William James Martin, Palestine Chronicle Nov 29, 2011
November 29, 1947 was the date the UN passed the Partition Resolution partitioning Palestine, more or less equally, into a Jewish and an Arab state.
In fact, the ethnic cleansing commenced the very next morning when the 75,000 Arab citizens of Haifa were subjected to a campaign of terror jointly by the terrorist group, the Irgun, under Manachem Begin, and the Haganah, the regular militia under David Ben Gurion. Hamas is Israel's creation!
@samcan1980 that bulishit.the arabs of israel escaped from israel during the war of libaretion becouse their socity colapsed.the leadership fled to cairo and damascus while in the cities the militants of the huseeini family fought against the hasan salame militants,or the iraqi vilntiers,or the abdala militants or the kaukji militants. and none of them care about their own cxivilians/the fact is that almost 300000 arabsalready left israel before israel moved to the offensive.
@odokokan You seem to be spewing your own Zionist propaganda, purposefully or duped by your own government is yet to be determined. The British government was supposed to stay there to ensure the indigenous people Christian/Muslim had a two state solution away from the terrorist Irgun, but they fled soon after the terrorist bombings of the King David hotel, and leaving the indigenous to defend themselves against armed terrorists.
@samcan1980 thats not true.the british enpier was intrusted by the league of nations to ensure the re-establishment of the jewish state in their old homeland in the 1919 paris peace conferece and the san remo conevntion in 1920 and the 1922 british mandat over palestina-erets israel)the meaning is the same)based of the more then 3000 years of constat presence of the jewish people in the land of israel and its exclusive historical coneaction toi it/indigouse people????who?the arabs????.
@odokokan The indigenous people are the Semitics. Ex Jews that have converted to Islam and Christianity. The history belongs to them and not to fake Jews of Khazarian and Polish descent which is what you are. You're not a Semite. This is proven by DNA and Jewish scholars and historians. Let me guess, that's a lie too, right? Only what you say here is the truth. If I follow Judaism tomorrow, that doesn't make Israel mine. I guess America should be given back to the Native Indians!
@samcan1980thats not true etheir.jews have been living constantly in the land of israel for more then 3000 years despite the 1800 years of opresive muslim and christian forgien occupation on them.there isnt any record of mass conversion to islam in the land of israel.infact,since the muslum occupation was depended on the extra taxes that it extracyed from the jews in israel it didnt forced or incourage them to convert to islam/and about the kazars-dna and history proves you wrong.
@samcan1980 islamic historian from the 10 century al bachri and akl masudi,said clearly that the kazars had a jewish king but most of the population were muslims and only a few were jews.in the 967 the kazars ask the help of the muslims empiers against kievuan russ and in return the kazars converted to islam.only the sons of the king remains jews and fled to spain.but during that time there was already a prospering ashkenazi community in central europe originated from judea.dna proves you wrong
and this Idoit on here thinks this aid gets to gaza ! IT doesnot , this is why gazans have smuggaling tunnels to smuggle in goats and baby food and knives for cooking ,yes you can laugh Knives and cement and bricks are forbidden to the gazans so its all smuggled into gaza thru tunnels
ha ha ha Isreal doesnot even allow un peace keepers in Gaza WHY ? Isreal doenot even let humanitarian aid go into gaza even if its from the US thier allies , Isreal takes the best parts of humanitarin aid for itself , isreal policy toward gazans is to make thier lives hell and not to allow world see its war crimes , this is why the un cant get into gaza to monitor human rights abuses , Isreal takes 90 percent of aid destined to gaza for itself , these supplies are looted by ISREAL
@zakaslam1 israel is not in the gaza strip for more almost 6 years.un peace keeepers?i was in gaza many times,never met any of them.where is their base?israel provide huminatiraian aid,electricty,wather,petrol,and iots all on israel expence.israel dosnt take any pat of the huminitarian aid to itself.on what exactly do you base your infintil claim?making false claims such as this dosent impres me at all,nor convince me.
israel is defending itself from arab rockets.dont like it?fuck off.
Why is it that the 117-page Amnesty International report "found no evidence of Palestinian militants using human shields to stop Israeli attacks, but it accuses the Israel Defence Forces of launching attacks from buildings in which Palestinian civilians were sheltering, and charges Israeli forces with killing hundreds of unarmed Palestinian civilians and wanton destruction of thousands of homes."??
- Koutsoukis, J. (2009). Israeol used human shields: Amnesty, The Age.
@OrthodoxDarwinist *palestinians*?never heard on such a nation.when did an independent arab muslim state called *palestin* ever exited?who was its king?can you name one arab muslim from history that can be consider *the independent ruller of independet palestine?lol.palestina simply means israel in greek,and the *palestininas* are jusr arabs,just like syria or jordan and of course egypt from where most of them came from 150 years ago/
Hey ugly racist, WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION???
Why is it that the 117-page Amnesty International report "found no evidence of Palestinian militants using human shields to stop Israeli attacks, but it accuses the Israel Defence Forces of launching attacks from buildings in which Palestinian civilians were sheltering, and charges Israeli forces with killing hundreds of unarmed Palestinian civilians and wanton destruction of thousands of homes."??
@zakaslam1 you got to be realy stupid.if you have bothered to look at my video,you would have seen that i give dates to actual acounts that hamas stole from the supply of huminitarian aid to gaza of interfire with it.
your claims on the others hand have no basis,because they are fictitional.
@odokokan Hamas the democratic elected goverment , has STOLEN AID ! WTF ! The same hamas goverment that ask the united nations and the red cross to give aid directly to palistinians to prevent zionist jews from stealing and destroying aid , which Zionist ISREAL was questioned about the lack of aid getting to palistinians , theirreply was they animals ! Dont lie your a zionist nazi ,like Hitler the nazi who never knew he was a zionist jew , ISREAL polices are the same as nazi germany 1942
@zakaslam1 there is no conection between gaza to the holocust.israel is a small country surrunded by big muslim arab countries that try to destroy it every day by firing rockets on israeli innocent civilians .the only thing that israel do is to prevent from weapons to enter gaza,which is the only logic ang human way to protect itself without harmimg non-combat civilians on the enemy side,somthing that arabs never care when it come to israeli non-combat victims,like many of my dead freinds.
@odokokan Everyday by firing rockets , thats another Zionist lie isnot it ? you been using this rocket excuse for some time , Many times you shot and killed palistianians men women and children for growing crops for plowing land ,you demolished palistians homes in thier ten and thousands all under the excuse of Rockets beeing fired ,your an arrogant liar , You killed turkish civilians on aid convoys under the excuse of smuggled weapons , your a Nazi like hitler , and you hide your crimes !
One question are you Sephardic or Ashkenazi if you are Sephardic then I apologize and you do belong to the region, but if you are Ashkenazi you are nothing more then an economic migrant the Ashkenazi or khazar,s are european Jews who converted to Judaism in in 740 AD the Ashkenazi are not the desendents of the ancient Israeites they are simprly converts to judaism and have no G_d given right to land of Israel.
@ee45exx im ashkenazi,all of my granfathers and grandmothers are holocust survivers.
your clim is if the ashkenazim are decendet of some middeages turkish empiers is ridicolus.
every single DNA test have proven that ashkenazim and sepharadim,and all other jewIsh exiles are practicly the same,and that they share a common ancestor in the middle aeat from 2000 years ago.
most of the KHAZARS converetd to islam in 930 ,and only a few of them were originaly jews,according to arab historians.
jews have been living in israel constantly for more then 3000 years.they are they only ones that eve self goverend tghemself in that area,and more then twice.
the jews are a family, they are conected in blood.they share the same language,hebrew,they share same origin,from israel,they share the same colture,religoin,food,and even clothing.we have anational thing for everything for more then 2000 years.
Jews have been living there for 3000 years? Ok we can ignore the fact that when the temple of Judea was leveled and the Jews were expelled 2000 years ago.
However you and I agree one that very point.
Jews should be able to live in Palestine, Israel or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
I think that Jews should be able to live anywhere they want.
Jewish state? Muslim state?
Those concepts are ridiculous in the 21st century.
I have never seen any historical proof of the first kingdom of Israel.
None.
Im not saying its not true, but you have the book of Daniel which was written after the Maccabean rebellion and that is the only thing Ive ever seen which affirms that position and we know in 2011 that it was written after the fact as propoganda.
I could be wrong about this but isnt 586 bc the year that Cyrus gave Judea to the Jews?
@ZhugeNaut allright,here is some historic proffs of the fist kingdoms,1050 bc-586 bc.
first,cyrus allowed the jews that were exiled to babylon to return judea in 538 bc.
second.the house of david that ruled judea from 1010bc to 586 bc is recorded in tel dan astel.the palce od king david in jerusalem,and the remains of the first temple that were build by his son solomon,were found by archealogist.
many other kings of israel and judea are mentioned in many non-israeli sources of that time/
@ZhugeNaut continue..the king of israel,echav is also mentioned in the kurk monolit as a prtner in a big anti assyrian coalition of countries like judea.tyre and egypt.he is recorded to have the bigest armored chariots army,in 871 bc.
the misha astel also report on rebelions of muab against israel and judea.
in the clack obalisk there is picture of king of israel,yehu,bowing to the king of assyrai.its the same yehu that killed both king of israel and te king of judea in 850bc.
@ZhugeNaut continue..other israeli kings are alos mentioned by the assyrians.
the conqure of israel and the exlie of most of ist poppulation by the assyrians is well documented in assyirians kings anals like tiglat pilasr iii and sanheriv.sanheriv war against judea and not just reported by sanheriv but also by herodotus,the famouse greek historians.
pay attention that the 2 century bc historian eupolemos bring some interesting data about king solomon.and the 1 century ad historian ,josefus ...
josefus flavius report in much details about the history of israel and judea during.brfor and after the first kingdom period,he also report a great deal about the second kingdom.
buit lets return to judea after the fall of israel in 722 bc,as i said king hezlkia is named by assyrinan many times.and his som menashe too.the death f king josia or yehoshiya by pharo necho in 627 bc is also reported by herodotus.
the destruction of judea by the babylonians is also reported
@ZhugeNaut so theere are many historical and archological evidance that the first israeli kingdom did exist,thee is no reaon to doubt it:the hebrew bible has both moral parts but some other parts are purely histoic parts.
any how aboput the book of daniel,in israel,many historians think that some of the *phropecies* are actualy historic reports about the wars betwen the hellenist in israel:the seleciuds in syria and asia minor against the ptolemeis in egypt and israel.
d: wrong!the second temple was rebuilded in 538 bc!the makabiuan revolt started becouse the greeks tuned it into a temple to dioniisus in 170 ad,this is why jews celebrat hanuka!becouse they cleaned the temple from th ediscusting idole worship.
e:judea and iisrael were occupied by empiers!just like spain and grec were occupaied for many years by muslims,but now they are libareted ,israel is just the same.
