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  • Being a NJ native, I loved watching the Rangers, Islanders and Devils beat the crap out of the Flyers. I especially liked watching Gillies, Nystrom and Fotiu wreck havoc on the Flyers. I also loved watching Devils captain Scott Stevens deck Eric Lindros from the Flyers

  • Typical Flyers MO -- soon as your guy starts getting pounded, everybody jumps in.

  • @scottdougherty i agree, and watched those games.

  • Was this scrap during the 1977-78 or 1978-79 season?

  • Fotiu with CLEAR WIN, he hammered down Holmgren in this good scrap.

  • This is when hockey was hockey. The NHL (No Hit League) is a joke, The reason for all these concussions is the equipment hrad like a rock and no red line. When we played w/o helmets we rarely ever got hurt There was a respect back then. Also with all these new rules its a joke Bring back the red line and let the players police themselves.

    Bettman is a joke and all these players are millionaires. If Avery was playing today we would have chopped him up

    GG #11

  • @goalscr12 the reasons for the concussions is alot more than just equipment...The players are so much bigger, stronger and faster not to mention for yrs you could clutch and grab guys, now a days you cant...watch games from this era and these guys look so slow compared to the players today. I totally agree with letting the players police themselves...insitgator rule may have been the worst rule ever.

  • one thing about Nick Fotiu, besides that he was a great fighter, he could also take a punch and wouldn't bother him....the best fighter ever!!!!!

  • Holmgren doesn't do to well with his helmet that he used to cut guys with. Notice how those Flyer thugs weren't so tough once they went to other teams. Jimsboy is correct, they were cheapshotting punks and cowards. I call them a pack of jackals.

  • @BostonGarden dave brown was mad tough when he was an oilers so was wilson when he was a hawk.

  • @tranquility 4all such a great player....clearly the reason the rangers neglected to protect him in the draft the next year and let him get away. and , oh yes, how many stanley cups did those rangers win in the seventies....?

  • @ewiley3 When did I say Fotiu was a good hockey player. I said he kicked Holmgren's ass in this fight & the Rangers defeated both the Flyers & Islanders in the 1979 Playoffs. Take a course in remedial reading !

  • Fotiu was a second rate goon who never amounted to anything just like the rangers would at this point in the NHL They couldn't beat the Flyers let alone the Islandsrs.

  • @ewiley3 Fotiu is a second rate goon ? He sure whipped Holmgren & many Flyer third rate goons. This fight occurred early in the 1978-79 season. That year the Rangers defeated the Flyers in the quarter finals in 5 games before defeating the Islanders in 6 games.

  • @tranquility4all Holmgren was an all star. Holmgren was the first American born player to score over 30 goals in a season. He was the 1st American player to score a hat trick in the cup finals. He also beat Fotiu in the rematch. Nick could barley skate. He was a bum.

  • @harwicke I'm a Ranger fan & I wish we could have had Holmgren on our team. Holmgren was a good Hockey Player & Fotiu wasn't. I can't recall Holmgren ever getting the better of Fotiu in a fight. If U know of a video which supports your claim please inform me about it. If U call Fotiu a bum then U should say the same thing about several Flyers such as Dave Brown, Glen Cochrane, Dave Richter Dave Hoyda etc.

  • @tranquility4all You can find it on youtube.  Holmgren vs Fotiu part 2 ... Nick was one of the worst hockey players ever to get ice time in the NHL.(He was a Flyer for a short time). Dave Brown was a much better player. Check out the 1987 finals were he was on the ice late in game #6. Richter played a regular shift as did Cochrane. Behn Wilson was an all star. Bridgeman played a regular shift, as did Schultz.

  • @harwicke RU Suggesting Holmgren thumped Fotiu in round 2 the way Fotiu hammered Holmgren in round 1 ? At best a draw 4 Holmgren. I never thought I would debate which goon was a better Hockey Player. Check the Stats: Fotiu 646 Games played 60 Goals 77 Assists, Playoffs 38 GP 0 goals 4 assists. Dave Brown 729 Games Played 45 Goals 52 assists, Playoffs 80 games 2 goals 3 assists. Both Players were worthless goons. I remember the 87 finals game 7 Brown's only shift led to Messier's tying goal.

  • @tranquility4all Brown wasn't worthless. He scared the living shit out of everyone in the league. That has value. If you don't understand that you don't understand how hockey USED to be played.

