Tales of Symphonia - Boss: Zelos (Mania Mode)

[BrincessKarin]

When is the time to speak with Kratos so that Kratos will join? After Celsius or....when?

[Gvuz]

@BrincessKarin If you mean the important talk you do with him to re-recruit him at the end of the game, you cant miss it. You will need to get a doctor in Flanoir at one point in the game. Soon after you will be alone in a room and characters with the most affection will visit you. Say no to all of them 'til Kratos calls out to you and say yes to talk to him. Pretty much at the end of the game you'll get him. Love the guy but was so disappointed I killed Zelos for him get him for so little time.

[nachoelnaxo]

minute 5:10 150 hits

[BrincessKarin]

Zelos is like a pain in a butt

[YUlYoshioka]

I loved how they barely cared about his death.

[Sunkist02]

@YUlYoshioka: Zelos died. Welp nothing to see here lets go on.

I only got the Collette scene in Flanoir. -___-

[corgal2]

God damn, he got raped.

[pikalink2]

how are you linking 2 lvl 1 skills in this battle?

[firedragon33332]

how do characters get in and out of your party? which ones can you keep all the way through?

[TheMrFriskable]

@firedragon33332 After the Doctor Scene with Altessa in Flanoir you will stay the night People will knock on your door DO NOT answer any of them except the last one and you will kill Zelos and keep Kratos if you do answer a knock you will remain with your current party (Reccomend taking Kratos HE IS BETTER)

[TheOriginalSolicious]

I had no idea this battle even existed in the game. MUST......PLAY......MORE

[FelicianoCookie]

Y'know something funny? I didn't cry when I watched this video...but I did when I fought him myself. It's different when you actually do it yourself, I guess.

I love you forever, Zelos!

[iiAdaptx]

When he used Sword Rain: Alpha into Raining Tiger Blade <3 looks so epic

[LeonTheJudas]

"Might as well go all out right?"

Zelos is actually making fun of Lloyd here because of his tendency to say "Lets go all out" during the start of battles

[Darkshadowgirlemo]

You..You just made me depressed. Dammit, I need that scene.. But, I'm gonna cry when I fight him. TT_TT

[KaitoKun72]

i liked the part when he said ooh-aiaiaiaiai-ooh-aiaiaiaiaia­i!

[tinjus1118]

Falcon's Crest?!?!?

[flybird456]

AHHH!!

See I finfished the game like a week ago ( :D ) but I choose Zelos... so I wanted to see what would happen if I were to have chosen Kratos...

[HeavyMetalBeliever]

@NightHowlingLoneWolf Zelos is happy regardless of whether he lives in the end or he dies. He knows that either way he'll be free from his responsibilities as Tethe'Alla Chosen

[ErnestBowl]

What is this "Victory Light Spear" thingy? I never saw that before.

[adikkuchan]

@ErnestBowl If you're familiar with Eternia, it's called Double Spiral Attack. It's basically another Light Spear in midair.

[allstar31992]

@ErnestBowl Zelos's T type move, instead of his S type Light Spear Cannon.

[shadowsofpeace13999]

Raine&Genis: *stares*

Zelos: uh...DAMN!!! *dies*

Presea: He finely shut up.

Lloyd:yeah...

Sheena: it's about time!!

Colette: at lest say RIP first.

Regal: *WTF Face*

((I'm a fan of all of the main good-guys/girls so I have no hate))

[shadowsofpeace13999]

Raine&Genis: Prism Stars

Zelos: uhuhuhuiiiuhuhuhuhuuhiiiiuhuhi­iiuhuuhuh

Presea: doesn't he ever shut up?!

Lloyd: doesn't seem like it.

Sheena: SHUT UP AND DIE ALL READY!

Colette: I pray that you die fast.

Regal: *WTF Face*

((I'm a fan of both Zelos and Kratos so IDK if I'll fight him))

[VayuPurana]

I never cared for zelos, he looked like a beautiful woman and always hit on beautiful women, he was annoying, I'd much rather have kratos for personality and battle wise he's much better

[MetaKnightsKirby]

2:33

Greatest Lightning Blade ever.

[chloe28622]

I would always trading Zelos in for Kratos. Why couldn't they just let us keep them both? T_T I remember I cried the first time I had to kill Zelos. D'X

[E15]

Lloyd is BEAST!!

