thats the beta version of l4d1 that was origannly going to be used instead of the characters you see in it today but since valve wanted to make the characters look like people you would see in an average area they changed them.
I still love playing L4D1... I love playing L4D2 as well. I also love playing Killing Floor and about 40 other games regularly.
L4D is my first greatest love and I will always play it, along with the hundreds of other people who keep it alive, no matter what other games I am doing at any time.
I'm never without partners on it - friends or randoms - anyone who says it's dead just doesn't pay it enough attention any more. Probably calls it fat and ugly too and says its cooking is shit.
dhat looks lik zoey , francis , and luis but hold up dha old man looks lik bill didn't they kill bill in Left 4 Dead 2??? i dnt believe Left 4 Dead 3 is comin anytime soon this is a fake.... AND Y DNT THEY WANT LEFT 4 DEAD TO COME OUT FOR PS3 !?
@ephilath L4D1 is nearly dead because the entirety of L4D1 was added to L4D2 in free updates. There's absolutely no reason to play L4D1 unless you never bought number 2.
L4D2 expands on what L4D1 was, adding more content in order to make gameplay more varied and exciting.
3 more special infected, a new grenade type, many new guns and the addition of melee weapons, improved graphics and HUD, and ontop of all that you get the entire L4D1 campaign free along with it.
@frazmfc7 The last paragraph says 3, and if you use inferring knowledge, you can point out that he means L4D3. He just didn't type all of it, just 3 because he already said L4D1 and L4D2 and he said 3 so its in chronological order
@Gosgosgosu but where theres the pros, theres the cons. They tuned down the hunters pounce, and the range for smokers and boomers to. Also, if you notice it, the ammo for shotguns have been tuned down alot. They even messed with the shoving abit to. I get what ur saying, but L4D2 can get a little better I hope.
Honestly, they look like descendants of the original survivors from L4D1. The only difference is that Bill would have a relative, not a descendant, hence the reason there's an old military guy there. It does look fairly legitimate though.
ummmmmmmm... yea its 2012... an also they said "hope to have fun next year" or something close to that, i said that to my viewers last new years and the one before and uh... i didnt do any new shit. so uh good... fucking job on the prediction.PS: stop getting worped up about small things that some famous people (and/or) person says.
i dont think ther will be an l4d3 cuz valve haz from all the games they made a verion 1&2 but never a version 3 ? (exapt G mod) and ther never waven whas a TF1 so thats why i dont think they would make an L4D3
@barboosa1989 RROD is only a problem for very early Xbox's most of the one's that are going to break have already broken, it's not like the new ones suffer from the same problem.
I'm getting sick of fanboys posting gay shit like this, like the spasticstation 3 didn't have massive problems too, and PS3 owners moved over to the Xbox in droves when playstation network went down for a week because a lot of accounts got hacked.
Btw I own both consoles and only use the PS3 for bluray and Uncharted.
@mrawsomefromDK Bill is dead mate... (very sad I know) the picture is the original drawings of the L4D1 survivors (Bill and Zoey made the cut). Francis was originally meant to be a larger biker type, but they probably figured if he was fat, he wouldn't survive (Zombieland Rule: Cardio!) and Louis's background story was changed to be an IT/Computer help desk type which prompted a redraw of his character (not 100% on that but you get the idea). Anyway that's why Bill is in the pic!
and these are pictures of what the survivers were origonal going to look like but they decided that the survivers from left 4 dead would be what you would typicly see in a zombie invasion.
No its not on the way for they never announced it yet. But RE6 is coming and it looks bloody epic. No offense L4D fans for I love L4D too and im wishing & hoping that L4D3 will come before 2013. Hopefully a way hotter chick just like Zoey.
Uhm, it was just a rumor. Valve is just now thinking about left 4 dead 3 and their main thought is whether the screamer/siren should be in it. They want to make it easier on survivors because if it runs while attracting horde, it would be difficult to kill. I think it should just run around in circles. Or a black haired witch that would scream, attract horde and stay in the same place?
Those are the beta charecters from the first left for dead so in other words the charecter designs before they have te ones they have now any one can Tell that it's tem or should be able to tell it's them your an idiot if ya can't. By the way it's 2012 and still nthing Srry ppl who were stupid enough to think it was real.