@ee45exx no,its not alllways hamas fault,and if we,the jews that libareted our land after it was occupied by forginers for 1800 years,would slip on a banana we wouldnt blame hamas,since there are so many ACTUAL things to blame hamas and the other terrorrist grups,like blowing my freind shoshana rise's brain off her head from the bus she was riding to the ground.
occupied foreigners hmm well I look at you and what I see is a white man probably from east European or Russian extraction I would a guess that you are an a Ashkeazi or european jew which are basicly economic migrants, who moved to region to better there lives by inflicting suffering on a weaker group of people, the Palestinians and Sephardic Jews got on just fine for eons until the Ashkenazi's animals arrived and slowly dispossessed the Palestinians of everything they owned
@ee45exx serparadim and *palestinains* got alone fine before the ashkenazim came???and when exacttly did they came?
if you had minimal knowlege in jewish history you would have knwon that there isnt any different between the two grup(ash and seph)and that ashkenazi jews not only stated to RETURN to israel on the same time as the sepharadim,but they also payed the *jaziay* tax for the jews in occupied israel for more then a 1000 years,and both of the grupos sufferend from the arab occupation .
@ee45exx :the ashkenazi and sepharadi jewish grups are the jews that were exiled from judea by the romans.they were brought to spain,portugal,rance,italy and germany.there was no diference between them until the8 century,when spain occupied by the mulsims,and then the division beteen jews under mulsim control in spain,and jews under christian control(france,italy and germany were the same country at that time)started.
@ee45exx 2:the oppresion and massacer of the jews in west europe,esepcialyduring the cruaders time(from 1099)force many of them to go eastwoard,where they were very welcomed in poland.until the 6 century,most of the jews from germany,france and italy move to poland.the expel of jews from france in 1300 and 1350 phisicly sepatret them from their sepharadim brothers.
the sepharadi commnty stat to disingrat aleary in 1380 to 1492,were many of them are expeld of forced to convert to chrisianity.
@ee45exx 3:but jews have always kept on living in oocupoied israel,and jews did returned to live in occupied israel in the middel ages.
infact,ashkenazi jews sdatrted to return to live in israel before the sepharadim did.
in 1200,a big grupe of the most importent rabbis from france and england settled in acre,inspired by the sepharadim rabis like yehuda halevi)1141)and maimonides(1170)that encoureg to zionisam.
the sepharadim came in 1333-1390.andlater in big numbers in 1492.
@ee45exx 4:the sepharadi jews in occupeid israel were dominanat ad all the other oriental jews were later consider as sepharadim.
but the jewish comunity in occupied israel was allways poor,and alreadu from the big earthquack in 748,were totaly depended on donations from jewish communities in germany,italy and spian.
the oppresion of the jews and the mulsim apartheid that was imposed uppon them made them poor and they could afford to pay the jaziya taz for the mulsims.
@ee45exx 5:the arab apartheid over the jews in occupied israel(638-1917)
the jews,under the omar pact laws were forbiden to own or buy lands,build or repiar houses and synagougs,cary any weapon or ride a hourse,and couldnt tetified in court against a mulsim.
they also had to pay,in addition to the normal taxes,the JAZIYA,that wqas an annula,frixed,per head tax,that jews had to pay the mullims,and every single year,beocuse of their poornes,couldnt pay it,and the jews in rurope pay it for them.
@ee45exx 6:the jews in occupaied israel were all the time dependet on the good will of the kazi and the pasha,and they were fined and abused by the mulsim rullers.
the pasha imposed fines and demend money form them,areest their nobels in exchange for ransom.
they were an easy pray for bedoum bandits(they were forbiden to carry a weapon)if an arab cought a jews outside the walls of the city,he would yell*ashlach yahudi*(strip jew!)and he would leave the poor jew naked and barfoot.
@ee45exx 7:despite the mulsim oppresion of jews in occupied israel,jews from poland and moroco kept on returning to live in israel during the otoman period(1517-1917),until eventuly the libareted themself from mulsim ocupetion.
there were no such thing as *palestininas* at that time.there were falahin(pezants of country owned land)and bedouim(nomand bandits) and turks.the lans was called a sham(syria)and was just anthr part of the big otomand empier.
@ee45exx 8:the *palestinians* are m,ainly egyptina soldiers and farmers that imigrated to israel during the egyptian occupation(1832-1842)especilay between haifa and jaffa.
the arabs of nablus are syrians that came in the 17 century(tokan,nimris,jarar and arafat family too)safed arabs are north africans that came in 1860-70 with abid al kadir al jazari and kurds.
many non-arabs from the coustle area are from bosnia and the balkan,or sudanes.
@ee45exx 9:the earlies arab setelers in occupoed israel were soldeirs in salach a din and later baybers armies that recived land to rule,like the tarabay in lajum,abu hilja in the carmel,husseini in jerusalem for example.many towns around gaza were bedoim settelmesnt of trade^muggers that ambushed the trade caravns near gaza(which was the only remaining port in the area after 1260)and alos near jerusalem.
@ee45exx 10:but most of the *palestinains* started to pure into israel after 1920,when the british mandat over the area promised to let the jews ruled their old homeland after 1800 years of occupetion,they enjopy the fact the jews dried off all the swamps in the coustle areas(that were created intantialy by bayberes)andconvert it to blosom fields.this is why most of the arab that were later in 1948 were *depoppuleted* from their *towns* were new to the country.
@ee45exx 11;therefor,im not a forginer in ISRAEL,im toatly local.
not only that my family originat from israel many years ago,and striclty obbsered its traditionsa and language from israel,even with the price of death,but it also payed for many years for the same jews that kept on living in israel under the forgein ocupation and apartheid.
It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . become worse. .. this will assist in realization of our plans. .I have an excellent idea. . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
The anti-Semites shall be our best friends — Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897
EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT :The word ashkenazi is often used in medieval rabbinic literature. References to Ashkenaz in Yosippon and Hasdai's letter to the king of the Khazars would date the term as far back as the tenth century, as would also Saadia Gaon's commentary on Daniel 7:8.
@alfredomafioso im still waiting for your appologies fro claimning that herzel said this and that on the 6th zionist congres in 1896.when in realty(the world that you dont know about)there was no zionist congres in 1896,infact only in 1897 there was the first zionist conges.
im still louging my ass off from that joke you told about the yarmulka
you making unbased claims that every jew can disprove,becous they are the onse that live that radition and that history,while you are reading about it.
@odokokan the Zionist congress of Baale put the blue print for World Dominion ising the international Jewish Bankers who called for 3 World Wars. That s all what you need to know
@alfredomafioso once again you talikng bulishit.world domination??????
so much bulshit.the idea that the herzel proposed,is actualy an idea that was prpoosed 50 years erlier by rabi elkalay.to colec all the money that the jews in the disapora have,and to pay the otoman empier huge debts,in exchange for permitsion to creat a national home fro the jews in their homeland israel,and to buy lands with the rest of the money.what can be more honest then that?
@odokokan Can hardly believe people like alfredmafioso (name suits very well by the way) really believe such bullshit. What wld be the personal advantage for Jews to cause world wars? Also, these extremists seem to think Jews are equipped with supernatural powers. Seems to be the postmodern version of "witchhunt belief"
@DreamFreedom1 realy?what is that name means?is it in french or spanish?
that gut if totaly fucked up in the head.i disproved every single one of his arguments with much pleasure.
supernatural power?i wish... it could have been very useful for my family 65 years ago.
i think this is the postmodren *blood ritual*(the insane middel ages belif that *jews use christian childrens blood in the making of the pesach matsa bread*).
@odokokan Should be Italian. An Italian mafia member. Just like the witchhunt parallels: Sometimes I find it more exposing to make jokes about the mindset of people instead of drawing serious parallels of contents. Many of these people are not interested/ capable of long discussions anyway. Proves even more effective in real life situations
@odokokan "All problems, depressions, wars, disasters, assassinations, all of them were planned, caused, instigated, and implemented by the International Bankers and their attempt to establish a central bank in every country in the world, which they have now done, thanks to corrupt politicians who have been bought and paid for. This is all you need to know about the history of the world."- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Prof. Paul Wexler, of Tel Aviv University in Israel, has proposed that Yiddish should be classified as a Slavic language, formed by the relexification of Judeo-Slavic dialects by Judeo-German.
okokokan! YOU RE JUST ANOTHER BRAINWASH ZIONIST WHO IS LIVING IN LA LA LAND!!! God ALMIGHTY DIDNT MAKE THE ISRAELITES BECOMING RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE; I DONT EXPECT YOU PEOPLE TO SEE THE TRUTH!!!
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
One of the earliest records of such a community in Germany mentions a certain Kalonymous, who, in 906, emigrated with his kinsfolk from Lucca in Italy to Mavence. About the same time we hear of Jews in Spires and Worms, and somewhat later in other places+++ The Thirteenth Tribe by arthur koestler
The skull-cap (yarmolka) is worn to this day by orthodox Jews — and by the Uzbeks and other Turkish people in the Soviet Union. On top of the skull-cap men wore the streimel, an elaborate round hat rimmed with fox-fur, which the Khazars copied from the Khasaks+++ The Thirteenth Tribe by arthur koestler
@alfredomafioso ha ha ha ha ha ha ha,thats is the most funny thing i ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the covering of the head(yarmulka,or actualy,kipa)is a tradition from the 3 century,THAT ALL JEWS ACCEPTED!!!!if it was an uznekian thing,you wont have sepharadim and yemenim with yarmulaka.you are comlitly disconected with the realty.its like you are an alian that just landed on earth.
go and ask every jew why dose he wear a kipa and he will tel you the story.
However, the transformation of Khazar Jewry into Polish Jewry did not entail any brutal break with the past, or loss of identity. It was a gradual, organic process of change, which — as Poliak has convincingly shown — preserved some vital traditions of Khazar communal life in their new country*---The Thirteenth Tribe
"The Khazars and their King are all Jews...some are of the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars." - El Muqadasi 1,000-year-old Arab historian,
In A.D. 864 a monk wrote "there exists a people under the sky in regions where no Christians can be found, whose name is Gog and Magog, and who are Huns; among them is one called Gazari [Khazari?], who are circumcised and observe Judaism in its entirety."
References to a Jewish kingdom of Khazars are numerous in rabbinic literature from the Middle Ages and later. Among them is the famous tale by Rabbi Yehuda HaLevy, related in his 12th-century work The Kuzari, which recounted the conversion of the Khazar king to Judaism resulting from a lengthy conversation with an unnamed Jewish "wise man."
The first Jewish Khazar king was named Bulan, which means "elk", though some sources give him the Hebrew name Sabriel. A later king, Obadiah, strengthened Judaism, inviting rabbis into the kingdom and building synagogues
So you want me to DISREGARD 10 years of 10 UNIVERSTIES who researched the Archeology of SAMOSDELKA (capital of Kazharia) and found proof that THE KHAZAR MASS CONVERTED TO JUDAISM (they even have a scientif proof of the money coins they found , go to KAZHRIA dot COM ) and I have to believe your BULLSHIT???
@alfredomafioso how can this show any conection to the ashkenazim????
ive been to khazaria.com,where there are many data thatcomplitly reject your theory with dna test.
did you know that leters betwin the khazarian kings to the sepharadim were transfered by an ashkenazi jews from gerrmany?this alone show,that even before the khazar empier colapse there was alreay a strong ashkenazi comunity in west europe,and this is why your cliam that the ashkenazim are khazars is totaly baseless.
