Also, anger is not convincing -- except perhaps to children.
In fact, when I see anger like you just displayed, it strongly makes me suspect you are not coming at this from a logical, rational standpoint, but instead are reacting to having a dogma you hold challenged.
I call this the "screeching monkey effect" and it is very telling. If someone said Native Americans weren't systematically exterminated, would the whole world react similarly? No, because the Holocaust is a religious mandate.
So what about the 6 million claimed Jewish Holocaust of World War ONE?
"In this catastrophy, when SIX MILLION HUMAN BEINGS are being WHIRLED TOWARD THE GRAVE by a CRUEL AND RELENTLESS FATE, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.
SIX MILLION MEN AND WOMEN ARE DYING from lack of the necessaries of life;"
Michael Shermer, the editor of Skeptic Magazine, claimed that Auschwitz was an Ideal city turned into a concentration camp turned into a death camp. Meh, this event is so mythologized and politicized that it seems to be impossible for any objectivity to come into the minds of general public about this issue.
Forgive my ignorance but i thought that the whole premise of holocast denial was actually denying that the holocaust happened not simply questioning the official version of events. Inmendham doesn't deny that that holocaust happened he simpy states that some things in the official version don't add up.
You seem like a really cool and interesting lady, you have some very intriguing outlooks and insights. Hope I don't bother you if I go through and comment on some more of your videos. Who knows, I might get off my ass and actually make a video or two at you ha. I think theres probably enough that we agree on to be good friends but enough we disagree on to make us want to punch each other. Those are the best kind of people to talk to. Peace!
I did not watch his video but I will, my point was that it has been mythologized though I would not go nearly so far as to say exaggerated. I do mildly resent your teabagger crack based on the fact that I am very conservative (in a ron paul way). What the tea party started out as was something I could have gotten behind, but unfortunately it was hijacked early on by the GOP. Are they truly facist? No more than liberals are truly communist. I strongly disagree with the rhetoric of both though
@Wally773MTG I have absolutely zero respect for Ron or his toupeed offspring Rand. Or Ayn Rand for that matter. I do agree that the rhetoric on both sides is polarizing, but must make the point that the rhetoric of the right is far more toxic and based on a confused and illiterate conception of both human history and the political process. The Randian premise (and the teabagger premise) is that government BY DEFINITION is bad and a force for repression. This is simplistic to say the least.
@angryislander56 Have you read any Thomas Franks? His book, What's Wrong with Kansas is especially illuminating about the fact that the republican base are the people most harmed by the policies of this party, and are fooled into supporting a corporate agenda by the GOP's relentless exploitation of social issues. I am astounded that the american electorate is about award the Party of NO with a congressional majority. How they can win on the tired platform of tax cuts as the holy grail is..
And the screeching insanity and flat out stupidity of Sarah Palin and her Stepford sister O'Connell IS DEFINITELY a sign of fascism. That woman can't even cooperate with her own side! My way or the bridge to nowhere is her bipartisan stance.
I appreciate your comment about fascism versus communism as rhetoric but am too freaked out by the ACTUAL words of the teabaggers to be as laid back about it. Also, please name some equally high profile communists on the left.
grew to the point of being a problem in that they couldn't just throw them in ghettos and work camps. The nazi's didn't have the resources to sustain that and fight a 3 front war.
In hindsight I probably should have made this a video response...sorry. Also I hope the level of social/ psychological/ historical objectivity I try to maintain doesn't come across as lack of caring or disgust with genocide in general and the holocaust in specific.
@Wally773MTG This video was meant to be a response to inmendhams denial of his denial and his outrageous theory (sort of the denial within the denial)that the holocaust has been mythologized and therefore vastly exaggerated, rather than a full analysis of the genocidal impulses of nazi germany. If the teabaggers continue the march to washington perhaps we will be able to watch the birth of genocidal fascism first hand.Thanks for your comments.
Oh one more thing, technically the concentration camps were not initially set up as death camps, though it really is splitting hairs here...as I have said evil is evil. The death camps were additions that/or were set up chronologically later. It is more efficient, from a nation at war perspective, to work people to death rather than to out right kill them. They were, as they saw it, maximizing their returns on a resource. It was only after the entire conquest of europe that the jewish population
That said I think it utterly despicable how we kill cattle in assembly line fashion...(yet I still eat beef?) How do you feel about that subject? It is a very real parallel to the common rationalization of the death camps. Also you have to take into account that if you spoke out against anything you simply disappeared. Again (I reiterate), this is all in all due to very intelligent and evil people in power who simply realized the tools they had at their disposal in a modern western culture.
