I've got a 1956 270 that is in my 74 triumph spitfire. wanting to give the motor more hp along with a little lope. cant seem to find much in the after market products. can you help wayneisfree@yahoo.com 318-461-1821
@macaroofor Try Hot Heads. I think someone is making new cams for these motors. Go to the H.A.M.B. forum and you'll find just about everything you need there. Right now I'm modifying a 241 3-duece intake for bigger carbs. I think they're still available new. Bill
@macaroofor PS. Those motors have terrible compression-around 7.2-1. Get some good slugs from Venolia at around 10-1 and that will really get the motor going. Bill
Is that a real D-500 engine? Aren't those like really rare to be turing into drag motors? Or is it just the D-500 cylinder head on a regular Red Ram? Even if it's just the head, they didn't make very many of them, I don't think.
here's a quick idea for all the people posting recently: Take your political bullshit and cry about how shitty america is somewhere else for fucks sake. This vid is about a HEMI, not that fag bush or obama
Obama melting down???in yur dreams..at least he can speak and not murder the absolute hell out of the English language..and the George Bush drug store cowboy routine did us no god dammed good...it just pissed off a lot of people all over the world.
I am sure no one cares if you remove your posts. Youtube is full of shit talkers and it is good to see one leave.
Yah, you contact the internet police and FBI, the most likely thing is that they will lock you up for psychiatric assessment. Let me help you with your spelling;
The Stellite process was developed my Elwood Haynes, not Ford Motor company. Stellite is not suitable for machining so you did not have a crankshaft made from it. Like many hard metals it fractures easily. So exactly which alloy of steel did you use to make your crankshaft made from "Timkin" steel.
You need to finish highschool, get a job, move our from your mommy and daddies house. Then you can buy a car.
you are talking shit, Timkin is a bearing company, Stellite, not steolite, is a hard coating process for valves, it decreases wear, has nothing to do with RPM or HP. "Aluminum", not alumumun. high output oil pumps decrease power, again, they are for longevity, not performance, hydraulic lifters max out at 6500. you are a shit talking moron.
I had one. It was a 241 ci. It had Jahns pistons, an isky with a holley on top. Got it out of a junk yard in Belmont, Calif. in 1963 for fifty bucks. The good old days. Gone forever.
@hwickerman Jeez, it's good to know that such a thing is still possible. And at a price that's unbeatable. I need to know - what are your plans for it? Also, how do you go about getting parts? In 1963, it was easy. Just go down to your local parts store and either it was handed to you over the counter or ordered from the supplier (a wait of maybe a week). I imagine it must be a different animal today. I do miss those days...
Dodge made Red Ram Hemis. KB10GL's correct, all were 241 cubes & only for 2-3 years.
Desoto made Firedome. There were at least two different displacements and the biggest was about 360 cubes until 1957, maybe a few left overs in early '58.
Chrysler made Firepower 1951-1958 & sold a few '59. Industrial and marine engines may have been in 1959 too. 1951-1955 were 331 cubes. 1956 & '57were 354 cubes. Then until 1959 were 392 cubes.
@174x5 I had one few have heard of. It was a '58 fury Golden Commando with a 350 ci. wedge and dual AFB's. Probably worth a fortune now...now that I no longer own it.
In 1953 Ford and GM had their heads up their asses. They had no idea that this engine design would never be surpassed. Ford survived and GM and Chrysler bit the big one. GM went down because they built junk. Chrysler went down because the American peoploe were too freakin stupid to realize that Chrysler was so far ahead and they were all to dumb to connect the dots. I saw it all. Go Mopar
@aminimaleffort ...Chrysler suffered because of the buying publics inability to recognize good engineering. Chrysler had better engines and drivetrtains and that is becoming more prevalent today other than any time in automotive history.
@aminimaleffort ..their is absolutely no advantage with a slopglide or a t 400..it's all pure horseshit. The 9" is another issue. This one Ford got right. It is the best ever and the most copied. Mopar guys get pissed when they see a GM ignition module on my 440, but it works and only costs $20.00. Still Mopar has an advantage, their engines are durable and produce good power.
powerglide transmission are in all winning cars that require factory configuration transmissions.
TH400 is the strongest factory transmission due to the center support in the rear of the case and like the Powerglide, bellhousings are made to fit Ford and Chrysler. Look and see how many racing parts you can get for a 727 or tramsmission.
@raginroadrunner It's also a matter of availability and cost, too. I'm a bit of a purist, but I understand why this happens. In regards to axles, I'd run a 9.25 over a Phord axle. It's also easier to service because it has a removeable cover.
I don't think there's any real difference between the engines any more. I do think that Detroit could learn something from the way the new GTR is built, and in the attention to detail it receives, and apply it to their own performance cars.
@raginroadrunner ..I use a GM module on my Ford 460, my Ford 351 C and my 440 Roadrunner...compared to an MSD for $150...the GM does just as good a job and yes there is a Ford 9" going in my Roadrunner also..it is the best deal going..RR
@raginroadrunner Chrysler, like Ford and GM, had its share of hits and misses and no one company can say that they've been consistantly on the positive side.