@odokokan Your DNA test doesnt say nothing else than Khazar gave Sepharad and AzkeNAZI; otherwise how can explain this:In the Siege of Jerusalem (614), after 21 days of relentless siege warfare, Jerusalem was captured. The Byzantine chronicles relate that the Sassanid army and the Jews slaughtered tens of thousands of Christians in the city,
@alfredomafioso according the arab historian al muqadasi,the khazars converted to isalm after the colapse of their empier.he also said that almsot all the popplation under khazarian control was mulsim.
acording to al bachri,the samlles grupe in the khazarian poppulatio were the jews.
@alfredomafioso realy?you have The Best Divisions for Knowledge of the Regions in your possesion or can you give me alink to read it online?
any how,he said that becouse the khazarians were familiar to the jewish faith,they were easly converted to islam ithout much truble after the colapse of their empier.
the ones that didnt conver went to sapin and also to keiv ,were later they would meet the ashkenazim in the 13 century.
@odokokan Oh My god ! you re just full of SHIT!!!! El Muqadasi is an arabic CHRONICLE and history writer!!!! He visited Khazaria at the time of the Abbaside in the 8th century. NO KHAZAR CONVERTED TO ISLAM but all of then converted to JUDAISM and were expled to GERMANY AND POLAND (some to SPAIN)
@alfredomafioso your claim is if the jewish sanhedrin in jerusale sentenced teshu to crucifiction is totaly baseless.
not onlt that already in the pireod of herod the sanhedrin lost his power for the time,but when any death punishment that the sanhedrin had decred were biblical,like stoning for example.crucifiction is ahelenist-roman invantion,and therefor the realty is that the romans excuted yeshu for their own reasons,he probably tries to encourage the jews to rebel aganist them.
@odokokan When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.” (Matthew 27:24–25)
@odokokan yesterday you wrote:''The Best Divisions for Knowledge of the Regions in your possesion or can you give me alink to read it online?'' and TODAY U RE TELLING ME THATU GOT THE BOOK!!!!Lies,! Al Muqadasi book is called correspondances and has barely 100 pages. DNA research and if we follow the Yiddish geneticians,´who say that THEY ARE THE BEST DNA on earth!! from the azkeNAZI everything jewish is the BEST!!! nobody s take you seriously anymore!!!
if you have the bals to face the truth,go to google books,and search for the world of the khazars:new perspective.open in page 148 and see for your self.
i alreasy gave you spicific location of books,all readable on google books,that on which im basing my opinion.
you are still owe me an appologie for the lies you said about herzel!
Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital
Long-lost capital of Khazar kingdom unearthed in southern Russia; finding said to be of immense importance AFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24
The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
@alfredomafioso great.i already told you that jews have beeing living near the black sea and caspian sea ever since the assirian and babilonian exile time.
i heard that they found hebrew inscripters from around 2000 years ago near crimera.excelent,but it means nothing to the ashkenazim.the khazar empier,controled on an area that had jews living in for centuries.
@odokokan It s not what they say in the article:''The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries'' THIS ID FROM THE 10 UNIVERSITY RESEARCH WHO RECONIZE THAT THE KHAZAR MASS CONVERTED TO JUDAISM
Jews are Victims of their own demises TALMUD: .Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
@alfredomafioso the word yehudi means in hebrew jew.its all the time means israeli.we jews often used israel in regard to jews.becouse being jewish means to be a part of a nation.just like there is a japanses comunity in brazil,they are stile japanese.the same was for jews all over the world.jews from tuinisia in the 8 century for exanple meeting a jew from germany or from persia was nothing else beside meeting his own flesh and bood brother.all jews are brothers.
@odokokanAFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24 Russian archaeologists said Wednesday that they had found the long-lost capital of the Khazar kingdom in southern Russia, a breakthrough for research on the ancient Jewish stateThe city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
If the azkeNAZIs were from the old Israelite tribes, they would 1st of all never been in Russi and Poland, but stayed in the mediteranean area only!!!! THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK YIDDISH (Slavic-Germanic language)
@alfredomafioso and why not???jews were expled from judea mainly to west europe.with the growing christian prosecution against jews in he 11-16 century,most of bthem were expeled from france,some toens of germany and italy but were accepted in the polish kingdome,that wished to furnish its economy,just like the otomans would do in he 16 entury when they accepted jews exled from spain and portugal.
@odokokan it makes no sense WE HAVE RECORD OF MONEY PRODUCTION FROM THE 8TH CENTURY IN KAZHARIA OF JEWISH MONEY!!!! coin with Yiddish (using hebrew letters) on them!!!!
poland accepted chrsitianty only in the 10 century and didnt had a policy of *one country,one religon* like in france for example.the polish kings,just like charleman in the 8 century,wanted to attract jews to their domains,and were glad to accept the jewish refugges from the destroied communities in germany and france.
poland simply didnt had that helenist-roman historic background of hostilty towards the jews like in west europe.
@odokokan At the time of Charlemagne (Karl der gross ) Germany didnt even exist. he set up ACHEN (Aix La Chapelle) AND FRANKFURT (fort of the Franc ) ...stop your BULLSHIT will you !
@alfredomafioso thats true,at his time germany and france were the same country,
but the area east to the rain river was called germany since the riman time,and in the talmud germany is called ashkenaz.before his time there were some jews in germany itself(klen),but only by charleman invitation,big jewish comminties from italy moved to worms,speyer ,magnes and trier and established the ashkenazi community.
@odokokan So you want me to DISREGARD THE ARCHEOLOGICAL PROOF (Khazaria dot com has coin of the 8th century from Khazaria and it s dated using C14 atomic ) AND I SHOULD BELIEVE YOUR BULLSHIT without any REFERENCE BOOK OR ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY?
@odokokan WE RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH RUSSIA which the KHAZAR ORIGINATED FROM and in the 9th century got expeled from it and THEY MAKE AN EXODUS TO WESTERN EUROPE AND NORTH RUSSIA (Samosdelka is located 60 kilometers southwest of Astrakhan)which explains the SLAVIC ORIGIN of the YIDDISH language-
@alfredomafioso another thing about the yidish,is that while the majorety of the jews in west europe were expeld to the east until the 14 century(excluding the sepharadim)and they added many word in slavic to their yidish,some jewish coomuties in germany werent exiled,and they kept their yidish without any slavic words,like in frankfurt and prague.
and this is why up until today when two yidish sepaker meet they ofetn dont understand some word of the other,like my two grandmothers.
@odokokan illogic! they should have vocabulary of all the places they were at, as latin or french BUT NONE NADA!!! only SLAVIC and some middle age german !!!
@odokokan AFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24 Samosdelka is located 60 kilometers southwest of Astrakhan The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
The Mezrahi Jews in North Africa and the Middle east speak Hebrew and Arabic nothing else! they are mostly descendant of old Berbere abd arab tribe in the Maghreb, or mostly arab tribes (AbdAllah Ibn Sabaa as example;Rabbi of Medina was from an old arab tribe).
@alfredomafioso all jews,including ashkenazi,used hebrew in prayer and in writing,while in daily use hey use the local language,mininly arabicin the middel east.
ashkenazi and sepharadi communities were living togheter in israel already in the 13 century,to each other they spoke in hebrew!
The CHRIST peace be upon him and his virgin Mother, was comdamned and sentenced by the Sanhedrin (Israel and Judean Kingdom), which were ISRAELITES and not jews (term jew appeared in the 19th century). As the Sanhedrin CONDAMNED AND SENTENCED TO DEATH John The baptist and his father the prophet Zachary.
@alfredomafioso realy?the term jew apper in the bible and in the talmud and mishna,in the writings of juspus plavius,takitus,dio casio,el msudi,al muqdasi and many many more.cliaming that the term jew was invented in the 19 century is bulishit.havent you heard about martin luters book about the jews,before the 19 century?
and the sanhedrin didnt had any autority ro sentence anyone to death during the aleged crusifiction of the aleged jew called yeshu.only the roman governor had it.
@alfredomafioso calif omar alowed 70 jewish familes from tiberia to re-settle in jerusalem.there is no evidence of mass conversion of jews in israel to isalm.
the book*the history of palestine 638-1099*by moshe gill,explorer thousend of letters between jews in israel to jews in other communities,especilay in egypt and babel,but aslo france,spain,italy and germany.there is no record about mass conversion to isalm,nor anything about the khazars.
@odokokan I didnt say that ALL the real israelite tribes converted as MASS CONVERSION, I said that a lot of them turned to Islam and christianity thru the centuries, because of those 2 religions dominations. A lot of jewish in the arabic peninsula became Muslims in the first 10 years of Islam when the QIBBLA was towards Jerusalem.
then how come the biggest arab clan in israel is al masri(from egypt)?how come the bigest clans in nablus,the tokan,nomris,and jarar are from syria?how come yaser arafts family,are from syria?how come most of the arabs in safed are decended of the algerian abed el kader(1860)?how come all of the arabs from yaffo and its suronding towns are egyptians?the same for the arabs in haifa,acre,and beisan and near jerusalem towsn as well!
@alfredomafioso i dare you to find me a single year in the last 2000 years without any sigificant jewish residency in israel!
there sint such a year.despite the 1800 years of racsit forgein occupation over israel,the jews never stopped living there.and they never stoped hopping to revive their old nation(zionisam).
Sepharad Jews never fought agaisnt arabs, because they have Semite psychological features. They share and didnt want conflict against '' cousins'' arabs, as proof the azkeNAZI jews RIGHT NOW IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE want to separate school children into azkeNAZI and others. IT IS NOT A SEMITIC MIND TO SECREGATE PEOPLE !!!! IT IS A OLD RUSSIAN GHETORISATION !
@alfredomafioso yes they did,and they sufored alot from the arabs under the arab occupation,just like the ashkenazim.
though i object any separteion separetion between ashkenazim and sapharadim,separetion between the two grupes was apart of the norm during the otoman occupation period.
any how,the case in emanuel right now,is sone by haredim non-zionist ultra ortodox grupe.so your claims again are baseless.
@odokokan Your problems is that you people vicitimize yourself to the extent that nobody s believe you anymore! Musa Ibn-Nosair, the Governor of Africa, brought a second army into Spain and conquered other cities, he also delivered them into the custody of the Jews." (History of the Jews, Professor Graetz, Vol. III, p. 109; The Iron Curtain Over America, John Beaty, pp. 194-195)
The New yorker Mgazine had in 2005 an article written by a jewish scientist saying that azkeNAZIs brain is bigger than Goyim brain and also jewish are better lover.
UTAH university Professor wrote an article saying that azkeNAZI DNA is better than goyim DNA.
STOP YOUR F**** YIDDISH BS!!! the only racist are the F*** khazar who invent legend, history, science to justify their lies!!!
The DNA story started in 2000 when the IDF wanted to manufacture some BIO weapon, and they found that the Jewish DNA is too close to the Palestinian DNA. they dropped the project. in 2001 til 2005 some research proved that the Y Chromosome of all the AzkeNAZI, Sephard, Middle easten, Mediteranean (Greek, Italian ) WHERE IDENTIC BECAUSE CAUCASIAN !!!!!
@alfredomafioso wrong!the study was in london!the study in 2000 compared ashkenazim,sapharadim,*palestinains*,and NORTH WELSH WHITE MALES!
the result show that the ashkenazim were complitely identical to the sapharadim,and both were closer to the arabs,and all were distinguish from the welsh,and only a portion of the ashkenazim were a more closer to the welsh then the arabs and the sapharadim.
face it!
every study will show you that ashkenazim and sapharadim are same!
