPH KNOCKED HIS OPPONENT ON HIS ASS,, THERE IS NO MARTIAL ART OUT THERE TOUGHER THAN KYOKUSHIN, as I said, go watch a Bruce Lee or Jean Claude Van Damme movie,,, KYOKUSHIN WILL NOT LOOK "PRETTY" which sounds to me you like to watch Tae Kwon Do,,, or Kung Fu,,, or even Jet Li,,, where they "look like flying, jumping, dancing, pretty, spinning kicks,,,if THAT is your definition of "REAL" Martial Arts,
@intromix This is no different than a street fight by people who have never ever learned martial arts....Of course Dolph was young then but come on....But yes i do like to see "pretty" moves when i see martial arts, steven seagal does them, jean claude does, chackie chan does, jet li does and so do another 100 martial arts people i know, so what does that mean, that they don't know what they are doing ?
@NikKast1981 When I first started this style of Karate (Kyokushin) I QUICKLY realized how UN-EFFICIENT Hollywood Martial Arts Is VS REAL Martial Arts, to ME, REAL Martial Arts is FIGHTING, I am a FIGHTER, Dolph is a FIGHTER, you mess with Dolph on the streets,, he will F.I.G.H.T. you,, punch you, kick you,,knee you, knock you DOWN TO THE GROUND, not a Van Damme Helicopter kick like you see in the movies,, it's TOTALLY INNEFECTIVE, Ask Chuck Zito, who DESTROYED your boy Van Damme in a real FIGHT
@intromix So, to answer your question "REAL" do you want to defend yourself or put on a SHOW? you can look so pretty with all these flying kicks and punches but when these blows land on your opponent and you dont STOP him from killing you, is it worth a flying kick that will cost you your life? if someone goes to attack you are you going to look PRETTY or try to beat the hell out of him, punch and kick him, knee him in the head to KNOCK HIM OUT? Real fighting isnt made to look PRETTY my friend
@intromix I really would like to see Dolph going up against Seagal, now that would be fun to watch.....Until something like that happens however i still believe that this kind of martial art sucks big time, thats all.
@intromix Also, fighting isnt made to look pretty. But it can look pretty dumbass! And this fight aint pretty, its ugly. I have no doubt Dolph would kill me in seconds but this fight is rubbish. I agreed the guy who had been asking for pretty moves is a fucking dumbass. Steven Seagal, Van Damme, why what the fuck does he think this fight is fake?
@fuckingkimura EXACTLY!! Thats why I said what I said to him,,, trust,,, if you were training full contact Karate, you would understand how impromptu this would look. and yes, it DOES look sloppy,, but if you have no experience on these leg kicks,, not only does it hurt like hell, you can break your shin bone EASILY,,, and its happened MANY times,,, so to the DUMBASS that said "you call this Martial Arts" WTF? Does it look like CANDY fighting?! BTW,, George St Pierre trains Kyokushin also
@intromix As I said, I have all the respect for fighters and karateka. I know Kyokushin Karate is badass, Andy Hug, Fransico Filho, GSP... they are all great fighters, I only tried to correct you that 1. karate is in no way the toughest martial art 2. this fight is not a good example of karate, not every karate fights are like this, not every fights are about being "ugly" and tough
@NikKast1981 Film fighting is much different from real fighting. Real fights are impromptu. Actually, this vid looks like typical full contact karate. If you train in martial arts (full contact), you'll gain HUGE appreciation for the fights that seem impromptu and "sloppy" if you may describe. Because nothing is certain, you need to limit your movements so that you're least vulnerable, all the while using the most power you can exert. Watch some UFC, you'll get what I mean. Respect.
@NikKast1981 However, I'll admit that intromix is pretty intent on bashing flashy moves. They're definitely high risk, but there are fighters who are flashy and are very successful. I am guilty of being pretty flashy, using flying kicks, superman punches, spinning backfists. I dont use them often because it's tiring, but people have pulled it off. Look up Genki Sudo or Cung Le. Anderson Silva's pretty flashy too at times. Or freaky. If you take up Karate, it'll be like intromix said. Unflashy.
@intromix pppppffffftttttt I have all the respect for any karateka or fighters or martial artist, but calling kyokushin karate the toughest martial art is unreal. Check out MMA, where you would get pummeled and pounded on, where strikes to the face is actually allowed, or even Muay Thai, elbows knees HUGE whip kicks in a very contained area. I remember watching a video where Musashi(kickboxer) started to urinate blood after one of his K-1 fights.
@superstrangevideo Let Dolph hit YOU like that and call it patty cake. If you have eyes and can see clear, this iis full contact karate, not point system
@Theyellowma The world open tournament is one open weight division and has always been so. Other tournaments have light, medium, heavy and super-heavy weight divisions, but in the world open, everyone fights in one single elimination tournament -however unfair that is to the lighter fighters.
Although exceptional middle weight fighters have won (Kenji Midori, 5th world tournament, 1991), it is not a common occurrence. Lightweights don't even try.
3grade black-belt in fullkontakt karate, European, Swedish and Australian champ and Captain of the Swedish karate team. He whas the american team leader at the olympics 96 in Atlanta. so don´t say that he is not a great martial art athlete! (and he killed Apollo Creed in Rocky IV :@ )
It's kind of cool to see an old action hero fighting for real. A lot of actors have to rely on their "tough guy" image, but you never really know their ability to fight in real life.
yeah,i know the pressure points are illegal in MMA.but the Karate-Ka can use them outside of Kumite,so that gives the Karate-Ka a slight advantage on the street right there...but in a ring matched with rules,yes the MMA fighter would probably win,on the street though,i say the Karate-Ka has the advantage...