427 SOHC is a very nice motor,but the seven foot chain that came with them wouldn't last for more than one pass without stretching so much it would cause the engine to backfire by the end of the strip,,,and besides they only beat the chrysler hemi one year,,,and it was considered a fluke.
@wildpoly318 That's right, the old shotgun motors were great road race engines but put a supercharger and nitro in them and they would come apart pretty regularly. The elephant pretty much dominated after the late 60's at least in the blown and injected classes.
@wildpoly318 That's right, the old shotgun motors were great road race engines but put a supercharger and nitro in them and they would come apart pretty regularly. The elephant pretty much dominated after the late 60's at least in the blown and injected classes.
@wildpoly318 ..I was there...the Sohc showed promise but was hastily designed and built. It underwent a second revamping but still was inadequate compared to the big Mopars. Ford engineering is and always has been half assed. I still run them but I shake my head when I see what they are doing...The engine Ford should have stayed with was the 429 Nascar and stretched it to 500 inches. Improved cylinder sealing, and worked with it, it would be king of the hill today.
@raginroadrunner The problem with the 429 wasn't that Ford didn't want to continue, it was because the NASCAR officials were all Chevy guys and anything the Chevys couldn't beat, they banned. That's the reason that the Super Cobra Jets, the Hemis, and the winged cars were put out to pasture. And if there's no racing to get the reputation out there, the buying public isn't interested. Not only that, but you had insurance and environmental issues coming into play in 1972.
@moparmonster1965 ..Right...100%..however...the Cleveland ran into the same emission issues...GM figured out how to scrub their big blocks and Ford should have done the same thing. Ford had a habit of jumping ship whenever a problem came up back then. As a result many engine and car builders dropped them and went to GM. Ford had gotten a little better but their management style still sucks. Their trucks went to hell, they dropped the only four wheel drive utility rig.
@raginroadrunner And by the late 1950s, both Chrysler and Ford figured out that it made financial sense to have just one line of engines used by all makes, something GM wouldn't discover until the late 1980s. Up to that point, Chevy, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Buick all made their own 350, but none of the parts interchanged.
@moparmonster1965..and as a result all GM brands lost their identity. GM went to the sleezy Chev engine and dropped engines that were made to a much higher standard. I know it's all economics but part of the loyalty was lost also. Nowadays none of are worth owning...all electronic money pits for the dealers to make even more to service.
I disagree here. By the time GM figured out that they were wasting millions of dollars a year being backward, the soul and fire had already left Detroit. That said, Chevys were still the entry-level GM, Pontiac was still the performance marque, and Oldsmobile/Buick the more luxury-oriented brands that were more affordable than Cadillac.
Also keep in mind that when Chrysler and Ford made the change, it was a recession year, 1958, so that could've had something to do with it as well.
@moparmonster1965 .to this day when I attend a car show, something is missing. The older GM cars always had their brand engine and this created an identity platform. Caddy, Buick, Olds and so on. Now if you buy any car it has the same old crap engine that the cheapest model has in it. And you just paid thousands more for a Caddy or Lincoln and got what us guys down in the cheap seats have. This in my mind is a rip off. Cadillac Escalade is nothing but Cheverlay with glue on body panels .
@moparmonster1965 ...no not news...just an affirmation of how the industry has gone to hell. It tends to illustrate how our country has deteriorated amidst the burgeoning giants in Europe. We as Americans have slipped and allowed country to stray in unknown directions.
@raginroadrunner I agree here on all counts, but with the safety and environmental concerns, there's no going back. Globalization and the free market are the enemy, too, because with the GOP firmly supporting the rich and corporations, they've set the stage for jobs to be exported so when the economy went down the shitter, it turned out to be worse than it needed to be. TARP then passes and the banks get bailed out with the understanding that they'd correct their behavior, which they haven't.
@raginroadrunner The problem here is that the GOP is focused on banks, corporations, and the rich. They've forgotten about us years ago. Even their idol, Ronald Reagan, would be considered a RINO nowadays because the party took a steep dive to the far right during the Clinton administration, and they conduct themselves in such a manner that he would've never conceived.
@moparmonster1965 .I agree and I'd like to add that Ronald Reagan was incapasitated as a result of Alzheimers disease just barely into his first term. Him being an actor, reading from a prerpared script was second nature for him. The biggest scam pulled on the American to date was the trickle down stunt. By this time anyone with half a brain knew the repubes were up to no good. His 600 ship Navy( now rusting in San Francisco) and the trade of TOW MIssles to the Iranians has proven to be wrong.
@raginroadrunner Ofcourse our ManBearPig party will take beautiful motors like this and melt them down into Bong bowls , and force you to to your dyno testing in a urine soaked city bus ,,,,,,oh and its 2011 ,, Obama is Melting down his own Navy into priuses as we speak
When I say I'm a purist, if I were into Buicks, I would still have no problem with shoehorning a 455 into a '48 sedanette. What I don't like is the cookie-cutter approach to hotrodding, and that's take whatever car you can get your hands on, put a 350/TH400/Ford 9" rear axle combo into it and call it good. That shows an enormous lack of imagination and the loss of the true innovative hot rodding spirit.
