@dslcobra LOL $60? THAT'S IT? OH YEAH, AAPL DROPPED 5% TODAY YOU FUCKING POOR FAGGOT! LOL. AS FOR ME, I TRADE CRUDE FUTURES. YOUR DUMBASS DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS LOL! FUCKING POOR NIGGER.
@dslcobra LOL IT ONLY SOLD 1.7 MILLION IN A WEEK, LESS THAN ANALYSTS PROJECTIONS!!! THAT'S WHY AAPL SHARES DIDN'T JUMP FOR SHIT. OH YEAH, AND IT HAS RECEPTION PROBLEMS WHEN YOU CALL LOL!!! HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE OF SHIT YOU DUMB NIGGER.
@dslcobra The Droid Incredible has been sold out since it was released over a month ago you fucking idiot. LOL THIS FUCKING MORON DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS!!! LOL WHAT A FUCKING RETARD!
@dslcobra No it wasn't you fucking idiot. Your community college education is showing considering your fucking dumbass didn't even know what supply and demand is. If you could even fucking read, you'd see that I have an iPhone and a Droid. Go back to renaming your folders on your piece of shit iPhone 4 and take some vagasil since Android is outselling iPhone you fucking retard.
@dslcobra "You're comment is stupid." You just made yourself look like a retard. Second, supply and demand has nothing to do with choice. S&D essentially valuates goods. You're thinking of utility. Lastly, in the last three months, Android has increased its market share by 137%. Apple gained a point. Granted, the new iPhone just came out so I'm expecting Apple to gain MS, just not from Android.
@dslcobra lol I'm glad Apple's PnL matters more to you than the end-product. Probably a million or two though. It's already sold out. Google announced it's activating 160,000 android handsets a day. There you go. Two sets of numbers that don't make current android or iphones any better or worse.
@dslcobra No, android is shipping more handsets in the US, iPhone is beating it in worldwide sales. Your metal gear solid video game is paused, go back to it.
@dslcobra LOL "suppossed." Hopefully there's an app to remedy illiteracy. News flash, the N1, droid and evo all kill the iPhone in features. Android is even destroying the iPhone in sales now. Go back to playing video games.
@dslcobra lol you wish I'd suck your dick you fucking queer. Android guys are putting 3200mah batteries in their phones that do like 13 hours of usage time. You are the dumbest fucking apple zealot I've ever seen, which is probably why you use an iPhone. Go upload more gay ass metal gear solid videos you fucking faggot.
The point Apple is making is that "Right Now" there isn't a flash player doing what we see in this video for all cellphones. This is again a "BETA" that is not yet available. The demo looks great and I wish this was on my iPhone but I can get it "Right Now". All of these demos have been on Nexus One's that haven't really sold that well compared to other Android phones. Show me this running on a Blackberry, Windows Mobile, WebOS, etc. This is why they announced its not ready for Windows Mobile 7.
Sooner, than later, probably since Mr. Jobs is raising the ante with his whiny rhetoric (I feel confident saying since I'm a Flash Developer and would love for Apple to enable my apps to move to iPhone, but I won't hold my breath. I'll just hold my Droid :)
Here's a list of Androd phones that won't support Flash 10.1: * Sprint Hero * Sprint Moment * T-Mobile G1 * T-Mobile myTouch 3G * T-Mobile CLIQ * T-Mobile Behold II * Verizon Droid Eris * Verizon Devour
Wow @someonegetsteve do you really want to compare laptop battery life to cellphone battery life? Making calls during the day is a necessity for most folks.
@someonegetsteve I think the point is you might consider an alternitive web media player if you had a choice.. one that will kill your bat, one that won't.. hardware decoding h.264 makes more sense for video, does it not? A lot of flash vids ARE h.264 which is why some iphone workarounds work with some flash video.. After all this time, it hardly matters important sites have iphone mobile sites with h.264 vids. (except for soundcloud, which could just post mp3's and make everybody's life better)
Steve Jobs believes Flash sites will quickly kill battery life on mobile devices. BTW I love how the fully charged battery bar moved after 7 minutes of usage.