  • @harwicke I played organized Hockey for 10 yrs. & attended over 500 NHL Games. Fotiu played less games than Brown & had better stats. Fotiu played the same role as Brown. Both were goons. If U think Brown, Richter & Cochrane were valuable Hockey Players then U don't know Your Ass from your Elbow ! The team that score more goals wins NOT the team that wins more fights. These Goons may have played regular shifts But they were worthless hockey players.

  • @harwicke I played organized Hockey for 10 yrs. & attended over 500 NHL games. Fotiu played less games than Brown & outscored him. Brown Richter & Cochrane may have played regular shifts but they were worthless Hockey Players. If U think they were valuable players then U don't know your ass from your elbow. The team which scores the most goals wins the game NOT the team that wins the most fights.

  • @tranquility4all 500 ranger games..I feel your pain. That's a lot of shit hockey to sit and look at year after year. I bet you wish you had an entertaining team like the Flyers to follow. A team that is almost always at the top the the league. 70's and early 80's the Flyers were the top draw in the NHL. The Flyers never tanked seasons to try to get a high draft picks like a lot of other teams have. The Flyers and "their" goons are most famous team in hockey Thank God I'm not a Ranger fan

  • @harwicke The Rangers won the Stanley Cup in 1994 & the Flyers last won the Cup in 1975.

    35 Yrs & counting. That's a lot of Shit Hockey played by a load of Worthless Goons. The Flyers sure had to pull a lot of Shit out of the Sack when they positioned themselves to draft Lindros back in 1992. You're glad you're not a Rangers fan. You're not even a Hockey Fan because U don't understand the first rule of Hockey. U win the game by scoring the most goals not winning the most fights.

    Learn the Game.

  • @tranquility4all Flyers vs Rangers in the playoffs Flyers 6 Rangers 4. Flyers have beat your team 3 series in a row. Plus, they beat the rangers in 2010 final game show down. And look, the Flyers are at the top again! Haaa Skirts always blow.

  • @harwicke Yes you're up 6 4. The last time the Flyers won the Cup U probably weren't born or under 12 yrs. old & like today U don't understand the sport. Skirts Blow & You're filled with Hot Air ! Your team is going 2 fail like they have for the last 35 Yrs.

    Get a Goalie or You'll be out in the first round. Bet U wish U had Lundqvist instead of what ever piece of Swiss Cheese U have in goal.

  • @tranquility4all Ok lets compare..Since the Flyers came into the NHL (1967 -8).. Rangers - 9 trips to the semi finals 3 trips to the finals.. Flyers - 16 trips to the semi finals 8 trips to the finals..Also owners of a 35 game unbeaten streak, and a victory over the Soviet Red Army in a game that was bigger than the cup. Plus they are currently #1 in the league..Thank God I'm a Flyers fan!

  • @harwicke You're living in the distant past. 35 Yrs. & counting. U probably didn't know the Flyers won the Cup until Your parents told U about it. If U believe an Exhibition game against the Soviets is more significant than winning the Stanley Cup then U really don't understand the Sport. Then again what can I expect from someone who thinks worthless goons like Brown, D. Richter & Cochrane R valuable Hockey Players. Enjoy the Regular season. When the Playoffs roll around, U will be CRUSHED !

  • @tranquility4all OK,  Enjoy Sean Avery!

  • @harwicke Have fun with Carcillo & whatever slice of Swiss Cheese U have playing Goalie !

  • @harwicke BTW, U would love having Avery on your team !

  • @tranquility4all Avery is an over paid clown. (So is Drury) I really wouldn't want him wearing the orange and black.  Enjoy the spring watching the Flyers advance!

  • @harwicke If Carcillo contract pays him $ 1 he is overpaid. All Your Goalies are worthless. You will be crying another sad song when Your team gets dumped in the playoffs as they have for the last 35 Years !

    U need 2 learn the first principle about being a sports fan. Until Your team wins a championship U need 2 Keep Your Mouth Shut. 35 years is a long time. Be PATIENT. Maybe the Flyers will win the Cup in Your lifetime.

  • @harwicke U bet I wish I was a flyers fan. Y would I want 2 B a fan of a team which was an Insult to the sport.