@odokokan Arthur Koestler wrote that Sepharad (meaning Spanish in Hebrew) are of AzkeNAZI origin. Also that all the Mediteranean and Caucasian ethnic have the same Y chromsome : South European (Italian, Greek, Slavic and Khazar) with semitic arabes....big deal!!!!!
@alfredomafioso no,yidish have many words in hebrew and aramit as well.one of the main problem for jews in poland and rusia was that they hardly ever spoke the local language.only the merchent spoke many language while the rest of the people spoke in yidish,laaz(french jewish,ladino(spanish jewish).
most of the jews in judea in the first century knew greec,and thats how they communicat with the romans.
@odokokan well, the big part of Yiddish is SLAVIC,....try to imagine and compose an white wash explanation like the azkeNAZI are used to produce to the Goyim
if there was any truth in your theory that the asheknazi jews are actualy the khzars from south-west russia,the DNA exams should have shown no conection betwin the askenazim to the sapharadim!
but instead the dna exame show that the the two grupes are the same,and they all originat from the middle east!
infact,it show that jews are one of the most homugunis nation in the world,despite 2500 years of separtion between parts of the nation that were exiled.
@odokokan 1st Explain me how YIDDISH has SLAVIC words in it ? also the SEPHARAD are AzkeNAZI who migrate to Spain (Arthur Koestler), The jews among th arabs were called MEZRAHI as beni nadir and beni qir wou qar....they were arab convert to Judaism, as now there s JEWISH YEMENI who are arab convert
@alfredomafioso whas the conection?if you knew yidish you would have known that its a salad of many language.
the sapharadim are ashkenazim??no.jews are reported to live in spain since the time of solomon,and trough the helenist and roman period,especilay after the exple of jews from alexandria in 400.the were all a part of post roman-german kingdoms jews,only afer the arab invasion to spain,while france and germany and taly remain christians,the separetion started.
@odokokan Do me a favor read the ENCYCLOPEDIA called THE HISTORY OF THE JEWS (Pr Greatz), The Arabs never brougth any JEWS TO ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD!!! The SEPAHRADS were living theres. WHY MUSLIMS WOULD BRING JEWS IN SPAIN? and not in North Africa , not in Turkey??? WHY? or at least GIVE ME STRONG SOURCE AS PROFESSOR ARTICLES and stop your YIDDISH BSHIT
ethnic sephardic jews in the medical literature by shelomo elfasa.
another books are:
the history of palestine 638-1099 by moshe gil
the history of palestine the last 2000 years by jaob de hass.
i base my oppinon on facts:
the jewish community of the east europe is orginat from italian,gernan french jews that originated from judea.a portion of them are jews that lived around the black sea and fled to poland during the mongol invasion in the 13 century.
@odokokan Listen! you can not pretend something and its opposite! YOU TOLD ME 1ST THAT THE JEWS LEFT PALESTINE (EXODUS) and IN THE OTHER HAND THEY NEVER LEFT PALESTINE!
The azkeNAZIs are from the old tribe BUT THEY SPEAK YIDDISH WHICH IS SALVIC LANGUAGE!!! IT MAKES NON SENS!°!!!!!
@alfredomafioso no!i said that SOME jews were exiled,while significant jewish presence in israel never stopped,thanks for geneorus donation from those jews over seas,especilay the ashkenazim,so the the poor jews of israel couldpay their muslim occupier the jaziya tax,which was fixes and regardless of actual earnings like the muslim paid.
from one hand you say that the jews are the kiilers of chrits,but then on the other you cliam that theyare decendet from the khazars,and not realted to the jews from judea,that alegdly killed christ. its a contradiction!
how can you claim that the ashkenazim are khazars when in realty when the khazar empier alegdly colaps in 960,there was already a thriving ashkenazi community in germany and france?this make no sense.
The Major difference between you and I, is I bring official JEWISH historian (Prof Arthur Koestler,Prof Alfred Lilenthal, Prof Israel Shahack, Prof Israel Shamir, Prof Shlomo Sand, Prof Shlomo Belamy, Benjamin Freedman, Alfred Rosenthal,Prof Dunlap, Prof Graetz, Prof Dubnow) WHO AT THE UNANIMITY wrote about the KHAZAR-mongoloid origin of the Jews,
@alfredomafioso you can clean your ass with those profesors.
i know that pro moshe gil,the writer of *the history of palestine 638-1099* cliam that the all story about the khazars ever converted to judesam is a jewish-arab legend.mr gil is an expert that explorer thousends of leters that were sent by the jews of in israel to other communities during the arab occupation over israel that parallel to the so caled khazar empier time(638-1099),he said that there isnt even one word about it.
WHY THE azkeNAZI have a language (YIDDISH) that is of SLAVIC AND GERMAN words. The logic should say that they would have either a western europeean language (roman or french) BUT NO!!! they speak their native language, which is SLAVIC from South Russia,
BTW Ivan the horrible never existed, Ivan the Terrible. And Jews never left Russia
another thing alfredfuck,show me aprof that herzel ever encourage wolrd wars.
i have his genius book*the state of the jews* on my lap,and i also read many of his personal diery.in no where did he said somehing like that.
herzel wrote his book without even knowing about seculer-zionisam that developed in east europe,like pinskers book*autoamancptia*,book he defemtly knew about oldr relgous-zionisam,such as kalisher and bibas.the all idea of zionisam is very old.simply freesom from occupation.
@odokokan dont use the F word with me. It s not becauce your mythology is collapsing that you have to force it upon the Goyim. Learn about the Zionist congress of 1897 in Baale.
1864: Lionel Rothschild and Rabbi Hirsch ''reformed(deformed)'' Judaism (changing conditions of Zion, no need to wait for the MACHIAH H )
1870:They commisioned Mooses Hess to write ROMA AND JERUSALEM (Zionism)
1890: Lionel Rothschild visit Palestine and start financing azkeNAZIs settlers.
1897: Theodor Hezl talk about the need to launch 3 World Wars where all the big powers will destroy each other, then the World order having Jerusalem as capital.
More I read your arguments -which is reccurant in all the Yiddish Mythology- I see like usual that everything is about Legend that are made into history. The Arabs didnt bring any jews to Spain. Why would they do that? they found them there )Sepharad). The romans didnt take any Jews to Russia (Biggest concentration of Jews in history and in the World) HOW COME?
William James Martin, Palestine Chronicle Nov 29, 2011
November 29, 1947 was the date the UN passed the Partition Resolution partitioning Palestine, more or less equally, into a Jewish and an Arab state.
In fact, the ethnic cleansing commenced the very next morning when the 75,000 Arab citizens of Haifa were subjected to a campaign of terror jointly by the terrorist group, the Irgun, under Manachem Begin, and the Haganah, the regular militia under David Ben Gurion. Hamas is Israel's creation!
samcan1980 1 month ago
@samcan1980 that bulishit.the arabs of israel escaped from israel during the war of libaretion becouse their socity colapsed.the leadership fled to cairo and damascus while in the cities the militants of the huseeini family fought against the hasan salame militants,or the iraqi vilntiers,or the abdala militants or the kaukji militants. and none of them care about their own cxivilians/the fact is that almost 300000 arabsalready left israel before israel moved to the offensive.
odokokan 1 month ago
@odokokan You seem to be spewing your own Zionist propaganda, purposefully or duped by your own government is yet to be determined. The British government was supposed to stay there to ensure the indigenous people Christian/Muslim had a two state solution away from the terrorist Irgun, but they fled soon after the terrorist bombings of the King David hotel, and leaving the indigenous to defend themselves against armed terrorists.
samcan1980 1 month ago
@samcan1980 thats not true.the british enpier was intrusted by the league of nations to ensure the re-establishment of the jewish state in their old homeland in the 1919 paris peace conferece and the san remo conevntion in 1920 and the 1922 british mandat over palestina-erets israel)the meaning is the same)based of the more then 3000 years of constat presence of the jewish people in the land of israel and its exclusive historical coneaction toi it/indigouse people????who?the arabs????.
odokokan 1 month ago
@odokokan The indigenous people are the Semitics. Ex Jews that have converted to Islam and Christianity. The history belongs to them and not to fake Jews of Khazarian and Polish descent which is what you are. You're not a Semite. This is proven by DNA and Jewish scholars and historians. Let me guess, that's a lie too, right? Only what you say here is the truth. If I follow Judaism tomorrow, that doesn't make Israel mine. I guess America should be given back to the Native Indians!
samcan1980 1 month ago
@samcan1980thats not true etheir.jews have been living constantly in the land of israel for more then 3000 years despite the 1800 years of opresive muslim and christian forgien occupation on them.there isnt any record of mass conversion to islam in the land of israel.infact,since the muslum occupation was depended on the extra taxes that it extracyed from the jews in israel it didnt forced or incourage them to convert to islam/and about the kazars-dna and history proves you wrong.
odokokan 1 month ago
@samcan1980 islamic historian from the 10 century al bachri and akl masudi,said clearly that the kazars had a jewish king but most of the population were muslims and only a few were jews.in the 967 the kazars ask the help of the muslims empiers against kievuan russ and in return the kazars converted to islam.only the sons of the king remains jews and fled to spain.but during that time there was already a prospering ashkenazi community in central europe originated from judea.dna proves you wrong
odokokan 1 month ago
and this Idoit on here thinks this aid gets to gaza ! IT doesnot , this is why gazans have smuggaling tunnels to smuggle in goats and baby food and knives for cooking ,yes you can laugh Knives and cement and bricks are forbidden to the gazans so its all smuggled into gaza thru tunnels
zakaslam1 7 months ago
ha ha ha Isreal doesnot even allow un peace keepers in Gaza WHY ? Isreal doenot even let humanitarian aid go into gaza even if its from the US thier allies , Isreal takes the best parts of humanitarin aid for itself , isreal policy toward gazans is to make thier lives hell and not to allow world see its war crimes , this is why the un cant get into gaza to monitor human rights abuses , Isreal takes 90 percent of aid destined to gaza for itself , these supplies are looted by ISREAL
zakaslam1 7 months ago
@zakaslam1 israel is not in the gaza strip for more almost 6 years.un peace keeepers?i was in gaza many times,never met any of them.where is their base?israel provide huminatiraian aid,electricty,wather,petrol,and iots all on israel expence.israel dosnt take any pat of the huminitarian aid to itself.on what exactly do you base your infintil claim?making false claims such as this dosent impres me at all,nor convince me.
israel is defending itself from arab rockets.dont like it?fuck off.
odokokan 7 months ago
@odokoka
Hey racist,
Why is it that the 117-page Amnesty International report "found no evidence of Palestinian militants using human shields to stop Israeli attacks, but it accuses the Israel Defence Forces of launching attacks from buildings in which Palestinian civilians were sheltering, and charges Israeli forces with killing hundreds of unarmed Palestinian civilians and wanton destruction of thousands of homes."??
- Koutsoukis, J. (2009). Israeol used human shields: Amnesty, The Age.