But pressure points only work when you have a mean asian sensei that demonstrate them in front of a class on a sempai student that knows there will be pain. Most of them do not work at all in a mma ring where you have adrenalin an endorfin pumping.
yes,you have a good point there.but im a pretty big guy and i can take pain,and i have an american sensei and he does pressure points on me and i indeed feel them,so they indeed work.i agree pressure points probably don't work AS good when the adrenalin is going,but against a SKILLED Karate-ka,i think he will make the pressure points effective no matter how much adrenalin is going.
Not if you press the reset button. A simple little slap to the temple stops any and all fighters but using the correct amount of force takes years to master. Too hard and you may kill the person. To light and you'll get laughed at. MMA is not fighting unfortunatley it has rules. I fought one MMA fighter on the street. After letting him take me down I proceeded to go directly to breaking his right thumb....smooth sailing after that. I dont give you time to tap out.
@SpinDoctor91 pressure points can be used in MMA, but it's extremely hard to apply with opponents resisting. watch the pressure point master get his ass kicked by an mma guy vid
@terrikeedan Dolph was born on 03 Nov 1957, but for some obscure reason he used to claim he was born in 1959. I can only guess it was perhaps because of the Hollywood obsession with youth, and that his agent recommended it to him.
Mas Oyama was a genius for creating Kyokushinkai. For a man to kill a bull with one blow says the extent of this style. Very strong. I know a man that studies Kyokushinkai and believe me he taught me some stuff just like I taught him a little bit of Goju. That is brotherhood of the martial arts. lol.
@SwordofCrystalis How can a bull be drugged up. Can you knock a bull out with one punch? Sorry but that takes time and practice. Can you hit a freight train with full force without breaking a hand or foot? I have seen it done. Trust me it takes skill and practice to do it. Mas Oyama dedicated himself to his strength and training. So not anyone can kill a bull with one hit. It takes practice for that to happen.
Awesome. Did Dolph Lundgren also study Shotokan? Kyokushinkai is a very strong style. I have recommended people to take that style. I study Goju under my father.
Naw,,, I do still see my Shihan and all the Dons in his class,,, they always tell me I should do it,,, Im 37 and I still feel I have a few fights left in me,,,, I got the MIND to do it,, now,, I need the HEART. Its tough with 3 jobs though, but I still run, hut the bag, and hit my shins on the salt/canvas makiwara for shin conditioning. Is your style Gojo, a full contact based system?
That is all that counts. I don't have a dojo and I also broke my hand, but I don't let that stop me either. You are never too old to do anything and once you have martial arts in your blood then it can never leave your heart. My style is Goju. It means Hard and soft. It is based on almost everything. There is crane system, blocking, grabbing. kicking and punching along with chops, take downs and other things. Believe it or not Kyokushinkai has a little Goju in it.
@intromix My father trained Kyokushin with him for five years in the late 70's he said that already as a green belt he used to give the black belts a hard time when sparring, tough sob
iv bin reading these posts and looool to all of you. mma is not a style, its an idea, it being that all styles of all martial arts when mixed together make the most complete fighter. its not a style, its an idea you do when you decide to fight. boxing is a style, wrestling is a style, mma is a mixture of what works and what doesnt, thats not a style thats an idea the smarter fighters had. on another note i think the best mix for an mma fighter would be karate/sambo/judo/wrestling.
geez man,i HATE it when people think MMA is invincible.MMA is the best all-around fighting style out there,but an MMA fighter can lose against a traditional MA i think.if one guy trained in MMA for 10 years,and one guy trained in Karate for 20 years,im putting my money on the karate-ka.the person that knows MMA has a higher chance of winning,but i don't think he will ALWAYS win though.MMA is very effective,but i don't think it's UNSTOPPABLE like most people put it up to be.
I agree with you,,, yes,, MMA involves lots of grappling and choking (which takes MUCH stamina and more injuries being thrown around) but if you are practicing a hard style Karate,, like Japanese Karate full contact for many years,, you can do enough damage alone with gedan mawashi geri (low leg kicks) and add some knees and elbows to the face. Either way you are still a fighting machine.. OSU
yes you are so right,i think an experienced Karate-Ka will have more harder training then a MMA fighter too.for example,i think Mas Oyama could beat Chuck Liddill in a fight.i just think traditional Martial Artist train harder in general than most MMA fighters,i think traditional MA train with more passion and spirit.i know that there are some hard training MMA fighters out there though.i respect MMA and i like it,but i love the tradional Martial Arts more so.
Bullshit. The fighter training Mixed Martial Arts will win because he can simply take the guy down and pretty much do what ever he wants with him there. Especially since you don't train any clinch work for Karate. It wouldn't even be a match my friend.
Except that we do train clinches, there's just a little difference between what is included in the competitions.
For instance during Dolph's prime, he was the reason for why clinches was no longer allowed in competition, as he nearly, quite literally, kicked the head off of his opponent's head... Breaking his neck
Dolph couldnt even beat Oleg Taktarov in a boxing match. Oleg is a 90% grappling only MMA fighter. Dolph is pretty much 90% striker. Even without his kicks, he has way more striking experience than Oleg. It just shows you that Karate, is a martial art for training mental focus, not for combat training.
actually,i kinda disagree.i see what your saying,but i think it all depends on the person and level of experience.if an MMA practioner has 5 years of MMA experience,and a Karate practioner has 18 years of Karate experience,i think the Karate practioner will win.just because the MMA guy PRACTICES MMA dosen't AUTOMATICALLY mean he will beat the Karate-Ka.there are some Karate moves that are banned from MMA actually.
um.. maybe to some extenet your right. Like a 5 year karate guy should be able to take on a 9 month MMA guy.. but 5 year vs 18 year.. MMA guy wins easy. There are MMA world champions with only 3 years of training. These guys have beaten Karate guys that have been training their whole lives. It only takes 6 months of take down drills to erase 100 years of Katas, board breaking, and even live sparring or real stand up only matches.
