Vatican was behind 911 a big set up blame the Muslims -Invade Middle East . destory the Dome of the Rock + kill Muslims Vatican layout is SOLOMONS KEY..Twin towers was near "church" street..The SOLOMON building also fell that day..They plan to rebuild Solomons Temple in the Middle East and rule from the birthplace of Christianity.. In 1099 Pope Urban ll lead the first crusades into the Middle East..to wipe out Muslims and reclaim the holy land..Vatican hide behind God to carry out PURE EVIL.
it was orchestrated by the government -- just not deliberately. it's called "imperialism" and the plan has been underway since the age of exploration.
Thanks for posting- this is what I was watching the morning of. Memory is a bad judge. Do you remember the waving woman in the gaping hole? Her name was Edna. She did not survive. We owe Edna the truth- whatever that may be.
Look I don't buy into the whole cover-up story just to start a war that the USA hasn't won. The only people who truly know what happened are those who were there and since I wasn't there I have to believe the official story
The goal of the war was not to "win" in terms of how you are thinking of it. It was and is unwinnable. The elite always win at wars and the common people always lose. Look into grandaddy Prescott made much of his money. BTW I believe the witness' who were there. Many heard explosions and saw no plane. The media has supressed this but it's out there.
strange how the fist plane is not caught on the media, so did anyone in new york actually see the fisrt plane hit the tower.
Oh and really strange how george bush seen the replay of the first plane crash hit the tower and call the pilot a bad flyer, hmm where is that footage.
Yes The First Plane Was Actually Captured On Tape.. Look Up Jules And Gidein Noduet.. It's In The 9/11 Doc... And Bush Didn't See The First Plane Hit. There Was No Footage Of The First Plane Until Later. He Saw The Second Plane Hit.
Erm .. actually YEAH there is video evidence of the first plane hitting the building ... why do some ignorant people believe this absolute GARBAGE that 9/11 was all fake. GROW the FUCK up !!!
No it wasn't fake. The buildings did collapse somehow, but whether it was a plane, no plane, missle, explosives etc is up in the air. The official story is BS and some news footage was fake. It was a psy-op. All videos of the plane are poor quality and don't show a real crash with proper crash physics.
No. Not at all. I think it's wonderful to be skeptical of everything and everyone. I mean that with all sincerity. You shouldn't blindly buy what others are selling(the government or LOOSE CHANGE). But it's even more wonderful to be intelligent and logical.
But it seems the truthers START from the premise, "this has to be a conspiracy." Then they go about ways of trying to fit facts to validate their premise. That is completely backasswards logic. They aren't looking for the truth at all.
..not true at all. I used to be a sheeple. Then I started questioning what didn't make sense. How can you actually believe there was a plane at the Pentagon and Shanksville? The TT didn't fall. It was a top down demo. Just look at it! In any case what is most important here is I have a right to free speech. I respect yours you respect mine. Somehow now I can be considered a terrorist because of what I say: Patriot Act. Get the picture?
Get the picture? You say, "just look at it." PROVING that it's a top down demo, but when i say, "just look at the planes that hit it." you say they aren't really there. Utter nonsense.
LOL. Yeah, I get the picture...paranoid schizophrenic.
It's not like there isn't hours and hours of analysis, pages and pages of info building the case for demo. Duh? DO I have time to write it all here. Go do your own research and believe what you want or not. You "people" are all the same. Dismiss everything and call us "crazy" or similar. BTW the plane videos are fake.
Thousands of videos were altered, behind EVERYONE'S back, in a matter of minutes? There would be AT LEAST one video of the building exploding without a plane in it. There is not one SHRED of evidence supporting no-plane theory.
If you honestly believe no planes hit the World Trade Center, you are currently a complete lost cause. Someday you'll look back and think, "Man, how could I be so stupid?"
Uhh..most of the videos show no plane hitting the building. There are PLENTY of problems with all of the "plane" videos. Obviously you are not aware of it. I direct you to watch the full "911 taboo" for a brief summary. "September Clues" series is also good. "Choppped Out" ...
And get your facts straight..not thousands. All video is shown in 911 taboo and they all fit on 1 screen. NO Live videos actually shows a plane "entering" the building..which it wouldn't have done anyway without some bending. For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction. No bending no slowdown. Impossible.
Oh help me, because I'm facing Leia the truther... but you sound like you're even more idiotic than Bush.
People saw the planes on the street. If you argue they didn't, then you've obviously NEVER been in New York City. There's people out EVEN AT MIDNIGHT.
But Hell, you'd believe that the planes were giant dragons from Pluto before you believed that the Government didn't plan 9/11, so I'm wasting my time here.
Take your pills, Leia. The "FBI contaminants" in them won't hurt you too badly..
