I just found out that Montserrat Figueras died a few days ago, I am crying as I type this I love her voice and beauty what a musical family.I am happy that a last cd of theirs was just released so many greats die too young.
@basselyrique It's true that there is too much that is not understandable, although I understand her better in this version than in Bacholoj's, and I don't know why, since I presume both have the same origin.(!) Her gestures are classically true, I believe.
I search for MONTSERRAT FIGUERAS because I love the song la vida bona from her, which she performed very living,lively and naturally - but this is the typical artificial kind of singing, I no longer like. The music, the composition is good, but this voice is death ... artificial - like at most professionals .. not really human ... sure may be the best to fill large concert halls with sound, but this is not what I love.
@eduardobiaggi dont believe that shes a genious because of her singing. for you to be a genius, you must think. she doesnt think WHEN shes singing. she just feels. so i think shes a musa.
What a beautifull video, the shots are great, specially the conductor´s entrance followed by the camera. Very cinematographic. The setting, the clothes and the performers are equally good. I´m not an opera expert but she sounds very nice to me, very relaxing. Thanks for posting
The wife is out of key at numerous points, which is not a matter of debate (those who think otherwise are tone deaf). Many gifted singers would love to have had the opportunity to sing this part, but self indulgently, through nothing but past glories and a connection, the part went to you know who. Reminds me a bit of Dorothy Comingore in Citizen Kane. Aside from Zanasi (who's excellent) some of the other singers are also less than stellar. However, the playing's great.
@ingres809 Actually, judging her voice on the basis of a youtube video is pointless. With my perfect ears I can distinctly hear high notes being chopped, resulting in a listening experience that much resembles a very old C-cassette in a cheap, badly calibrated player. The vocals suffer more than the instruments. Youtube just might consider improving sound reproduction. Well, what are the odds of that ever happening? Really, on CD she sounds far better.
meaning of the phrase. Monteverdi's librettos were written by extraordinary poets and he exploits every sound of every word to make it work with the music: should a singer fail to convey this, the rendering would be incomplete as it is unfortunately here.
I have been recording a lot of Monteverdi as instrumentals and after many not very good attempts I have discovered the secret is to read the words and work out what each phrase is about. For example if he suddenly starts singing about war you can make the articulation more martial or if its about love, more dolce. If you look up my youtube video of Quel Sguardo Sdegnosetto you will see what I mean.
being Italian and a lover of baroque music I usually have no problem in deciding what kind of expression I want to give to the musical phrase of Monteverdi.
my problem is that singing while keeping the correct pitch all through one of his pieces is very difficult for me: I often realise I'm below the correct pitch and it's frustrating.
Ms Figueras has always been a lovely musician with a lovely voice.
Her problem here is that her volume is not much and is not enogh for a theatre: she wisely avoids forcing and pushing and retains the purity of her singing.
Another problem of her is that she never could master the Italian pronunciation: she sings as a musician would play, with a nice sense of the vocal line and a graceful rendering but, besides some annoying mistakes, she never uses the sounds of the language to convey the
I can find nothing wrong with the capes, the ingresso of the Maestro and the players on the balconies... It's very baroque, this taste for excess and spectacularity
@idraote I suppose it is very baroque in attitude, but it is commonly known that productions of the day possessed very different scenic designs from what is done here AND that the performers wore the latest fashions of the day. This is not very baroque when looking at the ACTUAL performance practice of the day. While this is spectacular and done quite well, it is far from accurate and people should know that. If the goal is to be accurate, then be accurate. If not, change the mission statement!
There is an arrogance in this film that disgusts me. I would like to think it belongs merely to artists behind the cinematography and not to Savall with his obscene entrance.
SHE HAS BEEN HIS MUSE THROUGH YEARS and she is his inspiration! her voice is so special and different. They have been the best school for this music that were totally ignored before the film of Marain Marais. That is a familiar project! and who doesn´t know it, should investigate more! their son and daughter are also wonderful artist! and Montserrat knows how to sing !
Pour moi, une révélation... Quel univers, quelle théâtralité, quelle féerie, quelle beauté... J'étais déjà conquise par le couple Savall/Figueras... Là, je suis comblée.
si sois músicos es mejor que se ocupen de hacer musica , de construir y si no lo sois con que derecho se atreven a descalificar a un artista como Savall, si nos les gusta con no escuchar nada de él basta, hay demasiada envidia en algunos comentarios
Encuentro en estos comentarios mucha ignorancia y demasiada petulancia, confunden su gusto personal con una regla estética, hay muchas versiones de esta opera, aluna mejores que otras, para mi la mas memorable en mi humilde opinión de la Gardiner, pero todas igualmente validas, no se puede ir por el mundo tirando mierda de ese modo,
Yo soy una joven de 15 años, y es muy poco usual que a mi edad les guste este tipo de musica. A mí me ponen estas óperas en clase de plastica y como no, en la de música. Estoy muy contenta con esta opera!!
Yo no se en que mundo vive ud. Todo en la vida es una competencia! Para trabajo, para dinero, para casarse, para sobrevivir, hay que competir. Es la orden de la naturaleza. De las cosas buena hay poco, y demasiada gente que las desean, quien la consigue? y como se determina? Por competencia!! Esta version de "dar mio permesso" es una basura! Mal interpretado! y una mediocrasia.
Wow, this is much faster than Harnoncourt! Savall also has drums playing prominently; did he add them to the orchestration? I like it. I think Savall's players are better, too, but overall I think Harnoncourt is more imaginative and has a better singer in the Prologue. What do you think? Surely this is one of the greatest openings in all opera.