@raginroadrunner But you missed the point; it's a worn-out concept and those people have no idea how to think for themselves because they're just reapplying the same formula over and over again. The 9" is fine, yes, but again, I'll go with the 9.25" instead.
@moparmonster1965 ..why??? in over 50 years of high performance cars I've broken one 9"...that hardly constitutes anyhting else...and there are over 40 ratios available for the "Mighty 9"....and ..no.... I haven't missed the point...most hot rods are built by someone else...then they are bought and taken to events where the current owners try to impress the onlookers of their automotive prowness...phony is as phony does....most of them are just plain boring.
@raginroadrunner The Ford 9" hasn't existed for "over 50 years." I believe it was built for 29 years (1957-1986). Anything beyond that isn't a Ford product because it's aftermarket, which means it's been changed, updated, and otherwise taken farther from the original design by someone other than Ford engineers.
Yes, they have lots of parts available for them...except for that rear access cover. And they're just like Chevy 350s, common and boring, as you've already stated.
@moparmonster1965 ..Dude...you got it wrong again..I did not say the 9 was 50 years old... I said I raced it for over 50 years.....Ford 9" does not have and has never had a rear access cover to my knowledge. A 9" rear axle is common...but boring..hardly..no one managed to come up with anything better and they are copied by several different aftermarket builders.
@raginroadrunner When you said "..the best part of that buildup is the Ford 9"...," it was clear that we were discussing the Ford 9", which wasn't produced that long. Had you said that you used the Ford 9" and its later aftermarket copies, I would've taken you at your word, but you didn't.
And you're at least 65 but using the word "dude?" I'm a lot younger than that and I don't use it. One also has to ask that if the Ford 9" is so great, why doesn't the company use it in its own vehicles?
@raginroadrunner Well, you can't really compare old cars to new cars because they're not the same. A turbocharged Acura may well beat a well-tuned 440+6 GTX, which shows that they're not in the same league. The difference is that one has character and the other doesn't.
@short1963 Except all the Hemi's in the winner's circle. You'll notice that the top engine builders copy the Hemi. Not a whole lot of ferds in top fuel...a mopar 'kid'.
It just happened that way. They could have used the 454 Chevy BIG BLOCK. Others aren't "based" on Hemi engines, they use the 427 generally - the racing Hemi. FERD was actually the first manufacturer to have Hemispherical Combustion-Chambered engines - the more you know. There actually is a 500 BOSS Ford MOTORCRAFT engine that was used in Top Fuel briefly, and is still used in John Forces Funny Car, the same guy who set the world record.
@TheTruthSetlingUFree OK, you got my interest - What year did Ford introduce the Hemi? Because I once had a 241ci Hemi that came out of a 53' Dodge. And you're sayin' Ford had one earlier? Also, the top fuel Hemi's are built with a solid block (no water jackets). These engines are producing over 8000 HP - And you're telling me Force is running Nitromethane through a Ford factory block?
It was engineered in the late '30's and used in the 41 Ford, although according to Hot Rod magazine, it's the Europeans who can claim the pioneering of the engine. The Nitro engine, ha a strengthened block for better duability than the standard nitro engine. A new belly pan for better sealing; the valve covers are purposely reminiscent of the old BOSS motors, and yes 8000 horses.
NICE ; LIKE THE OLDER ENGINES ! hey for the one talking about techs ; some have been around some old school cars & engines as i happen to know some . don`t mean they are not capable !
Darn tootin! We redneck like to do our engine work shadetree style! We don't need no fancy book lernin' or "factory training" or "experience" like those technicians, we know these engines better than them!
BOYS, BOYS, BOYS...if you want to argue about something, go do it at your house...you're keeping me awake all night with that damn bickering!!! GRUMPY (cool motor though, HUH???)
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Oh yea I bet you do. Your 14 yrs old right? Well when I was your age I had 3! And I was getting on youtube and posting ignorant comments on everybodys videos.
I actually prefer the 270 to the 325 . It has a better bore to stroke ratio that allows them to wind up real fast. The heads have smaller ports but can be opened up easily to flow even better then the 325 heads also they have smaller chambers . You have some great stuff kid take care of them!
How do you know the kid's lying? I had a 427 Ford Side oiler, and a 48 Harley Panhead! when I was 14!
These old motors are out there in the small unknown nooks and crannies of this great nation of ours, and the young people out there that get hold of one or two should be encouraged, and not discouraged.
Get hold hold every old repair manual you can lay your hands on, and get tight with an old mechanic. (A MECHANIC, not a Technician! Mechanics fix things, Technicians went to trade school)
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How do you know he's telling the truth? If he post on here that the sky is red, are you gonna believe that too??
And mechanics were technicians at one point. Are you telling this kid not to go to trade school? Sounds to me like you think a tech doesn't know what he doing, and a trade school can't teach someone to be a mechanic.