OrthodoxDarwinist 6 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist *palestinians*?never heard on such a nation.when did an independent arab muslim state called *palestin* ever exited?who was its king?can you name one arab muslim from history that can be consider *the independent ruller of independet palestine?lol.palestina simply means israel in greek,and the *palestininas* are jusr arabs,just like syria or jordan and of course egypt from where most of them came from 150 years ago/
odokokan 6 months ago
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@odokokan
Hey ugly racist, WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION???
Why is it that the 117-page Amnesty International report "found no evidence of Palestinian militants using human shields to stop Israeli attacks, but it accuses the Israel Defence Forces of launching attacks from buildings in which Palestinian civilians were sheltering, and charges Israeli forces with killing hundreds of unarmed Palestinian civilians and wanton destruction of thousands of homes."??
OrthodoxDarwinist 5 months ago
@zakaslam1 you got to be realy stupid.if you have bothered to look at my video,you would have seen that i give dates to actual acounts that hamas stole from the supply of huminitarian aid to gaza of interfire with it.
your claims on the others hand have no basis,because they are fictitional.
odokokan 7 months ago
@odokokan Hamas the democratic elected goverment , has STOLEN AID ! WTF ! The same hamas goverment that ask the united nations and the red cross to give aid directly to palistinians to prevent zionist jews from stealing and destroying aid , which Zionist ISREAL was questioned about the lack of aid getting to palistinians , theirreply was they animals ! Dont lie your a zionist nazi ,like Hitler the nazi who never knew he was a zionist jew , ISREAL polices are the same as nazi germany 1942
zakaslam1 7 months ago
@zakaslam1 there is no conection between gaza to the holocust.israel is a small country surrunded by big muslim arab countries that try to destroy it every day by firing rockets on israeli innocent civilians .the only thing that israel do is to prevent from weapons to enter gaza,which is the only logic ang human way to protect itself without harmimg non-combat civilians on the enemy side,somthing that arabs never care when it come to israeli non-combat victims,like many of my dead freinds.
odokokan 7 months ago
@odokokan Everyday by firing rockets , thats another Zionist lie isnot it ? you been using this rocket excuse for some time , Many times you shot and killed palistianians men women and children for growing crops for plowing land ,you demolished palistians homes in thier ten and thousands all under the excuse of Rockets beeing fired ,your an arrogant liar , You killed turkish civilians on aid convoys under the excuse of smuggled weapons , your a Nazi like hitler , and you hide your crimes !
zakaslam1 7 months ago
One question are you Sephardic or Ashkenazi if you are Sephardic then I apologize and you do belong to the region, but if you are Ashkenazi you are nothing more then an economic migrant the Ashkenazi or khazar,s are european Jews who converted to Judaism in in 740 AD the Ashkenazi are not the desendents of the ancient Israeites they are simprly converts to judaism and have no G_d given right to land of Israel.
ee45exx 1 year ago
@ee45exx im ashkenazi,all of my granfathers and grandmothers are holocust survivers.
your clim is if the ashkenazim are decendet of some middeages turkish empiers is ridicolus.
every single DNA test have proven that ashkenazim and sepharadim,and all other jewIsh exiles are practicly the same,and that they share a common ancestor in the middle aeat from 2000 years ago.
most of the KHAZARS converetd to islam in 930 ,and only a few of them were originaly jews,according to arab historians.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee
Jews are not a race.
Sephardic,Ashkenazi..They were Hebrews.
Judaism was different then but for the sake of brevity I will not go into that.
There is no "right to the land of Israel". Jews did not live in Israel. They lived in Judea.
Judea was only soverign for a few years after the Maccabean rebelliion.
Before the Mccabean rebellion the wall Jews prayed at today was the temple of Zeus.
Judea was controlled by just about every empire of that region. Until it was renamed Palestine by Rome.
ZhugeNaut 11 months ago
@ZhugeNauta; jews are not a race,i agree,THEY ARE A NATION!
b:judesam was different then becouse there was a temple.
c:jews lived in israell constantly for more then 3000 years,thats why they have the right on the land of israel,which the judea area is its main area.
c:wronng!israel and judea first kingdom period is from 1070 bc to 586 bc while th esecond kingdom period is from 167 bc to 70 ad.
the makanis rebelin,hanuka,was in 167 bc and the hashmonaim were until 37 bc,130 years!
odokokan 11 months ago
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ZhugeNaut 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut return to where?
jews have been living in israel constantly for more then 3000 years.they are they only ones that eve self goverend tghemself in that area,and more then twice.
the jews are a family, they are conected in blood.they share the same language,hebrew,they share same origin,from israel,they share the same colture,religoin,food,and even clothing.we have anational thing for everything for more then 2000 years.
odokokan 11 months ago
Finally!
I comment I can agree one.
Jews have been living there for 3000 years? Ok we can ignore the fact that when the temple of Judea was leveled and the Jews were expelled 2000 years ago.
However you and I agree one that very point.
Jews should be able to live in Palestine, Israel or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
I think that Jews should be able to live anywhere they want.
Jewish state? Muslim state?
Those concepts are ridiculous in the 21st century.
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ZhugeNaut 11 months ago
@odokokan
I have never seen any historical proof of the first kingdom of Israel.
None.
Im not saying its not true, but you have the book of Daniel which was written after the Maccabean rebellion and that is the only thing Ive ever seen which affirms that position and we know in 2011 that it was written after the fact as propoganda.
I could be wrong about this but isnt 586 bc the year that Cyrus gave Judea to the Jews?
ZhugeNaut 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut allright,here is some historic proffs of the fist kingdoms,1050 bc-586 bc.
first,cyrus allowed the jews that were exiled to babylon to return judea in 538 bc.
second.the house of david that ruled judea from 1010bc to 586 bc is recorded in tel dan astel.the palce od king david in jerusalem,and the remains of the first temple that were build by his son solomon,were found by archealogist.
many other kings of israel and judea are mentioned in many non-israeli sources of that time/
odokokan 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut continue..the king of israel,echav is also mentioned in the kurk monolit as a prtner in a big anti assyrian coalition of countries like judea.tyre and egypt.he is recorded to have the bigest armored chariots army,in 871 bc.
the misha astel also report on rebelions of muab against israel and judea.
in the clack obalisk there is picture of king of israel,yehu,bowing to the king of assyrai.its the same yehu that killed both king of israel and te king of judea in 850bc.
odokokan 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut continue..other israeli kings are alos mentioned by the assyrians.
the conqure of israel and the exlie of most of ist poppulation by the assyrians is well documented in assyirians kings anals like tiglat pilasr iii and sanheriv.sanheriv war against judea and not just reported by sanheriv but also by herodotus,the famouse greek historians.
pay attention that the 2 century bc historian eupolemos bring some interesting data about king solomon.and the 1 century ad historian ,josefus ...
odokokan 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut continue..
josefus flavius report in much details about the history of israel and judea during.brfor and after the first kingdom period,he also report a great deal about the second kingdom.
buit lets return to judea after the fall of israel in 722 bc,as i said king hezlkia is named by assyrinan many times.and his som menashe too.the death f king josia or yehoshiya by pharo necho in 627 bc is also reported by herodotus.
the destruction of judea by the babylonians is also reported
odokokan 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut so theere are many historical and archological evidance that the first israeli kingdom did exist,thee is no reaon to doubt it:the hebrew bible has both moral parts but some other parts are purely histoic parts.
any how aboput the book of daniel,in israel,many historians think that some of the *phropecies* are actualy historic reports about the wars betwen the hellenist in israel:the seleciuds in syria and asia minor against the ptolemeis in egypt and israel.
odokokan 11 months ago
@ZhugeNaut continue...
d: wrong!the second temple was rebuilded in 538 bc!the makabiuan revolt started becouse the greeks tuned it into a temple to dioniisus in 170 ad,this is why jews celebrat hanuka!becouse they cleaned the temple from th ediscusting idole worship.
e:judea and iisrael were occupied by empiers!just like spain and grec were occupaied for many years by muslims,but now they are libareted ,israel is just the same.
odokokan 11 months ago
@odokokan
I know about Hanukkah.
I also know that Jews spoke Greek at that time.
I dont have time to get into all of what you said right now.
but..liberated?
Really?
Your comparing a foreign invasion of African slaves and Berber Muslims to...
The invasion of Foreign Jews...using the European model of colonization?
The same one Hitler used? The same one that was used in America to displace the native Indians?
You think that was justifiable behavior in the 20th century because some book says so?
ZhugeNaut 11 months ago
HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS, Its always the fault of hamas Israel is never at fault?
If one of you land thieving zionist were to to slip on a bannana skin left on the sidewallk I feel sure you would find some resaon to blame Hamas
ee45exx 1 year ago
@ee45exx no,its not alllways hamas fault,and if we,the jews that libareted our land after it was occupied by forginers for 1800 years,would slip on a banana we wouldnt blame hamas,since there are so many ACTUAL things to blame hamas and the other terrorrist grups,like blowing my freind shoshana rise's brain off her head from the bus she was riding to the ground.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan
occupied foreigners hmm well I look at you and what I see is a white man probably from east European or Russian extraction I would a guess that you are an a Ashkeazi or european jew which are basicly economic migrants, who moved to region to better there lives by inflicting suffering on a weaker group of people, the Palestinians and Sephardic Jews got on just fine for eons until the Ashkenazi's animals arrived and slowly dispossessed the Palestinians of everything they owned
ee45exx 1 year ago
@ee45exx serparadim and *palestinains* got alone fine before the ashkenazim came???and when exacttly did they came?
if you had minimal knowlege in jewish history you would have knwon that there isnt any different between the two grup(ash and seph)and that ashkenazi jews not only stated to RETURN to israel on the same time as the sepharadim,but they also payed the *jaziay* tax for the jews in occupied israel for more then a 1000 years,and both of the grupos sufferend from the arab occupation .