Here is the Truth Valve Is Not going to make a L4D3 Because they dont know how to count to 3 there is no Half life 3 and there will be no L4D3 there will be a new DLC Like the comment so everyone can see this plz
i dont think there will be a left 4 dead 3 because one character has to die in the second one. the level where someone has to dies is called the 'sacrifice' :) But... there might be 4 more characters.... ;)
i dont think there is going to be a left for dead 3. it wouldve come out right after the second one? besides i thought the story line basically ended at left 4 dead 2. i love ellis -purrs- xD
that was going to be the original look for the left 4 dead 1 characters thats what they were look like originaly but valve changed the looks. Its not the characters for left 4 dead 3
l4d3 can't have bill cause hese dead
SDAwesomeness 2 weeks ago
there wont be a l4d3 because valve cant count to 3
silverserpent100 2 weeks ago
@silverserpent100 lol nice!
iceblaster9000 2 weeks ago
fake
cupcakeekacpuc 2 weeks ago
too many things wrong with this video to specify each and everyone
gernade86 2 weeks ago
thats the beta for the first game
robdawgpwnsu43e 2 weeks ago
bill came back
SushiLoveYou2 2 weeks ago
Dumass thats the beta picture of L4D
GreenFlame44 2 weeks ago
retarted video!!!!!
tobyrocks24 2 weeks ago
hey bill is dead man
RoxasHaz 2 weeks ago
that when l4d came out but it had a big update so that francis zoey bill louis
poo91369 2 weeks ago
i see zoey francis bill and that other one but these have like diffrent skins and crap
eevbro 2 weeks ago
your a fuckin idiot and those were the original character design for left 4 dead 1
bloodsrthebest 2 weeks ago
Wait, did Bill die in the first one or something? because i've heard alot about Bill being dead
skelzonefire 2 weeks ago
@skelzonefire yeah in the passing he died its a addon for l4d1
thesuperrandomguy123 2 weeks ago
@thesuperrandomguy123 Oh I played that but i don't remember Bill dying:L meh XD
skelzonefire 2 weeks ago
@skelzonefire you can see his dead body and i meant addon for l4d2
thesuperrandomguy123 2 weeks ago
thats fake and bills dead you MORON
jameshostetter99 2 weeks ago
thats the beta version of l4d1 that was origannly going to be used instead of the characters you see in it today but since valve wanted to make the characters look like people you would see in an average area they changed them.
Final Comment: YOUR AN IDIOT
Left4DeadLOVER101 2 weeks ago
when did bill come back
Mrgreenmonkey2410 2 weeks ago
the caracters are based on the l4d 1 caracters
serge01roos 2 weeks ago
lol bill died on the sacrifice how is he in the new 1
Theartoon1 2 weeks ago
the like bar got horny
soulstarcicle 3 weeks ago
Lol - Louis looks like he should be screaming "WAAALLLTTT!!!" and running round a jungle looking fo' his boy.
TehSaccade 3 weeks ago
Zoe's ass is nicer and she looks cuter in these pics than in any of the L4D games out atm...
TehSaccade 3 weeks ago
I still love playing L4D1... I love playing L4D2 as well. I also love playing Killing Floor and about 40 other games regularly.
L4D is my first greatest love and I will always play it, along with the hundreds of other people who keep it alive, no matter what other games I am doing at any time.
I'm never without partners on it - friends or randoms - anyone who says it's dead just doesn't pay it enough attention any more. Probably calls it fat and ugly too and says its cooking is shit.
TehSaccade 3 weeks ago
these survivors ware the l4d1 survivors in development
MrCod10ify 3 weeks ago
dhat looks lik zoey , francis , and luis but hold up dha old man looks lik bill didn't they kill bill in Left 4 Dead 2??? i dnt believe Left 4 Dead 3 is comin anytime soon this is a fake.... AND Y DNT THEY WANT LEFT 4 DEAD TO COME OUT FOR PS3 !?
TheMikeymike783 3 weeks ago
Left For Dead 3 Is On It's Way Because My Friends Cousin Works At Valve And We Had To Pay Him To Spill The Beans, Can't Wait!
wanderwhathappend 3 weeks ago
wo wo wo dose characters are almost sam as the first l4d
ciink2 3 weeks ago
@ciink2 They are the L4D1 characters, the picture was taken in closed beta.
MetroArtyom2033 3 weeks ago
Nope Valve is to stupid to figure out whats after 2 sir lol
EpicGaming115 3 weeks ago
hotter zoey = PROFIT
jkl3126 3 weeks ago
the music is weird it fades back and in
MegaGEARSMASTER 3 weeks ago
Guys The Pic Is From The Game Of The Year Edition Of Left 4 Dead Atleast Thats What I Think
CastleCrashersFTW1 3 weeks ago
well i hope left 4 dead 3 comes out ill be the first one ine line the first min that i hear about best zombie game ever
hardLivingXXX 3 weeks ago
why da fuck is bill in der i thought he died!>:0
flyingboomer10101 3 weeks ago
Seems legit.
banshee1231 3 weeks ago
Dude thers just one thing i dont get how is bill going to be in the 3rd on if he DIES in the 2nd one ??