Moron. No. Most plane witnesses were involved with the media or proven actors (Gary Welz who later admitted he saw no plane). Most regular people saw "something", some saw nothing, some saw a small plane. Check what some missiles look like (hint small plane). Some saw a missile. Some sid there was NO PLANE,a bomb. Some saw the white elephant, but most saw digital planes on tv.
leia, you might be the most naive person on this planet. NO PLANE ? ? ? ? are you kidding me. what do all the home videos of united 175 (with over 60 people onboard)show? HOw do you explain the deaths of all those people onboard that aircraft that morning. You need some help
..know all that. ..way beyond that. BTW I can see NYC from my window. I have good reasons for what I think. The videos of planes are fake. 100% fake. Digital plane inserted. OK? Get it. The shadows are wrong. The bleedover is wrong. The building were imploded. The planes were for "scary". Go learn about NPT for a better understanding. All of your questions will be answered. Start with "September CLues".
you have to be the dumbest person on this planet...im done arguing with a person who is simply clueless. And im glad to see most people feel the same way i do. People like you serve no purpose on this planet
Most "witnesses" did not see planes. ..or if they said they saw them they saw them on TV. Strangeky these people are never shown in rebroadcasts. Also original live airings are edited in the archives. Go through the original archives. Ones that saw planes were connected to the media or actors like Gary Welz. Look in to NPT and all questions will be answered.
Well, for one thing people can NOT believe it. If the majority of the people weren't so oblivious We'd have better control of the country/world. We'd not all be slaves (as much anyway). Those responsible could be brought to justice.
Yeah like the news faked the airplanes when there were at least 4000 witnesses in person that saw them with their own eyes. Yah you don't believe the news but you believe some propaganda piece on YouTube made by any shmuck, Fool.
What dont you "inside job" traitors get about the collapse? The buildings were made in the 60s before 747s. The bottom floors of the WTC 1 & 2 were not designed to support weight on top of a 747 crash after most of the supports were blown out that left much less steel to support the weight above. The fires didn't melt any steel but weakened them where the remaining steel and trusses were joined around the damaged floors. All the weight on top simply crushed the bottom floors. It's called Gravity
Your "traitor" quote is great..shows how stupid you are. The buildings could withstand multiple 707 plane impacts. The weights of a 707 and 747 are similar. The steel was certified for much more than temps woouls have reached if it was a real fuel.combustible fire. See Edna Cintron out on the ledge. Also huge metal beams are giant heatsinks. Temperatures were no where near being able to weaken steel. Why was molten steel found? for DAYS?
That's why the Structural engineer of the WTC Leslie E. Robertson doesn't agree with you. He explains himself that the buildings were designed to take a 707 going slow with low fuel, those were his explanation. Not multiple 747s full of jet Fuel going full speed. Some supposed engineer or whatever you're quoting said in some BS documentary and you take his word without question. F*ing Hypocrite.
The steel was certified. Even NIST couldn't make their steel fail in tests performed after 9/11. Geeze so many other buildings raged for days and didn't fall. Shouldn't there be a panic. Jet fuel only burns hot for a VERY short period of time. Heat sink. ..if Robertson said that I'm not surprised. If he though different what would he say? F*ucking moron.
The moron is you. The investigators in 2002 tested steel and said it wouldn't melt but could warp and weaken with prolonged exposure to heat. That was enough to break the trusses off from where they were fastened to the steel walls and core. There was evidence of this on the steel debris where you can see where the trusses did bend and break away from the steel. Without trusses the steel walls couldn't support any weight above, and the steel walls buckled.
Ya well, I believe the structural engineer of WTC who was there, over some loons that didn't even work on those buildings and weren't even around WTC when they collapsed.
You don't have to explain the official story to me. I know it well. The pankacke theory was oficially rescinded. If you want to believe that be my guest. The temps were NOT hot enough to do it. Debris was ejected outward behind squibs. That is what I believe. You beleive what you want. They were top down demos. 7 was a regular demo.
You're right. They say the jet fuel only burned for a few minutes, but that other combustible objects, such as chairs and desk and other office things caught on fire and actually burned hotter than the jet fuel.
Yeah and the firemen said basically there wasn't much there. The needed only a line or 2. Most of the fires were out. I don't think regular combustibles in a regular office building will burn hotter than jet fuel. Also you're forgetting about the HUGE beams that are giant heatsinks. You need a hot hot hot fire for hours and hours. Should we be worried about other skyscrapers? Oh my! Why are they tearing them all down?
Yeah, whatever. You research for 5 or 6 years like I did. Don't just look at 9/11. Look at the Kennedy coverup, Operation Northwoods, OK City. Come out of your trance. The real truth is staring you right in the face.
If you say so. That's why I still have documentaries, Books and magazines that came in 2002. YEah you call your YouTube propaganda truth? You're the sucker.
Look who's talking. You're the ones brainwashed by YouTube and the Internet. What the internet can't lie and spread propaganda? I'm not the one claiming Explosives and missiles when there are no wires found or photos of missiles. You're the ones that see what you want to see. You're the ones that Bush controls not me. Ha ha ha, suckers.
