A wired network is always better than a wireless one. They serve only tablets and pocket devices that doen't have an Ethernet port. Computers, TVs, NAS, etc. are just cable-connected to my network!
These boxes are limited in what you can add and you have to buy that manufacturers special pieces. Better idea- get a 19" rack. Plenty of room for expansion with nearly any manufacturers products. Not just connections, but larger gear like network switches, audio amplifiers, and media servers. One patch panel and a rackshelf is enough to get any home started off right. Racks can be found on craigslist for cheap or free (search for server or audio). The downside- they take up floor space.
@kamikazeOS it's not new, my whole town has 100mbit glass fiber to every house. Still i think pulling UTP wires through your whole house is more work than setting up a properly configured wifi network (and a proper one IS secure). You even got the 802.11n standard which is faster than 100mbit, which doesn't cost a lot.
@Engineer9736 Even with 802.11n, there's still RF interference, unless you go for 5GHz devices or screen everything wireless in or near the house that works in 2.4GHz to make sure. By setting up something like this, you can get a 1Gbps lan running with cat5e/cat6 cables UTP (or, even better, S/FTP) and not have to worry about signal range or wireless security.
it is easy as hell to sniff on someone internet Wifi connection .
just think about it :
you are sending all the information through the air and then to your router .
someone just need to sneak between you and your router with a little program and Bang ! he knows every information you are sending or even receiving on the internet .
Oh ! and yeah , Wifi Connection are way slower than normal connection anyway .
@thompsonm97 I went to your channel and unfortunately you might be one of those that doesn't know how to setup a wireless network. There's no video there showing us how, there's nothing about you, nothing about your vast experience on that topic. Why is that? Why don't you tape a video sharing your knowledge on the topic?
true i have all the Cisco certifications and i am working in computer since year or so has a professional but i am working with PC since about 10 years has hobby. i have a box like this in my house where i have my router and my Ethernet switch, and i am loving it. faster safer and more stable that wireless.
Installation of cables in practice appears easy but in theory there is a lot to know. lengths, bend radii, and other industry standard installation procedures. Something as pathetic as a nick in the plastic insulation around a wire or a stretch or harsh bend in the cable can alter the impedances and create bad electromagnetic fields which can create varying problems like no connectivity, poor connectivity or reflection of signals/damage.
I'm a 21 year Telecom technician and network tech, I have installed this unit before in homes and similar ones as well it's not bad a little over kill for the average home. But then again I went to a service call to a home that had 20 thousand square feet of living space and the entertainment and telecom network was one of the worst installs I ever saw. And for wireless people, life is not so secure do the research
As an electrician for over 20 years, this is the proper way. With wireless, there's ALWAYS the possibility for external intrusion. It's extremely vulnerable. Also avoid wireless security and camera's. There is jamming technologies.
it is fed into this box, you have your feed coming in and all the other cables going going out to their respective locations ie; living room bedroom den etc. you should have cable and telephone feeds coming into this box and all cable and telephone lines from the house meet in the box as well
proper term is called cat 5 cable. Yes, that is typically the wire used to connect from a DSL or Cable terminal (most companies call it a modem) to your computer or home router (also called switch).
I appreciate this. I might actually have to go look around for one of these for my needs, sadly enough, it'd be for two rooms. Too much technology? I'd say so.
There are many wired networks. What's more, wait till you see sniffing software in action and you'll think twice about using wireless for private business. I've seen it and it's scary as heck.
You mention security but don't forget that a properly wired network will have better speed and reliability than a wireless network, not to mention that many things can run over cat5 like hdmi, usb, etc that would cost a fortune more to go wireless and proprietary.
I have a wireless video sender that I use to send tv from living room to bedroom. When you turn on the microwave it freaks out. Just an example of how interference over air medium is worse than insulted covered copper wire.
I hate people who said "At home, i put a wireless AP and if i'm at the first stairs, i have no connect"
Wireless technologies are usefull and working, learn just how to use it.
At work we link 2 site with Wireless Cisco Equipements, 2Km between site, with Directionnal AP 2Watt, for securty, VPN with SSLv3 and Linux Radius Server Authentification for client, based on Microsoft Active Directory LDAP...