There are other versions of this work that are much better. For example, that conducted by Gabriel Garrido. Jordi Savall has not succeed in doing a good performance of this opera.
many of the students in the ancient singing department in my school (Koninklijk Conservatorium Den Haag) would do MUCH MUCH MUCH better. actually yesterday I listened to one of them singing this very part, and it was incredible.
Yes, but can they act as well? Can they respond to creative direction? Can they market and manage themselves as musicians? Can they still sing beautifully, expressively, and consistently under pressure of recording, audience, and video cameras? To be a professional takes more than just a 'nice voice' and I think you do all those involved here a disservice to suggest otherwise.
I suppose I could also add: are they married to a world famous conductor? It surely doesn't hurt! Although, doubtless Figueras was accomplished enough before her musical partnership with Savall.
of course they can, that´s their job, our job actually, and we don´t really need you to tell us how it is to be a proffesional musician, we already are. If we couldn´t do that, we wouldn´t be musicians at all. But there´s something we don´t have: a famous husband.
Well then, as a professional musician I think you should show a little more respect for two musicians who have both made such an important contribution to 'ancient' music. Perhaps the department in your school would not exist if it were not for the efforts of musicians like Jordi Savall and Montserrat Figueras, etc.?
First of all, I respect Jordi Savall, and I know for sure that he has been the most important person in historical performance development, but Montserrar Figueras has done nothing but being her wife (and I know because I have played with them).
Second: The department in my school existed before Mr. Savall first thought about playing the viola da gamba.that´s why together with Basel(where he studied) they are the most imoportant.
Well, I just thought your original post sounded a little presumptuous. But perhaps I over-reacted, I find Youtube tends to get people excitable and opinionated, myself included; probably because one is never very likely to meet the individual you're in communication with in person. I have heard of Basel, and I also think you're very lucky to be in a school with a focus on ancient music. Good luck!
You are completely right, sorry if i sounded like that. It´s easy here, and I totally agree about how Youtube get people behave, and how difficult communicating properly is via this. Thank you.
Would someone PLEASE upload the Garrido and also the Harnoncourt versions? It would be instructive to compare the three, and besides it wouldn't hurt to have many versions on YouTube of one of the greatest operas ever created.
Who'd have thought that virbating air could bring one so close to divinity. Her voice is just breathlessly perfect. Spiritual from start to finish. Thanks for sharing this!
Gli italiani sono gli stessi, i tempi passano e non si può produrre buoni vini da uve marce, mancano i parametri umanisti di allora capaci di resuscitare l'intelletto e la gloria dalla polvere dei morti odierni.
You are quite wrong on 2 things here. 1: This opera was first performed in February 1607, published in 1609 and 1615. 2: It is not the first opera. The first opera was Jacopo Peri's "Dafne", performed in 1598. Most of that opera is missing. That opera was followed by two settings of Rinuccini's Euridice, both composed in 1600 by Jacopo Peri and Giulio Caccini.
It indeed is performed in 1607 for the first time, and indeed isn't the first opera. But, on the other hand, the other 3 opera's of Peri are (almost) completely lost, and haven't been performed in ages. That's why in general this opera is called the first official opera.. So I think SimianHeretic isn't quite wrong here.
The first Peri/Corsi opera, "Dafne", as I said, is lost except for a few small excerpts. I have, however, seen facsimiles of both the "Euridice" original scores from 1600 (Peri and Caccini), and have heard recordings of both in their entirety.
Having studied all three scores, this is the first "good" opera, but definitely not the first opera. Most people who call this the first opera have read their material from inaccurate or outdated sources with little to no academic credibility.
Ha! This is too funny - what a tirade of commentators. I think the musicians here should just shut-up and let people enjoy her singing ;-) In all other respects this is an absolutely fabulous production -- the orchestral accomp impeccable... I just wish Monserrat was a bit more in tune that day (believe me, I've had my days too). IMHO, Lynne Dawson does a much better job of this.
This is magic, plain and simple. The staging, the orchestration and, yes, the vocals all send chills up my spine. Anyone with any doubts about just what Monserrat Figueras is all about should listen to her work with Hopkinson Smith (songs by Luys Milan & Alonso Mudarra). I don't have this DVD...yet. I will soon.
What you are most likely hearing as tuning problems is either the early Baroque period ornamentation or the very progressive harmonies that Monteverdi used in almost all of his music. Before passing judgment on something it might be wise to learn how much you don't know rather than spew the little that you do.
No, she's just plain singing out of tune. And sorry jcm279, that's not different tuning/temperment systems, ornamentation, or Monteverdi's harmonies. It's just a singer singing out of tune... generally quite sharp.
In her defense, she does some very nice affectation at one point, singing a bit low on pitch to great effect just before a cadence. But I think bebopnazi is commenting on her somewhat warbley and generally sharp pitch, especially on higher, sustained notes (5:50 especially). Most singers (and violinists) play quite out of tune -- but the vibrato covers it up. But vibrato as generally isn't allowed here (except for affect) for stylistic/historic reasons, making her job especially difficult.
Beautiful! And im very glad that the ensemble is using period instruments. This really adds to the uniqueness of orchestral sound during Monterverdi's time at Mantua. Thanks for psting vid.
I certainly hope all the people complaining about the quality of Monserrat's voice aren't basing their decisions from listening to a video on YouTube! Compressed, mangled and mutilated! I have heard her sing live, and her voice is the purest, most controlled, vibrant, soaring voice I have heard. Perfect for these period performances.