Your a hypocrite and two statements from your post prove it.
If he has these motors, so be it. But don't knock trade schools. Everyones gotta start somewhere.
that's O.K. if you go to high school...just make sure you make ALOT of money in your life, then you can work on Hot Rods AND get your every day things done too...
Wasn't knocking trade schools! You don't seem to get it! OK I'll spell it out for you.
Red Ram Hemis have something that most modern engines do not have. Things like points, and carburetors, and such. It is highly unlikely that your normal every day trade school teaches much about these things because we're dealing with something that is fifty years old!
For that you need somebody that's got some time under the hood!
I've got nothing against technicians! But you've got to pay your dues!
HEY EVERYONE LISTON TO THIS GUY hes got the right idea. i live in wyoming where theres more cattle than people and more junkyards than ranches i could have way more crap if i wanted to im just getting started subscribe to me i will put good vids on
Well I have over 30 of them myself , and my nephew thats 11 has a couple (56' 315 and 58' 392) that I have given him and a Steel body 32 roadster my father gave him so he can have ready for the time he turns 16.
this is very true the 325 has alot of power on the top and low end because its gotta 4 barrel carb. the 270 on the other hand has a 2 barrel stock and is good at ripping around on the low end
Strictly speaking, the sign on the wall is not correct. The ONLY Red Ram Hemi was the 241 cid engine from 1953 & '54. All other Red Rams were Poly motors untill the Wedge engine in 1959.
The D500 [Hemi] was the 315 from 1956 or the 325 from 1957.
Were you ever at the drags in the 50's or 60's??? That's how they idled them so there was no hesitation off the line...and it's got a roller cam, which takes some of the "lopiness" out of the cam sound...
@Tyler28125 yea, go ahead and idle it slower on nitromethane and an early injection system. After you pick the valves out of your nostrils, tell me all about it.
I've got a 241 Red Ram Hemi...I hope it sounds as good as that someday!
Deorametalworks 1 month ago
I want that in my Ram
the1onlyteagro 1 month ago
I've got a 1956 270 that is in my 74 triumph spitfire. wanting to give the motor more hp along with a little lope. cant seem to find much in the after market products. can you help wayneisfree@yahoo.com 318-461-1821
macaroofor 1 month ago
@macaroofor Try Hot Heads. I think someone is making new cams for these motors. Go to the H.A.M.B. forum and you'll find just about everything you need there. Right now I'm modifying a 241 3-duece intake for bigger carbs. I think they're still available new. Bill
earlyhemibill 1 week ago
@macaroofor PS. Those motors have terrible compression-around 7.2-1. Get some good slugs from Venolia at around 10-1 and that will really get the motor going. Bill
earlyhemibill 1 week ago
Is that a real D-500 engine? Aren't those like really rare to be turing into drag motors? Or is it just the D-500 cylinder head on a regular Red Ram? Even if it's just the head, they didn't make very many of them, I don't think.
justforever96 2 months ago
here's a quick idea for all the people posting recently: Take your political bullshit and cry about how shitty america is somewhere else for fucks sake. This vid is about a HEMI, not that fag bush or obama
Ajacques8000 3 months ago
Obama melting down???in yur dreams..at least he can speak and not murder the absolute hell out of the English language..and the George Bush drug store cowboy routine did us no god dammed good...it just pissed off a lot of people all over the world.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner Sorry...he soesn't even read a teli promter well
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@raginroadrunner 57 states & corpse-man......Bugwit..
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I am sure no one cares if you remove your posts. Youtube is full of shit talkers and it is good to see one leave.
Yah, you contact the internet police and FBI, the most likely thing is that they will lock you up for psychiatric assessment. Let me help you with your spelling;
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Seems like you are illiterate and stupid.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@david1513
The Stellite process was developed my Elwood Haynes, not Ford Motor company. Stellite is not suitable for machining so you did not have a crankshaft made from it. Like many hard metals it fractures easily. So exactly which alloy of steel did you use to make your crankshaft made from "Timkin" steel.
You need to finish highschool, get a job, move our from your mommy and daddies house. Then you can buy a car.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
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Here is my address and name, you give it to the FBI,
they probably don't work outside the usa, right? You might need to use your contacts at the CIA.
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@david1513 How do you bore a 241 out to 500?
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red line on big blocks is 6700 is it?
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you are talking shit, Timkin is a bearing company, Stellite, not steolite, is a hard coating process for valves, it decreases wear, has nothing to do with RPM or HP. "Aluminum", not alumumun. high output oil pumps decrease power, again, they are for longevity, not performance, hydraulic lifters max out at 6500. you are a shit talking moron.
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david1513 4 months ago
im kinda still new with dodge im realy a gm guy i didnt know the hemi was around in the 1950s i though that was a 60s and 70s thing
grizzleybearz282004 6 months ago
Amazing Engine! But I'd say the ole girl got pretty hot with no water in it. :/
Chevypower265 6 months ago
you are lucky man :)
sniegaviirs24 6 months ago
I had one. It was a 241 ci. It had Jahns pistons, an isky with a holley on top. Got it out of a junk yard in Belmont, Calif. in 1963 for fifty bucks. The good old days. Gone forever.
