European Solar Powered Stirling 10 Kilowatt Generator

[habibullah80]

Can i found its complete measurements/specifications and the way of instaling

i will be waiting your reply

[fastlane59]

how many houses can be supply with one of those?

[peterlama1]

Hi hi! Have you considered the intellitus cash system (search on google)? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my father made a ton of money with it.

[ufoengines]

Well I'm sold. Let's make millions of them, and install them through out the U.S. West.

[kyle92223]

Too efficient to be exploited? Baloney!

[maxhax2000]

one 3kw dish generator cost 20,000 bux, this one cost 60,000 bux. and rated for 25 years befor it needs to be replaced.... this gona take a long time to get back the money u just waisted in this. solar cells actualy produce more power with less space. i dont see how this is that great?

[rstevewarmorycom]

@maxhax2000 Stirling dishes need NOT be costly. You can fab a parabolic

dish to reflect 90% using aluminum foil! And focus need not be perfect, a spherical

form will work because the target is good sized. The Stirling engine itself is nearly

trivial to build for any machinist, and needs only modest maintenance. The tracker

can be a solar cell running a dog that stops a hanging weight geared advance. The

frame is the most expensive item!! But it's like the guy said above, it's not exploitable!

[maxhax2000]

@rstevewarmorycom why not just use wind turbine, they seem to be the most efficient, and the most efficient use of land as well check this new hybrid design. plus wind is all day, and night! lol Fail. hehe but check these link /watch?v=Y7Qs2gFlt-o&feature=r­elated

[rstevewarmorycom]

@maxhax2000 Even nicer, both together, best use of land, best collection of

energy per acre. Wind is not constant, and often sunlight occurs when the

wind is quiet. PV is fine, too, but it is a little high tech for many places in the

world that don't yet have a silicon foundry or other access to what now will

be a limited resource as everyone will want PV's as oil crashes! It may take

a century for our PV fab to catch up with demand. So we must exploit thermal concentrator technologies.

[piespokladowy]

*****

[MrDasmaster]

this is ok for a idea but it doesnt produce as much power as a few solar panels stirling engines produce to little power and torque better to heat up water using the sun and use a steam turbine if you want electricity!

[beowulf500ad]

@MrDasmaster actually Stirling engines are produce as much power as a standard combustion engine...the only difference is where you spend your money. Stirling engines cost more to build and combustion engines cost more to run. The main benefit with the Stirling engine is that is can run on any heat source. The Swedish Gotland-class submarines use them over diesel engines.

[TheeAthis]

@beowulf500ad I don't understand how you can say they cost more to build. From a manufacturing standpoint, it has 80% less moving parts that a Petro fuel based engine.

[beowulf500ad]

@TheeAthis I'm just telling you what I read..."Compared to an internal combustion engine of the same power rating, Stirling engines currently have a higher capital cost and are usually larger and heavier."

[TheeAthis]

@beowulf500ad Thanks for the reply. I'll have to look into the costs. This is something I've been wanting to make for a while now.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@beowulf500ad Sure, except that they consume NO FUEL!

The offsets from that cost savings are ENORMOUS!

[beowulf500ad]

@rstevewarmorycom They do consume fuel (heat). You have to produce that heat somehow or it won't work. Some stirling engines are powered by natural gas or like this one which uses mirrors to focus sunlight. It's sorta like solar panels. They only require sunlight but are real expensive.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@beowulf500ad Of course they need a source of heat! But they are like photovoltaics in

that they need little other maintenance after manufacture, and they amortize their cost

in but a tiny fraction of their functional life. Like solar PV's which are paid for in a few years

but continue to provide energy for 30 or 40 years, solar powered Stirling engines have a

similar cost/benefit profile.

[bluephantm]

@rstevewarmorycom How many of these stirling engines have you bought and amortized personally? All this is theoretical. Nobody has had an engine in production long enough to prove payback. And maintenance may be low, but regenerators do suffer from heat cycle degradation, helium leaks, oil needs to be changed, dishes need to be washed. Large solar is generally grid connected, so in the USA you can get about 5 cents per kWH. How much maintenance can you do for a nickel?