@SkyFitsHeaven24 wired is 100 times more reliable, no security issues or keys, wired is much faster, you cant wireless connect routers, switches, servers etc. only endline computers
@AsktheBuilder Agreed I am going to school for IT and they taught us how to "sniff" wireless networks and it is simple as pie, and can be done in no time at all. Electrical equipment, such as florescent light bulbs, and microwaves interfere with Wi-Fi. Also look at the speed differences. Wireless N runs 300mb/s half duplex. Also only one PC can transmit at a time. More PCs = Slower speed. Also if you do plan to secure your network that adds overhead which slows you down even more.
@ghostmarine1000 I'm waiting.... It's one of the reasons we don't feed our attack dog too much. She's waiting for the opportunity to discover someone on our property who's trying to get into our secure WiFi. I say bring it on. Let's see if the hacker can break the code before the dog gets her/him. :->>>>>
@AsktheBuilder . my friends and I used to hack wireless all around the place using about 10 laptops in the car scanning and breaking all kind of security key then putting a nice notpad on there desktop saying that we got in there wireless and how we did it + some tips to make there wireless the most secure. our range of action is about 100 meters. linux power :)
If one is using WPA-PSK then it is physically impossible to crack the network key. The only option is to brute force, and if you have a good security policy that specifies a limited number of attempts this risk is eliminated.
It is a data distribution box. For home use, they have this type of set up at Lowes or Home Depot. For industrial, you can go to black box and check out their equipment.
@PyrotekNX Sorry, i don't know if my previous comment posted, but anyways, these boxes are made by Leviton. You'll see the various sizes on their website. They can hold computer networks, telephone hubs, cable, and audio. Home Depot sells this stuff.
I had to comment that coaxial splitters should never have ports left open. The ports that had the blue caps in this video should have been terminated with a 75 ohm terminator of some type. Otherwise it was a good clip.
it shouldnt be installed at all..... when the cable guy comes his going to have a hell of a time putting good fittings that are not crimped but compressed... checking to make sure that the signal is good to each particular place in the house especially if it is a modem and a lot of the times those block 2 way communication so you might as well not put a cable box splitter home control in there. label the lines to each room accordingly and let the installers do their thing.
Hey Howard, the most difficult part of any wiring is getting the wire in the walls.
As you can imagine getting to a 2nd or 3rd. floor is far more difficult after the house is finished, this applies to a 3 year old house or a 30 year old house.
Once all the wiring is run connecting it into a unified box (such as shown) is actually quite easy, this applies to high voltage wiring as well with the exception of those types of wires being terminated into an electrical box.
lets not forget that if your getting satellite youll need a switch and if its cable it will be a splitter and you might be needing an amp for both so just leave the lines that goes out for everyone else who does that.
It's called a MDF main distribution frame. Inside wire. I'v been doing this for over 20 years and even techs call for help on this type of application. You should contract this out if you don't know Bicsi standard. Know what you know and don't. Most techs can't even really tell you the difference between 568A and 568B and why they are different. But I regard this application as a new found respect for data and telecommunication needs. Not just POTS anymore. (Plain old telephone service.)= POTS
I can't believe there is a tech in the world who doesn't know that 568A and B are just two different standards and you use the same on each end to make a typical cable and you use one on one end and the other on the other end to make a crossover cable. Even the jacks show both color codes. For you to say that most techs don't know that is pretty misleading.
You can do that but your wireless router's signal will be greatly reduced. The best way to resolve that would be to poke your antenna through one of the knockouts or cut a hole for them.
i appreciate you & your staffs great efforts to share your knowledge,unlike those people who just simply make bad criticisms on your job but still they did nothing impressive.
Just use wifi and wireless telephones.
girlovinmusic 1 month ago
A wired network is always better than a wireless one. They serve only tablets and pocket devices that doen't have an Ethernet port. Computers, TVs, NAS, etc. are just cable-connected to my network!