The reason why Apple doesn't want flash compatibility in the iphone is because it would sway people away from the app store, it also opens up new vulnerabilities and threats, which apple doesn't want or has a need to deal with .
@mackjeez AKA apple is "big brother" over your device. Android is open and free for you to basically do what ever you want. Apple wants to control your device even though you own it.
The reason why Apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone is because flash on a mobile device will deliver a poor web experience. Apple doesn't want choppy flash videos being played and having the battery drain on the iPhone. Apple cares about the experience.
Google doesn't care about the experience, they just care that they have flash on the mobile devices while other don't.
You're wrong dude, the games will have to be coded in javascript which suck. Engadget ran a benchmark and concluded that flash is faster then HTML 5 and utilizes only 3% more power in comparison to regular browsing.. Google??? you mean Adobe, Google is all for HTML 5, they ran a pacman game on their front page not too long ago promoting it.
@mackjeez orrr it could be apple is just that restrictive and refuses to venture out. I am sure they will release another "great" phone where you can fork another 200 or so and UPGRADE again for one or two extra features. Good job apple.... seems really sensible to run with a company on that note doesn't it :/
Well as long as the mass population demand less, then Apple can do as it wishes. We live in a stupid moronic society in which we long to spend more money on crap that can easily be given to consumers for free, especially if these items are essential to the product(flash).
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The primary function of a phone/smart phone is to make calls. Some folks are reporting 3hrs of mobile phone usage with heavy flash use. @mackjeez multi-tasking is also turned off for the benefit of user experience and battery conservation. Flash 10.1 will not be available on Window 7 mobile or the following android phones listed: Sprint Hero * Sprint Moment * T-Mobile G1 * T-Mobile myTouch 3G * T-Mobile CLIQ * T-Mobile Behold II * Verizon Droid Eris * Verizon Devou
What's your point? My iPhone's battery is dead after playing a game for an hour or two. Get jobs' dick outta your mouth and formulate your own opinions.
@rgrmatt69 Of course your battery would be dead after an hour of two lol. It would be if you were playing a game on android as well. The games you're playing are supposed to be using your CPU, GPU, etc to give u the best gameplay. Me playing a bowling game in flash shouldn't be doing the same thing.
@SoldierKnowsBest "...Me playing a bowling game in flash shouldn't be doing the same thing. "
You fail at knowing how computers work. Flash uses resources like any application. The reason a flash game would not drain your battery would be because it is a weak game. For instance, crysis vs asteroids. Anything that you can see on your device uses GPU, and any thing that runs as a program uses CPU.
@rgrmatt69 You're quite the smart gentleman. I'm sure Job's issues with flash are imaginary. That's why flash player mobile 10.1 keeps getting pushed back
@Liberty252 You're quite the dumbass. His name is Steve Jobs, hence the reason why I wrote his possessive with an apostrophe after the "s." Moreover, do you work at Adobe and know why it's being pushed back? Thought not...now fuck off retard.
@rgrmatt69 But I wont stop! I love your homosexual subtext & your love for flash. That beta can't play Hulu. Flash has major security issues. Apple is developing a competing product. Flash is doomed & you are shamed to admit you are gay. Dude it's 2010! Come out the closet already.
@Liberty252 LOL this 37-year-old faggot gets owned and then resorts to homosexuality. I'm sorry you have cock on your mind so much to think that everything has a homosexual underlying. But then again, if I was as poor as you, I'd think about anything else. lol fucking proletariate.
@rgrmatt69 Run and hide your little youtube profile. Real men don't hide behind mommy's skirt. As for being owned, 2mil iPads sold in one month without flash. Gianduia is coming. It's a flash killer. Folks questioning my wealth should watch Apple's stock price over the last 5 years. Got in early
nerds!!!!!