A mí también me extrañó,pero el Permeso (ahora Kefalari) es un río de Beocia ,cercano al monte Helicón. El nombre aparece en la Teogonía v.5 de Hesiodo.Allí las musas refrescaban sus pies para seguir danzando en la cima del monte.
Infact! "Dal mio Parnasso amato, a voi ne vegno..." is what Alessandro Striggio originally wrote. Early wooden mobile characters were frequently fouled by ink accumulated. A reverted "e" can be easily mistaken for an "a" and a fouled "m" and "n" might well have been misplaced. Thanks for the remark!
Non capisco nulla di tecniche vocali..ma adoro questa musica antica prodotta con strumenti musicali fantastici..e poi Montserrat Figueras è insieme bellissima e brava..Credo che questa rappresentazione dell'Orfeo sia stato qualcosa di magnifico
And that's something that any singer especially the ones who r still in training knows if they have had to sing Lasciatemi morire,the firts thing that i ever sang i choose cause it was the shortest one at seemed so easy but it ended being a pain in the ass..now im in a advanced level but it is still dificult and if you study more you'll find that is still more dificult...that's Monteverdi
This must to be a recitativo not an opera aria, and the important parte here is how the music(figueras) interacts with the orchestra, the ritornello must be played with diferent instruments depending of the characters that the music is telling about
This an amazing production and Jordi Savall one of the best musicians but Monserrat Figueras is not good here it's more than obvius that she's singing this only cause she's Savall's wife
but any way sing Monteverdi it's far more dificult that it seems every singer knows that and this prologo is hard...I love Natalie Dessay but i don't like her version either
agreed. this production is absolutely marvelous. I own the DVD and simply cannot listen to any other version any more.
I've been searching for Monterverdi on youtube and I am utterly disappointed by what I've found. Singers (along with their immense EGOS destroy Monterverdi's music over and over again. IT's DEFINITELY NOT the case of this fantastic production.
The music is gorgeous (Monteverdi, of course). The musicians' musicality is study-worthy and noncontroversial, but I wouldn't/couldn't say she has a beautiful voice. Her voice...maybe played out or too amateur?
she's not an amateur but she specilizes in early music(without all the ornamentations of the baroque and the bel-canto),that it is supposedly the way it should be sung this kind of music, "sung" this a recitativo not an aria, so the style is correct but actually i don't like her voice neither,I have listened to another early specialized sopranos who deserve most to sing this than her
It would be really boring if everybody is singing as plain and forseeable as Emma Kirkby. I think Figueras is doing it nice in this way and her voice is really unique, although a bit uncomfortable for the ear. Nobody really knows how it was supposed to sound so you can't tell how wrong she is singing. I imagine singers today do not sing like they did in Rossini's time either.
I believe that u r very well, in these days one could not say: THIS IT IS THE WAY TO SING! MONTEVERDI!
Even so we most to take into account that what Claudio Monteverdi and the rest of the camerata fiorentina tried to do it was not opera,it was to try to recreate the Greek theater that they thought it was something among sung and recited
If you only knew...My comment has obviously started a good "conversation", but when people start calling other people by names, that's when the maturity level comes to question. I am far from an amateur. As far as voice production, the study thereof wasn't as advanced as it is today or even during Rossini's time (that's when it began to be greatly comprehensible)......
...with time comes changes due ti advancements. I believe if they would've had a singer today sing this part, they would be delighted or perhaps amazed. I've enjoyed everyone's comment except yours...do not reply to me again. I am looking for "meaty" discussions...not "meat-heads".
She has a very beautiful voice for other kind of music. She is great, for example, when singing spanish medieval songs. But I agree with you in saying that her performance in this opera is wrong. Every musical sentence is not conected with the next one.
are you kidding me??????? please...don't make such comments. if you don't like it, whatever, but do not criticize this absolutely brilliant interpretation. Too dark??? gosh...
and do you want me to criticize Emma Kirkby? Of course I can't!!! Seriously, I do have the CD you mention, with Nigel Rogers...It's really great, but this production with Savall is simply gorgeous. NOW, I know it's kind of hard to compare Emma Kirkby with any other singer, even Figueras. I do think she fits very well in this particular production. I haven't heard the CD with Kirkby for a while but will soon. thanks.
Maravilloso, espectacular.
Emaus123 2 months ago
Thanks for posting this. Very sad Monsterrat is gone.
pujieming 2 months ago
RIP Montserrat Figueras
scorpion4708 3 months ago
I just found out that Montserrat Figueras died a few days ago, I am crying as I type this I love her voice and beauty what a musical family.I am happy that a last cd of theirs was just released so many greats die too young.
fotoartiste1 3 months ago 3
She is so mouving on stage, with her voice incredible, full of grace.
She will always stay in our hearts
DURANDALish 3 months ago
I'm sad today , the last time I saw her was in june (19th) , she was so good and so beautiful I could not imagine her illness .
I never forget her voice and presence on stage .
erkaltung 3 months ago
RIP - your art will stay in our hearts
leptonX 3 months ago
My heart weeps for her loss. She was an incredible voice and artist... :(
SilentiaLunae 3 months ago 2
beautifull singing it is very enchanting
scheissdreckhass 3 months ago
Thankyou so much, Monserrat, for the many beautiful hours with your voice!
twiesengrund1 3 months ago
She was stunning to see. She was stunning to hear. She will stun the heavens with her presence. .. R.I.P.