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx :the ashkenazi and sepharadi jewish grups are the jews that were exiled from judea by the romans.they were brought to spain,portugal,rance,italy and germany.there was no diference between them until the8 century,when spain occupied by the mulsims,and then the division beteen jews under mulsim control in spain,and jews under christian control(france,italy and germany were the same country at that time)started.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 2:the oppresion and massacer of the jews in west europe,esepcialyduring the cruaders time(from 1099)force many of them to go eastwoard,where they were very welcomed in poland.until the 6 century,most of the jews from germany,france and italy move to poland.the expel of jews from france in 1300 and 1350 phisicly sepatret them from their sepharadim brothers.
the sepharadi commnty stat to disingrat aleary in 1380 to 1492,were many of them are expeld of forced to convert to chrisianity.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 3:but jews have always kept on living in oocupoied israel,and jews did returned to live in occupied israel in the middel ages.
infact,ashkenazi jews sdatrted to return to live in israel before the sepharadim did.
in 1200,a big grupe of the most importent rabbis from france and england settled in acre,inspired by the sepharadim rabis like yehuda halevi)1141)and maimonides(1170)that encoureg to zionisam.
the sepharadim came in 1333-1390.andlater in big numbers in 1492.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 4:the sepharadi jews in occupeid israel were dominanat ad all the other oriental jews were later consider as sepharadim.
but the jewish comunity in occupied israel was allways poor,and alreadu from the big earthquack in 748,were totaly depended on donations from jewish communities in germany,italy and spian.
the oppresion of the jews and the mulsim apartheid that was imposed uppon them made them poor and they could afford to pay the jaziya taz for the mulsims.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 5:the arab apartheid over the jews in occupied israel(638-1917)
the jews,under the omar pact laws were forbiden to own or buy lands,build or repiar houses and synagougs,cary any weapon or ride a hourse,and couldnt tetified in court against a mulsim.
they also had to pay,in addition to the normal taxes,the JAZIYA,that wqas an annula,frixed,per head tax,that jews had to pay the mullims,and every single year,beocuse of their poornes,couldnt pay it,and the jews in rurope pay it for them.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 6:the jews in occupaied israel were all the time dependet on the good will of the kazi and the pasha,and they were fined and abused by the mulsim rullers.
the pasha imposed fines and demend money form them,areest their nobels in exchange for ransom.
they were an easy pray for bedoum bandits(they were forbiden to carry a weapon)if an arab cought a jews outside the walls of the city,he would yell*ashlach yahudi*(strip jew!)and he would leave the poor jew naked and barfoot.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 7:despite the mulsim oppresion of jews in occupied israel,jews from poland and moroco kept on returning to live in israel during the otoman period(1517-1917),until eventuly the libareted themself from mulsim ocupetion.
there were no such thing as *palestininas* at that time.there were falahin(pezants of country owned land)and bedouim(nomand bandits) and turks.the lans was called a sham(syria)and was just anthr part of the big otomand empier.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 8:the *palestinians* are m,ainly egyptina soldiers and farmers that imigrated to israel during the egyptian occupation(1832-1842)especilay between haifa and jaffa.
the arabs of nablus are syrians that came in the 17 century(tokan,nimris,jarar and arafat family too)safed arabs are north africans that came in 1860-70 with abid al kadir al jazari and kurds.
many non-arabs from the coustle area are from bosnia and the balkan,or sudanes.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 9:the earlies arab setelers in occupoed israel were soldeirs in salach a din and later baybers armies that recived land to rule,like the tarabay in lajum,abu hilja in the carmel,husseini in jerusalem for example.many towns around gaza were bedoim settelmesnt of trade^muggers that ambushed the trade caravns near gaza(which was the only remaining port in the area after 1260)and alos near jerusalem.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 10:but most of the *palestinains* started to pure into israel after 1920,when the british mandat over the area promised to let the jews ruled their old homeland after 1800 years of occupetion,they enjopy the fact the jews dried off all the swamps in the coustle areas(that were created intantialy by bayberes)andconvert it to blosom fields.this is why most of the arab that were later in 1948 were *depoppuleted* from their *towns* were new to the country.
odokokan 1 year ago
@ee45exx 11;therefor,im not a forginer in ISRAEL,im toatly local.
not only that my family originat from israel many years ago,and striclty obbsered its traditionsa and language from israel,even with the price of death,but it also payed for many years for the same jews that kept on living in israel under the forgein ocupation and apartheid.
odokokan 1 year ago
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The "synagogue of Satan" who "say they are Jews, and are not."
Romans 2:29, "...
They are AzkeNAZIs Khazar convert to Zohar (Phariseen)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
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It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . become worse. .. this will assist in realization of our plans. .I have an excellent idea. . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
The anti-Semites shall be our best friends — Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT :The word ashkenazi is often used in medieval rabbinic literature. References to Ashkenaz in Yosippon and Hasdai's letter to the king of the Khazars would date the term as far back as the tenth century, as would also Saadia Gaon's commentary on Daniel 7:8.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso what a joke.the leter between the sepharadim to king of khazars was transpoted by ASHEKNAZI JEW!
and thats mean that there was a disticnt definition and seperaion to sepharadim,ashkenazim,and khazarim.
i see that this story is too big for you
odokokan 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso im still waiting for your appologies fro claimning that herzel said this and that on the 6th zionist congres in 1896.when in realty(the world that you dont know about)there was no zionist congres in 1896,infact only in 1897 there was the first zionist conges.
im still louging my ass off from that joke you told about the yarmulka
you making unbased claims that every jew can disprove,becous they are the onse that live that radition and that history,while you are reading about it.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan the Zionist congress of Baale put the blue print for World Dominion ising the international Jewish Bankers who called for 3 World Wars. That s all what you need to know
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso once again you talikng bulishit.world domination??????
so much bulshit.the idea that the herzel proposed,is actualy an idea that was prpoosed 50 years erlier by rabi elkalay.to colec all the money that the jews in the disapora have,and to pay the otoman empier huge debts,in exchange for permitsion to creat a national home fro the jews in their homeland israel,and to buy lands with the rest of the money.what can be more honest then that?
world domination my ass.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Can hardly believe people like alfredmafioso (name suits very well by the way) really believe such bullshit. What wld be the personal advantage for Jews to cause world wars? Also, these extremists seem to think Jews are equipped with supernatural powers. Seems to be the postmodern version of "witchhunt belief"
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
@DreamFreedom1 realy?what is that name means?is it in french or spanish?
that gut if totaly fucked up in the head.i disproved every single one of his arguments with much pleasure.
supernatural power?i wish... it could have been very useful for my family 65 years ago.
i think this is the postmodren *blood ritual*(the insane middel ages belif that *jews use christian childrens blood in the making of the pesach matsa bread*).
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Should be Italian. An Italian mafia member. Just like the witchhunt parallels: Sometimes I find it more exposing to make jokes about the mindset of people instead of drawing serious parallels of contents. Many of these people are not interested/ capable of long discussions anyway. Proves even more effective in real life situations
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
By the way, very nice friends' list on alfredomafioso's channel: islamofascists and pictures with children martyrs
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
@DreamFreedom1 thanks for the info,but im curious how dose it proven more efective in real life situations?
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Cos you and the other person usually have less time to react and the "suprise effect" is more significant...
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
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@odokokan "All problems, depressions, wars, disasters, assassinations, all of them were planned, caused, instigated, and implemented by the International Bankers and their attempt to establish a central bank in every country in the world, which they have now done, thanks to corrupt politicians who have been bought and paid for. This is all you need to know about the history of the world."- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Prof. Paul Wexler, of Tel Aviv University in Israel, has proposed that Yiddish should be classified as a Slavic language, formed by the relexification of Judeo-Slavic dialects by Judeo-German.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Wexler, P. 1993. The Ashkenazic Jews: A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity. Columbus: Slavica.
Wexler, P. 1991. The Schizoid Nature of Modern Hebrew: A Slavic Language in Search of a Semitic Past. Wiesbaden: Otto Harrassowitz.
Wexler, P. 1996. The Non-Jewish Origins of the Sephardic Jews. Albany: State University of New York.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
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alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Yiddish Buddy,! you should stop posting your dumb ass face on the video! THE CHAPTER IS : THE CONVERSION OF THE KHAZAR TO JUDAISM page 123
Yiddish evidence for the Khazar components in the Ashkenazic ethnogenesis p 387
CORHOBORING THE FACT THAT AZKENAZIS ARE KHAZAR
THANK YOU !!!! I was looking for this book since YEAR!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso ha ha ha,you are so dumb,read what it say about al bakri and al muqadasi.i proved all your claims to be wrong,deal with it loser.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan thank you ! Paul Wexler , page 387 says that the origin of the AzkeNAZI language is from the KHAZARS!!! thank you!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan from page 132. CONVERSION OF THE KHAZAR TO JUDAISM by Paul Golden
PAGE 143 ALL THE KHAZARS ACCEPTED JUDAISM
I start doubting about your english skill
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan Only one chronicler reported that but saying that the King and the court were all Jewish first and the King made JUDAISM a state religion!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
okokokan! YOU RE JUST ANOTHER BRAINWASH ZIONIST WHO IS LIVING IN LA LA LAND!!! God ALMIGHTY DIDNT MAKE THE ISRAELITES BECOMING RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE; I DONT EXPECT YOU PEOPLE TO SEE THE TRUTH!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
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Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
One of the earliest records of such a community in Germany mentions a certain Kalonymous, who, in 906, emigrated with his kinsfolk from Lucca in Italy to Mavence. About the same time we hear of Jews in Spires and Worms, and somewhat later in other places+++ The Thirteenth Tribe by arthur koestler
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The skull-cap (yarmolka) is worn to this day by orthodox Jews — and by the Uzbeks and other Turkish people in the Soviet Union. On top of the skull-cap men wore the streimel, an elaborate round hat rimmed with fox-fur, which the Khazars copied from the Khasaks+++ The Thirteenth Tribe by arthur koestler
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso ha ha ha ha ha ha ha,thats is the most funny thing i ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the covering of the head(yarmulka,or actualy,kipa)is a tradition from the 3 century,THAT ALL JEWS ACCEPTED!!!!if it was an uznekian thing,you wont have sepharadim and yemenim with yarmulaka.you are comlitly disconected with the realty.its like you are an alian that just landed on earth.
go and ask every jew why dose he wear a kipa and he will tel you the story.
odokokan 1 year ago
However, the transformation of Khazar Jewry into Polish Jewry did not entail any brutal break with the past, or loss of identity. It was a gradual, organic process of change, which — as Poliak has convincingly shown — preserved some vital traditions of Khazar communal life in their new country*---The Thirteenth Tribe
by arthur koestler
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
"The Khazars and their King are all Jews...some are of the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars." - El Muqadasi 1,000-year-old Arab historian,
In A.D. 864 a monk wrote "there exists a people under the sky in regions where no Christians can be found, whose name is Gog and Magog, and who are Huns; among them is one called Gazari [Khazari?], who are circumcised and observe Judaism in its entirety."
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
References to a Jewish kingdom of Khazars are numerous in rabbinic literature from the Middle Ages and later. Among them is the famous tale by Rabbi Yehuda HaLevy, related in his 12th-century work The Kuzari, which recounted the conversion of the Khazar king to Judaism resulting from a lengthy conversation with an unnamed Jewish "wise man."
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The first Jewish Khazar king was named Bulan, which means "elk", though some sources give him the Hebrew name Sabriel. A later king, Obadiah, strengthened Judaism, inviting rabbis into the kingdom and building synagogues
KHAZAR derived and give AzkeNAZI
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
So you want me to DISREGARD 10 years of 10 UNIVERSTIES who researched the Archeology of SAMOSDELKA (capital of Kazharia) and found proof that THE KHAZAR MASS CONVERTED TO JUDAISM (they even have a scientif proof of the money coins they found , go to KAZHRIA dot COM ) and I have to believe your BULLSHIT???