Potew 3 months ago
These boxes are limited in what you can add and you have to buy that manufacturers special pieces. Better idea- get a 19" rack. Plenty of room for expansion with nearly any manufacturers products. Not just connections, but larger gear like network switches, audio amplifiers, and media servers. One patch panel and a rackshelf is enough to get any home started off right. Racks can be found on craigslist for cheap or free (search for server or audio). The downside- they take up floor space.
proaudiohd 9 months ago
these technologies will be obsolete in a couple of years..
a new connection standard is in work, thru optical wire.
at the moment they are doing this for hard drives...but i think optical is the future.
kamikazeOS 1 year ago
@kamikazeOS it's not new, my whole town has 100mbit glass fiber to every house. Still i think pulling UTP wires through your whole house is more work than setting up a properly configured wifi network (and a proper one IS secure). You even got the 802.11n standard which is faster than 100mbit, which doesn't cost a lot.
Engineer9736 11 months ago
@Engineer9736 Even with 802.11n, there's still RF interference, unless you go for 5GHz devices or screen everything wireless in or near the house that works in 2.4GHz to make sure. By setting up something like this, you can get a 1Gbps lan running with cat5e/cat6 cables UTP (or, even better, S/FTP) and not have to worry about signal range or wireless security.
Nscizor 11 months ago
it is easy as hell to sniff on someone internet Wifi connection .
just think about it :
you are sending all the information through the air and then to your router .
someone just need to sneak between you and your router with a little program and Bang ! he knows every information you are sending or even receiving on the internet .
Oh ! and yeah , Wifi Connection are way slower than normal connection anyway .
hitachi088 1 year ago
faraday cage. lol
inc2000glw 1 year ago
most people don't even know how to set up a wireless network correctly. A wired network is faster and is a lot less trouble.
thompsonm97 1 year ago 15
@thompsonm97 I went to your channel and unfortunately you might be one of those that doesn't know how to setup a wireless network. There's no video there showing us how, there's nothing about you, nothing about your vast experience on that topic. Why is that? Why don't you tape a video sharing your knowledge on the topic?
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
@thompsonm97 wireless network are not that stable as nowadays you will find so many thinks interfering with your wireless network.
Mar2623 1 year ago
@thompsonm97
Wifi internet connection are WAY slower than a normal ethernet one .
just go to any Geek forum and they will tell you the exact same thing .
Source : i am working with computer since 1998.
hitachi088 1 year ago
true i have all the Cisco certifications and i am working in computer since year or so has a professional but i am working with PC since about 10 years has hobby. i have a box like this in my house where i have my router and my Ethernet switch, and i am loving it. faster safer and more stable that wireless.
stolenick 1 year ago
@thompsonm97 Only if it's DHCP...
Installation of cables in practice appears easy but in theory there is a lot to know. lengths, bend radii, and other industry standard installation procedures. Something as pathetic as a nick in the plastic insulation around a wire or a stretch or harsh bend in the cable can alter the impedances and create bad electromagnetic fields which can create varying problems like no connectivity, poor connectivity or reflection of signals/damage.
MorkaGraven 3 months ago
I'm a 21 year Telecom technician and network tech, I have installed this unit before in homes and similar ones as well it's not bad a little over kill for the average home. But then again I went to a service call to a home that had 20 thousand square feet of living space and the entertainment and telecom network was one of the worst installs I ever saw. And for wireless people, life is not so secure do the research
James1toknow 1 year ago
cool thanks for that ill make sure to remember you like to use your laptop on your patio lol great vid btw
reesk92 1 year ago
As an electrician for over 20 years, this is the proper way. With wireless, there's ALWAYS the possibility for external intrusion. It's extremely vulnerable. Also avoid wireless security and camera's. There is jamming technologies.
69esparky 1 year ago
Wired > Wireless. Bring it on!
trungiee 1 year ago
telect has a very nice wiring box and modules that go in the box. They are very organized and look really good. By the way I dont work for telect.
maybachlover15 1 year ago
question for the builder is your MAIN cable line fed inside to this box or is it split on the outside into this box
ajpchipmunk 2 years ago 2
it is fed into this box, you have your feed coming in and all the other cables going going out to their respective locations ie; living room bedroom den etc. you should have cable and telephone feeds coming into this box and all cable and telephone lines from the house meet in the box as well
StrokedGT 2 years ago
all those internet wires?
SilentServiceCode 2 years ago 2
proper term is called cat 5 cable. Yes, that is typically the wire used to connect from a DSL or Cable terminal (most companies call it a modem) to your computer or home router (also called switch).