[Revix77]

this was one of my favorite boss fights but at the same time my least favorites because of the aftermath. i mean sure i got Kratos back but i mean you killed a party member man and on top of that Zelos is my backup when i don't feel like slashing it up with Lloyd (and was like super helpful in the single Colosseum when i was trying to beat seles)!

[DRBoy55]

Lol I always enjoy the fact that Genis and Raine always feel the need to get so close to the boss character...I've made peace with the fact that they are masochists~

[AlexandriaFrostsabre]

Poor Zelos... the only major boss that gets no overlimit...

[Sunkist02]

Kratos, Zelos, and Regal are epic. I got the Collette scene though at Flanoir. I didn't know if you got the Kratos scene that Zelos would die. Then again I just finished my first playthrough. xD

I wish they had this kind of option near the end of Abyss with the final battle between Asch and Luke. That if Luke lost he would stay behind instead and you could play as Asch for the final battle or something. xD

[16Shantavia]

Zelos is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Kratos im sorry cuz

[Squeedly135]

This game is like a fucking movie, but its a game, but it has such an amazing story, but the gameplay is so amazing.... jbwsdugfvudvf v BEST GAME FUCKING EVER. I mean when you fight kratos for the first time i was like :'O?

[elDudacus]

"I-ughughgughgjghgughgughghi-i­-i-ii--i-i-i-ughughguhgughgugh­-I!"

[ChaoFunable]

DUDE. UR GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD AT THIS GAME!!!!!

[greasefreak1234]

Who else thinks that the way Zelos falls right after the battle is just soooo funny?

[Nspinhead2]

Lawl.

[XAngelCharityX]

I know that people would prefer to fight Zelos, but I think Zelos is useful considering his getting-free-items-from-female­s EX skill. XD

[Snipaofdeth94]

150 hit combo finisher...

[AznPridr]

It is the same guy. Scott menville

[PistonVI]

Um, is it just me or does Lloyd sound like Robin from Teen Titans...?

[supersayiangoku4]

@PistonVI its the voice actor that played robin in teen titans

[PistonVI]

@supersayiangoku4 Well yeah, I meant to say voice actor, but thanks.

[TheBeatlesMadness]

You..are...amazing! Your battle tactics as well as all those combos you strung together. I'm in awe of how great you are. I'm very jealous.

[djman112122]

I NEVER WANNA LOOSE ZELOS D:

[MrNintendoFanMan]

For trusting Zelos that much, nobody seemed that heartbroken when he died. 

[MrTTu55]

How did you link Sword Rain Alpha to Raining Tiger Blade.. I never figured out how people do that. Is it through the Unlimited Combo Exploit or something?

[MrNintendoFanMan]

@MrTTu55 After using Sword Rain Alpha a certain amount of times you can link it to other attacks easier such as Raining Tiger Blade because you can cancel the uppercut on Sword Rain Alpha. -Alex

[mistermarple]

damn, you fight good

but one question:

demon fang and than tiger blade? two lv 1 attacks?

[DRBoy55]

@mistermarple Yeah its a skill that lets you use two lvl 1 skills in a combo and it comes from the ex gems, if I'm not mistaken. I dont remember the name of the skill off the top of my head, but look it up. It's awesome to have on Lloyd

[IGotCandyInMyPocket]

Don't think I am crazy but, I found Zeloses battle to be easy both on normal, and Mania ^^'

[goldensun003]

so, i wanna know something: if you choose Zelos insetad of Kratos, Zelos when rejoins with the party will learn judgement? and if i choose Kratos he will learn it (Kratos)?

[rego1100]

BEST FUCKING GAME EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cb52211]

I love how at 4:15 Zelos attacks Lloyd, pushes him backwards which causes Lloyd to push Raine back with him, which saves Raine from a Judgment strike that otherwise would have hit her.

[amobi25]

HOLY SHIT!

NICE GRADE :)

[SpectrumDiamond]

Thanks for posting!

I love Zelos too much to ever kill him, but I still wanted to actually see what happens...XD;

[amescher100]

"damned idiot"

she still hates zelos, even in death. lmao

[SKATERBOY96ify]

@amescher100

Really I thought they were good friends with a twisted relationship. They have many skits together and her last sentence to Zelos was imo like "you shouldn't have done that" and not like "good to see you're dead"

[amescher100]

@SKATERBOY96ify true but she hated him too lol. she always criticized him for EVERYTHING he did

[SKATERBOY96ify]

@amescher100

yeah a twisted relationship. A hate/Love relationship

[FelicianoCookie]

@SKATERBOY96ify That was my thought, too. She was upset that he did that, and yeah he was a damned idiot. He had all that support, if he could only accept it. But I wonder if even that would not have been enough because of his desire to be finally free.