Josquinquin 3 months ago 3
lamentable perdida !! :(
IgloMoatilliatta 3 months ago
totally enjoyable--you rock montserrat---you go girl---in heaven-you are there
bugbee999999 3 months ago
Ahora ya cantas con los ángeles...descansa en paz...
tcheliny 3 months ago
Descanza en paz ángel maravilloso y gracias por todo...
jasc032003 3 months ago
Rest in Peace, Montserrat Figueras...
askim925 3 months ago 33
Montserrat Figueras RIP :((
mimidu1 3 months ago 4
May her memory be eternal!
MichaelTrumpetPlayer 3 months ago 3
@MichaelTrumpetPlayer Yes!
axilea67 3 months ago
RIP Montserrat...
pscar1 3 months ago
@kyrpap1981 is it...
idraote 7 months ago
This staging is stupendous.
FRAGIORGIO1 9 months ago
Manific Monteverdi !
Cecelo8 9 months ago
ouch... this is clearly not Figueras' thing. She pushes a lot and is out of tune. Very poorly performed.
hansl72 10 months ago 2
@hansl72 I wonder if she ever heard about proper Italian pronunciation? Or breath support???
basselyrique 10 months ago
@basselyrique It's true that there is too much that is not understandable, although I understand her better in this version than in Bacholoj's, and I don't know why, since I presume both have the same origin.(!) Her gestures are classically true, I believe.
FRAGIORGIO1 9 months ago
@FRAGIORGIO1 That may be true, however the gestures to not cover the lack of technics.
basselyrique 9 months ago
I search for MONTSERRAT FIGUERAS because I love the song la vida bona from her, which she performed very living,lively and naturally - but this is the typical artificial kind of singing, I no longer like. The music, the composition is good, but this voice is death ... artificial - like at most professionals .. not really human ... sure may be the best to fill large concert halls with sound, but this is not what I love.
do you understand what I mean?
MrPatriceLumumba 11 months ago
Sublime. One of the most moving and beautiful presentations I have ever seen!
FRAGIORGIO1 1 year ago
this is amazing...
syncopated84 1 year ago
Quelle beaute infinie!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
Monserrat, sos una genia
eduardobiaggi 1 year ago
@eduardobiaggi dont believe that shes a genious because of her singing. for you to be a genius, you must think. she doesnt think WHEN shes singing. she just feels. so i think shes a musa.
onotuoedaul 1 year ago
Wow, this is splendid! She looks and sounds wonderful as Music -- beautiful period sense of tempos, sound colors, spectacle. What a treat!
manthasagittarius 1 year ago
beautiful, lindisimo
MrJFA1978 1 year ago 2
Everything she touches turns into gold.
voxhunden 1 year ago 2
@voxhunden monteverdi is more precious than gold, even without her.
thehillcefis 9 months ago
@thehillcefis Also very true!!
voxhunden 9 months ago
Divino!
ALEXANDRISCARLATI 1 year ago
Ha giorno beatrice. Mi sol ha.
Lautengitarre 1 year ago
Savall's entrance is absolutely spectacular. Spectacularly musical. Wow.
katch212 1 year ago
didn't know that Cher did classical :D
055697 1 year ago
@055697 this isnt classicism.........
elvidaluzal 1 year ago
@elvidaluzal
ok then, ''baroque'' if you insist on being pedantic.
055697 1 year ago
@055697 haha, i said that because they are very different from each other, baroque doesnt have order in sonatas, while in clasicism there is
elvidaluzal 1 year ago
What a beautifull video, the shots are great, specially the conductor´s entrance followed by the camera. Very cinematographic. The setting, the clothes and the performers are equally good. I´m not an opera expert but she sounds very nice to me, very relaxing. Thanks for posting
Ivanbelastegui 1 year ago
The staging looks very interesting.
Chayastri 1 year ago
gracias Jordi un placer contar contigo
nmesis13 1 year ago
Cynics aside...............For Montserrat's exquisite voice.....I say Bravo!!!
Maegester1 1 year ago
oui, c'est toi... blahhhhh
palapachito 1 year ago
The introduction reminds me so much of of Harry Potter; I love the way the conductor makes his entrance, Lol!
AdmRomulus 1 year ago
Magnifique !
sjokolade777 2 years ago
stupendo....
art77cl 2 years ago
Y ahí va la prima hermana de mi madre
gran montsserrat figueras!
CeEleCe 2 years ago
eccellente cantante ma monteverdi non è il suo cavallo di battaglia...
verdepastello 2 years ago
is this song in major or minor at the beginning?
iTzj3ff 2 years ago
It's in major
wastedlittleharpist 2 years ago
The musicality here is so beautiful! Brava Savall for such lovely conducting! Figueras finds a gorgeous line and her ornamentation is great.
kylejparker 2 years ago 2
I fagiolini do this one far better... stronger louder continuo, and a much better singer
AnimaMiaPerdona 2 years ago
The wife is out of key at numerous points, which is not a matter of debate (those who think otherwise are tone deaf). Many gifted singers would love to have had the opportunity to sing this part, but self indulgently, through nothing but past glories and a connection, the part went to you know who. Reminds me a bit of Dorothy Comingore in Citizen Kane. Aside from Zanasi (who's excellent) some of the other singers are also less than stellar. However, the playing's great.
ingres809 2 years ago 2
@ingres809 Actually, judging her voice on the basis of a youtube video is pointless. With my perfect ears I can distinctly hear high notes being chopped, resulting in a listening experience that much resembles a very old C-cassette in a cheap, badly calibrated player. The vocals suffer more than the instruments. Youtube just might consider improving sound reproduction. Well, what are the odds of that ever happening? Really, on CD she sounds far better.