Dustin872006 2 years ago
I appreciate this. I might actually have to go look around for one of these for my needs, sadly enough, it'd be for two rooms. Too much technology? I'd say so.
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AwesomeMutilation 2 years ago
Who does this sort of thing anymore? It's all about wireless networks now.
SkyFitsHeaven24 2 years ago
There are many wired networks. What's more, wait till you see sniffing software in action and you'll think twice about using wireless for private business. I've seen it and it's scary as heck.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago 17
You mention security but don't forget that a properly wired network will have better speed and reliability than a wireless network, not to mention that many things can run over cat5 like hdmi, usb, etc that would cost a fortune more to go wireless and proprietary.
I have a wireless video sender that I use to send tv from living room to bedroom. When you turn on the microwave it freaks out. Just an example of how interference over air medium is worse than insulted covered copper wire.
kdocki 2 years ago 15
@kdocki
For that, we have site survey.
I hate people who said "At home, i put a wireless AP and if i'm at the first stairs, i have no connect"
Wireless technologies are usefull and working, learn just how to use it.
At work we link 2 site with Wireless Cisco Equipements, 2Km between site, with Directionnal AP 2Watt, for securty, VPN with SSLv3 and Linux Radius Server Authentification for client, based on Microsoft Active Directory LDAP...
Manu404 1 year ago
@SkyFitsHeaven24 wired is 100 times more reliable, no security issues or keys, wired is much faster, you cant wireless connect routers, switches, servers etc. only endline computers
cjmitz 1 year ago
@AsktheBuilder Agreed I am going to school for IT and they taught us how to "sniff" wireless networks and it is simple as pie, and can be done in no time at all. Electrical equipment, such as florescent light bulbs, and microwaves interfere with Wi-Fi. Also look at the speed differences. Wireless N runs 300mb/s half duplex. Also only one PC can transmit at a time. More PCs = Slower speed. Also if you do plan to secure your network that adds overhead which slows you down even more.
immakinbacon 1 year ago
@AsktheBuilder
Your right wireless networks suck, a good wired network copper or fibre is miles better its quicker, more reliable and more secure.
Mr100duke 1 year ago
@AsktheBuilder yea wait until someone hacks your wireless network lol
ghostmarine1000 1 year ago
@ghostmarine1000 I'm waiting.... It's one of the reasons we don't feed our attack dog too much. She's waiting for the opportunity to discover someone on our property who's trying to get into our secure WiFi. I say bring it on. Let's see if the hacker can break the code before the dog gets her/him. :->>>>>
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
@AsktheBuilder . my friends and I used to hack wireless all around the place using about 10 laptops in the car scanning and breaking all kind of security key then putting a nice notpad on there desktop saying that we got in there wireless and how we did it + some tips to make there wireless the most secure. our range of action is about 100 meters. linux power :)
stolenick 1 year ago
@ghostmarine1000
If one is using WPA-PSK then it is physically impossible to crack the network key. The only option is to brute force, and if you have a good security policy that specifies a limited number of attempts this risk is eliminated.
snedie69er 1 year ago
wired iz safer and faster then wireless u can easily hack a wireless network, if u know what ur doing that is.
steve000o 2 years ago 2
@SkyFitsHeaven24 Wired networks are faster... especially when you want to transfer 170 GB to a workstation on the third floor in less than 2 min ...
sappiou 1 year ago
@SkyFitsHeaven24 Also using CAT6 cable you can reach gigabit speeds which wireless doesn't even come close to.
maybachlover15 1 year ago
@SkyFitsHeaven24 Additionally your bandwith sucks on a wireless connection dude.
Vroktar2009 1 year ago
@SkyFitsHeaven24 I just built a house, I have cat 6, and HDMI, and open 2" conduit run all over my house.
Why use cat6 instead of wifi, Have you ever tried to move 40GB blu-ray images via wifi? Ever tried to streem HD tv via wifi?
73BDM 1 year ago
@SkyFitsHeaven24 I do, in fact I only ever use wireless when it is impractical to have an Ethernet cable running from a node to my laptop.