Well basically that's a loot of work and skill needed to get 3 Dan and kyokushin karate is really tough and every training is really painfull (hard sparing, and chellenging warm ups). Especialy for big guys who always get most experienced sparring partners. Was there already Im 10cm shorter than Lundgren 120 of muscles :) But thats great sport if U like chelenge dont mind to have som bruisers around your body.
MMA is one thing,, but it is beneficial to have a background in hard Karate styles like Shorin Ryu, Oyama, Enshin, Kyokushin, and THEN enter MMA,, you will have a better foundation to attack with,, like George St Pierre, was a Kyokushin Karateka. Mix the Karate you know with JJ and you will have great knowledge and be a top fightiner
people are all on about this style and that style. im a shotokan instructor myself, but i try to train many different styles. what i like about martial arts is that each style has its benefits. kyokushin is tough through hardening the body, shotokan has its kicks and jujitsu has the grappeling and boxing has the punches and punch combination with great cardio training. in the end, its all up to you on how good you want to be. styles are just tools to become good.
Connery got a Honorary belt, after the filming of "you only live twice" where half the kyokushin home dojo got roles as extras (as all those "ninjas" running around in the japanese intelligence service Bond is visiting).
He did not get a real black belt based on skill.
Connery DID get some training from Oyama, but only a couple of lessons.
Sean Connery's Black Belt from Mas Oyama was an Honorary one for his accurate portrayal of real Karate in a movie. The James Bond movie "You Only Live Twice" starring Sean Connery featured many of the Kyokushin Karate Honbu fighters doing demonstrations and practicing during a training sequence with Sean as the James Bond character.
who throws kicks that close well ernesto hoost use to always throw kicks coming right out of the clinch shit i think anderson silva threw a kick or two when he had rich in the clinch in there second fight , but what do they know about fighting
THIS IS MARTIAL ARTS who the fuck kicks at that range? where is the technique wtf all the firm stances and sharp punches that they train in just thrown aside what the hell
Karate as Martial Arts allow groin shots, eye gauges and all kinds of nasty things. At the sport of Karate, no head punches is allowed without gloves. This is how you fight with Kyokushin rules.
low kicks and knees (the only kicks seen here) are very effective and popular in all fightsports where they are allowed.
Fights against a resisting opponent tends to look sloppier and messier than in the movies.
and the formal martial art stances are for training, not fighting in.
The guy was smaller than dolph, and tried to take out his legs. Good idea if it had worked, but it failed and he got into, and stayed, in reach of dolphs knee.
TardBird, the idea of kyokushin rules are that you have to be strong enough to take those hits on your chest, if they would add head punches, it would be like kickboxing/muay thai. There is no other style like kyokushin, it has it's own unique matching style. Sosai Oyama wanted these rules because it's ultimate test of your skills. I'm not saying that it would be easier with head punches but with body punches it is little bit more painful. (we train boxing in kyokushin but we dont spar with them
Kyokushinkaikan Karate is Full contact karate not like the other cowardly karate that uses the excuse of "sports karate"....many times I faught people from shotokan, gujo, wado, hayashiha, shidokan and many more all hide behind the excuse of "Sports karate"...fuck why we learn self defence...?? We learn to defend ourselves in real life situations and dicisplin ourselves. In sports karate u cannot punch face or kick behind the things, no disabling hits, only focus on speed..really sick of it..
Shidokan is a Kyokushin offshoot founded by Yoshiji Soeno (one of Mas Oyamas Kyokushin students) in 1981. I agree that the other Karate styles you mentioned are sport Karate but Shidokan is the real deal like Kyokushin. In fact Shidokan was one of the first actual MMA competitions as they included boxing & grappling in their matches. I am actually a 3rd Dan Kyokushin Karateka from New York City with over 27 years experience training. Osu.
Dam Ivan Drago can kick too this guy rocks
mickization 2 months ago
Dolf vs Kenji Midori,kenji vould kick his ass
TheRadivoje 2 months ago
OSU from Germany
CreativeLemming99 3 months ago
I win for me! FOR ME!
YouGotJEWD 3 months ago
Dolph broke him.
JRserver 4 months ago
wow i know dolph is like 6 feet but against his opponent it looks like he's 7 feet..idk why, and lol i wasn't surprised with who won
mudkipzuzu 5 months ago
чё то как то он неуверенно действовал, особенно при его приимуществе в росте...
боялся наверно соперника.
MaximusCrow8 5 months ago
He's a tank
DrCameltoe 5 months ago
Looks like a good fight, you can see clearly it's full contact.
Kicking like this repeatedly makes you tiresome.
They look about the same weight anyhow, so what's unfair - he's taller? What does that have to do with anything?