jannevellamo 1 year ago
@ingres809
you're right. she's consistently sharp.
younglink1213 1 year ago
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ingres809 2 years ago
meaning of the phrase. Monteverdi's librettos were written by extraordinary poets and he exploits every sound of every word to make it work with the music: should a singer fail to convey this, the rendering would be incomplete as it is unfortunately here.
idraote 2 years ago
I have been recording a lot of Monteverdi as instrumentals and after many not very good attempts I have discovered the secret is to read the words and work out what each phrase is about. For example if he suddenly starts singing about war you can make the articulation more martial or if its about love, more dolce. If you look up my youtube video of Quel Sguardo Sdegnosetto you will see what I mean.
hostroute 2 years ago
being Italian and a lover of baroque music I usually have no problem in deciding what kind of expression I want to give to the musical phrase of Monteverdi.
my problem is that singing while keeping the correct pitch all through one of his pieces is very difficult for me: I often realise I'm below the correct pitch and it's frustrating.
idraote 2 years ago
Ms Figueras has always been a lovely musician with a lovely voice.
Her problem here is that her volume is not much and is not enogh for a theatre: she wisely avoids forcing and pushing and retains the purity of her singing.
Another problem of her is that she never could master the Italian pronunciation: she sings as a musician would play, with a nice sense of the vocal line and a graceful rendering but, besides some annoying mistakes, she never uses the sounds of the language to convey the
idraote 2 years ago
I can find nothing wrong with the capes, the ingresso of the Maestro and the players on the balconies... It's very baroque, this taste for excess and spectacularity
idraote 2 years ago 38
@idraote / Totally agree.
edwardpiercy 9 months ago
@idraote Vaig tenir la sort de ser al Liceu veien-t'ho. Quina meravella!
pedradelencant2 2 months ago
@idraote I suppose it is very baroque in attitude, but it is commonly known that productions of the day possessed very different scenic designs from what is done here AND that the performers wore the latest fashions of the day. This is not very baroque when looking at the ACTUAL performance practice of the day. While this is spectacular and done quite well, it is far from accurate and people should know that. If the goal is to be accurate, then be accurate. If not, change the mission statement!
MwalshBaritone 1 month ago
wonderful voice!!!
ellithevoice 2 years ago
There is an arrogance in this film that disgusts me. I would like to think it belongs merely to artists behind the cinematography and not to Savall with his obscene entrance.
dolofonos 2 years ago
SHE HAS BEEN HIS MUSE THROUGH YEARS and she is his inspiration! her voice is so special and different. They have been the best school for this music that were totally ignored before the film of Marain Marais. That is a familiar project! and who doesn´t know it, should investigate more! their son and daughter are also wonderful artist! and Montserrat knows how to sing !
yomisma77 2 years ago
Pour moi, une révélation... Quel univers, quelle théâtralité, quelle féerie, quelle beauté... J'étais déjà conquise par le couple Savall/Figueras... Là, je suis comblée.
Louauste 2 years ago
si sois músicos es mejor que se ocupen de hacer musica , de construir y si no lo sois con que derecho se atreven a descalificar a un artista como Savall, si nos les gusta con no escuchar nada de él basta, hay demasiada envidia en algunos comentarios
fausbach 2 years ago
Encuentro en estos comentarios mucha ignorancia y demasiada petulancia, confunden su gusto personal con una regla estética, hay muchas versiones de esta opera, aluna mejores que otras, para mi la mas memorable en mi humilde opinión de la Gardiner, pero todas igualmente validas, no se puede ir por el mundo tirando mierda de ese modo,
fausbach 2 years ago
now look at the argument below
only if all people were like this..
i love this opera and is probably my favorite i like the story behind it and the music in general
DandDmasternerd 2 years ago 2
Quite Beautiful~~~~~ Lovely voice and melody. Great subtle strings.
Classikev 3 years ago
Que musicaaa lindaaaaa
I love you
beautiful
emersonalexandre18 3 years ago
Yo propongo que para su próximo "show" Saval caiga de un avión en paracaidas. . . . . bueno, si de entradas majestuosas se trata.
gerardoaoki 3 years ago
es precioso....es una gran ópera...
Yo soy una joven de 15 años, y es muy poco usual que a mi edad les guste este tipo de musica. A mí me ponen estas óperas en clase de plastica y como no, en la de música. Estoy muy contenta con esta opera!!
It's wonderfull!!!
segiszgz94 3 years ago
Wonderful!! many thanks for posting this gem!
berlinman46 3 years ago
La vida no es una competencia.
Está bien que te guste algo o que no te guste. Cada cual tiene sus gustos y todos debemos respetar.
A mí me gusta mucho esta interpretación.
Qué bueno que haya gente que se dedica a embellecer el mundo con música tan hermosa.
¡Un saludo para todos, amigos, feliz 2009!
julianurteaga 3 years ago
Yo no se en que mundo vive ud. Todo en la vida es una competencia! Para trabajo, para dinero, para casarse, para sobrevivir, hay que competir. Es la orden de la naturaleza. De las cosas buena hay poco, y demasiada gente que las desean, quien la consigue? y como se determina? Por competencia!! Esta version de "dar mio permesso" es una basura! Mal interpretado! y una mediocrasia.
leopeo207ver 3 years ago
No estoy de acuerdo con usted. La vida está llena de cosas bellas y esta es una de estas.
julianurteaga 3 years ago
Wow, that start rocks :D
Lovely music indeed!