554687858 11 months ago
@554687858 not gone,last month i bought a 241 from a recycle yard for $125.
hwickerman 10 months ago
@hwickerman Jeez, it's good to know that such a thing is still possible. And at a price that's unbeatable. I need to know - what are your plans for it? Also, how do you go about getting parts? In 1963, it was easy. Just go down to your local parts store and either it was handed to you over the counter or ordered from the supplier (a wait of maybe a week). I imagine it must be a different animal today. I do miss those days...
554687858 10 months ago
@554687858 not gone,last month i bought a 241 from a recycle yard for $125.
hwickerman 10 months ago
That is a thing of pure beauty!
ExUSSailor 1 year ago
Dodge made Red Ram Hemis. KB10GL's correct, all were 241 cubes & only for 2-3 years.
Desoto made Firedome. There were at least two different displacements and the biggest was about 360 cubes until 1957, maybe a few left overs in early '58.
Chrysler made Firepower 1951-1958 & sold a few '59. Industrial and marine engines may have been in 1959 too. 1951-1955 were 331 cubes. 1956 & '57were 354 cubes. Then until 1959 were 392 cubes.
174x5 1 year ago
@174x5 I had one few have heard of. It was a '58 fury Golden Commando with a 350 ci. wedge and dual AFB's. Probably worth a fortune now...now that I no longer own it.
554687858 11 months ago
--- Could I clean your shop please? I'll do a good job.
WillysWoodPile 1 year ago
i like them all but 427 cammer is king
galaxie63punk 1 year ago
It wanted to eat that poster!!
MalliganTheUFO 1 year ago
In 1953 Ford and GM had their heads up their asses. They had no idea that this engine design would never be surpassed. Ford survived and GM and Chrysler bit the big one. GM went down because they built junk. Chrysler went down because the American peoploe were too freakin stupid to realize that Chrysler was so far ahead and they were all to dumb to connect the dots. I saw it all. Go Mopar
raginroadrunner 1 year ago
@raginroadrunner
that does not make sense " Chrysler went down because... "
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@aminimaleffort ...Chrysler suffered because of the buying publics inability to recognize good engineering. Chrysler had better engines and drivetrtains and that is becoming more prevalent today other than any time in automotive history.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner
is that why mopar racers use powerglide and TH400 transmissions and Ford 9 inch rear ends?
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@aminimaleffort ..their is absolutely no advantage with a slopglide or a t 400..it's all pure horseshit. The 9" is another issue. This one Ford got right. It is the best ever and the most copied. Mopar guys get pissed when they see a GM ignition module on my 440, but it works and only costs $20.00. Still Mopar has an advantage, their engines are durable and produce good power.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner
powerglide transmission are in all winning cars that require factory configuration transmissions.
TH400 is the strongest factory transmission due to the center support in the rear of the case and like the Powerglide, bellhousings are made to fit Ford and Chrysler. Look and see how many racing parts you can get for a 727 or tramsmission.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@aminimaleffort ..might be..haven't run Mopars for years..just Ford with C4's..will take about anything...
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner It's also a matter of availability and cost, too. I'm a bit of a purist, but I understand why this happens. In regards to axles, I'd run a 9.25 over a Phord axle. It's also easier to service because it has a removeable cover.
I don't think there's any real difference between the engines any more. I do think that Detroit could learn something from the way the new GTR is built, and in the attention to detail it receives, and apply it to their own performance cars.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner ..I use a GM module on my Ford 460, my Ford 351 C and my 440 Roadrunner...compared to an MSD for $150...the GM does just as good a job and yes there is a Ford 9" going in my Roadrunner also..it is the best deal going..RR
raginroadrunner 1 month ago
@raginroadrunner Chrysler, like Ford and GM, had its share of hits and misses and no one company can say that they've been consistantly on the positive side.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
427 SOHC is a very nice motor,but the seven foot chain that came with them wouldn't last for more than one pass without stretching so much it would cause the engine to backfire by the end of the strip,,,and besides they only beat the chrysler hemi one year,,,and it was considered a fluke.
wildpoly318 1 year ago
@wildpoly318 That's right, the old shotgun motors were great road race engines but put a supercharger and nitro in them and they would come apart pretty regularly. The elephant pretty much dominated after the late 60's at least in the blown and injected classes.
DBLCC 1 year ago
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@wildpoly318 That's right, the old shotgun motors were great road race engines but put a supercharger and nitro in them and they would come apart pretty regularly. The elephant pretty much dominated after the late 60's at least in the blown and injected classes.