You think they have teh wires hanging off the side of the buildings? I don't think a missle hit the tower. It think it just "exploded". The FBI was confiscating lots and lots of video. The video shown on the news of a "plane" was fake. "Ha ha ha suckers."
The ASTM E119 Standard test for which the steel was certified was developed as a comparative test, not a predictive one, and used to evaluate fire endurance under controlled lab conditions, not real uncontrolled fires. Also, steel looses over half it's strength at 600. And people can bend steel into swords and other objects when it's glowing (hence blacksmiths) so why couldn't Edna Cintron lean out the edge?
The steel blacksmiths use is not necessarily the same certified grade steel as wtc. The swords are forged over a hot oven that is stoked with fuel for hours in a closed heat resistant oven. They are bent by pounding and heating . So what is the comparison? That is not what wtc was.
Also how do you explain the melted steel at ends of the I-beams that were cut nicely at an angle. No fire of regular combustibles will melt steel and cut it like that. Give me a break.
I haven't seen anything about melted steel at the ends of I-Beams. Can you tell me where to go to see those? And from seeing a bunch of hotels constructed here in Vegas on a daily basis, a lot of I-Beams used in these building have angles at the end to join to other I-Beams.
Ignore the people who are calling you names, leia... you're one of the people who are telling the sheep that they're heading for the slaughter... if the only reaction they have is "Baa", rational arguement is pretty much out of the question. You can lead a sheep to information, but you can't make it think.
No you complete idiot !! I am realistic! When the first plane hit tower 1, nearly the whole world had it covered ... and then the 2nd plane hit. GET OVER IT. I am not arguing with the likes of you anyway - I have more respect for the people in the towers, AND on the planes.
Get over it. Not one station showed one live shot of the 1st "plane". Look at the friggin videos. Pause them. They are all 100% fake. Wings go missing. Aluiminum plane does nopt enter steel building like butter. Do some research.
Then why the hell did you post this video, showing that planes entered the building? Contradiciting yourself totally !!! And the reason that not one station showed a live shot of the first plane is because WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY HAVE LIVE SHOTS OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER RANDOMLY JUST STANDING THERE ?!?! Are you actually thick ?! Are you trying to be dumb ?!?! You talk so much BULL-SHIT it is unbelievable !! Stupid cow !
I'm the stupid cow? You are the stupid sheep. Calling me names shows your ignorance. Think! This is what was broadcast. It was fake and notice you don't see any planes actually enter the buildings. That's the psyop that YOU fall for. NO LIVE SHOTS SHOWING THE PLANES ENTERING THE TOWERS WERE SHOWN. Videos that "show" it are fake 100% and broadcast later. These "planes you see are cgi" Look up 'no plane theory' Watch this video for an intro: watch?v=rh7cKDXnS_s
CGI? I was 2 blocks from the World Trade Center when it happened. I guess I didn't see an airplane fly over my head then. They must have figured out a way to composite a cgi jet into real life. Unless this was a mass hallucination. Maybe it was aliens? Where do you live? Kansas? Nobody who lives in New York would dare say something this disrespectful. Tell the families whose relatives died on those planes what you just posted here. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant. Many of the people pushing are family members of those who died. BTW. I live 15 minutes from NYC. Some people saw SOMETHING hit the towers. Most did not see a 747. Go research for 3 years like I did and then get back to me.
I didn't mean it like that. I realise all the loss of life that day and it was devistating. but people that want to constantly argue over devistating events in the world - and go on about how it was allll the governments fault pisses me off
I made a video ages ago named 'The Noble Lie' check the ending, i was going to explain about the Zodiac and add some Dave Allen etc :) anyways check it out, oh whats your take on UFO's?
b6gm6n-My take on UFO's is they exist and the government is covering it up. Doesn't everyone go down that path when you start looking at the rise of civilization & control? I'll check your video now.
Thank you leia176oo, I'm currently making a video about UFOs, but no dialog from me, more an montage/video-noir - Been into them for years, finally found the truth, well about Roswell 1947 at least, the rest is easy... but keep looking to the stars and never lose the ability to dream.
I'm truly sorry you believe the "no-plane" crap that people are forcing down your throat.
Two planes were hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center. That's all there is to it. You cannot believe what "eye-witnesses" said they saw during the chaos of the day, because that's all it was; chaos.
Kamatzu- I beleive in video fakery, which probably means there were no planes. I feel bad you are brainwashed and can't think outside the box for just a second.
I can fake a plane, I'm a decent videographer and with the right home computer tools i can do the same things, create the same illusions, UFO Haiti, you know what i mean? thinking out of the box is great, but you have to temper it with wisdom and a subtle disaffection. show me the evidence!