6710tina 3 weeks ago
there will not be any other l4d. forget it.
and if it comes it must be even worse than l4d2. 1 is still the best, sadly its nearly dead.
ephilath 3 weeks ago
@ephilath L4D1 is nearly dead because the entirety of L4D1 was added to L4D2 in free updates. There's absolutely no reason to play L4D1 unless you never bought number 2.
L4D2 expands on what L4D1 was, adding more content in order to make gameplay more varied and exciting.
3 more special infected, a new grenade type, many new guns and the addition of melee weapons, improved graphics and HUD, and ontop of all that you get the entire L4D1 campaign free along with it.
WTF is wrong with you?
Gosgosgosu 3 weeks ago 7
@Gosgosgosu how do you get the L4D1 campaign on L4D2 for free?
frazmfc7 3 weeks ago
@frazmfc7 He said in L4D3 you'll get it dummy
xXgAvInArNoLdXx 3 weeks ago
@xXgAvInArNoLdXx no he didnt you dummy
frazmfc7 3 weeks ago
@frazmfc7 The last paragraph says 3, and if you use inferring knowledge, you can point out that he means L4D3. He just didn't type all of it, just 3 because he already said L4D1 and L4D2 and he said 3 so its in chronological order
xXgAvInArNoLdXx 2 weeks ago
@Gosgosgosu but where theres the pros, theres the cons. They tuned down the hunters pounce, and the range for smokers and boomers to. Also, if you notice it, the ammo for shotguns have been tuned down alot. They even messed with the shoving abit to. I get what ur saying, but L4D2 can get a little better I hope.
thehottestgamer 2 weeks ago
@Gosgosgosu People still play L4D.
Jeezery 2 weeks ago
@Gosgosgosu A lot of people still play L4D1 don't hate.
e3IZrZ 2 weeks ago
@Gosgosgosu u dont get the whole campaign. u get no mercy.
MattV413 2 weeks ago
their are all the same there iz zoi in difrent outfit and francis whit more hair and lois vhit hair and difrent close
Igor98989898 3 weeks ago
It's 2012 now, sadly it hasn't came out yet. But Great idea! :)
sian973 3 weeks ago
Honestly, they look like descendants of the original survivors from L4D1. The only difference is that Bill would have a relative, not a descendant, hence the reason there's an old military guy there. It does look fairly legitimate though.
ZenZudokai 3 weeks ago
if this is l4d3 why da hell is bill there? isn't he dead in l4d1? -.-'' ^*fake*
TheMikeAndLucas 3 weeks ago
@TheMikeAndLucas
Hes in l4d2..
Arnucis112 3 weeks ago
ummmmmmmm... yea its 2012... an also they said "hope to have fun next year" or something close to that, i said that to my viewers last new years and the one before and uh... i didnt do any new shit. so uh good... fucking job on the prediction.PS: stop getting worped up about small things that some famous people (and/or) person says.
H0T13MAN 3 weeks ago
Thats the beta fucktard.
bubbanole91 3 weeks ago
zoey and bill and that tuff guy but whoo the hell is the black one it should be ellis
gcf3100 3 weeks ago
@gcf3100 louis
HorrorRiffic 3 weeks ago
they just moddified the characters
from l4d1 and if you look at the old guy its basicly bill and the tatoo guy look slightly like francice
lakletakle 3 weeks ago
Wow, he meant do forget to thumbs down, comment, and leave. :PP
Tj12317 3 weeks ago
those are the people fom l4d bata fool
140Eliya 3 weeks ago
Wow. LIES! One thing I know for a fact is, that L4D3 isn't going to have L4D1 characters in it!
BILL DIED.
Soooooo ur wrong!
lindajeanrules1213 3 weeks ago
@lindajeanrules1213 they might have them with a new char
fredsuperawsome 3 weeks ago
um...Bill died XD
101kittygalore 3 weeks ago
that is the l4d 1 charathers in beta version!