[rstevewarmorycom]

@bluephantm I'm a physicist who has studied Stirling engines and

their efficiencies. I've read all the papers on them and reviewed the

data. While they don't quite make it to the conversion efficiency of

photovoltaics, they make up for that in needing less infrastructure

for their manufacture, and once a design is settled upon from some

relatively easy experimentation and proof of concept, they can be

cloned by the most meager machine shops found in every town.

[bluephantm]

@rstevewarmorycom That is nice you studied them. I am an engineer who worked for a Stirling engine company for 16 years. In practice they are a bit harder to build when you are in the 10 kW and up range.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@bluephantm Then let's fab smaller ones, if the scale is a problem

for you, then we can gang them at a diffuse focus. Come on, I've

seen the reports from the field, they work great.

[dillmon1]

@rstevewarmorycom They are twice as efficient as the average photovoltaics!

[rstevewarmorycom]

@dillmon1 Where did you read that???

[rstevewarmorycom]

@bluephantm In addition, the dish is quite easily fabbed from

reflective foil and plywood. For simple tracking a cheap equatorial

mount suffices, and simple hanging weight driver can be

turned on and off by a simple clock work and a small DC motor

to operate a start/stop escapement. The DC motor is powered

by a small 3" solar cell, and the power output is 20% of the local

insolation (sunshine). I built one that used steam, but Stirling is

better and more efficient.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@bluephantm Biggest problem you see, is that as oil peaks and

the solar conversion can't keep up with demand, this can, until

solar can catch up. That may take 50 years. They can start with

Stirling dishes next week, and they don't have to cost 30,000 GBP

either. Building the engine to last a few years only costs a few hundred,

and the dish about the same. This is 3rd world technology that works,

guys!

[maxhax2000]

@TheeAthis yea but when was last time u seen combustion engine with all kinda high quaity epensive parts, even thoo it dont move much, it has computer system which lines it up with sun all day, the mirrors, the heat capture device, the actualy power generator eletric motor part, ect... and i can keep going, plus look at it. that unit looks like it weighs allot more then like a generator from home depot that would produce allot more power all day and night, ohh yea and during rain/clouds.

[wendygroth]

when will people in power open their eyes things like this can save our economy

[MrDasmaster]

@wendygroth not much can save the american enconomy .... to many jesus freaks over there running the show!

[TheeAthis]

@MrDasmaster Come on man....what the heck does that have to do with anything??? Instead of bashing Christ, who died even for you that do not believe,....Why don't you bash the greedy politicians that have run this country into the ground with simple human greed?

[wendygroth]

wow grab 4 of these and you're golden

[Hetman1974]

Who makes this. Is it for sale? I have an isolated house in the Australian Outback, and a lot of sunshine, and a long way from a fuel station!!

[MrJoeives]

where can I get one of these?

cheers

[beattherapydotcom]

Cool video- I just wish he could pronounce auxillary...

[LostInMadness220]

Anything small just to power my home?

[carysatch]

the stirling engine was not a commercial success because it's too efficient to be exploited, therefore it has no commercial value...no fuel to overcharge for, not enough maintenance required to employ more technicians, etc, etc,

[rock3tcat]

@carysatch

What you're saying is that the Stirling engine was killed because it was too perfect?

[carysatch]

@rock3tcat  - or just too efficient to be exploited -- seems anything that can't be perverted for greed doesn't get produced...

[VRJensen1]

@carysatch Yeah it cuts into the Energy Giants profits...so they tell the senators that they have on the payroll to pass legislation that regulates these out...ex not allowing people to sell electricity back to the grid....or super large safety clearances...I wish we didn't live in a Plutocracy.

[carysatch]

@VRJensen1 You are right ! "Plutocracy"!! haha! It's as if we are trained to use way more than we really need, and don't have the options available to do without!! I lived without electricity for over five years - partly out of anger, mostly out of nessessity...I got behind in a power bill and just never got it turned back on. It was more difficult to live "normally" but I did it. The main problem was heating water, all the other "needs" were easily overcome. The idea is absurd to most !!