PIVOTMASTERFRANCISCO 1 year ago
Flash on iPhone/iPod = lower app store activity, that's why Apple won't add flash.
sookster54 1 year ago
@sookster54 google "42% of bugs" and see what it comes up with
BenJEMean 1 year ago
pretty awesome, looks like ill be switching from my iphone to an Android on my next hardware upgrade.
leosworkshop 1 year ago
@dslcobra LOL $60? THAT'S IT? OH YEAH, AAPL DROPPED 5% TODAY YOU FUCKING POOR FAGGOT! LOL. AS FOR ME, I TRADE CRUDE FUTURES. YOUR DUMBASS DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS LOL! FUCKING POOR NIGGER.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra LOL IT ONLY SOLD 1.7 MILLION IN A WEEK, LESS THAN ANALYSTS PROJECTIONS!!! THAT'S WHY AAPL SHARES DIDN'T JUMP FOR SHIT. OH YEAH, AND IT HAS RECEPTION PROBLEMS WHEN YOU CALL LOL!!! HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE OF SHIT YOU DUMB NIGGER.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra The Droid Incredible has been sold out since it was released over a month ago you fucking idiot. LOL THIS FUCKING MORON DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS!!! LOL WHAT A FUCKING RETARD!
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra No it wasn't you fucking idiot. Your community college education is showing considering your fucking dumbass didn't even know what supply and demand is. If you could even fucking read, you'd see that I have an iPhone and a Droid. Go back to renaming your folders on your piece of shit iPhone 4 and take some vagasil since Android is outselling iPhone you fucking retard.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra "You're comment is stupid." You just made yourself look like a retard. Second, supply and demand has nothing to do with choice. S&D essentially valuates goods. You're thinking of utility. Lastly, in the last three months, Android has increased its market share by 137%. Apple gained a point. Granted, the new iPhone just came out so I'm expecting Apple to gain MS, just not from Android.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra lol I'm glad Apple's PnL matters more to you than the end-product. Probably a million or two though. It's already sold out. Google announced it's activating 160,000 android handsets a day. There you go. Two sets of numbers that don't make current android or iphones any better or worse.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra Steve Jobs made an app like that. It's called, "Upset iPhone Users That Need Vagasil."
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra lol maybe. have fun with the folder renaming feature on OS4. sounds ground breaking lol
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra No, android is shipping more handsets in the US, iPhone is beating it in worldwide sales. Your metal gear solid video game is paused, go back to it.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra LOL "suppossed." Hopefully there's an app to remedy illiteracy. News flash, the N1, droid and evo all kill the iPhone in features. Android is even destroying the iPhone in sales now. Go back to playing video games.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@dslcobra lol you wish I'd suck your dick you fucking queer. Android guys are putting 3200mah batteries in their phones that do like 13 hours of usage time. You are the dumbest fucking apple zealot I've ever seen, which is probably why you use an iPhone. Go upload more gay ass metal gear solid videos you fucking faggot.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
Blurry much?
rmnaam 1 year ago
apple is so screwed
gtg092x 1 year ago
Where do you get this flash player from?!
BlackRainINC1 1 year ago
TUTORIAL PLZ
StudioReviewTech 1 year ago
After seeing this, I think its safe to say Apple hardware is missing out.
adacosta38 1 year ago 2
bla bla bla... battery life... bla bla bla
I WANT FLASH ON MY PHONE... PUNTO!!
rrmontero852 1 year ago 2
The point Apple is making is that "Right Now" there isn't a flash player doing what we see in this video for all cellphones. This is again a "BETA" that is not yet available. The demo looks great and I wish this was on my iPhone but I can get it "Right Now". All of these demos have been on Nexus One's that haven't really sold that well compared to other Android phones. Show me this running on a Blackberry, Windows Mobile, WebOS, etc. This is why they announced its not ready for Windows Mobile 7.