Vishvisher 6 months ago 6
@Vishvisher Thank you,, I guess theres just alot of idiots out there looking to see point system fighting with those beautiful Van Damme kicks, they have no idea how tiresome real fighting with contact is and about the process of elimination. Obviously, if these 2 are fighting and they are balck belts in Kyokushin, size and belt rank makes NO difference. Thanks for the comment
intromix 6 months ago 13
@intromix Rocky IV would've been a lot more different if they were fighting with Kyokushin rules :P
ferrisbautista 5 months ago
@intromix actually dolph wasnt a black belt just yet. i think he was a green, which is why ppl were so shocked. a green belt beating up more advanced students.
ssjanime250 4 months ago
@intromix well actually height does help alot lol. i saw a full contact kyokushin fight where two guys both start doing the spinning hook kick at the exact same time. taller guy with longer legs hit the shorter guy even though the kick was executed at the exact same time and at the same speed. the range of your punches and kicks are much longer when your taller.
ssjanime250 3 months ago
@ssjanime250 I think you might be referring to Jean Riviere from Canada,, at the time he was 300 Pounds and did a spinning back kick at the same time as the Japanese fighter and knocked him out cold, SCARY
intromix 3 months ago
@intromix Thats Not Always True, Because A long Leg or a Long Arm has a longer travelling distance before maximum Impact
So if there would be a smaller guy and a bigger guy, both doing a kick at the same speed the smaller guys leg would be faster to reach its full power and capacity
DiminishedTB 3 months ago
@intromix Baek Belts=?
AlfTqhRoussfe1 2 months ago
SWEEP THE LEG!!
sini8080 6 months ago 2
He is 22 yearls old in this video, not 18.
MuayThai5551 6 months ago
come on... that was a very unfair fight... that looks like me picking on a twelve year old hahahah!!! I could see the frustration in the other guys eyes! LOL!
smtbbo 7 months ago
I must break you!
hellofaname 7 months ago 3
That's supposed to be martial arts ?
NikKast1981 7 months ago
@NikKast1981 Maybe you like to watch the point system,, where there is NO contact and you win based on speed,,, in that case,, go watch a Bruce Lee movie
intromix 7 months ago
@intromix No, i like to watch REAL martial arts....This is like a street brawl with full contact and no "Real" moves at all......
NikKast1981 7 months ago
@NikKast1981 You make NO SENSE,,This is a full contact system,, which means DOLPH KNOCKED HIS OPPONENT ON HIS ASS,, THERE IS NO MARTIAL ART OUT THERE TOUGHER THAN KYOKUSHIN, as I said, go watch a Bruce Lee or Jean Claude Van Damme movie,,, KYOKUSHIN WILL NOT LOOK "PRETTY" which sounds to me you like to watch Tae Kwon Do,,, or Kung Fu,,, or even Jet Li,,, where they "look like flying, jumping, dancing, pretty, spinning kicks,,,if THAT is your definition of "REAL" Martial Arts,
WAKE UP MY FRIEND
intromix 7 months ago
@intromix This is no different than a street fight by people who have never ever learned martial arts....Of course Dolph was young then but come on....But yes i do like to see "pretty" moves when i see martial arts, steven seagal does them, jean claude does, chackie chan does, jet li does and so do another 100 martial arts people i know, so what does that mean, that they don't know what they are doing ?
NikKast1981 7 months ago
@NikKast1981 When I first started this style of Karate (Kyokushin) I QUICKLY realized how UN-EFFICIENT Hollywood Martial Arts Is VS REAL Martial Arts, to ME, REAL Martial Arts is FIGHTING, I am a FIGHTER, Dolph is a FIGHTER, you mess with Dolph on the streets,, he will F.I.G.H.T. you,, punch you, kick you,,knee you, knock you DOWN TO THE GROUND, not a Van Damme Helicopter kick like you see in the movies,, it's TOTALLY INNEFECTIVE, Ask Chuck Zito, who DESTROYED your boy Van Damme in a real FIGHT
intromix 7 months ago
@intromix So, to answer your question "REAL" do you want to defend yourself or put on a SHOW? you can look so pretty with all these flying kicks and punches but when these blows land on your opponent and you dont STOP him from killing you, is it worth a flying kick that will cost you your life? if someone goes to attack you are you going to look PRETTY or try to beat the hell out of him, punch and kick him, knee him in the head to KNOCK HIM OUT? Real fighting isnt made to look PRETTY my friend
intromix 7 months ago
@intromix I really would like to see Dolph going up against Seagal, now that would be fun to watch.....Until something like that happens however i still believe that this kind of martial art sucks big time, thats all.
NikKast1981 7 months ago
@intromix Dude, you're keen on violence, not martial arts.That's what NikKast1981 is trying to tell you and he's right.
Ifritlordofire 7 months ago
@intromix Also, fighting isnt made to look pretty. But it can look pretty dumbass! And this fight aint pretty, its ugly. I have no doubt Dolph would kill me in seconds but this fight is rubbish. I agreed the guy who had been asking for pretty moves is a fucking dumbass. Steven Seagal, Van Damme, why what the fuck does he think this fight is fake?
fuckingkimura 7 months ago
@fuckingkimura EXACTLY!! Thats why I said what I said to him,,, trust,,, if you were training full contact Karate, you would understand how impromptu this would look. and yes, it DOES look sloppy,, but if you have no experience on these leg kicks,, not only does it hurt like hell, you can break your shin bone EASILY,,, and its happened MANY times,,, so to the DUMBASS that said "you call this Martial Arts" WTF? Does it look like CANDY fighting?! BTW,, George St Pierre trains Kyokushin also
intromix 7 months ago
@intromix As I said, I have all the respect for fighters and karateka. I know Kyokushin Karate is badass, Andy Hug, Fransico Filho, GSP... they are all great fighters, I only tried to correct you that 1. karate is in no way the toughest martial art 2. this fight is not a good example of karate, not every karate fights are like this, not every fights are about being "ugly" and tough
fuckingkimura 7 months ago
@NikKast1981 Film fighting is much different from real fighting. Real fights are impromptu. Actually, this vid looks like typical full contact karate. If you train in martial arts (full contact), you'll gain HUGE appreciation for the fights that seem impromptu and "sloppy" if you may describe. Because nothing is certain, you need to limit your movements so that you're least vulnerable, all the while using the most power you can exert. Watch some UFC, you'll get what I mean. Respect.