Leia176oo, ok so i saw the videos, some were very good, I'm tussling with plane wreckage and of course the Pentagon plane bits/parts/whatever...TV fakery used there?
b6gm6n-I beleive some of the smoke video/photos of the pentagon were faked only to control what was being seen on TV. There's actually a supposed live clip of the smoking pentagon that is obviously looped over and over (flying flag jumps). If I get time I'll try to post some links this weekend. ...but search yourself if interested
Just remember to think about things before you get convinced on the no planer side. Remember just cause you cant explain everything thats there doesn't mean its fake.
too bad you can't explain the thousands of eyewitnesses in new york city and new jersey that saw the plane with their own eyes.
you tv fakery lunatics are morons.
my friend was living in new york at the time. he was in brooklyn watching the towers burn, and told me he saw the plane fly in to the building. there's no reason why he'd lie.
DiverseLA-If you are truly interested in tv fakery you need to educate yourself about it. There weren't "thousands of witnesses". Mostly news people giving accounts on tv. There were planes in the sky. Look up the "white elephant". Some people saw "something" hit the tower. Most saw planes on tv. Mind games. Look at the links if interested. You can still beleive in planes..but why fake the video then? The videos are 100% fake.
Skipping plane? - i get it...you should notice the skipping smoke, background etc etc, don't be lead astray by accounts of 'no-planes' as it's distasteful, wrong and damaging... interesting video
b6gm6n- I am a "no planer", or at least, a video fakery person. I'm not lead astray. It is not distasteful, wrong and damaging. There is plenty of proof. Live video was delayed and fabricated.
Leia176oo each to their own i suppose, the only video fakes i know of might be within the Apollo moon missions but that was after the fact, i know we have the tech to do so these day, but have you thought about it? - I have a friend who was there with video camera, he saw both planes and filmed the last, did he fake them?
If the 'families' running the industrial military complex and whatever else pulled this false flag attack off using unlimited resources I'm quite confident they wouldn't expose themselves to cheap video chicanery, they own the military the system the planes the media, no need to cheap effects...that started as a myth and has unfortunately spread
Well, they've always done sloppy rushed jobs in the past and they own the media. It's not as fantastic as it seems. It's mostly been exposes inclding the "plane shaped" See 911 amateur 2..excellent.
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Vatican was behind 911 a big set up blame the Muslims -Invade Middle East . destory the Dome of the Rock + kill Muslims Vatican layout is SOLOMONS KEY..Twin towers was near "church" street..The SOLOMON building also fell that day..They plan to rebuild Solomons Temple in the Middle East and rule from the birthplace of Christianity.. In 1099 Pope Urban ll lead the first crusades into the Middle East..to wipe out Muslims and reclaim the holy land..Vatican hide behind God to carry out PURE EVIL.
2012stargirl 1 year ago
The left hand side of this video drove me mad.
whats with the white thing going off arrhhg
Liegham19307 2 years ago
That effect around the edges is to show it was "old" video when they broadcast it. i agree it is ANNOYING!
leia176oo 2 years ago
it was orchestrated by the government -- just not deliberately. it's called "imperialism" and the plan has been underway since the age of exploration.
WFPLiaison 2 years ago 2
whats up with the empire state building leaning ??
CONCUSSION187 2 years ago 5
its the camera
SheilaCarterFan23 2 years ago
Thanks for posting- this is what I was watching the morning of. Memory is a bad judge. Do you remember the waving woman in the gaping hole? Her name was Edna. She did not survive. We owe Edna the truth- whatever that may be.
julsHz 3 years ago 6
Look I don't buy into the whole cover-up story just to start a war that the USA hasn't won. The only people who truly know what happened are those who were there and since I wasn't there I have to believe the official story
scrawneystick 3 years ago
The goal of the war was not to "win" in terms of how you are thinking of it. It was and is unwinnable. The elite always win at wars and the common people always lose. Look into grandaddy Prescott made much of his money. BTW I believe the witness' who were there. Many heard explosions and saw no plane. The media has supressed this but it's out there.
leia176oo 3 years ago
Even the majority of CTs don't buy the "no planes" theory.,
TyVulpine 2 years ago
strange how the fist plane is not caught on the media, so did anyone in new york actually see the fisrt plane hit the tower.
Oh and really strange how george bush seen the replay of the first plane crash hit the tower and call the pilot a bad flyer, hmm where is that footage.
Ganbareg 3 years ago
Yes The First Plane Was Actually Captured On Tape.. Look Up Jules And Gidein Noduet.. It's In The 9/11 Doc... And Bush Didn't See The First Plane Hit. There Was No Footage Of The First Plane Until Later. He Saw The Second Plane Hit.
LOVINMINEY 3 years ago
Erm .. actually YEAH there is video evidence of the first plane hitting the building ... why do some ignorant people believe this absolute GARBAGE that 9/11 was all fake. GROW the FUCK up !!!
gazb2 3 years ago
No it wasn't fake. The buildings did collapse somehow, but whether it was a plane, no plane, missle, explosives etc is up in the air. The official story is BS and some news footage was fake. It was a psy-op. All videos of the plane are poor quality and don't show a real crash with proper crash physics.
leia176oo 3 years ago
no worries. this webpage isn't real either. something done just to make you feel better.
gripper61 3 years ago
If it's on the news it must be true right.
leia176oo 3 years ago
No. Not at all. I think it's wonderful to be skeptical of everything and everyone. I mean that with all sincerity. You shouldn't blindly buy what others are selling(the government or LOOSE CHANGE). But it's even more wonderful to be intelligent and logical.