[MegaShadowrunner]

SPOILER canonically, Kratos dies right? So if you fight Zelos he doesn't? Then are you not supposed to fight him?

[ShadowKirby1500]

I never knew how you get to fight Zelos in the game. I just played this game and randomly I battled Zelos, so Kratos joined my party.

[mattmattmattm]

I think this is one of the best battles in the game, and not because i'm a Kratos fan. the emotion involved in this scene and battle are nice and i love Zelos's lines here.

[Thenarutounitedxx]

o.o wow you gots great graphics? Are you recording this from er.. some emulator for gamecube like dolphin or something? Or is it just like you're recording off your tv or something?

[MrNeomaniak]

lol they're like "yeah, he's dead, too bad."

[legomovieman94]

For some reason the pose Zelos takes @ 00:58 makes me laugh. Then I remember what's happening and feel bad.

[shon009]

I never knew you could kill off Zelos!? Oh well i would rather keep him then Kratos. I think Kratos is bad ass but i like how the story flowed with him being my opponent

[TheMauriceTH]

you sure like combo whoring

[FaWi10]

@laureano1610 Kratos was holding back his full power in the first fight and in the second he only bought time for cruxis so that they could imprison Lloyd and his group

[letsplayg]

first i hated zelos but then i played him in the game just for fun and now i like him

[Megidramon]

This battle always pissed me off for one reason and one reason only. I could never talk to kratos in Flanoir.

[Zettonic]

+35 Grade?

Thought the Limit was 20.00?

[adikkuchan]

@Zettonic It depends on how well you did in battle. Sometimes in Destiny 2 I get more than 16+ Grade if I did well in boss fights, even though the limit was around 15.

[Wolfwood824]

@Zettonic

It's 30.00 on Mania normally, but it goes up to 60.00 if you get the 2x Grade option in the Grade shop.

[lightningthehedehog]

who the hell has the time to defeat a boss with that much life

[buchron37]

@lightningthehedehog Abyssions has like 5 times more hp

[xeonaught10]

ahhhhhhh NOT THE FACE

[Dexter158]

wow i didn't know you could fight Zelos and get Kratos in your party instead. Gotta play the game again

[DeQuonte5410]

oh and wtf!!! hes in the next game >.>

[IrukutheNinja]

@DeQuonte5410 This story path isn't canon(official).

[zonco15]

@DeQuonte5410 this part of the story is optional....

[DeQuonte5410]

rewind!!! zelos is an angel?!?!?!?!?

[DarkJokerOfAmuro]

@DeQuonte5410

well he IS the chosen of Tethe'alla

[loner1878]

Zelos is awesome. This made me so sad - but luckily its not canon. 

[Hawkeye4500]

The music in this fight is my favorite in THE FRANCHISE.

[MrTHeLaMe1]

3:13 zelos :oh f#^k D:

[shanghaiSkymau5]

wow, this is the first vid i've seen where someone else used the sword rain alpha -> raining tiger blade combo i use...

[Klookko]

why would you even want to fight Zelos D:

Zelos is way more awesome than Kratos

[Silfalas]

How did you cancel Sword rain alpha's upper cut right into Raining sword rain?

[XgutitavoX]

@lippychapped easy very easy do RAY and other from genis you have some options like indignation explode ground dashes all strongest one

[zachm202]

@XgutitavoX Ray OR Holy Lance.

[Espatha]

150 HITS* HOLY SHIT!

[bradhuygens]

at first i thought the gravics in TOS2 and TOS were close to the same but o ther way different and this is the proper way to play so zelos should not have been in TOS2

[Dsurvivor21stCentury]

The way Zelos dances during battle makes me love him.

[UggieBoogie]

"Not in the face!!!"

[Ninjaboi8175]

Hey does anyone know of another alternate path in the game? Like your able to choose between zelos and kratos and the game's story changes a bit, any other time where what you do or don't do changes the course of the story?

[xXScheckoXx]

@Ninjaboi8175 you can decide wether you go to palmacosta first or destroy the humanranch in Luin first if you decide to destroy the Humanranch in Luin first Sheena joins the team earlier but it has no effect to the story

[Ninjaboi8175]

@xXScheckoXx ah ok, that I didn't know either, but then again I never tried to do that first :P. Thank you by the way.