    Yes they had some great players. However they disgraced the sport by employing more worthless goons who couldn't shoot the puck in the ocean if they were standing on a pier. The 500 games I attended included games played by some of the greatest Hockey Players whose skills U wouldn't appreciate because U believe Hockey is nothing more than than a skating exhibition between fights.

  • @harwicke Richter 365 GP 9 G 40 A, Playoffs 22 GP 1 G 0 A. Glen Cochrane 411 GP 17 G 72 A, Playoffs 18 GP 1 G 1 A. Both were worthless goons as evidenced by their career stats.

    I never said anything about Wilson, Bridgeman or Shultz. Shultz actually played some good hockey. I believe he recorded a 20 goal season.

    Your assertion that Brown was a much better player than Fotiu is ludicrous because both players were worthless & were only employed in the NHL because they could fight.

  • @tranquility4all How many goals did Schultz have in his other seasons? Everyone likes to mention his one anomaly season of 20 goals. His other "big seasons" were 13, 11 and 10 goals. He didn't reach double figures in goals any other season. He was a dirty player.

  • @BostonGarden I'm not saying Schultz was a good player. I said he played some good hockey. Compared 2 other Flyer goons such as Dave Brown, Glen Cochrane & Dave Richter, Schultz was a reasonably good player. Yes he was a dirty player & stayed in the NHL because he could fight

  • @tranquility4all Richter and Cochrane were both defensemen.  They both played regular shifts. You can't say that about nicky pie face.

  • @dudeski78 Hmm, no they jumped in when Fotie didn't stop hammering his face in after Holmgren was done. Typical idiotic YouTube post. Good win by Fotiu, took some good shots and came back stronger.

  • Have never been a Flyers fan, but no argument they were always a "team" that had each other's back at all times. Love them or hate them, that has to be respected

  • @dudeski78 Flyers always were that way, ALWAYS. Cowards.

  • @dd9s Not cowards. It's called backing your team mates up. This is why the Flyers were always one of the top teams in the NHL. They cared about each other.

  • @harwicke The Broad Street Bullies never fought a fair fight in that era. Clearly Fotiu got the best of Holmgren. The Flyers on the ice knew it and wanted to even the score by jumping Fotiu......GOONS!

  • @southpore1 Bull shit. You are clueless. The Rangers were pussy's.

  • @harwicke Don't be hater! Goons never win in the end. Stick with the Phillies (not goons)

    Nice channel.....pedaphile

  • @southpore1 Flyers are gonna win the cup this year.

  • @harwicke I hope they don't have to fight their way to the cup, because the Flyers are not too good at that.

  • @southpore1 It's a different game now. The days of the bullies and all the fighting are long, long gone, and they are never coming back.

  • @harwicke I realize that big guy, that's why the Flyers will NEVER win a stanley cup again. Last year was a fluke that they made it that far....

  • @harwicke The Flyers are a solid team. However, I'm not sure if they have the Goaltending to win the Cup.

  • I love people that talk smack on Youtube. Its a web-page. Get over yourselves you idiots.

  • kicked another punk ass flyers asss

  • beat that ass nicky!

  • flyers always jumped in when their bitch was getting beat!

  • Barry Dean another goon Flyer

  • @BostonGarden wha?? Barry Dean had about 3 career fights. The guy never did anything.

  • its too bad Nickie wasn't doing the beatdown to that bitch Shultz

  • Shultz and Fotiu never fought. Shultz would never fight Fotiu according to his own testimony in his autobiography "The Hammer" Confessions of a hockey enforcer. Shultz respected Fotiu's size and the fact that Nicky was a golden gloves champion before turning pro hockey. Don't take my word for it, read the book.

  • @rwydhbesr11 Holmgren a winner??

    I have to call EDGE Fotiu who overpowered Holmgren to the ice.

    Short but spirited fight.

    Both had own moments as i understand a draw well but no way edge/narrow win P.Holmgren!

  • i think holmgren run...by points...his jaw hit fotius fist so much

  • i have to give it to holgrem though,,he did take alot of beatings for his team.

  • Lets all argue on the internet !!!

  • well ur shitty team should prevented the flyers from jumping in... ranger pussies!

  • shut up philly losers.  Fotiu kicked Holmgren's ass.

  • More pathetic ranger fans making excuses for thier loser teams.Its called backing each other up,and why the flyers won two cups and your shit teams never won anything,cant stand the pussy rangers ,the big whistle, shoot the puck Barry and listening to thier crap fans crying all the time.