But it seems the truthers START from the premise, "this has to be a conspiracy." Then they go about ways of trying to fit facts to validate their premise. That is completely backasswards logic. They aren't looking for the truth at all.
gripper61 3 years ago
..not true at all. I used to be a sheeple. Then I started questioning what didn't make sense. How can you actually believe there was a plane at the Pentagon and Shanksville? The TT didn't fall. It was a top down demo. Just look at it! In any case what is most important here is I have a right to free speech. I respect yours you respect mine. Somehow now I can be considered a terrorist because of what I say: Patriot Act. Get the picture?
leia176oo 3 years ago
Get the picture? You say, "just look at it." PROVING that it's a top down demo, but when i say, "just look at the planes that hit it." you say they aren't really there. Utter nonsense.
LOL. Yeah, I get the picture...paranoid schizophrenic.
gripper61 3 years ago
It's not like there isn't hours and hours of analysis, pages and pages of info building the case for demo. Duh? DO I have time to write it all here. Go do your own research and believe what you want or not. You "people" are all the same. Dismiss everything and call us "crazy" or similar. BTW the plane videos are fake.
leia176oo 3 years ago
TOOL.
gripper61 3 years ago
Thousands of videos were altered, behind EVERYONE'S back, in a matter of minutes? There would be AT LEAST one video of the building exploding without a plane in it. There is not one SHRED of evidence supporting no-plane theory.
If you honestly believe no planes hit the World Trade Center, you are currently a complete lost cause. Someday you'll look back and think, "Man, how could I be so stupid?"
That day can't come soon enough.
Kamatzu 3 years ago
Uhh..most of the videos show no plane hitting the building. There are PLENTY of problems with all of the "plane" videos. Obviously you are not aware of it. I direct you to watch the full "911 taboo" for a brief summary. "September Clues" series is also good. "Choppped Out" ...
leia176oo 3 years ago
And get your facts straight..not thousands. All video is shown in 911 taboo and they all fit on 1 screen. NO Live videos actually shows a plane "entering" the building..which it wouldn't have done anyway without some bending. For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction. No bending no slowdown. Impossible.
leia176oo 3 years ago
I can't seem to detect a point coming from you. Perhaps that's too much to ask.
It takes a special kind of mindset to believe no planes were involved. Seek help.
Kamatzu 3 years ago
I guess you can't comprehend. Watch those videos loser.
leia176oo 3 years ago
You are a TOOL for LOOSE CHANGE.
gripper61 3 years ago
I don't really care for loose change except for a few points. I do like that it made people look again and question. Dylan has sold out.
leia176oo 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Liberals man-I just don't get them. If it was up to them
they would advocate action after they hit us with a nuclear
weapon. When their fruit and granola mornings, and they're
same sex partnership are gone. Then perhaps a real tragedy has happened.
ciabones 3 years ago
Oh help me, because I'm facing Leia the truther... but you sound like you're even more idiotic than Bush.
People saw the planes on the street. If you argue they didn't, then you've obviously NEVER been in New York City. There's people out EVEN AT MIDNIGHT.
But Hell, you'd believe that the planes were giant dragons from Pluto before you believed that the Government didn't plan 9/11, so I'm wasting my time here.
Take your pills, Leia. The "FBI contaminants" in them won't hurt you too badly..
RavenBlah 3 years ago
Moron. No. Most plane witnesses were involved with the media or proven actors (Gary Welz who later admitted he saw no plane). Most regular people saw "something", some saw nothing, some saw a small plane. Check what some missiles look like (hint small plane). Some saw a missile. Some sid there was NO PLANE,a bomb. Some saw the white elephant, but most saw digital planes on tv.
leia176oo 3 years ago
leia, you might be the most naive person on this planet. NO PLANE ? ? ? ? are you kidding me. what do all the home videos of united 175 (with over 60 people onboard)show? HOw do you explain the deaths of all those people onboard that aircraft that morning. You need some help
bengals101 3 years ago
..know all that. ..way beyond that. BTW I can see NYC from my window. I have good reasons for what I think. The videos of planes are fake. 100% fake. Digital plane inserted. OK? Get it. The shadows are wrong. The bleedover is wrong. The building were imploded. The planes were for "scary". Go learn about NPT for a better understanding. All of your questions will be answered. Start with "September CLues".
leia176oo 3 years ago
you have to be the dumbest person on this planet...im done arguing with a person who is simply clueless. And im glad to see most people feel the same way i do. People like you serve no purpose on this planet
bman32122 3 years ago
Look up sheeple. The definition is bman32122.