CommanderYuan 7 months ago
@NikKast1981 However, I'll admit that intromix is pretty intent on bashing flashy moves. They're definitely high risk, but there are fighters who are flashy and are very successful. I am guilty of being pretty flashy, using flying kicks, superman punches, spinning backfists. I dont use them often because it's tiring, but people have pulled it off. Look up Genki Sudo or Cung Le. Anderson Silva's pretty flashy too at times. Or freaky. If you take up Karate, it'll be like intromix said. Unflashy.
CommanderYuan 7 months ago
@intromix
Try and become a black-red belted jiu-jitsu artist then come back in 25 years.
Vazcular 7 months ago
@intromix pppppffffftttttt I have all the respect for any karateka or fighters or martial artist, but calling kyokushin karate the toughest martial art is unreal. Check out MMA, where you would get pummeled and pounded on, where strikes to the face is actually allowed, or even Muay Thai, elbows knees HUGE whip kicks in a very contained area. I remember watching a video where Musashi(kickboxer) started to urinate blood after one of his K-1 fights.
fuckingkimura 7 months ago
I wonder if he said to him before the fight "I must break you."
ethicalpervert 7 months ago
How young Stallone looks in this video!
chri2453 8 months ago
Anyone want to sparr with Dolph can try to find him at Brian Fitkins Kyukushin studio Stockholm Sweden during summers... hear he has a hard lowkick
jebu23 8 months ago
ivan drago can kill !
Eilonz 8 months ago
god damn that is legit. Knee to the head KO.
VCthaGOATdunker 9 months ago
Both suck. They are playing patty cake. Barely making contact.
superstrangevideo 9 months ago
@superstrangevideo Let Dolph hit YOU like that and call it patty cake. If you have eyes and can see clear, this iis full contact karate, not point system
intromix 9 months ago 21
@superstrangevideo dude, dolph broke Stallones ribs when they were filming...3 times, i asure you, this is NOT something you want to try
Musikkingofthecookie 9 months ago
@superstrangevideo
You must be deaf if you cannot hear those bone crunching sounds when the bones connect.
DifangDuana 8 months ago
@superstrangevideo go and google Kyokushin Karate and see if they're just playing "patty cake"
dvdmanles 8 months ago
He looks like he is using his size as an advantage
vegetto14 9 months ago
@vegetto14
Ya think?
DifangDuana 8 months ago
amazing discovery I made right :l
vegetto14 8 months ago
pas mal ! Mais pas suffisant !
sylvano10 10 months ago
lame, that guy was raping Dolph, he only won because of his size not his skills.
bountyhunterblood1 1 year ago
DRAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
thefallensaiyajin 1 year ago 2
身長差ありすぎｗｗｗｗ
sazaesan0 1 year ago
When DirecTV give me 5 months free of most premium television package...I jump in it!
ThunderBilTheMighty 1 year ago
"If He Dies, He Dies" haha
Uri808 1 year ago
@Uri808 F A I L
bravoatacama 11 months ago
now tat real karate
lain777 1 year ago
If Drago leg kicked apollo creed he'd have gone down in the first round.
twitchykun 1 year ago
Sure there are weight divisions? dolph dwarfs the other guy lol
gongzee 1 year ago
@gongzee In these days, I think heavyweight was 165 lbs and up. Any thing below was lightweight.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
@Theyellowma The world open tournament is one open weight division and has always been so. Other tournaments have light, medium, heavy and super-heavy weight divisions, but in the world open, everyone fights in one single elimination tournament -however unfair that is to the lighter fighters.
Although exceptional middle weight fighters have won (Kenji Midori, 5th world tournament, 1991), it is not a common occurrence. Lightweights don't even try.
kolsyrade 1 year ago
@kolsyrade Kenji midori was 69 kg (lightweight is 70kg and under) when he won he world title.
aldridge1 9 months ago
@gongzee world kyokushin tournaments are open weight osu
SuperBluepurple 1 year ago
wow, I'd say thats full contact. A knee to the head.
scampywiak 1 year ago
@scampywiak: Yeah dude, you might not be familiar with Kyokushin Karate, but that's how they do!
WarriorBoy 1 year ago
Thats what i would do the the common monkey on the street!
CaseyfuckinRyback 1 year ago
0:12, if he dies, he dies
Starshina89 1 year ago
@Starshina89 lol,
omxpablo19 1 year ago
Dolph is like a foot taller than this guy... lol a bit easy for dolph
Lukex29 1 year ago
wow I had no idea he did this. OSU!
TheWrongHero 1 year ago
3grade black-belt in fullkontakt karate, European, Swedish and Australian champ and Captain of the Swedish karate team. He whas the american team leader at the olympics 96 in Atlanta. so don´t say that he is not a great martial art athlete! (and he killed Apollo Creed in Rocky IV :@ )
schultzzen2 1 year ago 3
Excellent clip. It should be noted though that Dolph was 22 years of age at the time, not 18 as is incorrectly stated above.
hrobjartur 1 year ago
It's kind of cool to see an old action hero fighting for real. A lot of actors have to rely on their "tough guy" image, but you never really know their ability to fight in real life.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
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corporation26 1 year ago
if you gonna do karate, do kyoukshin... its full contact and almost the "real deal".
quezcatol 1 year ago
I must break you!
Hellsconsort 1 year ago
Looks like he was holding back a lot of power too. Like he was affraid to hurt the guy.