NorwegianViolinist 3 years ago 2
Wow, this is much faster than Harnoncourt! Savall also has drums playing prominently; did he add them to the orchestration? I like it. I think Savall's players are better, too, but overall I think Harnoncourt is more imaginative and has a better singer in the Prologue. What do you think? Surely this is one of the greatest openings in all opera.
billyguns2 3 years ago
There are other versions of this work that are much better. For example, that conducted by Gabriel Garrido. Jordi Savall has not succeed in doing a good performance of this opera.
dani1978el 3 years ago
you're right, how can a stranger sing in Italian? I'm italian and I can't stand what is she saying...
fabioz88 3 years ago
fabioz88 and
dani1978el .......son ustedes unas bestias ignorantes...........
hetario 3 years ago 2
¿puedes explicarme por qué? Es obvio que existen interpretaciones mucho mejores.
La versión de Ensemble Elyma dirigida por Gabriel Garrido es excelente (se llevó el diapasón de oro del año 1997)
La versión de René Jacobs no me gusta, pero es mucho mejor que esta de Jordi Savall.
La versión de Harnoncourt, aunque es muy antigua, todavía sigue siendo muy buena, y es definitivamente mejor que ésta.
Por favor, dame argumentos que demuestren que no tengo razón.
dani1978el 3 years ago
dani1978el, nadie te va a dar argumentos inteligentes porque no los hay.
Alpauber 3 years ago
many of the students in the ancient singing department in my school (Koninklijk Conservatorium Den Haag) would do MUCH MUCH MUCH better. actually yesterday I listened to one of them singing this very part, and it was incredible.
Alpauber 3 years ago
Yes, but can they act as well? Can they respond to creative direction? Can they market and manage themselves as musicians? Can they still sing beautifully, expressively, and consistently under pressure of recording, audience, and video cameras? To be a professional takes more than just a 'nice voice' and I think you do all those involved here a disservice to suggest otherwise.
olialto7 3 years ago
I suppose I could also add: are they married to a world famous conductor? It surely doesn't hurt! Although, doubtless Figueras was accomplished enough before her musical partnership with Savall.
olialto7 3 years ago
of course they can, that´s their job, our job actually, and we don´t really need you to tell us how it is to be a proffesional musician, we already are. If we couldn´t do that, we wouldn´t be musicians at all. But there´s something we don´t have: a famous husband.
Alpauber 3 years ago
Well then, as a professional musician I think you should show a little more respect for two musicians who have both made such an important contribution to 'ancient' music. Perhaps the department in your school would not exist if it were not for the efforts of musicians like Jordi Savall and Montserrat Figueras, etc.?
olialto7 3 years ago
First of all, I respect Jordi Savall, and I know for sure that he has been the most important person in historical performance development, but Montserrar Figueras has done nothing but being her wife (and I know because I have played with them).
Second: The department in my school existed before Mr. Savall first thought about playing the viola da gamba.that´s why together with Basel(where he studied) they are the most imoportant.
Anyway, I am sorry if I offended you.
Alpauber 3 years ago
Well, I just thought your original post sounded a little presumptuous. But perhaps I over-reacted, I find Youtube tends to get people excitable and opinionated, myself included; probably because one is never very likely to meet the individual you're in communication with in person. I have heard of Basel, and I also think you're very lucky to be in a school with a focus on ancient music. Good luck!
olialto7 3 years ago 2
You are completely right, sorry if i sounded like that. It´s easy here, and I totally agree about how Youtube get people behave, and how difficult communicating properly is via this. Thank you.
Alpauber 3 years ago
Then mount a production of L'Orfeo with them, put it on youtube as proof, and stop tearing at your robes.
asherwolfstein 2 years ago
Would someone PLEASE upload the Garrido and also the Harnoncourt versions? It would be instructive to compare the three, and besides it wouldn't hurt to have many versions on YouTube of one of the greatest operas ever created.
billyguns2 3 years ago
The first part of the version of Garrido is already uploaded by the user OedipusColoneus. The name of the file is:
Claudio Monterverdi: L'Orfeo "Tocatta & Ritornello"
dani1978el 3 years ago
Many thanks! I listened to the Garrido, which I find superbly played but too fast; I also miss the accompanying drums in the Garrido version.
billyguns2 3 years ago
divine
lumoa 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I STUNK IT STUNK
RE4central 3 years ago
Who'd have thought that virbating air could bring one so close to divinity. Her voice is just breathlessly perfect. Spiritual from start to finish. Thanks for sharing this!
cgavin1 3 years ago 3
stunning! I love it!
dynamicstuff73 3 years ago
Do you think Michael Bay asks for the influence of the muses every time he sets about his work?
Tondars 3 years ago
Entrada magistral!
acatelion 3 years ago 3
savall è davvero spagnolo però!
ratoci 3 years ago
...e servo fé l'inferno a sue preghiere, gloria all'immortal di Pindo ed Elicona.. grande monteverdi! orgoglioso d'essere italiano.
carkenoba 3 years ago
l'italiano che era lui non siamo piu noi oggi. Altro mondo, altro popolo. Minori glorie musicali. Sic transit gloria mundi.
ratoci 3 years ago 2
Gli italiani sono gli stessi, i tempi passano e non si può produrre buoni vini da uve marce, mancano i parametri umanisti di allora capaci di resuscitare l'intelletto e la gloria dalla polvere dei morti odierni.