leia176oo 3 years ago
there were 100,000 actors? Who hired them? Where are they now? Are you saying SAG is part of the 911 conspiracy?
gaguy1967 3 years ago
Most "witnesses" did not see planes. ..or if they said they saw them they saw them on TV. Strangeky these people are never shown in rebroadcasts. Also original live airings are edited in the archives. Go through the original archives. Ones that saw planes were connected to the media or actors like Gary Welz. Look in to NPT and all questions will be answered.
leia176oo 3 years ago
watch?v=GO9s8nNysWg
alienvpredatorvhuman 3 years ago
if this was all 'FAKE', what can ya do really??? besides rant
every generation has been built on lies one way or another. dating back since the crusades.
calibre9mm 3 years ago
Well, for one thing people can NOT believe it. If the majority of the people weren't so oblivious We'd have better control of the country/world. We'd not all be slaves (as much anyway). Those responsible could be brought to justice.
leia176oo 3 years ago
Yeah like the news faked the airplanes when there were at least 4000 witnesses in person that saw them with their own eyes. Yah you don't believe the news but you believe some propaganda piece on YouTube made by any shmuck, Fool.
TheEd78 3 years ago
4000 witnesses? You must mean the ones who "saw" the "planes" on TV
leia176oo 3 years ago
At 2:44, look at the huge gash in the right tower. Now look at the tiny blob we are told is a commercial airplane.
WTF?
apocalypsynch 3 years ago
What dont you "inside job" traitors get about the collapse? The buildings were made in the 60s before 747s. The bottom floors of the WTC 1 & 2 were not designed to support weight on top of a 747 crash after most of the supports were blown out that left much less steel to support the weight above. The fires didn't melt any steel but weakened them where the remaining steel and trusses were joined around the damaged floors. All the weight on top simply crushed the bottom floors. It's called Gravity
TheEd78 3 years ago
Your "traitor" quote is great..shows how stupid you are. The buildings could withstand multiple 707 plane impacts. The weights of a 707 and 747 are similar. The steel was certified for much more than temps woouls have reached if it was a real fuel.combustible fire. See Edna Cintron out on the ledge. Also huge metal beams are giant heatsinks. Temperatures were no where near being able to weaken steel. Why was molten steel found? for DAYS?
leia176oo 3 years ago
BYW, nice profile.
leia176oo 3 years ago
That's why the Structural engineer of the WTC Leslie E. Robertson doesn't agree with you. He explains himself that the buildings were designed to take a 707 going slow with low fuel, those were his explanation. Not multiple 747s full of jet Fuel going full speed. Some supposed engineer or whatever you're quoting said in some BS documentary and you take his word without question. F*ing Hypocrite.
TheEd78 3 years ago
The steel was certified. Even NIST couldn't make their steel fail in tests performed after 9/11. Geeze so many other buildings raged for days and didn't fall. Shouldn't there be a panic. Jet fuel only burns hot for a VERY short period of time. Heat sink. ..if Robertson said that I'm not surprised. If he though different what would he say? F*ucking moron.
leia176oo 3 years ago
The moron is you. The investigators in 2002 tested steel and said it wouldn't melt but could warp and weaken with prolonged exposure to heat. That was enough to break the trusses off from where they were fastened to the steel walls and core. There was evidence of this on the steel debris where you can see where the trusses did bend and break away from the steel. Without trusses the steel walls couldn't support any weight above, and the steel walls buckled.
TheEd78 3 years ago
Ya well, I believe the structural engineer of WTC who was there, over some loons that didn't even work on those buildings and weren't even around WTC when they collapsed.
TheEd78 3 years ago
You don't have to explain the official story to me. I know it well. The pankacke theory was oficially rescinded. If you want to believe that be my guest. The temps were NOT hot enough to do it. Debris was ejected outward behind squibs. That is what I believe. You beleive what you want. They were top down demos. 7 was a regular demo.
leia176oo 3 years ago
You're right. They say the jet fuel only burned for a few minutes, but that other combustible objects, such as chairs and desk and other office things caught on fire and actually burned hotter than the jet fuel.
JediBillman 3 years ago
Yeah and the firemen said basically there wasn't much there. The needed only a line or 2. Most of the fires were out. I don't think regular combustibles in a regular office building will burn hotter than jet fuel. Also you're forgetting about the HUGE beams that are giant heatsinks. You need a hot hot hot fire for hours and hours. Should we be worried about other skyscrapers? Oh my! Why are they tearing them all down?
leia176oo 3 years ago
You don't know shit.
TheEd78 3 years ago
Yeah, whatever. You research for 5 or 6 years like I did. Don't just look at 9/11. Look at the Kennedy coverup, Operation Northwoods, OK City. Come out of your trance. The real truth is staring you right in the face.
leia176oo 3 years ago
If you say so. That's why I still have documentaries, Books and magazines that came in 2002. YEah you call your YouTube propaganda truth? You're the sucker.