We re fed up with azkeNAZI BS!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso how can this show any conection to the ashkenazim????
ive been to khazaria.com,where there are many data thatcomplitly reject your theory with dna test.
did you know that leters betwin the khazarian kings to the sepharadim were transfered by an ashkenazi jews from gerrmany?this alone show,that even before the khazar empier colapse there was alreay a strong ashkenazi comunity in west europe,and this is why your cliam that the ashkenazim are khazars is totaly baseless.
odokokan 1 year ago
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@odokokan Your DNA test doesnt say nothing else than Khazar gave Sepharad and AzkeNAZI; otherwise how can explain this:In the Siege of Jerusalem (614), after 21 days of relentless siege warfare, Jerusalem was captured. The Byzantine chronicles relate that the Sassanid army and the Jews slaughtered tens of thousands of Christians in the city,
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso according the arab historian al muqadasi,the khazars converted to isalm after the colapse of their empier.he also said that almsot all the popplation under khazarian control was mulsim.
acording to al bachri,the samlles grupe in the khazarian poppulatio were the jews.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan stop lying! I have the book here. AL MUQADASI CORRESPONDANCE was about the mass conversion of KHAZAR TO JUDAISM and not to ISLAM
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso realy?you have The Best Divisions for Knowledge of the Regions in your possesion or can you give me alink to read it online?
any how,he said that becouse the khazarians were familiar to the jewish faith,they were easly converted to islam ithout much truble after the colapse of their empier.
the ones that didnt conver went to sapin and also to keiv ,were later they would meet the ashkenazim in the 13 century.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Oh My god ! you re just full of SHIT!!!! El Muqadasi is an arabic CHRONICLE and history writer!!!! He visited Khazaria at the time of the Abbaside in the 8th century. NO KHAZAR CONVERTED TO ISLAM but all of then converted to JUDAISM and were expled to GERMANY AND POLAND (some to SPAIN)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso here is a nice book in english in google book that you should read.he tels how the ashkenazi community was born.
*rashi* by maurice liber.
enjoy!
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan big deal! he started the history of his source from 1360
Apparently GOD ALMIGHTY couldnt make the Sanhedrin going on the straight path.
So I dont expect you to to do so!!!! followers of the F*** Talmud where pedophily is allowed.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso your claim is if the jewish sanhedrin in jerusale sentenced teshu to crucifiction is totaly baseless.
not onlt that already in the pireod of herod the sanhedrin lost his power for the time,but when any death punishment that the sanhedrin had decred were biblical,like stoning for example.crucifiction is ahelenist-roman invantion,and therefor the realty is that the romans excuted yeshu for their own reasons,he probably tries to encourage the jews to rebel aganist them.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.” (Matthew 27:24–25)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso here it is:
the world of the khazars ,page 148:
al muqadassi:they converted to isalm since they had earlier been jews.
al bakri:in general,the khazars are mulsims and christians.among them there are idolators.the smallest of the grups among them is the jews.
you claims about the ashkenazi and sepharadi jews to be khazars are contradicted by dna exams,recorded history,including non jewish history,and logic.
the case is close.i have prove all of your cliams to be wrong!
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan yesterday you wrote:''The Best Divisions for Knowledge of the Regions in your possesion or can you give me alink to read it online?'' and TODAY U RE TELLING ME THATU GOT THE BOOK!!!!Lies,! Al Muqadasi book is called correspondances and has barely 100 pages. DNA research and if we follow the Yiddish geneticians,´who say that THEY ARE THE BEST DNA on earth!! from the azkeNAZI everything jewish is the BEST!!! nobody s take you seriously anymore!!!
YOU CAN LIE EVEN ON 1+ 1 = 2
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan LIES!!!! there s no such thing of :the world of the khazars ,page 148:
al muqadassi
AL MUAQADASSI HAD WRITTEN A CORRESPONDANCE WICH SOME CHAPTER (50pages) DEAL WITH THE KHAZAR LAND!!
Lies are the only word coming out of JEWISH MINDNESS TO JUSTIFY THEIR UTOPIA
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso realy?
if you have the bals to face the truth,go to google books,and search for the world of the khazars:new perspective.open in page 148 and see for your self.
i alreasy gave you spicific location of books,all readable on google books,that on which im basing my opinion.
you are still owe me an appologie for the lies you said about herzel!
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan U ARE CRAZY the WHOLE CHAPTER on PAGE 148 IS TITLES : THE CONVERSION OF THE KHAZARS TO JUDAISM
I m starting to doubt about your englidh skill!!!
YOU ARE NUTS!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Samosdelka is located 60 kilometers southwest of Astrakhan
Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital
Long-lost capital of Khazar kingdom unearthed in southern Russia; finding said to be of immense importance AFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital
Long-lost capital of Khazar kingdom unearthed in southern Russia; finding said to be of immense importance AFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24
The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso great.i already told you that jews have beeing living near the black sea and caspian sea ever since the assirian and babilonian exile time.
i heard that they found hebrew inscripters from around 2000 years ago near crimera.excelent,but it means nothing to the ashkenazim.the khazar empier,controled on an area that had jews living in for centuries.
odokokan 1 year ago
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@odokokan It s not what they say in the article:''The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries'' THIS ID FROM THE 10 UNIVERSITY RESEARCH WHO RECONIZE THAT THE KHAZAR MASS CONVERTED TO JUDAISM
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
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Jews are Victims of their own demises TALMUD: .Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
In arabic the term JEW DOES NOT EXIST but rather YAHUD (from Yahuda)
The french used JUDEEN et ISRAELITE before the 19th century
the Germans used and still using the word JUDE
The british used the word JUDEAN AND ISRAELITE
The word jew appeared about a century ago
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso the word yehudi means in hebrew jew.its all the time means israeli.we jews often used israel in regard to jews.becouse being jewish means to be a part of a nation.just like there is a japanses comunity in brazil,they are stile japanese.the same was for jews all over the world.jews from tuinisia in the 8 century for exanple meeting a jew from germany or from persia was nothing else beside meeting his own flesh and bood brother.all jews are brothers.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokanAFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24 Russian archaeologists said Wednesday that they had found the long-lost capital of the Khazar kingdom in southern Russia, a breakthrough for research on the ancient Jewish stateThe city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
If the azkeNAZIs were from the old Israelite tribes, they would 1st of all never been in Russi and Poland, but stayed in the mediteranean area only!!!! THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK YIDDISH (Slavic-Germanic language)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso and why not???jews were expled from judea mainly to west europe.with the growing christian prosecution against jews in he 11-16 century,most of bthem were expeled from france,some toens of germany and italy but were accepted in the polish kingdome,that wished to furnish its economy,just like the otomans would do in he 16 entury when they accepted jews exled from spain and portugal.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan it makes no sense WE HAVE RECORD OF MONEY PRODUCTION FROM THE 8TH CENTURY IN KAZHARIA OF JEWISH MONEY!!!! coin with Yiddish (using hebrew letters) on them!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan Makes non sens, they got expeled by christians AND THEY GO TO CHRISTIAN EUROPE!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso its a fact.
poland accepted chrsitianty only in the 10 century and didnt had a policy of *one country,one religon* like in france for example.the polish kings,just like charleman in the 8 century,wanted to attract jews to their domains,and were glad to accept the jewish refugges from the destroied communities in germany and france.
poland simply didnt had that helenist-roman historic background of hostilty towards the jews like in west europe.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan You told me they fleed form France first!!!
Listen Archeology proof are here, and it says that azkeNAZIs are from Khazaria who converted in the 9th century PERIOD!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan At the time of Charlemagne (Karl der gross ) Germany didnt even exist. he set up ACHEN (Aix La Chapelle) AND FRANKFURT (fort of the Franc ) ...stop your BULLSHIT will you !
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso thats true,at his time germany and france were the same country,
but the area east to the rain river was called germany since the riman time,and in the talmud germany is called ashkenaz.before his time there were some jews in germany itself(klen),but only by charleman invitation,big jewish comminties from italy moved to worms,speyer ,magnes and trier and established the ashkenazi community.
no connection to the khazars.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan So you want me to DISREGARD THE ARCHEOLOGICAL PROOF (Khazaria dot com has coin of the 8th century from Khazaria and it s dated using C14 atomic ) AND I SHOULD BELIEVE YOUR BULLSHIT without any REFERENCE BOOK OR ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY?
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan WE RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH RUSSIA which the KHAZAR ORIGINATED FROM and in the 9th century got expeled from it and THEY MAKE AN EXODUS TO WESTERN EUROPE AND NORTH RUSSIA (Samosdelka is located 60 kilometers southwest of Astrakhan)which explains the SLAVIC ORIGIN of the YIDDISH language-
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso another thing about the yidish,is that while the majorety of the jews in west europe were expeld to the east until the 14 century(excluding the sepharadim)and they added many word in slavic to their yidish,some jewish coomuties in germany werent exiled,and they kept their yidish without any slavic words,like in frankfurt and prague.
and this is why up until today when two yidish sepaker meet they ofetn dont understand some word of the other,like my two grandmothers.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan illogic! they should have vocabulary of all the places they were at, as latin or french BUT NONE NADA!!! only SLAVIC and some middle age german !!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
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@odokokan AFP Published: 09.05.08, 07:24 Samosdelka is located 60 kilometers southwest of Astrakhan The city was the capital of the Khazars, semi-nomadic Turkic peoples who adopted Judaism as a state religion, from between the eighth and the 10th centuries, when it was captured and sacked by the rulers of ancient Russia.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The Mezrahi Jews in North Africa and the Middle east speak Hebrew and Arabic nothing else! they are mostly descendant of old Berbere abd arab tribe in the Maghreb, or mostly arab tribes (AbdAllah Ibn Sabaa as example;Rabbi of Medina was from an old arab tribe).
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso all jews,including ashkenazi,used hebrew in prayer and in writing,while in daily use hey use the local language,mininly arabicin the middel east.
ashkenazi and sepharadi communities were living togheter in israel already in the 13 century,to each other they spoke in hebrew!
odokokan 1 year ago
The CHRIST peace be upon him and his virgin Mother, was comdamned and sentenced by the Sanhedrin (Israel and Judean Kingdom), which were ISRAELITES and not jews (term jew appeared in the 19th century). As the Sanhedrin CONDAMNED AND SENTENCED TO DEATH John The baptist and his father the prophet Zachary.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso realy?the term jew apper in the bible and in the talmud and mishna,in the writings of juspus plavius,takitus,dio casio,el msudi,al muqdasi and many many more.cliaming that the term jew was invented in the 19 century is bulishit.havent you heard about martin luters book about the jews,before the 19 century?
and the sanhedrin didnt had any autority ro sentence anyone to death during the aleged crusifiction of the aleged jew called yeshu.only the roman governor had it.
odokokan 1 year ago
1-HOW ON EARTH CAN YIDDISH HAVE SLAVIC VOCABULARY IN IT
2-ROMAN NEVER TOOK THE JEWS TO ROMA (Persian-Jewish Massacre of Christian in 400) meaning that Jews never left !
