I have had to decide to leave the scene for a while; I am getting no other work done. I have songs and novels to write. The challenge on these vids has been rewarding. Thanks to all my readers.
Just remember there is neither evidence for a god, nor a need for one.
The worst offence you may commit against yourself is to accept an unwarranted guilt.
Morality and human decency are not derived from religion. They precede it.
Challenge yourself; step to my side just for one minute.
Every institution where u reject the rules and rebel, kicks u out. But God creates a world and u and then u rebel and he gives u chance after chance and even suffers the punishment that u deserve, and u still rebel. Yea u get kicked out and out of Gods presence is hell. God tries to warn ppl that it will feel like fire but instead ppl whine and moan that its not fair while they continue their rebellion.
If that's the message of christians then it shows their immoral and terrible perversity.
This life is good, for those of us who are lucky enough to be born in the right country and circumstance.
Our mission is to make it good for as many people as we can.
The way to do that is to rid the world of the horror of this man and his religious claptrap; to stop believing in a mythical afterlife, and to live this, our only life to the full by making it good.
There is no evidence or possible cause or reason for a "soul". Describe one if you can - then explain how it can feel, see, hear, taste, smell, touch its way to heaven - which must "be" somewhere for it to find itself there.
And when it gets there, what is the day, night, light, identity, emotion, speech, conflict, jeopardy, that it must find to make existence there meaningful?
And where are the knees upon which it must grovel for eternity?
@StrumstickJoe You sound like an angry person who has a misinterpretation of the agnosticism of Immanuel Kant. Kant acknowledged that there was a lack of evidence for Christianity, but that never proved it right or wrong for him, because nothing has explained the 3 key problems faced in philosophy. But the problem of Kant was that he believed that if a metaphysical realm existed, whatever it would be, it would be unable to be known.
@StrumstickJoe This dilemma is what we all see in our everyday life, we can't see a soul, so we don't know if it exists. Some go further and conclude it does not exist, but regardless, because we cannot see any physical evidence for an afterlife, we stop there. Hegel showed how this dilemma of Kant's was no real dilema at al, bcos if God does in fact exist, then even though we would not be able to physically perceive Him, or nething in that realm, He cud create somethin tht wud tel us bout Him
@StrumstickJoe So you see why Christians believe? Because for us, God created everything to point to Him, but in particular the bible. We don't believe in heaven because of physical evidence for it, but because we believe God when He said there is an afterlife.
@jrocc77 When we make decisions we should dispose of needless assumptions. There is nothing in our natural world that cannot be explained by random mutation combined with evolution by natural selection – nothing works without that assumption – everything works with it. There are lots of things that remain to be decided; but it’s not just a theory; it does work, it is operational, it doesn’t require a prime mover.
@StrumstickJoe There are 3 basic questions that people have sought to explain over the years; being, life, and motion. Evolution claims to answer the question of life, how life came into existence, but those other 2 questions remain a mystery. And it remains that to be an atheist is to believe baseless assumptions. The only thing that can explain how something could come from nothing and how motion could have started is that something must have happened in some metaphysical realm
@StrumstickJoe How can it not? The question of being is how does anything exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so how is there anything here? If you say that what is here was always here in that tiny point of existence the big bang theory explains, you neglect the question of what caused the first motion? You can't argue gravity because then we say why did the big bang occur when it did and not a billion years before if it existed for eternity?
@StrumstickJoe Do you really think that the only reason people believe that the bible is the word of God is because it says it is? Sure, some, or most even, but not I... First you need the philosophical understanding that God exists, then you need to find some way of knowing who that God is, or if some other religion explains the metaphysical realm in a more appropriate manner. There is a lot of study that goes into it, and it is a matter of ignorance that any of us would say we know the Truth.
@jrocc77 Just got time for one more response - then I would ask you to read my questions and work out some answer to them in your head - it seems straightforward to me. You need a "first cause" and a "reason" for life to exist - I don't.
You said: "First you need the philosophical understanding that God exists, then you need to find some way of knowing who that God is"
That precisely illustrates the leap of faith I will never take. I have no cause to. I have not assumed your "sin".