You are probably regarding the Wannsee Conferance (among other factors) in your sentiment. I see this as being equivalent to any conscription order being signed by any government. In both cases people are being written into death for what are perceived as noble causes (in some sense) by men who were/are not witness to the result. The jews were percieved as sub-human to these men, cows are percieved as sub-human to us...doesn't it make sense that they would kill jews like we kill cows?
is that it occurred so recently and in a western culture. As it did happen in a western culture and was engineered by some VERY intelligent people, it was to be "done right." The use of the dietification of Hitler, constant and clever propaganda, literal indoctrination of children, secret police, mob mentality, and nationalism through war (all resulting in unbelievable fear, sense of duty, and basically doublethink) combined with the technology of the day led to this perfect storm.
I see what you're saying, I however see the issue a little differently. First of all the modern german social culture is a very organizationally oriented one. I don't see it as a particularly evil genocide, rather a particularly german genocide. I'm sorry but genocide is genocide. The level of efficiency that was attained is purely a function of economic, technological, and industrial evolution. This was easily the most evolved genocide if you will. What makes it particularly horrific to me
given how angry you were at inmendham barely straying from the path of holocaust Truth i wonder how you'd take your fellow canadian outright denying it
no i didn't say anything about defending him did I??
im just here to remind you that you attacked inmendham not because you were outraged, but because you don't like the fucker, and used the holocaust as an excuse to attack him.
What the Nazi's did to the Jews and the gypsies and the mentally ill was horrendous. Just as bad the allied forces knew what was happening and decided not to anything about it.
Oh, I disagree - you've stated here that you agreed with Sheldon's positions. I'm saying that Sheldon couldn't argue those positions effectively.
Baby boomers are the most failed and destructive generation the world has ever known and yet they continue to pontificate as though they are the authorities.
You're standing up for him because you agree with his positions.
Excellent video. Finally I come across some sanity!
I was the first person that talked about this and inmendham promptly blocked me. Shortly afterwards he sicked his minions on me and I labled me as a hater trying to exploit the holocaust. Geez a lot of his fans are retards.
Also, anger is not convincing -- except perhaps to children.
In fact, when I see anger like you just displayed, it strongly makes me suspect you are not coming at this from a logical, rational standpoint, but instead are reacting to having a dogma you hold challenged.
I call this the "screeching monkey effect" and it is very telling. If someone said Native Americans weren't systematically exterminated, would the whole world react similarly? No, because the Holocaust is a religious mandate.
mindprism 5 months ago
So what about the 6 million claimed Jewish Holocaust of World War ONE?
"In this catastrophy, when SIX MILLION HUMAN BEINGS are being WHIRLED TOWARD THE GRAVE by a CRUEL AND RELENTLESS FATE, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.
SIX MILLION MEN AND WOMEN ARE DYING from lack of the necessaries of life;"
Are we mandated to believe that also?
mindprism 5 months ago
Michael Shermer, the editor of Skeptic Magazine, claimed that Auschwitz was an Ideal city turned into a concentration camp turned into a death camp. Meh, this event is so mythologized and politicized that it seems to be impossible for any objectivity to come into the minds of general public about this issue.
FreeVonHelton 1 year ago
Forgive my ignorance but i thought that the whole premise of holocast denial was actually denying that the holocaust happened not simply questioning the official version of events. Inmendham doesn't deny that that holocaust happened he simpy states that some things in the official version don't add up.
ebonyeclipse 1 year ago
You seem like a really cool and interesting lady, you have some very intriguing outlooks and insights. Hope I don't bother you if I go through and comment on some more of your videos. Who knows, I might get off my ass and actually make a video or two at you ha. I think theres probably enough that we agree on to be good friends but enough we disagree on to make us want to punch each other. Those are the best kind of people to talk to. Peace!
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
I did not watch his video but I will, my point was that it has been mythologized though I would not go nearly so far as to say exaggerated. I do mildly resent your teabagger crack based on the fact that I am very conservative (in a ron paul way). What the tea party started out as was something I could have gotten behind, but unfortunately it was hijacked early on by the GOP. Are they truly facist? No more than liberals are truly communist. I strongly disagree with the rhetoric of both though
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
@Wally773MTG I have absolutely zero respect for Ron or his toupeed offspring Rand. Or Ayn Rand for that matter. I do agree that the rhetoric on both sides is polarizing, but must make the point that the rhetoric of the right is far more toxic and based on a confused and illiterate conception of both human history and the political process. The Randian premise (and the teabagger premise) is that government BY DEFINITION is bad and a force for repression. This is simplistic to say the least.
angryislander56 1 year ago
@angryislander56 Have you read any Thomas Franks? His book, What's Wrong with Kansas is especially illuminating about the fact that the republican base are the people most harmed by the policies of this party, and are fooled into supporting a corporate agenda by the GOP's relentless exploitation of social issues. I am astounded that the american electorate is about award the Party of NO with a congressional majority. How they can win on the tired platform of tax cuts as the holy grail is..
angryislander56 1 year ago
@angryislander56 horrifying.