DBLCC 1 year ago
@wildpoly318 ..I was there...the Sohc showed promise but was hastily designed and built. It underwent a second revamping but still was inadequate compared to the big Mopars. Ford engineering is and always has been half assed. I still run them but I shake my head when I see what they are doing...The engine Ford should have stayed with was the 429 Nascar and stretched it to 500 inches. Improved cylinder sealing, and worked with it, it would be king of the hill today.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner The problem with the 429 wasn't that Ford didn't want to continue, it was because the NASCAR officials were all Chevy guys and anything the Chevys couldn't beat, they banned. That's the reason that the Super Cobra Jets, the Hemis, and the winged cars were put out to pasture. And if there's no racing to get the reputation out there, the buying public isn't interested. Not only that, but you had insurance and environmental issues coming into play in 1972.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ..Right...100%..however...the Cleveland ran into the same emission issues...GM figured out how to scrub their big blocks and Ford should have done the same thing. Ford had a habit of jumping ship whenever a problem came up back then. As a result many engine and car builders dropped them and went to GM. Ford had gotten a little better but their management style still sucks. Their trucks went to hell, they dropped the only four wheel drive utility rig.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner And by the late 1950s, both Chrysler and Ford figured out that it made financial sense to have just one line of engines used by all makes, something GM wouldn't discover until the late 1980s. Up to that point, Chevy, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Buick all made their own 350, but none of the parts interchanged.
How stupid is that?
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965..and as a result all GM brands lost their identity. GM went to the sleezy Chev engine and dropped engines that were made to a much higher standard. I know it's all economics but part of the loyalty was lost also. Nowadays none of are worth owning...all electronic money pits for the dealers to make even more to service.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
I disagree here. By the time GM figured out that they were wasting millions of dollars a year being backward, the soul and fire had already left Detroit. That said, Chevys were still the entry-level GM, Pontiac was still the performance marque, and Oldsmobile/Buick the more luxury-oriented brands that were more affordable than Cadillac.
Also keep in mind that when Chrysler and Ford made the change, it was a recession year, 1958, so that could've had something to do with it as well.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 .to this day when I attend a car show, something is missing. The older GM cars always had their brand engine and this created an identity platform. Caddy, Buick, Olds and so on. Now if you buy any car it has the same old crap engine that the cheapest model has in it. And you just paid thousands more for a Caddy or Lincoln and got what us guys down in the cheap seats have. This in my mind is a rip off. Cadillac Escalade is nothing but Cheverlay with glue on body panels .
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
Yes, the Escalade is just a Suburban/Avalanche, but GM has been badge engineering cars that way for 40 years. This isn't news at all.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ...no not news...just an affirmation of how the industry has gone to hell. It tends to illustrate how our country has deteriorated amidst the burgeoning giants in Europe. We as Americans have slipped and allowed country to stray in unknown directions.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner I agree here on all counts, but with the safety and environmental concerns, there's no going back. Globalization and the free market are the enemy, too, because with the GOP firmly supporting the rich and corporations, they've set the stage for jobs to be exported so when the economy went down the shitter, it turned out to be worse than it needed to be. TARP then passes and the banks get bailed out with the understanding that they'd correct their behavior, which they haven't.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965..Yep...and the process to enact stiffer banking regulations are decades away..if ever.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner The problem here is that the GOP is focused on banks, corporations, and the rich. They've forgotten about us years ago. Even their idol, Ronald Reagan, would be considered a RINO nowadays because the party took a steep dive to the far right during the Clinton administration, and they conduct themselves in such a manner that he would've never conceived.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 .I agree and I'd like to add that Ronald Reagan was incapasitated as a result of Alzheimers disease just barely into his first term. Him being an actor, reading from a prerpared script was second nature for him. The biggest scam pulled on the American to date was the trickle down stunt. By this time anyone with half a brain knew the repubes were up to no good. His 600 ship Navy( now rusting in San Francisco) and the trade of TOW MIssles to the Iranians has proven to be wrong.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner Ofcourse our ManBearPig party will take beautiful motors like this and melt them down into Bong bowls , and force you to to your dyno testing in a urine soaked city bus ,,,,,,oh and its 2011 ,, Obama is Melting down his own Navy into priuses as we speak
brb0713 3 months ago
When I say I'm a purist, if I were into Buicks, I would still have no problem with shoehorning a 455 into a '48 sedanette. What I don't like is the cookie-cutter approach to hotrodding, and that's take whatever car you can get your hands on, put a 350/TH400/Ford 9" rear axle combo into it and call it good. That shows an enormous lack of imagination and the loss of the true innovative hot rodding spirit.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ..the best part of that buildup is the Ford 9"...
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner But you missed the point; it's a worn-out concept and those people have no idea how to think for themselves because they're just reapplying the same formula over and over again. The 9" is fine, yes, but again, I'll go with the 9.25" instead.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ..why??? in over 50 years of high performance cars I've broken one 9"...that hardly constitutes anyhting else...and there are over 40 ratios available for the "Mighty 9"....and ..no.... I haven't missed the point...most hot rods are built by someone else...then they are bought and taken to events where the current owners try to impress the onlookers of their automotive prowness...phony is as phony does....most of them are just plain boring.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner The Ford 9" hasn't existed for "over 50 years." I believe it was built for 29 years (1957-1986). Anything beyond that isn't a Ford product because it's aftermarket, which means it's been changed, updated, and otherwise taken farther from the original design by someone other than Ford engineers.