[bradhuygens]

Zelos is toooooooo much like me he acts JUST like me has the same attitude and is great at picking up girls

[bradhuygens]

wait so when does Zelos betray you if he does?

[SymphoniaFan101]

@bradhuygens Waaaay at the end. And a scene occurs and if you answer you trust him, he still fights you but comes back later. So either way, he betrays you. It just differs if he dies or not. If you trust him, you get him back. If you don't, you get Kratos.

I believe the scence happens in Flanoir.

[0Sunmoonstars0]

Is it true that after you beat Zelos Kratos still goes to Derris Kahrlan at the end? If so, then I don't see the point of Kratos joining your team and that Zelos dies. But at the other side you do see Zelos In TOS2 and Kratos is at Derris Kharlan then... So I guess that then you want to fight for the last with Kratos...

[billypie1234]

yeah zelos you eat Lloyds 15 damage! ;D

[Colquhounboy1993]

"Damn! A 150 hit combo? Freaking Lucky Unison..." That's how I interpret his final "Damn!"

[supersaninpikachu]

he has a cool sword in this fight XD

nice job omega, you make a hard game look easy.

[martelsexy]

he comes back ppl u all r like aw zelos died u either get the choice to get him back or kratos

[Zgiadz]

Damn great scene...It's probably the moment I love Zelos the most ( even if it's my favourite character already just after Kratos, but no one matches Kratos after all)...I remember, the first time I did that fight, I was under shock , I even hoped he would come back later...But he just died, as he lived : as an epicurian idiot..Still, we love you, Zelos!

[TheTalesofHunter]

I think i am a tad overleveled for this....lvl 115 on mania

[Channighan]

Can't belive some people don't get the "Might as well go all out right?" part at the beginning of this battle. Honestly

[firelord555]

Would have loved it if Sheena cracked up when Zelos died instead of saying Damned idiot. >_>

[bellboy64]

Sheesh. Sheena's the epitome of good nature.

*Zelos dies*

Sheena: Damned idiot...

[dexlezhermit]

genis: ALL RIGHT Cyclone

Presea: Danger

:D

[BrannenSaxGuy]

Do you have to have a certain ability to string special moves? like demon fang > tiger blade > heavy tiger blade? Or can you just use them in a row wwithout a certain ability?

[kmelfina]

1:16 That's one hell of a miss o_o

[Yugizelda9000]

im playing with 10XP and im thinking how easy will be this battle on mania mode xP im at level 103 and i havent havent got on disk 2 muahaha xD

[SushiLove121]

4:08 Lol. Raine uses nurse in Front of Zelos.

[ChangedFigure]

maaaan, Omage I am extremly jealous of you. You not only have every game that I imagine to have, but are awesome at them. Don't get me wrong, i love all my games... but I still have wants to. It'd be the best to have a sibling or friend like you.

(I know I sound like a lil kid)

[SymphoniaFan101]

Zelos: Damn nurses...

[Kasyupea]

@vonalo realy????

[janimedude]

hell fuckin yeah now thats a sword rain alpha unlike that sad vesperia excuse of a move >.> though i still like the game they kinda ruined some of the moves

[Kidkool2]

No joke, I literally almost cried when I did the story this way.

[XendylArius]

I was kinda expecting Sheena to say:

"Um, when the (censor) did he get angel wings!?"

[SandraxChan]

Why your TP never go down? o_O

[aguzagu9999]

5:32 Sheena  *facepalm*

[erika2497]

Man... I always killed Zelos in my game because I like Kratos WAY more, but I wish there was a way where you could get the Kratos ending without having to kill Zelos... I always cry at this part.

[Colquhounboy1993]

Holy fuck, two unisons IN A ROW?!

[AresSnipes]

I really want this game! : O Whats the reason Zelos betrays you, and at the end is he still good hearted?

[SWCeagles2007]

@AresSnipes zelos betrayed them because he wanted to side with the people most likely to win. obviously he was wrong about that. he is still good hearted at the end though.

[Dsurvivor21stCentury]

@AresSnipes He wants to be relieved from his duty as the chosen of Tethe'alla (if i spelt that right). Yeah he's still good hearted in the end.

[jayrookiecw]

how do u get llyod to use all the combos back to back without pausing?!

[sonic26000]

*at the battle results*

Don't act so surprised >_> you totally pwn at this game.