Bambaindust 3 years ago
è effettivamente un'allegoria degna di nota, quella del vinsanto.
ratoci 3 years ago
This may be wrong of me, but I really really want Jordi's robe and the percussionist's facial hair!
DerWandrer 3 years ago 18
This is the very first opera, 1610.
SimianHeretic 3 years ago
You are quite wrong on 2 things here. 1: This opera was first performed in February 1607, published in 1609 and 1615. 2: It is not the first opera. The first opera was Jacopo Peri's "Dafne", performed in 1598. Most of that opera is missing. That opera was followed by two settings of Rinuccini's Euridice, both composed in 1600 by Jacopo Peri and Giulio Caccini.
Bell1701 3 years ago
It indeed is performed in 1607 for the first time, and indeed isn't the first opera. But, on the other hand, the other 3 opera's of Peri are (almost) completely lost, and haven't been performed in ages. That's why in general this opera is called the first official opera.. So I think SimianHeretic isn't quite wrong here.
Antjekok 3 years ago 2
The first Peri/Corsi opera, "Dafne", as I said, is lost except for a few small excerpts. I have, however, seen facsimiles of both the "Euridice" original scores from 1600 (Peri and Caccini), and have heard recordings of both in their entirety.
Having studied all three scores, this is the first "good" opera, but definitely not the first opera. Most people who call this the first opera have read their material from inaccurate or outdated sources with little to no academic credibility.
Bell1701 3 years ago
Ha! This is too funny - what a tirade of commentators. I think the musicians here should just shut-up and let people enjoy her singing ;-) In all other respects this is an absolutely fabulous production -- the orchestral accomp impeccable... I just wish Monserrat was a bit more in tune that day (believe me, I've had my days too). IMHO, Lynne Dawson does a much better job of this.
bebopnazi 3 years ago
This is magic, plain and simple. The staging, the orchestration and, yes, the vocals all send chills up my spine. Anyone with any doubts about just what Monserrat Figueras is all about should listen to her work with Hopkinson Smith (songs by Luys Milan & Alonso Mudarra). I don't have this DVD...yet. I will soon.
fwg6string 3 years ago 2
i have this on DVD, and it's one of the best things (counting all media) i've come across in years. beautiful and perfect. and i'm not an opera fan.
admexpedition 3 years ago
Quelle merveille !
Merci pour ce sublime partage.
miguale 3 years ago
I love them.. (all Sawall family)
They are so genius, so soft, so nice..
oyamicanto 3 years ago
haha i love how the conductor makes like a dramatic entrance XD
xXLeafXNinjaXx 3 years ago
the singer is having a lot of problems with tuning!
she is off the tune and not equall with the instruments.
laxit4 3 years ago
The sound quality of the stream must be getting in the way?
jonathantosio 3 years ago
What you are most likely hearing as tuning problems is either the early Baroque period ornamentation or the very progressive harmonies that Monteverdi used in almost all of his music. Before passing judgment on something it might be wise to learn how much you don't know rather than spew the little that you do.
jcm279 3 years ago
No, she's just plain singing out of tune. And sorry jcm279, that's not different tuning/temperment systems, ornamentation, or Monteverdi's harmonies. It's just a singer singing out of tune... generally quite sharp.
bebopnazi 3 years ago
You must be quite a musician yourself to make such an assertion.
jcm279 3 years ago
In her defense, she does some very nice affectation at one point, singing a bit low on pitch to great effect just before a cadence. But I think bebopnazi is commenting on her somewhat warbley and generally sharp pitch, especially on higher, sustained notes (5:50 especially). Most singers (and violinists) play quite out of tune -- but the vibrato covers it up. But vibrato as generally isn't allowed here (except for affect) for stylistic/historic reasons, making her job especially difficult.
urgay1971 3 years ago 2
Just sooooooo great!!!
stimmgabelfrosch 4 years ago
this is a fantastic performance of an eternal masterpiece.
The use of period instruments makes the whole production even more refreshing and absolutely remarkable.
Check Sara Mingardo as the Messaggiera...it's difficult to put into words how amazing her performance is...one of the most beautiful things ever.
Justino111 4 years ago
Beautiful! And im very glad that the ensemble is using period instruments. This really adds to the uniqueness of orchestral sound during Monterverdi's time at Mantua. Thanks for psting vid.
Motetftw 4 years ago
WHAT THE HELL IS IT WITH JORDI SAVALL. All his music is ****ing SO GOOD. I've never come across anything like him.
jonathantosio 4 years ago 2
Jordi Savall on video! Nice intro. The man is a treasure, as is our singer here.
edgluhrs 4 years ago
I certainly hope all the people complaining about the quality of Monserrat's voice aren't basing their decisions from listening to a video on YouTube! Compressed, mangled and mutilated! I have heard her sing live, and her voice is the purest, most controlled, vibrant, soaring voice I have heard. Perfect for these period performances.
jcm279 4 years ago 2
Wish there were more time in a day to view all the beautiful videos such as this one.
Thank you for sharing such treasures.
oldgirltn 4 years ago
Thats not "Permesso", but Parnasso!!!!
Ousios 4 years ago
Sorry, my fault! Its Permesso - My text edition has "Parnasso".
Ousios 4 years ago
A mí también me extrañó,pero el Permeso (ahora Kefalari) es un río de Beocia ,cercano al monte Helicón. El nombre aparece en la Teogonía v.5 de Hesiodo.Allí las musas refrescaban sus pies para seguir danzando en la cima del monte.
siopetejne 4 years ago
Finally somebody agreeing with me! Jurgen Jurgens recording of Orfeo has "Parnasso"!