SoldierKnowsBest 1 year ago
What about Hulu? Show me Hulu.
justinpe1981 1 year ago
@justinpe1981 it can't do hulu
Liberty252 1 year ago
Sooner, than later, probably since Mr. Jobs is raising the ante with his whiny rhetoric (I feel confident saying since I'm a Flash Developer and would love for Apple to enable my apps to move to iPhone, but I won't hold my breath. I'll just hold my Droid :)
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 4
Motorola Milestones vs iPhone
damn you lose iPhone, you lose
HIPHOPLOURD 1 year ago
The CPU and Batt performance when using flash player 10.1 is very reasonable. Kudos to Adobe flash team.
iluvuillkillu 1 year ago
lol @ casablanca in 30 seconds.
this is awesome!
will it work on hulu?
BetterDayz19 1 year ago
Someone leak that flash 10.1 goddanmit xD ! ! !
Wolladeath 1 year ago 4
So when are WE (Android owners) actually going to get it? I want to develop some flash apps!
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 4
@IntuitiveTeacher yes, when will people actually see a product on the street instead of a demo?
markbyrn 1 year ago
@Liberty252 my laptop battery goes down after 7 minutes of viewing flash, didn't stop me buying a laptop oddly enough
someonegetsteve 1 year ago 4
Here's a list of Androd phones that won't support Flash 10.1: * Sprint Hero * Sprint Moment * T-Mobile G1 * T-Mobile myTouch 3G * T-Mobile CLIQ * T-Mobile Behold II * Verizon Droid Eris * Verizon Devour
Wow @someonegetsteve do you really want to compare laptop battery life to cellphone battery life? Making calls during the day is a necessity for most folks.
Liberty252 1 year ago
@someonegetsteve I think the point is you might consider an alternitive web media player if you had a choice.. one that will kill your bat, one that won't.. hardware decoding h.264 makes more sense for video, does it not? A lot of flash vids ARE h.264 which is why some iphone workarounds work with some flash video.. After all this time, it hardly matters important sites have iphone mobile sites with h.264 vids. (except for soundcloud, which could just post mp3's and make everybody's life better)
rockbandmidi 1 year ago
Great vid! Canu show a video of hulu or some type of online site that streams tv shows?
crml1024 1 year ago
in a video test of flash 10 to flash 10.1 cpu usage was in a minimum... high praise for the flash developer.. adobe
BannyBunch 1 year ago 2
Steve Jobs believes Flash sites will quickly kill battery life on mobile devices. BTW I love how the fully charged battery bar moved after 7 minutes of usage.
Liberty252 1 year ago
The reason why Apple doesn't want flash compatibility in the iphone is because it would sway people away from the app store, it also opens up new vulnerabilities and threats, which apple doesn't want or has a need to deal with .
mackjeez 1 year ago 12
@mackjeez AKA apple is "big brother" over your device. Android is open and free for you to basically do what ever you want. Apple wants to control your device even though you own it.
Apple is just as bad as any DRM.
retsnom92 1 year ago
@mackjeez You're wrong, sir. HTML5 supports games.
The reason why Apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone is because flash on a mobile device will deliver a poor web experience. Apple doesn't want choppy flash videos being played and having the battery drain on the iPhone. Apple cares about the experience.
Google doesn't care about the experience, they just care that they have flash on the mobile devices while other don't.
ReneAlanisJr 1 year ago
@ReneAlanisJr
You're wrong dude, the games will have to be coded in javascript which suck. Engadget ran a benchmark and concluded that flash is faster then HTML 5 and utilizes only 3% more power in comparison to regular browsing.. Google??? you mean Adobe, Google is all for HTML 5, they ran a pacman game on their front page not too long ago promoting it.