TheEd78 3 years ago
Go learn about the mainstream media and who owns it. Your opinion is shaped by what they want you to know.
leia176oo 3 years ago
Look who's talking. You're the ones brainwashed by YouTube and the Internet. What the internet can't lie and spread propaganda? I'm not the one claiming Explosives and missiles when there are no wires found or photos of missiles. You're the ones that see what you want to see. You're the ones that Bush controls not me. Ha ha ha, suckers.
TheEd78 3 years ago
You think they have teh wires hanging off the side of the buildings? I don't think a missle hit the tower. It think it just "exploded". The FBI was confiscating lots and lots of video. The video shown on the news of a "plane" was fake. "Ha ha ha suckers."
leia176oo 3 years ago
You're insane.
TheEd78 3 years ago
The ASTM E119 Standard test for which the steel was certified was developed as a comparative test, not a predictive one, and used to evaluate fire endurance under controlled lab conditions, not real uncontrolled fires. Also, steel looses over half it's strength at 600. And people can bend steel into swords and other objects when it's glowing (hence blacksmiths) so why couldn't Edna Cintron lean out the edge?
JediBillman 3 years ago
The steel blacksmiths use is not necessarily the same certified grade steel as wtc. The swords are forged over a hot oven that is stoked with fuel for hours in a closed heat resistant oven. They are bent by pounding and heating . So what is the comparison? That is not what wtc was.
Also how do you explain the melted steel at ends of the I-beams that were cut nicely at an angle. No fire of regular combustibles will melt steel and cut it like that. Give me a break.
leia176oo 3 years ago
I haven't seen anything about melted steel at the ends of I-Beams. Can you tell me where to go to see those? And from seeing a bunch of hotels constructed here in Vegas on a daily basis, a lot of I-Beams used in these building have angles at the end to join to other I-Beams.
JediBillman 3 years ago
Whenever I see these buildings standing in an old movie it creeps me out
Zach6348 3 years ago
Check out my "WTC in Film" videos. It won't creep you out. It will make you smile.
leia176oo 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this footage.
Ignore the people who are calling you names, leia... you're one of the people who are telling the sheep that they're heading for the slaughter... if the only reaction they have is "Baa", rational arguement is pretty much out of the question. You can lead a sheep to information, but you can't make it think.
FightTheElite 4 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. It does get distressing sometimes.
leia176oo 4 years ago
Oh for god's sake. Look mate, 2 planes both crashed into these towers and they fell - get over it !!
gazb2 4 years ago
You are a fool.
leia176oo 4 years ago
No you complete idiot !! I am realistic! When the first plane hit tower 1, nearly the whole world had it covered ... and then the 2nd plane hit. GET OVER IT. I am not arguing with the likes of you anyway - I have more respect for the people in the towers, AND on the planes.
gazb2 4 years ago
Get over it. Not one station showed one live shot of the 1st "plane". Look at the friggin videos. Pause them. They are all 100% fake. Wings go missing. Aluiminum plane does nopt enter steel building like butter. Do some research.
leia176oo 4 years ago
Then why the hell did you post this video, showing that planes entered the building? Contradiciting yourself totally !!! And the reason that not one station showed a live shot of the first plane is because WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY HAVE LIVE SHOTS OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER RANDOMLY JUST STANDING THERE ?!?! Are you actually thick ?! Are you trying to be dumb ?!?! You talk so much BULL-SHIT it is unbelievable !! Stupid cow !
gazb2 4 years ago
I'm the stupid cow? You are the stupid sheep. Calling me names shows your ignorance. Think! This is what was broadcast. It was fake and notice you don't see any planes actually enter the buildings. That's the psyop that YOU fall for. NO LIVE SHOTS SHOWING THE PLANES ENTERING THE TOWERS WERE SHOWN. Videos that "show" it are fake 100% and broadcast later. These "planes you see are cgi" Look up 'no plane theory' Watch this video for an intro: watch?v=rh7cKDXnS_s
leia176oo 4 years ago
CGI? I was 2 blocks from the World Trade Center when it happened. I guess I didn't see an airplane fly over my head then. They must have figured out a way to composite a cgi jet into real life. Unless this was a mass hallucination. Maybe it was aliens? Where do you live? Kansas? Nobody who lives in New York would dare say something this disrespectful. Tell the families whose relatives died on those planes what you just posted here. You should be ashamed of yourself.
mike7385 4 years ago
You should be ashamed of yourself for being so ignorant. Many of the people pushing are family members of those who died. BTW. I live 15 minutes from NYC. Some people saw SOMETHING hit the towers. Most did not see a 747. Go research for 3 years like I did and then get back to me.
leia176oo 4 years ago
you are a retard almost 3000 people died that day...