[VRJensen1]

@carysatch That's awesome you lived without Electricity for 5 years. The Idea isn't that absurd to me. my wife and I lived without TV for 6 years and to some that's absurd. I hate being forced to do something, whether it's buy electricity from one company or be forced to put gas in my car so that I can go to work. It makes me feel like a cash cow in some fat mans corral

[carysatch]

@VRJensen1 oops! my reply posted up at the top... but to further my reply, some energy options have to make enormous amounts to be taken seriously...if everyone really conserved, it would be monumental!! WE (as a nation of consumers) are conned into thinking that a dollar a day is cheap...as if it really IS a dollar a day, and then we pay for everyones' wasted energy. There is timed metering available, a person can use only the off-peak power, heaven forbid we only use power at night !! ☺

[marhanen]

@rock3tcat

require large thermal differential that needs fans to cool the working fluid within which causes material to creep

dissipation of heat is complicated and requires larger radiators increasing price

low power output compared to size of machine

needs time to start up and does not change load very well

working fluid must be sealed within the cylinders while pistons pressurize the fluid loss of pressure and the entire thing stops.

[SVKmellow]

@rock3tcat think about it... why did they start to make vacums that use paper bags instead of cloth and why do they don't make metal ladles anymore but only plastic etc. if you make a product that will last forever you are bassically putting yourself out of bussiness. Also... why do all my black and white tvs still work while all the colored ones are long dead and replaced :) ?

[Pynaegan]

@SVKmellow Don't forget that this same mentality began with disposable razors. This story runs long and deep to the point you cannot speak of it in public! Not with out suffering a severe backlash.

[SVKmellow]

@Pynaegan Well.. I've gone from MACH3 to disposable razors to the old-timer 'one razor gadgets' and I'm thinking about going to normal straight razors (see the favorites on my channel ;). It was for the exact same reason. 1. the old-timer 'one razor gadgets' last like 3 times longer and give you a much smoother and less irritated shave while still saving you money (you get like 10 sets for 1 MACH3 or other brand). I admit that you do have to take a bit more care while using these but come on!

[TheeAthis]

@rock3tcat Exactly. Welcome to our wonderful world. :(

[martinzopetazo]

@carysatch I agree. Its an amazing pieze of tecnology killed by the greed of energy corps.

[maxhax2000]

@carysatch naaa lets think here for a second, a undependable power method that totaly depends on the sun, Thats what killed it im betting. looks like this big structure prolly takes a while to just recoup the money spent in making it, not to mention the low amount of power it produces. Imagine how many of these you would need to power somthing like a small town, you would prolly need anuther town of the same size composed of just these dish's to just power it. which isnt to efficient use of land

[maxhax2000]

Respond to this video... This giant overly expensive unit only makes power 1/2 the day and only produces 10000 watts a hour, you can get a genrator at home depot for like 500 bux, this thing prolly coust 50,000 bux. 10000 watts is not allot, prolly barly enuff to run your fridge/tv/heater, few light bulbs. so why spend so much on this when you can prolly just gas powered genrator for 20 years off 50,000 in gas lols. cool idea but not practical. wouldnt dout it if solar cell is better.

[freetubester]

Is this like the Tesla electric car? No-one you know can afford one. This is the same unattainable tech. we have been seeing for 20 years. Give me something I can buy or build that will cut my electric bill in half without taking out a mortgage.

[utkua]

looks noisy.

[vqdset]

watch?v=VEpq-WCTOrM

[LesPorter1]

I understand. Please Tell me about exxon nanosolar, since you bring it up. I have hear about printer solar cells, but no anything reliable. What are you referring to?

Focus systems have potential but nanosolar cheeaap would be good. (Can I use my printer? Kidding.)

thanks.

les

[LesPorter1]

How large (diameter)?; what is over-all cost as displayed? Without tracking, and night time tucking away structure, what is cost. Has this been tested in substantial wind? Cost of solo engine?

[razorx71]

quite expensive. None of these are cost effective really right now - they are powered by grants. $30,000-40,000USD 9000KWH a year.. with a retail price of 12 cents per KWH that's only $1080 a year gross. Minus operating cost, any interest, and wholesale rates are probably half that. So basically this dish will take upwards of 80 years to pay for itself. Cheap, printable nanosolar will dominate this field if Exxon ever releases it.

[freetubester]

@razorx71 Exxon and the gang of THEY are busy cornering the world market on water.

[roidroid]

very informative :)