mackjeez 1 year ago
@mackjeez orrr it could be apple is just that restrictive and refuses to venture out. I am sure they will release another "great" phone where you can fork another 200 or so and UPGRADE again for one or two extra features. Good job apple.... seems really sensible to run with a company on that note doesn't it :/
Crono8885 1 year ago
@Crono8885
Well as long as the mass population demand less, then Apple can do as it wishes. We live in a stupid moronic society in which we long to spend more money on crap that can easily be given to consumers for free, especially if these items are essential to the product(flash).
mackjeez 1 year ago
@mackjeez so what ur saying is apple is to lazy and would rather not improver the iphone experience to there 8.75 million buyers
sd9800 1 year ago
@Liberty252 It could've dropped to 79% from 80%, big deal
psphacker8 1 year ago
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Liberty252 1 year ago
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Liberty252 1 year ago
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The primary function of a phone/smart phone is to make calls. Some folks are reporting 3hrs of mobile phone usage with heavy flash use. @mackjeez multi-tasking is also turned off for the benefit of user experience and battery conservation. Flash 10.1 will not be available on Window 7 mobile or the following android phones listed: Sprint Hero * Sprint Moment * T-Mobile G1 * T-Mobile myTouch 3G * T-Mobile CLIQ * T-Mobile Behold II * Verizon Droid Eris * Verizon Devou
Liberty252 1 year ago
@Liberty252 WTF are you talking about
BetterDayz19 1 year ago
What's your point? My iPhone's battery is dead after playing a game for an hour or two. Get jobs' dick outta your mouth and formulate your own opinions.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago 24
@rgrmatt69 Of course your battery would be dead after an hour of two lol. It would be if you were playing a game on android as well. The games you're playing are supposed to be using your CPU, GPU, etc to give u the best gameplay. Me playing a bowling game in flash shouldn't be doing the same thing.
SoldierKnowsBest 1 year ago
@SoldierKnowsBest "...Me playing a bowling game in flash shouldn't be doing the same thing. "
You fail at knowing how computers work. Flash uses resources like any application. The reason a flash game would not drain your battery would be because it is a weak game. For instance, crysis vs asteroids. Anything that you can see on your device uses GPU, and any thing that runs as a program uses CPU.
retsnom92 1 year ago
@rgrmatt69
lol
Rawnchie14 1 year ago
@rgrmatt69 You're quite the smart gentleman. I'm sure Job's issues with flash are imaginary. That's why flash player mobile 10.1 keeps getting pushed back
Liberty252 1 year ago
@Liberty252 You're quite the dumbass. His name is Steve Jobs, hence the reason why I wrote his possessive with an apostrophe after the "s." Moreover, do you work at Adobe and know why it's being pushed back? Thought not...now fuck off retard.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@rgrmatt69 But I wont stop! I love your homosexual subtext & your love for flash. That beta can't play Hulu. Flash has major security issues. Apple is developing a competing product. Flash is doomed & you are shamed to admit you are gay. Dude it's 2010! Come out the closet already.
Liberty252 1 year ago
@Liberty252 LOL this 37-year-old faggot gets owned and then resorts to homosexuality. I'm sorry you have cock on your mind so much to think that everything has a homosexual underlying. But then again, if I was as poor as you, I'd think about anything else. lol fucking proletariate.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@rgrmatt69 Run and hide your little youtube profile. Real men don't hide behind mommy's skirt. As for being owned, 2mil iPads sold in one month without flash. Gianduia is coming. It's a flash killer. Folks questioning my wealth should watch Apple's stock price over the last 5 years. Got in early
Liberty252 1 year ago
@Liberty252 LOL buying 100 shares of APPL doesn't make you wealthy. You own a failing graphic design company. Poor people are too pathetic...
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@Liberty252 I was going to buy an Ipad but I already lit 500bucks on fire and took my laptop and had half its core functionality removed. Drat
gtg092x 1 year ago 2
@rgrmatt69 but jobs' dick is so smooth and beautiful!
speier 1 year ago
But...my idol (Steve Jobs) told me Flash would run badly on a mobile device!
Did..did he LIE to protect the iPhone from non-Apple technology?
hbah427 1 year ago