  • jumping in is backing each other up??aqre u retarded?

  • backing up??no fool!its called jumping in.

  • flyers jumping in again!!..what the hell!!it has to be fear!

  • @rwydhbesr11

    Wow. You, my friend, are a genius. Heres a piece of advice: Not every hockey fight in history is archived on YouTube.

    Do your homework, they fought AT LEAST 4 times at the NHL level. I own the VHS tapes of hundreds of old Flyers fights and I've seen a few of their minor league fights as well, and I can promise you that Holmgren got the better of Nick more than once. I never said Homer was a better enforcer than Fotiu, but I did say he was a MUCH better player, Fotiu was a bum.

  • do u know if fotiu ever fuaght schultz?and if he did,,where can i see it?

  • u won't know him he got injured in minor hockey and never made it to the pros

  • my dad play hockey with nick fotiu in canada in the minors for a while

  • Nick open a can of whoop ass! He could score a goal once in a blue moon too.

  • You see that?....back then when ever a flyer got a beatdown like cheap shot artist Holmgren did here, the rest of the flyer team had to jump in to save his ass.....HA-Ha....Go Nick...beat his worthless ass!

  • look at the flyers jumping in,,they dont want holgrem to get hurt,,,lol

  • Ranger win Flyer loss............are their any dog killers out there to sign?

  • @SuperThunderlips

    Perhaps we should just sign people dumb enough to SHOOT THEMSELVES IN NIGHT CLUBS? Still bitter after that beatdown the Birds put on your Giants I see.

    Homer is known as one of the toughest P4P guys in NHL history, and he got the better of Little Nicky on more than one occasion. Homer also put up 30 goals in a season, did Fotiu even crack 10?

  • @BROADST"IDIOT"

    First of all Plax was released AFTER he shot himself.

    The Eagles signed a guy who drowned, electricuted, etc.....defenseless dogs.

    Fotiu was brought in strictly as an enforcer to deal with flyers, islanders, who are a disgrace to the sport for making a mockery of it by having goons as a main stay.

    Oh yeah and ...."YANKEES WIN DAAAA YANKEES WIN"

  • Plax had it in him all along, he's you're typical "I think I'm a gangster" athlete, something the Eagles proudly lack. Vick is an idiot and made some mistakes, but the Eagles only signed him for trade value after the season, if we hadn't, someone else would have profited from it instead.

    So, because Holmgren fought twice as much as Fotiu, that makes him a goon, despite the fact that he scored 3 times as many goals?

    Congrats, the better team won, even though they BOUGHT THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

  • LOL.......Did the Phils pick up the option on Lee???????? HOW MUCH WAS THAT HYPOCRITE....and I heard they are going after Holiday........LOL.....good excuse, come up with another one buddy, that's an old one...and WEAK. LOSER

  • @SuperThunderlips

    Yea, they did, for 9 million. What did CC make? 15 million?

    Hypocrite? The Yankees had BY FAR the biggest payroll last year with more than 200 million dollars, nearly twice as much as the Phillies (who had the 8th highest payroll). We're talking about 9 players making more than 13 million dollars compared to the Phillies ONE player in Ryan Howard who made 15. You've had a ridiculous payroll for years and still have this much trouble winning? Pathetic to say the least.

  • "YANKEES WIN DAAAAAAAAA YANKEES WIN"

  • i'm a diehard ranger fan,,and cuoldnt stand holgrem or wilson,,but i do agree that they were better hockey players than fotiu.Fotiu was never really good..he just threw the dukes well.

  • Fotiu kicked his ass! Typical Flyer punks had to jump in just like in the days of Shultz LOL..

  • Easy win by Fotiu

  • Fotiu hands Holmgren's ass to him on a platter!

  • Caesar writes like he is from the ghetto. He is just trash and a real punk. Brave behind the computer but first one to run for cover in the real world.

  • bobee1969 did a '69' on jacejules and then sucked jmg4314. then, i bitched slapped bobeee1969's mom and threw her down the crack house stay's to her death.

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  • 1:29 watch that and get your brain looked at

  • Fotiu was cleary, cleanly beaten.

  • you forgot to finish your sentence. Should be "Fotiu was clearly, cleanly beaten the fucking shit out of Paul Holmgren"

  • thank you bud, i was wondering what caesarcerf was talking about.