Shadowslamer 1 year ago
"you will loze"
prstar650biker2012 1 year ago
"I must break you"
prstar650biker2012 1 year ago
ujah ! uiiijah !
so gay
Lakis177 1 year ago
@Lakis177 gay or not what does it matter
shairaptor 1 year ago
@shairaptor
Its just gay ... thats it
Lakis177 1 year ago
@Lakis177 gays are cool ppl so shut it
shairaptor 1 year ago
he was 22 age .. he born in 1957
adrianfuko 1 year ago
man size does really matters.. look he got long legs.. you lose!
wannaseesome 1 year ago
IF HE DIES HE DIES!!!!!
Zaldren 1 year ago 50
Pretty unfair?.. Dolph is much bigger
Guard655 1 year ago
Shit, that must have fuckin hurt!! Long Love Lundgren!!!
messybluesboy 1 year ago
Proof that masters in chemical engineering can kick ass. ^^
emperror85 1 year ago 3
If he dies he dies :P
TheRockybalburke 1 year ago
hah dolph is officially hard then!
the little guy looked a bit intimidated, but cant say I blame him!
bodunchar 1 year ago
Total miss match! The other dude is like 175 and Dolph is probably 195. Still, nice going Dolph!
perfuzz 1 year ago
his kyokushin is shit by todays standards.
israelifaggot 2 years ago
that was 30 yrs ago Douchebag
kalipfs 1 year ago
small dick, wtf are you getting so offended for.
israelifaggot 1 year ago
shut up
FIGHTFANNERD3 1 year ago
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@FIGHTFANNYD3, u love dolph so much, go suck his balls you retard.
israelifaggot 1 year ago
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i also think the Karate-Ka are better at knowing pressure points then MMA fighters.
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago 11
@SpinDoctor91 the thing is in MMA fighting its illegal to use pressure points so thay just dont learn them
crowofdeath2 2 years ago 3
@crowofdeath2
yeah,i know the pressure points are illegal in MMA.but the Karate-Ka can use them outside of Kumite,so that gives the Karate-Ka a slight advantage on the street right there...but in a ring matched with rules,yes the MMA fighter would probably win,on the street though,i say the Karate-Ka has the advantage...
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago
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Pressure points are not illegal in MMA.
Theyellowma 2 years ago
lol hell no
FIGHTFANNERD3 1 year ago
lol Hell Yes.
SpinDoctor91 1 year ago
Pressure points are not illegal in MMA.
Theyellowma 2 years ago
yes they are
FIGHTFANNERD3 1 year ago
No they aren't.
Theyellowma 1 year ago
But pressure points only work when you have a mean asian sensei that demonstrate them in front of a class on a sempai student that knows there will be pain. Most of them do not work at all in a mma ring where you have adrenalin an endorfin pumping.
Buri8128 2 years ago
@Buri8128
yes,you have a good point there.but im a pretty big guy and i can take pain,and i have an american sensei and he does pressure points on me and i indeed feel them,so they indeed work.i agree pressure points probably don't work AS good when the adrenalin is going,but against a SKILLED Karate-ka,i think he will make the pressure points effective no matter how much adrenalin is going.
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago
Not if you press the reset button. A simple little slap to the temple stops any and all fighters but using the correct amount of force takes years to master. Too hard and you may kill the person. To light and you'll get laughed at. MMA is not fighting unfortunatley it has rules. I fought one MMA fighter on the street. After letting him take me down I proceeded to go directly to breaking his right thumb....smooth sailing after that. I dont give you time to tap out.
Hopllyte 1 year ago
@SpinDoctor91 pressure points can be used in MMA, but it's extremely hard to apply with opponents resisting. watch the pressure point master get his ass kicked by an mma guy vid
xIegionx 11 months ago
On the MMA vs. ANYTHING thread. You fight how you train guys. If you train to not hit to the face then that's what you're gonna do in a fight.
nbglass 2 years ago 2
dolph is acually 22 in this vid dolph was born in 1957
SoundwaveSuperior373 2 years ago
According to Dolph himself, he was born in 1959, not 1957 like everyone says. I think I'm gonna believe the man, not the media.
terrikeedan 2 years ago 18
@terrikeedan Dolph was born on 03 Nov 1957, but for some obscure reason he used to claim he was born in 1959. I can only guess it was perhaps because of the Hollywood obsession with youth, and that his agent recommended it to him.
hrobjartur 1 year ago
Mas Oyama was a genius for creating Kyokushinkai. For a man to kill a bull with one blow says the extent of this style. Very strong. I know a man that studies Kyokushinkai and believe me he taught me some stuff just like I taught him a little bit of Goju. That is brotherhood of the martial arts. lol.
shinbooks 2 years ago
@shinbooks
Anyone can kill a drugged up bull.
SwordOfCrystalis 2 years ago
@SwordofCrystalis How can a bull be drugged up. Can you knock a bull out with one punch? Sorry but that takes time and practice. Can you hit a freight train with full force without breaking a hand or foot? I have seen it done. Trust me it takes skill and practice to do it. Mas Oyama dedicated himself to his strength and training. So not anyone can kill a bull with one hit. It takes practice for that to happen.
shinbooks 2 years ago
if he dies... he dies
maxpower942 2 years ago 2
WOw. where did you get this video? awesome.
shinbooks 2 years ago
This was just a small clip from the 2nd World Kyokushin Karate Tournament in Japan from 1979. My Shihan fought there and said Dolph did real good too
intromix 2 years ago
Awesome. Did Dolph Lundgren also study Shotokan? Kyokushinkai is a very strong style. I have recommended people to take that style. I study Goju under my father.
shinbooks 2 years ago
Cool, not sure whether or not Dolph did Shotokan? Definitely Kyokushin though
intromix 2 years ago
okay cool. Do you still practice?