And the screeching insanity and flat out stupidity of Sarah Palin and her Stepford sister O'Connell IS DEFINITELY a sign of fascism. That woman can't even cooperate with her own side! My way or the bridge to nowhere is her bipartisan stance.
I appreciate your comment about fascism versus communism as rhetoric but am too freaked out by the ACTUAL words of the teabaggers to be as laid back about it. Also, please name some equally high profile communists on the left.
angryislander56 1 year ago
grew to the point of being a problem in that they couldn't just throw them in ghettos and work camps. The nazi's didn't have the resources to sustain that and fight a 3 front war.
In hindsight I probably should have made this a video response...sorry. Also I hope the level of social/ psychological/ historical objectivity I try to maintain doesn't come across as lack of caring or disgust with genocide in general and the holocaust in specific.
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
@Wally773MTG This video was meant to be a response to inmendhams denial of his denial and his outrageous theory (sort of the denial within the denial)that the holocaust has been mythologized and therefore vastly exaggerated, rather than a full analysis of the genocidal impulses of nazi germany. If the teabaggers continue the march to washington perhaps we will be able to watch the birth of genocidal fascism first hand.Thanks for your comments.
angryislander56 1 year ago
Oh one more thing, technically the concentration camps were not initially set up as death camps, though it really is splitting hairs here...as I have said evil is evil. The death camps were additions that/or were set up chronologically later. It is more efficient, from a nation at war perspective, to work people to death rather than to out right kill them. They were, as they saw it, maximizing their returns on a resource. It was only after the entire conquest of europe that the jewish population
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
That said I think it utterly despicable how we kill cattle in assembly line fashion...(yet I still eat beef?) How do you feel about that subject? It is a very real parallel to the common rationalization of the death camps. Also you have to take into account that if you spoke out against anything you simply disappeared. Again (I reiterate), this is all in all due to very intelligent and evil people in power who simply realized the tools they had at their disposal in a modern western culture.
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
You are probably regarding the Wannsee Conferance (among other factors) in your sentiment. I see this as being equivalent to any conscription order being signed by any government. In both cases people are being written into death for what are perceived as noble causes (in some sense) by men who were/are not witness to the result. The jews were percieved as sub-human to these men, cows are percieved as sub-human to us...doesn't it make sense that they would kill jews like we kill cows?
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
is that it occurred so recently and in a western culture. As it did happen in a western culture and was engineered by some VERY intelligent people, it was to be "done right." The use of the dietification of Hitler, constant and clever propaganda, literal indoctrination of children, secret police, mob mentality, and nationalism through war (all resulting in unbelievable fear, sense of duty, and basically doublethink) combined with the technology of the day led to this perfect storm.
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
I see what you're saying, I however see the issue a little differently. First of all the modern german social culture is a very organizationally oriented one. I don't see it as a particularly evil genocide, rather a particularly german genocide. I'm sorry but genocide is genocide. The level of efficiency that was attained is purely a function of economic, technological, and industrial evolution. This was easily the most evolved genocide if you will. What makes it particularly horrific to me
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
I agree
shameoncanada 1 year ago
well and forcefully said
I have subscribed
OrionSyndicate910 2 years ago
this video is in the related column of:
watch?v=wR6wyEnhnTQ
given how angry you were at inmendham barely straying from the path of holocaust Truth i wonder how you'd take your fellow canadian outright denying it
gratex 2 years ago
I am supposed to defend some idiot merely because he is Canadian?
That is more of an American thing.
angryislander56 2 years ago
no i didn't say anything about defending him did I??
im just here to remind you that you attacked inmendham not because you were outraged, but because you don't like the fucker, and used the holocaust as an excuse to attack him.
gratex 2 years ago
This is part of your general on going theme that the
Holocaust is less an historical event of unique
consequence than it is a vehicle for various forms
of hypocrisy. I suppose your various attacks on
inmendham come from a place of caring and are
motivated solely by a need to enlighten rather than
pwn.
angryislander56 2 years ago
Despite the fact that I don't like the fucker I certainly
credit him with more intelligence and sophistication
than the knuckle dragging Canuck, to whom I would
not bother to respond with a video. And bitching at
me for being too angry with inmendham is silly.