[Lyonharvestmoonfan]

You know that there is a form to don't fight him

[Omidimaru1]

i felt bad when i fought him the first time and every time after that i fell bad ya i like Kratos but its a sad death ima keep him on my team from now on

[oriramu]

I have to tell you, the first time i fought him and won, I didn't felt good..he was better in the group than returining kratos in there.!

it was on my 2nd playthrough I fought him by the way.

[gorillazhead]

"Blah blah blah, PHOTON!"

Lol... Rita.

[Warriorsfan354]

Y' know... I never blocked through my whole playthrough of tos...

[Sonicnathan1]

I don't care what anyone said, watching that jackass get beaten to the pulp made me feel good.

[UpliftingAstra]

@Sonicnathan1 You sir gain the award for biggest understatement of the century.

[KRATOSxARUION]

how much Hp can one guy have?

[ShadowTheHedgehog88]

i wish u could keep both Kratos and Zelos T.T

[zBiyte]

Ready for this? JUDGMENT!

[mseifer]

Man I bow to you for your excellent gaming abilities : 3

[SandraxChan]

Oh and: OMG YOU KILLED ZELOS O_o T.T

[SandraxChan]

Omg i think i hat to play that Game 100 times, bevore i can play it as good as you o_O (sry about my bad english, im from Austria xD)

[FireflySkateboarder]

The ending is very sad. I hate going that way where you talk to Kratos. Zelos really is a good guy over all. but somehow talking to Kratos that night made him evil, crazy isn't it? but its so pitiful when hes lying there at the end :/

[DemonDude12]

"We trusted you..."

That quote made me feel the emotion from that battle.

[zuri4rmlaredo]

WTF, i never fought with this guy

[TalesofFans]

Its a optional battle in disc two its either this or some angel guys its in the part before going into the Tower of Salvation in Tethealla there is a cutscene in Flanoir if you talk to anyone else cept for Kratos you'll get the angel battle if you talk to Kratos you get this battle

[SuuOfTheSun]

The first time Raine and Genis do prism stars and hits hitting Zelos, I find it funny to watch his body twitching and him going " I-oh-I-I-I-I-oh-oh-I-I-whoa-I-­I-I-ugh-ugh-I-I-I" XD

Still sad about this scene though ; 0 ;

[e105beta]

This scene makes for better drama than when he lives then comes back to save you 20 minutes later. Him dying and Kratos coming back, I think, works better. That being said, Zelos dying isn't a plus.

[SonicKid12]

"Might as well go all out, right?"

"YOU....BASTARD!"

"You can call me whayever you like, but it's not gonna change anything. You ready?"

I never played this tales game, but it seems like Zelos is a cocky jerk :3 lol

[TalesofFans]

Well Zelos is a perverted cocky jerk but really if you play it he actually cares about everyone else

[edmaster93]

wowow 2 times the unison atack

as you did?

4:42

[Rhy2412]

it a ex skill u get with a character or characters its called L. unison it has a chance 2 give u more then 1 unison when u use it the highest i,ve had is 3 (:

[kageromaru]

I want this on PC damnit xD

[EbilPoring]

LOL genis failed at 1:16 XD

[IsaacAndFelix]

aww =( Do you have the whole Scene? I have been trying to find it here but people just seem to record the battles and not the actual previous~after the battle scenes

[supersonicwarrior55]

i now know how many hits prism star does. 30.

[ubermaster1]

i got this battle on accident on my first run i was like WTF zelos because he was mah fav character other than genis

[Dyanketo]

150 hits... i wanna copy that too o.o" xD

never knew you could have gotten kratos though... lemme try lol

[btolko]

hes not in flanoir look tehres a scene when ur alone in a house then someone come in and want to talk to u say no then another is going to come say no the another and say no then automaticaly u will talk to kratos and done just kill zelos and kratos say hi to ur party

[SuperZeldaLink]

how do we talk to kratos i go to flanoir but he isn't there :S

[chenchachional]

Yes he is, but only after the doctor scene with altessa that your alone in the hotel. Don`t talk to anyone and Kratos will call you out.

[piromaniac9999]

I always hated zelos,he seemed like a perv.

I never liked his arrogant perverse ways.

Genis always made me laugh my ass off when he would quote the dwarven vow number 2 and aggravate lloyd.

[Tentenxhinata]

it was dwarven vow number 7 not two. Lloyd hates that vow.

[piromaniac9999]

LOL

I love it when genis says the vow and lloyd says i hate that.