shinbooks 2 years ago
Naw,,, I do still see my Shihan and all the Dons in his class,,, they always tell me I should do it,,, Im 37 and I still feel I have a few fights left in me,,,, I got the MIND to do it,, now,, I need the HEART. Its tough with 3 jobs though, but I still run, hut the bag, and hit my shins on the salt/canvas makiwara for shin conditioning. Is your style Gojo, a full contact based system?
intromix 2 years ago
That is all that counts. I don't have a dojo and I also broke my hand, but I don't let that stop me either. You are never too old to do anything and once you have martial arts in your blood then it can never leave your heart. My style is Goju. It means Hard and soft. It is based on almost everything. There is crane system, blocking, grabbing. kicking and punching along with chops, take downs and other things. Believe it or not Kyokushinkai has a little Goju in it.
shinbooks 2 years ago
no he happened to visit shotokan clubs but stayed a kyokushin practitioner
JerryDam 2 years ago
@intromix My father trained Kyokushin with him for five years in the late 70's he said that already as a green belt he used to give the black belts a hard time when sparring, tough sob
TaeIeon 10 months ago
i agree. very good mixture.
shinbooks 2 years ago
"I must break you."
TotalDeadEnd 2 years ago
iv bin reading these posts and looool to all of you. mma is not a style, its an idea, it being that all styles of all martial arts when mixed together make the most complete fighter. its not a style, its an idea you do when you decide to fight. boxing is a style, wrestling is a style, mma is a mixture of what works and what doesnt, thats not a style thats an idea the smarter fighters had. on another note i think the best mix for an mma fighter would be karate/sambo/judo/wrestling.
mmsal 2 years ago 2
Well spoken my friend!!!
intromix 2 years ago
I think wrestling is a good base for any mma fighter but bjj as we've seen many times has proven to be the better style
EmoKilla420 2 years ago
geez man,i HATE it when people think MMA is invincible.MMA is the best all-around fighting style out there,but an MMA fighter can lose against a traditional MA i think.if one guy trained in MMA for 10 years,and one guy trained in Karate for 20 years,im putting my money on the karate-ka.the person that knows MMA has a higher chance of winning,but i don't think he will ALWAYS win though.MMA is very effective,but i don't think it's UNSTOPPABLE like most people put it up to be.
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago
I agree with you,,, yes,, MMA involves lots of grappling and choking (which takes MUCH stamina and more injuries being thrown around) but if you are practicing a hard style Karate,, like Japanese Karate full contact for many years,, you can do enough damage alone with gedan mawashi geri (low leg kicks) and add some knees and elbows to the face. Either way you are still a fighting machine.. OSU
intromix 2 years ago
yes you are so right,i think an experienced Karate-Ka will have more harder training then a MMA fighter too.for example,i think Mas Oyama could beat Chuck Liddill in a fight.i just think traditional Martial Artist train harder in general than most MMA fighters,i think traditional MA train with more passion and spirit.i know that there are some hard training MMA fighters out there though.i respect MMA and i like it,but i love the tradional Martial Arts more so.
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago
Bullshit. The fighter training Mixed Martial Arts will win because he can simply take the guy down and pretty much do what ever he wants with him there. Especially since you don't train any clinch work for Karate. It wouldn't even be a match my friend.
NellaN1337 2 years ago
Except that we do train clinches, there's just a little difference between what is included in the competitions.
For instance during Dolph's prime, he was the reason for why clinches was no longer allowed in competition, as he nearly, quite literally, kicked the head off of his opponent's head... Breaking his neck
Karius7 2 years ago
@Karius7
Dolph couldnt even beat Oleg Taktarov in a boxing match. Oleg is a 90% grappling only MMA fighter. Dolph is pretty much 90% striker. Even without his kicks, he has way more striking experience than Oleg. It just shows you that Karate, is a martial art for training mental focus, not for combat training.
SwordOfCrystalis 2 years ago
actually,i kinda disagree.i see what your saying,but i think it all depends on the person and level of experience.if an MMA practioner has 5 years of MMA experience,and a Karate practioner has 18 years of Karate experience,i think the Karate practioner will win.just because the MMA guy PRACTICES MMA dosen't AUTOMATICALLY mean he will beat the Karate-Ka.there are some Karate moves that are banned from MMA actually.
SpinDoctor91 2 years ago 3
@SpinDoctor91
um.. maybe to some extenet your right. Like a 5 year karate guy should be able to take on a 9 month MMA guy.. but 5 year vs 18 year.. MMA guy wins easy. There are MMA world champions with only 3 years of training. These guys have beaten Karate guys that have been training their whole lives. It only takes 6 months of take down drills to erase 100 years of Katas, board breaking, and even live sparring or real stand up only matches.
SwordOfCrystalis 2 years ago
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I competed in Kung Fu, but next to MMA fighting I would not stand a chance, niether would this big Dummy. "Ivan Drago"...what a joke.
jbravo70 2 years ago
Well basically that's a loot of work and skill needed to get 3 Dan and kyokushin karate is really tough and every training is really painfull (hard sparing, and chellenging warm ups). Especialy for big guys who always get most experienced sparring partners. Was there already Im 10cm shorter than Lundgren 120 of muscles :) But thats great sport if U like chelenge dont mind to have som bruisers around your body.
gerpir 2 years ago
Now, I'm no kareteka, but it looks like he was getting his ass kicked for most of that.
skraddypoo 2 years ago
what kyu/dan did dolph lundgren have?
zepetido 2 years ago
he is 3rd dan in kyokushinkai he also ha s a masters degree in chemical engineering, and speaks languages.
toxi87 2 years ago
7 languages pardon me
toxi87 2 years ago
he was only greenbelt
milnusthegnome 2 years ago
Kyokushin is no joke! That's what real karate is all about. Not all this watered down, sport bullshit.