3-BYZANTIN expelled them and the Pesrsian arund 400
4- Calif Omar brought them back in Jerusalem in 650
5- Most of them accetped ISLAM (Shlomo Sand)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso calif omar alowed 70 jewish familes from tiberia to re-settle in jerusalem.there is no evidence of mass conversion of jews in israel to isalm.
the book*the history of palestine 638-1099*by moshe gill,explorer thousend of letters between jews in israel to jews in other communities,especilay in egypt and babel,but aslo france,spain,italy and germany.there is no record about mass conversion to isalm,nor anything about the khazars.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan I didnt say that ALL the real israelite tribes converted as MASS CONVERSION, I said that a lot of them turned to Islam and christianity thru the centuries, because of those 2 religions dominations. A lot of jewish in the arabic peninsula became Muslims in the first 10 years of Islam when the QIBBLA was towards Jerusalem.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Palestinians are the Biblical Israelites!?
watch?v=PW6HpPKK8Mw&feature=related
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso realy??
then how come the biggest arab clan in israel is al masri(from egypt)?how come the bigest clans in nablus,the tokan,nomris,and jarar are from syria?how come yaser arafts family,are from syria?how come most of the arabs in safed are decended of the algerian abed el kader(1860)?how come all of the arabs from yaffo and its suronding towns are egyptians?the same for the arabs in haifa,acre,and beisan and near jerusalem towsn as well!
jews have never stoped living in israel!
odokokan 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso i dare you to find me a single year in the last 2000 years without any sigificant jewish residency in israel!
there sint such a year.despite the 1800 years of racsit forgein occupation over israel,the jews never stopped living there.and they never stoped hopping to revive their old nation(zionisam).
you are full of self contradictions.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan see ! I never said that the jewish left Israel, YOU DID
the EXODUS never happened . they always been there among muslims
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
Sepharad Jews never fought agaisnt arabs, because they have Semite psychological features. They share and didnt want conflict against '' cousins'' arabs, as proof the azkeNAZI jews RIGHT NOW IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE want to separate school children into azkeNAZI and others. IT IS NOT A SEMITIC MIND TO SECREGATE PEOPLE !!!! IT IS A OLD RUSSIAN GHETORISATION !
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso yes they did,and they sufored alot from the arabs under the arab occupation,just like the ashkenazim.
though i object any separteion separetion between ashkenazim and sapharadim,separetion between the two grupes was apart of the norm during the otoman occupation period.
any how,the case in emanuel right now,is sone by haredim non-zionist ultra ortodox grupe.so your claims again are baseless.
odokokan 1 year ago
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@odokokan Your problems is that you people vicitimize yourself to the extent that nobody s believe you anymore! Musa Ibn-Nosair, the Governor of Africa, brought a second army into Spain and conquered other cities, he also delivered them into the custody of the Jews." (History of the Jews, Professor Graetz, Vol. III, p. 109; The Iron Curtain Over America, John Beaty, pp. 194-195)
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan GIVE ME A BOOK EXPLAINING THAT THE JEWS SUFFERED UNDER ARABS OCCUAPTION
Apparently the JEWS SUFFERED UNDER, ROMAN, RUSSIAN, SPANISH, ENGLISH,. FRENCH, GERMAN ...the WHOLE GOYIM WORLD
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso books thats talk about the oppresion of the jews in israel under the mulsim occuopation:
when heaven touch earth by david rossuf
a view of jerusalem by james fin
the dhimi by bat yehor
the history of palestine the last 2000 years by jacob de hass
the history of palestine 638-1099 by moshe gil
also the churches of the crusaders kingdom of jerusalm by danile pringle.
the jews of arab lands by norman a.stillman
jewish identity and soceity in the 17 century by mina rozen
odokokan 1 year ago
Khazar and Ashkenazim Jews
watch?v=5AIKQHO0esk
Ashkenazi Jews are Turkic Khazars.
watch?v=xvjTayq3Tuk&feature=related
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The New yorker Mgazine had in 2005 an article written by a jewish scientist saying that azkeNAZIs brain is bigger than Goyim brain and also jewish are better lover.
UTAH university Professor wrote an article saying that azkeNAZI DNA is better than goyim DNA.
STOP YOUR F**** YIDDISH BS!!! the only racist are the F*** khazar who invent legend, history, science to justify their lies!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The DNA story started in 2000 when the IDF wanted to manufacture some BIO weapon, and they found that the Jewish DNA is too close to the Palestinian DNA. they dropped the project. in 2001 til 2005 some research proved that the Y Chromosome of all the AzkeNAZI, Sephard, Middle easten, Mediteranean (Greek, Italian ) WHERE IDENTIC BECAUSE CAUCASIAN !!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso wrong!the study was in london!the study in 2000 compared ashkenazim,sapharadim,*palestinains*,and NORTH WELSH WHITE MALES!
the result show that the ashkenazim were complitely identical to the sapharadim,and both were closer to the arabs,and all were distinguish from the welsh,and only a portion of the ashkenazim were a more closer to the welsh then the arabs and the sapharadim.
face it!
every study will show you that ashkenazim and sapharadim are same!
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Arthur Koestler wrote that Sepharad (meaning Spanish in Hebrew) are of AzkeNAZI origin. Also that all the Mediteranean and Caucasian ethnic have the same Y chromsome : South European (Italian, Greek, Slavic and Khazar) with semitic arabes....big deal!!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
YIDDISH speaking is SLAVIC 80% and old GERMAN 20%
HOW COME? if those people came from ROMA they should have ROMAN trace in their language and they have NONE NADA!!!!
The DNA BS you post are known to be FORGED by SO CALLED JEWISH genitician
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso no,yidish have many words in hebrew and aramit as well.one of the main problem for jews in poland and rusia was that they hardly ever spoke the local language.only the merchent spoke many language while the rest of the people spoke in yidish,laaz(french jewish,ladino(spanish jewish).
most of the jews in judea in the first century knew greec,and thats how they communicat with the romans.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan well, the big part of Yiddish is SLAVIC,....try to imagine and compose an white wash explanation like the azkeNAZI are used to produce to the Goyim
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso are you still there?
if there was any truth in your theory that the asheknazi jews are actualy the khzars from south-west russia,the DNA exams should have shown no conection betwin the askenazim to the sapharadim!
but instead the dna exame show that the the two grupes are the same,and they all originat from the middle east!
infact,it show that jews are one of the most homugunis nation in the world,despite 2500 years of separtion between parts of the nation that were exiled.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan 1st Explain me how YIDDISH has SLAVIC words in it ? also the SEPHARAD are AzkeNAZI who migrate to Spain (Arthur Koestler), The jews among th arabs were called MEZRAHI as beni nadir and beni qir wou qar....they were arab convert to Judaism, as now there s JEWISH YEMENI who are arab convert
So pleas stop your Mythology
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso whas the conection?if you knew yidish you would have known that its a salad of many language.
the sapharadim are ashkenazim??no.jews are reported to live in spain since the time of solomon,and trough the helenist and roman period,especilay after the exple of jews from alexandria in 400.the were all a part of post roman-german kingdoms jews,only afer the arab invasion to spain,while france and germany and taly remain christians,the separetion started.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Do me a favor read the ENCYCLOPEDIA called THE HISTORY OF THE JEWS (Pr Greatz), The Arabs never brougth any JEWS TO ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD!!! The SEPAHRADS were living theres. WHY MUSLIMS WOULD BRING JEWS IN SPAIN? and not in North Africa , not in Turkey??? WHY? or at least GIVE ME STRONG SOURCE AS PROFESSOR ARTICLES and stop your YIDDISH BSHIT
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso ok:
read on google books:
dna&tradition by yakov kleiman(2004)
tracing your jewish dna by anne hart
.she wrote several other boks about that.
the jesus gene by patrick byrne
for a start.
odokokan 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso another book is:
ethnic sephardic jews in the medical literature by shelomo elfasa.
another books are:
the history of palestine 638-1099 by moshe gil
the history of palestine the last 2000 years by jaob de hass.
i base my oppinon on facts:
the jewish community of the east europe is orginat from italian,gernan french jews that originated from judea.a portion of them are jews that lived around the black sea and fled to poland during the mongol invasion in the 13 century.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan Listen! you can not pretend something and its opposite! YOU TOLD ME 1ST THAT THE JEWS LEFT PALESTINE (EXODUS) and IN THE OTHER HAND THEY NEVER LEFT PALESTINE!
The azkeNAZIs are from the old tribe BUT THEY SPEAK YIDDISH WHICH IS SALVIC LANGUAGE!!! IT MAKES NON SENS!°!!!!!
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso no!i said that SOME jews were exiled,while significant jewish presence in israel never stopped,thanks for geneorus donation from those jews over seas,especilay the ashkenazim,so the the poor jews of israel couldpay their muslim occupier the jaziya tax,which was fixes and regardless of actual earnings like the muslim paid.
odokokan 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso its you that contrdict youself.
from one hand you say that the jews are the kiilers of chrits,but then on the other you cliam that theyare decendet from the khazars,and not realted to the jews from judea,that alegdly killed christ. its a contradiction!
how can you claim that the ashkenazim are khazars when in realty when the khazar empier alegdly colaps in 960,there was already a thriving ashkenazi community in germany and france?this make no sense.
odokokan 1 year ago
IDF Released Fake Videos of Gaza Flotilla Attack to Falsely Accuse the Peace Activists
watch?v=DxldKGBZX08
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
The Major difference between you and I, is I bring official JEWISH historian (Prof Arthur Koestler,Prof Alfred Lilenthal, Prof Israel Shahack, Prof Israel Shamir, Prof Shlomo Sand, Prof Shlomo Belamy, Benjamin Freedman, Alfred Rosenthal,Prof Dunlap, Prof Graetz, Prof Dubnow) WHO AT THE UNANIMITY wrote about the KHAZAR-mongoloid origin of the Jews,
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@alfredomafioso you can clean your ass with those profesors.
i know that pro moshe gil,the writer of *the history of palestine 638-1099* cliam that the all story about the khazars ever converted to judesam is a jewish-arab legend.mr gil is an expert that explorer thousends of leters that were sent by the jews of in israel to other communities during the arab occupation over israel that parallel to the so caled khazar empier time(638-1099),he said that there isnt even one word about it.
odokokan 1 year ago
WHY THE azkeNAZI have a language (YIDDISH) that is of SLAVIC AND GERMAN words. The logic should say that they would have either a western europeean language (roman or french) BUT NO!!! they speak their native language, which is SLAVIC from South Russia,
BTW Ivan the horrible never existed, Ivan the Terrible. And Jews never left Russia
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
another thing alfredfuck,show me aprof that herzel ever encourage wolrd wars.
i have his genius book*the state of the jews* on my lap,and i also read many of his personal diery.in no where did he said somehing like that.
herzel wrote his book without even knowing about seculer-zionisam that developed in east europe,like pinskers book*autoamancptia*,book he defemtly knew about oldr relgous-zionisam,such as kalisher and bibas.the all idea of zionisam is very old.simply freesom from occupation.
odokokan 1 year ago
@odokokan dont use the F word with me. It s not becauce your mythology is collapsing that you have to force it upon the Goyim. Learn about the Zionist congress of 1897 in Baale.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
@odokokan try to use a better english, I cant understand a damn word
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
1864: Lionel Rothschild and Rabbi Hirsch ''reformed(deformed)'' Judaism (changing conditions of Zion, no need to wait for the MACHIAH H )
1870:They commisioned Mooses Hess to write ROMA AND JERUSALEM (Zionism)
1890: Lionel Rothschild visit Palestine and start financing azkeNAZIs settlers.
1897: Theodor Hezl talk about the need to launch 3 World Wars where all the big powers will destroy each other, then the World order having Jerusalem as capital.
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
More I read your arguments -which is reccurant in all the Yiddish Mythology- I see like usual that everything is about Legend that are made into history. The Arabs didnt bring any jews to Spain. Why would they do that? they found them there )Sepharad). The romans didnt take any Jews to Russia (Biggest concentration of Jews in history and in the World) HOW COME?
alfredomafioso 1 year ago
According to the Zionst brainwashing mythology, the Jews or