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  • He's wrong, but at least he gives a more concrete answer than McGrath.

  • Also before Adam sinned, nothing died. Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned

  • @eaglrombie13 No.

    Death was part of God's plan from the beginning.

    The eviction from Eden was to prevent A&E from eating from the Tree of Life and, thus, living forever.  Death was built into Adam and Eve from the beginning.

  • @MrFungus420 sir... read your bible.

    Gen. 2:9- And out of the ground the LORD God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

    note; two separate trees, 1'st being the tree of life, 2'nd the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.... In the next comment I will give you Gen. 2:16 (no room in this box anymore)

  • @eaglrombie13 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

    Note: God declares approval of eating ALL THE FRUITS of *EVERY* tree (including the tree of life- which they ate), and RESTRICTING to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you DO, the consequence is that you will die. (continued)

  • @eaglrombie13 Don't you find it absurd to make a claim that will already happen?? Why would God say, "if you eat of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, you're going to die!..... which would happen irregardless, weather you eat or not.......... so don't do it!... you've been warned!"

    Furthermore, God cursed Adam DUE TO the disobedient act of eating forbidden fruit. Thus, merciful God, to prevent Adam from living eternally that way (cursed) exiled them from paradise.

  • @eaglrombie13 Genesis 3:22-23 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

    I'm sorry that you don't really know your Bible and what it says. You should stop listening to apologists and read it yourself.

  • Prior to Adam there were NO HUMANS, the two comments bellow and the speaker are incorrect in the highest sense. have you not READ the text? Genesis 2:5-7 Specifically notice how it say's "and there was no man to work the ground" also how GOD CReATED THE FiRST HUMAN: "then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature."

  • It goes further than Adam and Eve being the first who God made himself known. For they were the first that God's spirit (image) was placed into them. Prior to that there were humans, but they were not made in His image.

  • While i think it is likely that genesis and adam and eve tell of our departure from natural life in our root natural habitats. Passed down for thousands of years by word of mouth ever since we had basic language fit for that task, then written down when we developed a written language. All the god stuff is a reflection of those peoples early superstitions and has been present in all religions to one degree or another. All the modern god stuff is a reflection of peoples abused superstitions.

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