RiPHendrix5796 4 years ago
I didn't mean it like that. I realise all the loss of life that day and it was devistating. but people that want to constantly argue over devistating events in the world - and go on about how it was allll the governments fault pisses me off
gazb2 4 years ago
A 737, 757, some time of ''Airbus.'' It all makes sense now... I wish people had more aviation knowledge. Morons.
jofus2019 4 years ago
I made a video ages ago named 'The Noble Lie' check the ending, i was going to explain about the Zodiac and add some Dave Allen etc :) anyways check it out, oh whats your take on UFO's?
b6gm6n 4 years ago
b6gm6n-My take on UFO's is they exist and the government is covering it up. Doesn't everyone go down that path when you start looking at the rise of civilization & control? I'll check your video now.
leia176oo 4 years ago
Thank you leia176oo, I'm currently making a video about UFOs, but no dialog from me, more an montage/video-noir - Been into them for years, finally found the truth, well about Roswell 1947 at least, the rest is easy... but keep looking to the stars and never lose the ability to dream.
b6gm6n 4 years ago
I'm truly sorry you believe the "no-plane" crap that people are forcing down your throat.
Two planes were hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center. That's all there is to it. You cannot believe what "eye-witnesses" said they saw during the chaos of the day, because that's all it was; chaos.
Kamatzu 4 years ago
Kamatzu- I beleive in video fakery, which probably means there were no planes. I feel bad you are brainwashed and can't think outside the box for just a second.
leia176oo 4 years ago
I can fake a plane, I'm a decent videographer and with the right home computer tools i can do the same things, create the same illusions, UFO Haiti, you know what i mean? thinking out of the box is great, but you have to temper it with wisdom and a subtle disaffection. show me the evidence!
b6gm6n 4 years ago
b6gm6n- I updated the "about" section. Look to the right.
leia176oo 4 years ago
ok I'm going to settle in and watch them with my stir fry :)
b6gm6n 4 years ago
This video watch?v=Qw_G-yY9asc
04:37 - says it all to me! _ it's called reverse psychology, or inflection, dead give away actually...I'll watch on, 6 more links to go :)
b6gm6n 4 years ago
Leia176oo, ok so i saw the videos, some were very good, I'm tussling with plane wreckage and of course the Pentagon plane bits/parts/whatever...TV fakery used there?
b6gm6n 4 years ago
b6gm6n-I beleive some of the smoke video/photos of the pentagon were faked only to control what was being seen on TV. There's actually a supposed live clip of the smoking pentagon that is obviously looped over and over (flying flag jumps). If I get time I'll try to post some links this weekend. ...but search yourself if interested
leia176oo 4 years ago
Just remember to think about things before you get convinced on the no planer side. Remember just cause you cant explain everything thats there doesn't mean its fake.
atecom 4 years ago
too bad you can't explain the thousands of eyewitnesses in new york city and new jersey that saw the plane with their own eyes.
you tv fakery lunatics are morons.
my friend was living in new york at the time. he was in brooklyn watching the towers burn, and told me he saw the plane fly in to the building. there's no reason why he'd lie.
DiverseLA 4 years ago 3
DiverseLA-If you are truly interested in tv fakery you need to educate yourself about it. There weren't "thousands of witnesses". Mostly news people giving accounts on tv. There were planes in the sky. Look up the "white elephant". Some people saw "something" hit the tower. Most saw planes on tv. Mind games. Look at the links if interested. You can still beleive in planes..but why fake the video then? The videos are 100% fake.
leia176oo 4 years ago
Skipping plane? - i get it...you should notice the skipping smoke, background etc etc, don't be lead astray by accounts of 'no-planes' as it's distasteful, wrong and damaging... interesting video
b6gm6n 4 years ago
b6gm6n- I am a "no planer", or at least, a video fakery person. I'm not lead astray. It is not distasteful, wrong and damaging. There is plenty of proof. Live video was delayed and fabricated.
leia176oo 4 years ago
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SteveM818 4 years ago
Sorry Steve, but nothings busted. I'll leave your links for others though.
leia176oo 4 years ago
u're not a no planer, u're just a plain idiot
hypnotoad25 4 years ago
Oh yeah!...well..you are a moron so there! I told you, didn't I?
leia176oo 4 years ago
Leia176oo each to their own i suppose, the only video fakes i know of might be within the Apollo moon missions but that was after the fact, i know we have the tech to do so these day, but have you thought about it? - I have a friend who was there with video camera, he saw both planes and filmed the last, did he fake them?
b6gm6n 4 years ago
If the 'families' running the industrial military complex and whatever else pulled this false flag attack off using unlimited resources I'm quite confident they wouldn't expose themselves to cheap video chicanery, they own the military the system the planes the media, no need to cheap effects...that started as a myth and has unfortunately spread
b6gm6n 4 years ago
But I'm open to debate :) everything must be challenged of course to hopefully find the truth, we'll see...
b6gm6n 4 years ago
Well, they've always done sloppy rushed jobs in the past and they own the media. It's not as fantastic as it seems. It's mostly been exposes inclding the "plane shaped" See 911 amateur 2..excellent.
leia176oo 4 years ago
Post the video then. Many people saw planes on tv and many peopel saw "Something" hit the tower.
leia176oo 4 years ago