@StrumstickJoe How can it not need a first cause? The question of being is how does anything exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so how is there anything here? If you say that what is here was always here in that tiny point of existence the big bang theory explains, you neglect the question of what caused the first motion? You can't argue gravity because then we say why did the big bang occur when it did and not a billion years before if it existed for eternity?
@StrumstickJoe And one more thing, a philosophical understanding that God exists is not a "leap of faith", the leap of faith in Christianity is that we have faith that Christ will come back for us and we will be in heaven one day, not the existence of God. A philosophical understanding that God exists is just that, and acknowledgment of the logic put forth for the existence of God.
@jrocc77 Your leap of faith needs to be taken every time you think of your "lord". You have to cross that line between reality and fantasy. Most of you need the circle-jerk of a church and "prayer" to reaffirm regularly. You are enslaved to your imagined, fearful "master."
@StrumstickJoe now you sound like you're just trying to insult me.. You answered nothing on my point of the need for a first cause and you assumed God is imaginary because you've never seen Him yourself. I understand the difficulty in having the belief in God, but having a close-minded attitude towards it based on your own experience of Christianity is just insulting, but not insightful. Do you actually know why Christians go to church and pray? Faith is simply trusting that all God does is good
@StrumstickJoe Ok, have fun writing your novel! I will leave you with the words of Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living." We are always learning as people, but make sure that when you make decisions in life they are out of much study and then even more study. Always wonder what if you are wrong, what are the opponent's arguments? Could they be right? Otherwise you will live a life full of ignorant beliefs, like many Christians, and that's not a life worth living.
Not 'totally new'. Heaven is more like this life than it is different, else why give us this life at all? See "Life in the World Unseen" for a better explanation. Free download from the internet.
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I have had to decide to leave the scene for a while; I am getting no other work done. I have songs and novels to write. The challenge on these vids has been rewarding. Thanks to all my readers.
Just remember there is neither evidence for a god, nor a need for one.
The worst offence you may commit against yourself is to accept an unwarranted guilt.
Morality and human decency are not derived from religion. They precede it.
Challenge yourself; step to my side just for one minute.
Goodbye
StrumstickJoe 4 months ago
Every institution where u reject the rules and rebel, kicks u out. But God creates a world and u and then u rebel and he gives u chance after chance and even suffers the punishment that u deserve, and u still rebel. Yea u get kicked out and out of Gods presence is hell. God tries to warn ppl that it will feel like fire but instead ppl whine and moan that its not fair while they continue their rebellion.
j919or 4 months ago
This life is not awful.
If that's the message of christians then it shows their immoral and terrible perversity.
This life is good, for those of us who are lucky enough to be born in the right country and circumstance.
Our mission is to make it good for as many people as we can.
The way to do that is to rid the world of the horror of this man and his religious claptrap; to stop believing in a mythical afterlife, and to live this, our only life to the full by making it good.
He's an evil nutter.
StrumstickJoe 8 months ago
@StrumstickJoe what make's you think heaven is a mythical afterlife?
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 What makes you think heaven IS?
There is no evidence or possible cause or reason for a "soul". Describe one if you can - then explain how it can feel, see, hear, taste, smell, touch its way to heaven - which must "be" somewhere for it to find itself there.
And when it gets there, what is the day, night, light, identity, emotion, speech, conflict, jeopardy, that it must find to make existence there meaningful?
And where are the knees upon which it must grovel for eternity?
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe You sound like an angry person who has a misinterpretation of the agnosticism of Immanuel Kant. Kant acknowledged that there was a lack of evidence for Christianity, but that never proved it right or wrong for him, because nothing has explained the 3 key problems faced in philosophy. But the problem of Kant was that he believed that if a metaphysical realm existed, whatever it would be, it would be unable to be known.
jrocc77 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe This dilemma is what we all see in our everyday life, we can't see a soul, so we don't know if it exists. Some go further and conclude it does not exist, but regardless, because we cannot see any physical evidence for an afterlife, we stop there. Hegel showed how this dilemma of Kant's was no real dilema at al, bcos if God does in fact exist, then even though we would not be able to physically perceive Him, or nething in that realm, He cud create somethin tht wud tel us bout Him
jrocc77 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe So you see why Christians believe? Because for us, God created everything to point to Him, but in particular the bible. We don't believe in heaven because of physical evidence for it, but because we believe God when He said there is an afterlife.