Let'sspreadthe good news!
konradlorentz 4 years ago
Parnasso makes sense.
Ousios 4 years ago
Infact! "Dal mio Parnasso amato, a voi ne vegno..." is what Alessandro Striggio originally wrote. Early wooden mobile characters were frequently fouled by ink accumulated. A reverted "e" can be easily mistaken for an "a" and a fouled "m" and "n" might well have been misplaced. Thanks for the remark!
konradlorentz 4 years ago
Non capisco nulla di tecniche vocali..ma adoro questa musica antica prodotta con strumenti musicali fantastici..e poi Montserrat Figueras è insieme bellissima e brava..Credo che questa rappresentazione dell'Orfeo sia stato qualcosa di magnifico
Philly1967 4 years ago
weired and beautiful... loving the orchestra ensable ... they seem to be enjoying it!
longwoka 4 years ago
nice video.OK. sayonara my friends.
javoman13 4 years ago
this is beautiful.
younglink1213 4 years ago
Monteverdi it is an speciallity in sing like Rossini for example,no everybody just sing Monteverdi i far more complex that it seems
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago
And that's something that any singer especially the ones who r still in training knows if they have had to sing Lasciatemi morire,the firts thing that i ever sang i choose cause it was the shortest one at seemed so easy but it ended being a pain in the ass..now im in a advanced level but it is still dificult and if you study more you'll find that is still more dificult...that's Monteverdi
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago 2
This must to be a recitativo not an opera aria, and the important parte here is how the music(figueras) interacts with the orchestra, the ritornello must be played with diferent instruments depending of the characters that the music is telling about
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago
This an amazing production and Jordi Savall one of the best musicians but Monserrat Figueras is not good here it's more than obvius that she's singing this only cause she's Savall's wife
but any way sing Monteverdi it's far more dificult that it seems every singer knows that and this prologo is hard...I love Natalie Dessay but i don't like her version either
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago 2
agreed. this production is absolutely marvelous. I own the DVD and simply cannot listen to any other version any more.
I've been searching for Monterverdi on youtube and I am utterly disappointed by what I've found. Singers (along with their immense EGOS destroy Monterverdi's music over and over again. IT's DEFINITELY NOT the case of this fantastic production.
Justino111 4 years ago
stupendi quei piccoli intermezzi
youngpianist88 4 years ago
The music is gorgeous (Monteverdi, of course). The musicians' musicality is study-worthy and noncontroversial, but I wouldn't/couldn't say she has a beautiful voice. Her voice...maybe played out or too amateur?
vivomusique 4 years ago
she's not an amateur but she specilizes in early music(without all the ornamentations of the baroque and the bel-canto),that it is supposedly the way it should be sung this kind of music, "sung" this a recitativo not an aria, so the style is correct but actually i don't like her voice neither,I have listened to another early specialized sopranos who deserve most to sing this than her
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago
I agree...maybe she should listen to the instrumentalists?
vivomusique 4 years ago
It would be really boring if everybody is singing as plain and forseeable as Emma Kirkby. I think Figueras is doing it nice in this way and her voice is really unique, although a bit uncomfortable for the ear. Nobody really knows how it was supposed to sound so you can't tell how wrong she is singing. I imagine singers today do not sing like they did in Rossini's time either.
evaeke 4 years ago 2
I believe that u r very well, in these days one could not say: THIS IT IS THE WAY TO SING! MONTEVERDI!
Even so we most to take into account that what Claudio Monteverdi and the rest of the camerata fiorentina tried to do it was not opera,it was to try to recreate the Greek theater that they thought it was something among sung and recited
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago
vivomusique you are the amateur one in this music kind...
ramonetes 4 years ago
If you only knew...My comment has obviously started a good "conversation", but when people start calling other people by names, that's when the maturity level comes to question. I am far from an amateur. As far as voice production, the study thereof wasn't as advanced as it is today or even during Rossini's time (that's when it began to be greatly comprehensible)......
vivomusique 4 years ago
...with time comes changes due ti advancements. I believe if they would've had a singer today sing this part, they would be delighted or perhaps amazed. I've enjoyed everyone's comment except yours...do not reply to me again. I am looking for "meaty" discussions...not "meat-heads".
vivomusique 4 years ago
She has a very beautiful voice for other kind of music. She is great, for example, when singing spanish medieval songs. But I agree with you in saying that her performance in this opera is wrong. Every musical sentence is not conected with the next one.
dani1978el 3 years ago
Sorry but I feel Montserrat Figueras' voice is too dark for this part.
angryjalapeno 4 years ago
are you kidding me??????? please...don't make such comments. if you don't like it, whatever, but do not criticize this absolutely brilliant interpretation. Too dark??? gosh...
Justino111 4 years ago
Um have you ever heard Emma Kirkby sing this part in Charles Medlam's recording?? Maybe you should.
angryjalapeno 4 years ago
and do you want me to criticize Emma Kirkby? Of course I can't!!! Seriously, I do have the CD you mention, with Nigel Rogers...It's really great, but this production with Savall is simply gorgeous. NOW, I know it's kind of hard to compare Emma Kirkby with any other singer, even Figueras. I do think she fits very well in this particular production. I haven't heard the CD with Kirkby for a while but will soon. thanks.
Justino111 4 years ago
Great , Savall has been one of the ( few ) best spanish musicians during the 20th century
KoganSvetlanov 4 years ago 3
A voice an angel might envy.
xeasternxz 4 years ago