Alex1M6 1 year ago
Can you install a head end tv system i.e. 2 multiplexers and a PSU?
sim2lew 2 years ago
some people call theas geek boxes
windoes98se 2 years ago 2
this is great information....
kino261988 2 years ago
What are these wiring boxes actually called, and who manufactures them?
PyrotekNX 2 years ago
Google "Structured Wiring"
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
thats not much info when you say google
luckyme2585 2 years ago
You can't be serious..... There are thousands of results when I do that search. They all answer Pyrotek's question.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago 2
It is a data distribution box. For home use, they have this type of set up at Lowes or Home Depot. For industrial, you can go to black box and check out their equipment.
monrovian935 2 years ago
@PyrotekNX Sorry, i don't know if my previous comment posted, but anyways, these boxes are made by Leviton. You'll see the various sizes on their website. They can hold computer networks, telephone hubs, cable, and audio. Home Depot sells this stuff.
coolboarder44 1 year ago
is there a website I can go to to purchase the box and the components inside of it?
maybachlover15 2 years ago
Im new in the low voltage world AND I LOVE IT :]
monsourbaker 2 years ago
I had to comment that coaxial splitters should never have ports left open. The ports that had the blue caps in this video should have been terminated with a 75 ohm terminator of some type. Otherwise it was a good clip.
rbeknight 2 years ago
it shouldnt be installed at all..... when the cable guy comes his going to have a hell of a time putting good fittings that are not crimped but compressed... checking to make sure that the signal is good to each particular place in the house especially if it is a modem and a lot of the times those block 2 way communication so you might as well not put a cable box splitter home control in there. label the lines to each room accordingly and let the installers do their thing.
blazinbear82 2 years ago
How difficult would it be to retrofit one of these in a 30 year old home?
howardrevolution100 2 years ago
Each house is different. There is no Spandex answer. Sorry.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Hey Howard, the most difficult part of any wiring is getting the wire in the walls.
As you can imagine getting to a 2nd or 3rd. floor is far more difficult after the house is finished, this applies to a 3 year old house or a 30 year old house.
Once all the wiring is run connecting it into a unified box (such as shown) is actually quite easy, this applies to high voltage wiring as well with the exception of those types of wires being terminated into an electrical box.
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
lets not forget that if your getting satellite youll need a switch and if its cable it will be a splitter and you might be needing an amp for both so just leave the lines that goes out for everyone else who does that.
blazinbear82 2 years ago
It's called a MDF main distribution frame. Inside wire. I'v been doing this for over 20 years and even techs call for help on this type of application. You should contract this out if you don't know Bicsi standard. Know what you know and don't. Most techs can't even really tell you the difference between 568A and 568B and why they are different. But I regard this application as a new found respect for data and telecommunication needs. Not just POTS anymore. (Plain old telephone service.)= POTS
James1toknow 3 years ago
I can't believe there is a tech in the world who doesn't know that 568A and B are just two different standards and you use the same on each end to make a typical cable and you use one on one end and the other on the other end to make a crossover cable. Even the jacks show both color codes. For you to say that most techs don't know that is pretty misleading.
andyssss 3 years ago
i love this guy
dalvirkaur 3 years ago
i love these, they are way better than our traditional mess
pctech7827 3 years ago
Wow, this is a very good idea. You could also add like a internal wireless router and have everything in a organized place. Very nice.
ichigo3223 3 years ago
You can do that but your wireless router's signal will be greatly reduced. The best way to resolve that would be to poke your antenna through one of the knockouts or cut a hole for them.
madbax68 3 years ago
That is very interesting, Thank You.
blackdress69 3 years ago
nice panel, but still i choose wireless.
santaslayer 4 years ago
Mr.Tim
i appreciate you & your staffs great efforts to share your knowledge,unlike those people who just simply make bad criticisms on your job but still they did nothing impressive.
Good idea,Keep it up!
yhen77 4 years ago
touch the mains...maybe even some 400amp lol
rgsgww 4 years ago
Bad advice..... :-<
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
errrr... come to australia and get 415V or get the megger onto this nub! (if ur a sparky ull know what this means)
1000V through ur balls... FTW!
aimmap 3 years ago
do i even need to say it?
pctech7827 3 years ago
One of the best sites I've seen for info.
callieg43 4 years ago