Yes, they have lots of parts available for them...except for that rear access cover. And they're just like Chevy 350s, common and boring, as you've already stated.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ..Dude...you got it wrong again..I did not say the 9 was 50 years old... I said I raced it for over 50 years.....Ford 9" does not have and has never had a rear access cover to my knowledge. A 9" rear axle is common...but boring..hardly..no one managed to come up with anything better and they are copied by several different aftermarket builders.
raginroadrunner 3 months ago
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@raginroadrunner When you said "..the best part of that buildup is the Ford 9"...," it was clear that we were discussing the Ford 9", which wasn't produced that long. Had you said that you used the Ford 9" and its later aftermarket copies, I would've taken you at your word, but you didn't.
And you're at least 65 but using the word "dude?" I'm a lot younger than that and I don't use it. One also has to ask that if the Ford 9" is so great, why doesn't the company use it in its own vehicles?
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
@raginroadrunner Well, you can't really compare old cars to new cars because they're not the same. A turbocharged Acura may well beat a well-tuned 440+6 GTX, which shows that they're not in the same league. The difference is that one has character and the other doesn't.
moparmonster1965 3 months ago
que lindo fierro!!! te felicito (nice sounds!!!)my inglish is bad, sory
gernachio 2 years ago
@gernachio You got your point across dude. That's all that counts. Besides, your english is probably better than a lot of Americans.
554687858 11 months ago
sorry mopar kids im a gm man but NOTHING beats a 427 sohc ford.hands down
short1963 2 years ago
@short1963 look at top fuel nothing but 496 hemi's
terran698 2 years ago
@short1963 Except all the Hemi's in the winner's circle. You'll notice that the top engine builders copy the Hemi. Not a whole lot of ferds in top fuel...a mopar 'kid'.
554687858 11 months ago
@554687858
It just happened that way. They could have used the 454 Chevy BIG BLOCK. Others aren't "based" on Hemi engines, they use the 427 generally - the racing Hemi. FERD was actually the first manufacturer to have Hemispherical Combustion-Chambered engines - the more you know. There actually is a 500 BOSS Ford MOTORCRAFT engine that was used in Top Fuel briefly, and is still used in John Forces Funny Car, the same guy who set the world record.
TheTruthSetlingUFree 4 months ago
@TheTruthSetlingUFree OK, you got my interest - What year did Ford introduce the Hemi? Because I once had a 241ci Hemi that came out of a 53' Dodge. And you're sayin' Ford had one earlier? Also, the top fuel Hemi's are built with a solid block (no water jackets). These engines are producing over 8000 HP - And you're telling me Force is running Nitromethane through a Ford factory block?
554687858 4 months ago
@554687858
It was engineered in the late '30's and used in the 41 Ford, although according to Hot Rod magazine, it's the Europeans who can claim the pioneering of the engine. The Nitro engine, ha a strengthened block for better duability than the standard nitro engine. A new belly pan for better sealing; the valve covers are purposely reminiscent of the old BOSS motors, and yes 8000 horses.
TheTruthSetlingUFree 3 months ago
Running an engine with no coolant is always smart.
PistolPete2 2 years ago
they have i spark plug on the top of each piston...the ultimate engine, cant beat a hemi
slipknotkicksass666 2 years ago
NICE ; LIKE THE OLDER ENGINES ! hey for the one talking about techs ; some have been around some old school cars & engines as i happen to know some . don`t mean they are not capable !
crownv80 2 years ago
man thats a nice lookin one ya got there
Bamchucknorris 2 years ago
Man, that sounds great; I wish my local pizza guy had one.
thewelford 2 years ago
you'd burn your mouth on the pizza if he was deliverin' it with this...
50shotrods 2 years ago 2
now thats a dirty ol hemi
HEMIdoctor 2 years ago 3
thanks Doc!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
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"i go to high school duh" ????
LOL you seem very mature for your age. Whats next? "I'm rubber and you're glue?"
SparkinNparkin 2 years ago
i didnt go to trade school
carbpumper 2 years ago
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So first you say that you go to high school? And now you say that you didn't go to trade school?
What the hell are you talking about????????
SparkinNparkin 2 years ago
no darn technician is gonna touch ma HEMI...GARON-TEED!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
Darn tootin! We redneck like to do our engine work shadetree style! We don't need no fancy book lernin' or "factory training" or "experience" like those technicians, we know these engines better than them!
TrapOxidizer 2 years ago
Rednecks are ignorant, dense and shallow, like you.
mo1971fordcrew 2 years ago
BOYS, BOYS, BOYS...if you want to argue about something, go do it at your house...you're keeping me awake all night with that damn bickering!!! GRUMPY (cool motor though, HUH???)