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 When we make decisions we should dispose of needless assumptions. There is nothing in our natural world that cannot be explained by random mutation combined with evolution by natural selection – nothing works without that assumption – everything works with it. There are lots of things that remain to be decided; but it’s not just a theory; it does work, it is operational, it doesn’t require a prime mover.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe There are 3 basic questions that people have sought to explain over the years; being, life, and motion. Evolution claims to answer the question of life, how life came into existence, but those other 2 questions remain a mystery. And it remains that to be an atheist is to believe baseless assumptions. The only thing that can explain how something could come from nothing and how motion could have started is that something must have happened in some metaphysical realm
jrocc77 5 months ago
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@jrocc77 It is operational, it doesn’t require a prime mover.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe How can it not? The question of being is how does anything exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so how is there anything here? If you say that what is here was always here in that tiny point of existence the big bang theory explains, you neglect the question of what caused the first motion? You can't argue gravity because then we say why did the big bang occur when it did and not a billion years before if it existed for eternity?
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 No, I don't see why christians believe.
You believe god, because you believe a god speaks to you.
The bible is true because it says it is true.
I don't believe in the mystical.
You do.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe Do you really think that the only reason people believe that the bible is the word of God is because it says it is? Sure, some, or most even, but not I... First you need the philosophical understanding that God exists, then you need to find some way of knowing who that God is, or if some other religion explains the metaphysical realm in a more appropriate manner. There is a lot of study that goes into it, and it is a matter of ignorance that any of us would say we know the Truth.
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 Just got time for one more response - then I would ask you to read my questions and work out some answer to them in your head - it seems straightforward to me. You need a "first cause" and a "reason" for life to exist - I don't.
You said: "First you need the philosophical understanding that God exists, then you need to find some way of knowing who that God is"
That precisely illustrates the leap of faith I will never take. I have no cause to. I have not assumed your "sin".
Bye for now.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
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jrocc77 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe How can it not need a first cause? The question of being is how does anything exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so how is there anything here? If you say that what is here was always here in that tiny point of existence the big bang theory explains, you neglect the question of what caused the first motion? You can't argue gravity because then we say why did the big bang occur when it did and not a billion years before if it existed for eternity?
jrocc77 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe And one more thing, a philosophical understanding that God exists is not a "leap of faith", the leap of faith in Christianity is that we have faith that Christ will come back for us and we will be in heaven one day, not the existence of God. A philosophical understanding that God exists is just that, and acknowledgment of the logic put forth for the existence of God.
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 Your leap of faith needs to be taken every time you think of your "lord". You have to cross that line between reality and fantasy. Most of you need the circle-jerk of a church and "prayer" to reaffirm regularly. You are enslaved to your imagined, fearful "master."
Bye for now.
StrumstickJoe 4 months ago
@StrumstickJoe now you sound like you're just trying to insult me.. You answered nothing on my point of the need for a first cause and you assumed God is imaginary because you've never seen Him yourself. I understand the difficulty in having the belief in God, but having a close-minded attitude towards it based on your own experience of Christianity is just insulting, but not insightful. Do you actually know why Christians go to church and pray? Faith is simply trusting that all God does is good
jrocc77 4 months ago
@jrocc77 By the way - whatever made you use the word "angry"?
I must say you are not the first religio to do it (to anyone who threatens your comfort-world)
I expressed no anger whatever, only dislike of the immorality of religion.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe Sorry, I thought you were angry based on your "evil nutter" comment, misunderstanding on my behalf.
jrocc77 5 months ago
@jrocc77 I have to go now. I have a novel to write/edit.
I'll look back on this channel in a day or two.
StrumstickJoe 5 months ago
@StrumstickJoe Ok, have fun writing your novel! I will leave you with the words of Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living." We are always learning as people, but make sure that when you make decisions in life they are out of much study and then even more study. Always wonder what if you are wrong, what are the opponent's arguments? Could they be right? Otherwise you will live a life full of ignorant beliefs, like many Christians, and that's not a life worth living.
jrocc77 5 months ago
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jrocc77 5 months ago
Not 'totally new'. Heaven is more like this life than it is different, else why give us this life at all? See "Life in the World Unseen" for a better explanation. Free download from the internet.
k0smon 1 year ago