SeanOBriain 2 years ago
he fucked him up
vazqjose 2 years ago
Shorin Ryu is the same we have full contact sparing and mock sparing your level of skill determines which you will do.
I also have been toying around with MMA and JJ
faron27 2 years ago 2
MMA is one thing,, but it is beneficial to have a background in hard Karate styles like Shorin Ryu, Oyama, Enshin, Kyokushin, and THEN enter MMA,, you will have a better foundation to attack with,, like George St Pierre, was a Kyokushin Karateka. Mix the Karate you know with JJ and you will have great knowledge and be a top fightiner
intromix 2 years ago
And Lyoto Machida is a Shotokan fighter.
eamonob84 2 years ago 3
vamos massitta, le salio a pelear al urso ese
gonzalodurante 2 years ago
Osu from Serbia!
Zinidatikazem2 2 years ago
people are all on about this style and that style. im a shotokan instructor myself, but i try to train many different styles. what i like about martial arts is that each style has its benefits. kyokushin is tough through hardening the body, shotokan has its kicks and jujitsu has the grappeling and boxing has the punches and punch combination with great cardio training. in the end, its all up to you on how good you want to be. styles are just tools to become good.
rogulj76 2 years ago 2
"I must break you!"
"If he dies, he dies"
"To the end"
IVAN DRAGO!! =P
Cezzao0o 2 years ago
sean connery knows kyokushin as well. So does GSP.
naynay3y455 2 years ago
Mas Oyama actually rewarded Connery with a black belt many years ago,,tell me THAT wasnt fixed (as Mas Oyama admired his acting)!!!
intromix 2 years ago
mas oyama probably admired him more than a fan. (i like mines shaken not stirred if u know what i mean lol) j/k
naynay3y455 2 years ago
Connery got a Honorary belt, after the filming of "you only live twice" where half the kyokushin home dojo got roles as extras (as all those "ninjas" running around in the japanese intelligence service Bond is visiting).
He did not get a real black belt based on skill.
Connery DID get some training from Oyama, but only a couple of lessons.
kolsyrade 2 years ago
Sean Connery's Black Belt from Mas Oyama was an Honorary one for his accurate portrayal of real Karate in a movie. The James Bond movie "You Only Live Twice" starring Sean Connery featured many of the Kyokushin Karate Honbu fighters doing demonstrations and practicing during a training sequence with Sean as the James Bond character.
dokokai 2 years ago
who throws kicks that close well ernesto hoost use to always throw kicks coming right out of the clinch shit i think anderson silva threw a kick or two when he had rich in the clinch in there second fight , but what do they know about fighting
ashesrosebud 2 years ago
obviously enough to win.
brasshandmartialarts 2 years ago
I wonder if he says "I will break you" before every fight?
releewasgay 2 years ago 20
@releewasgay followed by "you will lose"
thejmaster73 1 year ago
Dolph was a true karateka.. OSu
LucDelon 2 years ago 4
THIS IS MARTIAL ARTS who the fuck kicks at that range? where is the technique wtf all the firm stances and sharp punches that they train in just thrown aside what the hell
teched246 2 years ago
This is Karate the sport, not the martial art.
Karate as Martial Arts allow groin shots, eye gauges and all kinds of nasty things. At the sport of Karate, no head punches is allowed without gloves. This is how you fight with Kyokushin rules.
u31117416 2 years ago 4
"who kicks at that range?!"
anyone who knows how to.
low kicks and knees (the only kicks seen here) are very effective and popular in all fightsports where they are allowed.
Fights against a resisting opponent tends to look sloppier and messier than in the movies.
and the formal martial art stances are for training, not fighting in.
The guy was smaller than dolph, and tried to take out his legs. Good idea if it had worked, but it failed and he got into, and stayed, in reach of dolphs knee.
kolsyrade 2 years ago 4
For some it is, for others they keep to the style, may people like you and I dedicate ourselves to technique.
brasshandmartialarts 2 years ago
van damme is best
zagpe1 2 years ago
i tought that was dolph lundgren why r u talking about van damme?
thugriderforlife 2 years ago
TardBird, the idea of kyokushin rules are that you have to be strong enough to take those hits on your chest, if they would add head punches, it would be like kickboxing/muay thai. There is no other style like kyokushin, it has it's own unique matching style. Sosai Oyama wanted these rules because it's ultimate test of your skills. I'm not saying that it would be easier with head punches but with body punches it is little bit more painful. (we train boxing in kyokushin but we dont spar with them
Mushr00mie 2 years ago
makes sense, but out of 150 punches they block only about 25. o:O
TardBird 2 years ago
that shows the amount of punches they can take.
in kyokushin karate it's about whos the toughest guy but i prefer bruce lees style not getting hit only hit them.
thugriderforlife 2 years ago 5
Kyokushinkaikan Karate is Full contact karate not like the other cowardly karate that uses the excuse of "sports karate"....many times I faught people from shotokan, gujo, wado, hayashiha, shidokan and many more all hide behind the excuse of "Sports karate"...fuck why we learn self defence...?? We learn to defend ourselves in real life situations and dicisplin ourselves. In sports karate u cannot punch face or kick behind the things, no disabling hits, only focus on speed..really sick of it..
vikrama72 2 years ago
Shidokan is a Kyokushin offshoot founded by Yoshiji Soeno (one of Mas Oyamas Kyokushin students) in 1981. I agree that the other Karate styles you mentioned are sport Karate but Shidokan is the real deal like Kyokushin. In fact Shidokan was one of the first actual MMA competitions as they included boxing & grappling in their matches. I am actually a 3rd Dan Kyokushin Karateka from New York City with over 27 years experience training. Osu.
dokokai 2 years ago