50shotrods 2 years ago
love the small block hemis i got 2 of em
carbpumper 2 years ago
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Oh yea I bet you do. Your 14 yrs old right? Well when I was your age I had 3! And I was getting on youtube and posting ignorant comments on everybodys videos.
SparkinNparkin 2 years ago
well i do. one is a 57 325 4bbl red ram and the other is a 270 red ram
carbpumper 2 years ago
I actually prefer the 270 to the 325 . It has a better bore to stroke ratio that allows them to wind up real fast. The heads have smaller ports but can be opened up easily to flow even better then the 325 heads also they have smaller chambers . You have some great stuff kid take care of them!
fleetcaretrucks 2 years ago
How do you know the kid's lying? I had a 427 Ford Side oiler, and a 48 Harley Panhead! when I was 14!
These old motors are out there in the small unknown nooks and crannies of this great nation of ours, and the young people out there that get hold of one or two should be encouraged, and not discouraged.
Get hold hold every old repair manual you can lay your hands on, and get tight with an old mechanic. (A MECHANIC, not a Technician! Mechanics fix things, Technicians went to trade school)
saludahead 2 years ago
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How do you know he's telling the truth? If he post on here that the sky is red, are you gonna believe that too??
And mechanics were technicians at one point. Are you telling this kid not to go to trade school? Sounds to me like you think a tech doesn't know what he doing, and a trade school can't teach someone to be a mechanic.
Your a hypocrite and two statements from your post prove it.
If he has these motors, so be it. But don't knock trade schools. Everyones gotta start somewhere.
SparkinNparkin 2 years ago
i go to high school duh
carbpumper 2 years ago
that's O.K. if you go to high school...just make sure you make ALOT of money in your life, then you can work on Hot Rods AND get your every day things done too...
50shotrods 2 years ago
them sounds like RACIN WURDS to me!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
Wasn't knocking trade schools! You don't seem to get it! OK I'll spell it out for you.
Red Ram Hemis have something that most modern engines do not have. Things like points, and carburetors, and such. It is highly unlikely that your normal every day trade school teaches much about these things because we're dealing with something that is fifty years old!
For that you need somebody that's got some time under the hood!
I've got nothing against technicians! But you've got to pay your dues!
saludahead 2 years ago
HEY EVERYONE LISTON TO THIS GUY hes got the right idea. i live in wyoming where theres more cattle than people and more junkyards than ranches i could have way more crap if i wanted to im just getting started subscribe to me i will put good vids on
carbpumper 2 years ago
well, git um up here and WE CAN MAKE EM BETTER...
50shotrods 2 years ago
Well I have over 30 of them myself , and my nephew thats 11 has a couple (56' 315 and 58' 392) that I have given him and a Steel body 32 roadster my father gave him so he can have ready for the time he turns 16.
fleetcaretrucks 2 years ago
this is very true the 325 has alot of power on the top and low end because its gotta 4 barrel carb. the 270 on the other hand has a 2 barrel stock and is good at ripping around on the low end
carbpumper 2 years ago
WoW, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERING ADOPTING ANOTHER SON...I HAPPEN TO KNOW A GUY...
50shotrods 2 years ago
COME ON...NO CYBER-BOXING or EXTREME KEY-BOARDING HERE...our liability won't cover it...
50shotrods 2 years ago
LONG LIVE KING HEMI
HEMIdoctor 2 years ago
and LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
Where did you get the intake for this?
pilatunes 2 years ago
it's HAND-FABRICATED...
50shotrods 2 years ago
@50shotrods I built the intake for my 151 Pontiac. I like to watch people crap their pants when they see a hand made intake :)
jacktheripped 5 months ago
Strictly speaking, the sign on the wall is not correct. The ONLY Red Ram Hemi was the 241 cid engine from 1953 & '54. All other Red Rams were Poly motors untill the Wedge engine in 1959.
The D500 [Hemi] was the 315 from 1956 or the 325 from 1957.
There is NO SUCH THING as a Red Ram D500 Hemi.
KB10GL 2 years ago
SORRY FOR THE ERROR...IT IS A D-44...
50shotrods 2 years ago
That is really nice!
phreak7521 2 years ago
THANKS!
50shotrods 2 years ago
Damm! Nearly shook the engine right off the table!!!
mrbinfv 2 years ago
i can't get enough of this!
40HDmine 2 years ago
DON'T WORRY...THERE'LL BE MORE!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
Sound quality sucks!
JoeCoolJT 3 years ago
TURN UP YOUR HEARING AID!!!
50shotrods 2 years ago
i think it idles to high
Tyler28125 3 years ago
Were you ever at the drags in the 50's or 60's??? That's how they idled them so there was no hesitation off the line...and it's got a roller cam, which takes some of the "lopiness" out of the cam sound...
50shotrods 2 years ago
@Tyler28125 yea, go ahead and idle it slower on nitromethane and an early injection system. After you pick the valves out of your nostrils, tell me all about it.
Polybun 1 year ago
Nice engine, thanks for the video
nocrap62 3 years ago
GLAD WE CAN HELP...
50shotrods 2 years ago