Does he have any other emotion?
angryislander56 2 years ago
What the Nazi's did to the Jews and the gypsies and the mentally ill was horrendous. Just as bad the allied forces knew what was happening and decided not to anything about it.
silicon2001 3 years ago
i know u commented a year ago bt come one, seriously?
hw where they supposed to know that they were death camps rather than labour camps, and hw were they supposed to stop it?
CocoMac877 2 years ago
Cloudy, dim and not too bright.
Like your knowledge of the history of the event.
Another twit with no factual argument.
cosa59 3 years ago
Whereas your grasp of history is as apparent
as your wit charm and the cum stains inmendham
left on your chin,
angryislander56 3 years ago
nice vid.
popebenadict16 3 years ago
angryislander, well said.
beejusbeejus 3 years ago
Sheldon did NOT get smoked by that kid.The kid
was fighting WAY out of his weight class, his
positions were bullshit and Sheldon was quite
gentle with his precocious misinformed ass.
Another victim of the Ron Paul as Messiah delusion
Thanks for the compliment!
angryislander56 3 years ago
Oh, I disagree - you've stated here that you agreed with Sheldon's positions. I'm saying that Sheldon couldn't argue those positions effectively.
Baby boomers are the most failed and destructive generation the world has ever known and yet they continue to pontificate as though they are the authorities.
You're standing up for him because you agree with his positions.
beejusbeejus 3 years ago
fuck yeah
you rock
onlywhenprovoked 3 years ago
only when provoked:)
angryislander56 3 years ago
The brain trust that is attacking 2bsirius
needs to be told on a daily basis.I do what I can!
angryislander56 3 years ago
it's not holocaust denial. it's stupidity.
zzz33333 3 years ago
potato potaato
angryislander56 3 years ago
thank you for making videos - this especialy!
bwhahrhr 3 years ago
you are especially welcome!
angryislander56 3 years ago
Excellent video. Finally I come across some sanity!
I was the first person that talked about this and inmendham promptly blocked me. Shortly afterwards he sicked his minions on me and I labled me as a hater trying to exploit the holocaust. Geez a lot of his fans are retards.
bcj999 3 years ago
stupidity attracts stupidity:)
I have NO interest in listening to the world
according to inmendham.A place where a dead seal
is a crime deserving the death penalty, but the
systematic genocide of millions is an over told
story.
angryislander56 3 years ago
so if you have time perhaps watch "question of justice" on yt for holocaust industry side of the issue... anyway. stupid "debate".
jogayot 3 years ago
I have not here nor ever denied the existence of
a holocaust industry, nor a certain element of
hypocrisy in the special status of the holocaust
in moral outrage terms.My ONLY point here is that
inmendham was wrong in his description of
historical events.
angryislander56 3 years ago
hope your ankle heals soon!
kayleewyatt 3 years ago
Thanks!
It HAS to heal before I get busy or I am in shit!
So I will be careful for a few days.
angryislander56 3 years ago
Excellent!
Love your stuff.
ProfMTH 3 years ago
is this a boys vs girls thing now?
gratex 3 years ago
welcome to my channel.
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they
aren't really after you:)
angryislander56 3 years ago
now now, just because inmendham is a scary list of people he stalks but doesn't subscribe to doesn't mean that all men do! that's just racialist.
gratex 3 years ago
I see it as more of a sexjectivactionism issue
angryislander56 3 years ago
that is so true
kayleewyatt 3 years ago
Your honest opinion rocks!
MoanaBitchtard 3 years ago
I agree. Good vid.
novanine 3 years ago
exceptional video
nicanicabad 3 years ago
Thanks!
angryislander56 3 years ago
What I find hilarious is that people on both
sides of this "holocaust" idea never read
"mein Kampf". It's not easy to read, but it
will let you know exactly what the Fuhrercore
had in mind from the beginning. You want to
see view the films that Eisenhower ordered
to make sure there was no coverup. The man
who did the films made movies before and after
but he never made another light hearted film.
Get better soon, you're gonna love RAW..lol
tyrbolo 3 years ago
I have read Mein Kampf.
The phrase Final Solution was there from the
beginning.
RAW?
angryislander56 3 years ago
I wanted to post a video response to 2bsirius, too. But that video-hog, attention-whore Elaina43 took my video.
YOURS is a MOST EXCELLENT RESPONSE, Laura.
★★★★★
ElainaWannaBe 3 years ago
Thank you Ms. Wannabe.I value your journalistic
expertise.
angryislander56 3 years ago
Ms. WannaBe is a cunt hair.
MoanaBitchtard 3 years ago
LMFAO!!
angryislander56 3 years ago