  • You bet dtrrose. We try to correct the delusional ones on YT

  • you need some glasses retard

  • WTF are talking about lil bobee. Watch the fight again. I counted 9 consecutve right hands to the face of Holmgren to end the figh. The 9th was when he already fell to the ice. What did you see that a normal person didin't?

  • UHH I am very sorry Bobeee.  I owe you an apology so here it is. I thought you were replying to me...very sorry. You were actually replying to the Caesar character.

  • Fotiu was one of the greatest Rangers of the last generation...he always played hard, took care of the fans as well as his team mates...

  • Thats the first time i have seen fotiu... always wondered about him since i heard chelios say that he was toughest player to play against.

  • I looked thru my archives and the only thing I could find with Gord Gallant was a movie called "Gord does Black guys" Some gay gangbang flick where this one white guy in a hockey jersey is getting buttfucked by a bunch of Tyrones.

  • u seem to like gay movies eh???

  • caesarcerf most train extensively CORE,supplemented with MMA

  • Fotiu fucked Holmgren up...good, Holmgren was a fuktard! As Don Cherry said, the Flyers were a bunch of cowards.

  • Fotiu kicked ass!

  • agreed jimsboy1. without Bobby Clarke, Orr's knees would have held up for several more years.

  • kordic 1969, no "a lot" of "these guys," DO NOT train with REAL boxers. and no, they could never fight except on the unusual conditions of skates/ice.

  • proton3227 i KNOW because some of us are born to lead others like you, are born to wash my expensive car.

  • flyer fan - they tell me you love to suck a cock!

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  • It's true ... just believe me on this (no questions asked)

  • Fotiu became a Flyer.....laughs

  • gcdcjccc. why should i give you a break. when your dad - your mom's thousandth customer's rubber broke, did you give US a break. no, you were born.

  • Go suck your momma's cock caesar

  • I can't award you enough green thumbs up for this remark...well done.

  • against gerry cooney a so-so boxer, hockey players asses would be kicked into the 22nd century.

    on ice, they fight fine ... of ice, any FAIR amateur boxer over 160 ANY ... could kill the best NHL 'fighter,' UNLESS that person was a skilled boxer at one time; highly unlikely.

  • hey ceasar, please give us all a break

  • And you know this how??? Stick a sock in it Caesar.

  • Gotta love Nicky!

  • Holmgrem fought a lot but lost a lot too.I seen Guy Lapointe punch him to the ice and Guy wasn't known for that sort of stuff.Still,Holmgrem had a lot of heart and a lot of guts and guts is enough.

  • the problem is hockey players can't fight. as someone who has boxed - these guys wouldn't last .05 seconds in against a boxer.

    then again, i can't skate!

  • Nick Fotiu could box, he was a PAL Boxing champion and knew how to fight. Not to mention fighting in skates is a little different than in boots.

  • like who gerry looney cooney?

  • holmgren was a pud-dave hutchisonwiped the chicago stadium ice with him in the 80s

  • Holmgren and Booby Clarke comprise a lightweight flyer front office that has hurt the team for the past 20 years.

  • Nicky Footz, beat that Flyer ass!

  • spreading your pussyder bullshit while your team dies with a WANG

  • i personally have never seen nick fotiu lose i think the only guy that would might be able to do it at that time would be clark gillies maybe stan jonathon

  • Fotiu lost the second fight check it out it,s on youtube

  • you're right!

  • you check it out,kicked he's assss all the time

  • He did???

    You must be a Flyer fan.

  • It was a draw, and the only reason Holmgren kept up with Nicky was because he was too afraid of Nicky to take his helmet off.

  • Bullshit.  But what would we expect from you?

  • @shanedoan101 i wouldnt even cosider the 2nd fight a real fight.

  • Nonsense. They never fought.

  • are u saying fotiu and schultz never fuaght??i heard they did,,but i cant find any footage of it.

  • I remember growing up hearing about nick fotiu and what a good fighter he was. However, i never saw him fight until youtube came along. Now i know why he rarely fought. It's because he destroyed people. Besides being an amateur boxer, he was strong as hell. He beat holmgren easily and holmgren was no slouch.

  • You wish you little prick.

    Howatt was a faggot whose legacy was one fight with Schultz when he pulled Schultz' hair.

    Schultz was afraid to fight Fotiu and this clip is why.

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