Durtysoda 3 weeks ago
its 2012 now and its not released -.-
XxZigZeroxX 3 weeks ago
i dont think ther will be an l4d3 cuz valve haz from all the games they made a verion 1&2 but never a version 3 ? (exapt G mod) and ther never waven whas a TF1 so thats why i dont think they would make an L4D3
THEfocckers 3 weeks ago
i laugh when people get red ring of death on xbox thats why i have ps3
barboosa1989 3 weeks ago
@barboosa1989 i laugh when PSN gets shut down by hackers
a13ozdrpepper 3 weeks ago
@barboosa1989
I laugh when PS3 has no games.
kiwirar 3 weeks ago
@barboosa1989 RROD is only a problem for very early Xbox's most of the one's that are going to break have already broken, it's not like the new ones suffer from the same problem.
I'm getting sick of fanboys posting gay shit like this, like the spasticstation 3 didn't have massive problems too, and PS3 owners moved over to the Xbox in droves when playstation network went down for a week because a lot of accounts got hacked.
Btw I own both consoles and only use the PS3 for bluray and Uncharted.
Seladoor 3 weeks ago 4
@Seladoor Well, the PSN didn't go down for a week, it went down for 2 and 1/2 months.
jmjmjm97 3 weeks ago
@barboosa1989 Just wait till you get the yellow light.
TheOutbreakofLocusts 3 weeks ago
thjis is real my brother is an valve worker and its not bill the characters names are john ,mike ,devyn,and racheal
IKIDLEOI 3 weeks ago
se ve muy interesante!
lococircuito 3 weeks ago
como se llama la cansion
drocosmico 3 weeks ago
this is beta L4D
mrlolz223 3 weeks ago
hey bill is dead how can bill be alive if he died in left 4 dead 1 how?
mrawsomefromDK 3 weeks ago
@mrawsomefromDK Bill is dead mate... (very sad I know) the picture is the original drawings of the L4D1 survivors (Bill and Zoey made the cut). Francis was originally meant to be a larger biker type, but they probably figured if he was fat, he wouldn't survive (Zombieland Rule: Cardio!) and Louis's background story was changed to be an IT/Computer help desk type which prompted a redraw of his character (not 100% on that but you get the idea). Anyway that's why Bill is in the pic!
Xenomeister 3 weeks ago
cuando saleeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dairsito 3 weeks ago
franceis is fat O-O
tylerpet555 3 weeks ago
see Left 4 Dead wiki
LegendAdi99 3 weeks ago
this is not Left 4 Dead 3 you lier it's beta version of Left 4 Dead one
LegendAdi99 3 weeks ago
can not wait to play left for dead 3
danger1087 3 weeks ago
i like da song IB3
BrickSkillProduction 3 weeks ago
Bill is Die.
NiqthCooper 3 weeks ago
why is it not here
caca20149 3 weeks ago
I Like this song :3
SibexOfficial 3 weeks ago
i saw bill and zoey
ZEULKI569 3 weeks ago
they are thinking on how the story would work that dosent man thy arnt making a new one. oh and what about xbox
armymancommander1 3 weeks ago
it might come out in november 2012
salsounthavong 3 weeks ago
its not left 4 dead 3 lol its the old art of classic bill louis zoey adn bill
menofduke 3 weeks ago
I know this is a fake but it stil beutiful that they think that Bill is alive and if he is then he is the most hardcore man EVER
SIRKIRBY111 3 weeks ago
OMG! HELL YEAH!
yoad3001 4 weeks ago
thats the first version of l4d, they only changed the character skins later on the process
eman3429 4 weeks ago
LIE cause bill died
Kgetitgreen 4 weeks ago
its fake that's a mod
jager11599 4 weeks ago
left 4 dead characerts fater and more more hair lol
jrprevost 4 weeks ago
I Want
L4D 3
Bully 2
calamorta 4 weeks ago
just louis and bill being the usual bad asses
malcolmosih101 4 weeks ago
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malcolmosih101 4 weeks ago
dont you know already, VALVE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO COUNT TO THREE, but we love them anyhow :P
TheAndroidNerd 4 weeks ago
screw left for dead 3 get half life done
huntmbrocks 4 weeks ago
the 4 in left 4 dead means they r making 4 games and bill wont be in it he died in the passing
suitelifelover495 4 weeks ago
Louis look like AN BOSS
MrRussian194 4 weeks ago
@MrRussian194 too bad its not louis
BostonSecret45 4 weeks ago
These four are the original concepts on Zoey, Louis, Bill and Francis. They are not new.
MalcADHD 4 weeks ago
fake
brainman67 4 weeks ago
@brainman67 thats what she said :D
yes1sir1no1sir 4 weeks ago
i hate it
ytp786 4 weeks ago
no
ytp786 4 weeks ago
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
ytp786 4 weeks ago
fuckin awesome
ytp786 4 weeks ago
Fail troll is fail.
simulation911 4 weeks ago
wt?
jburke224 4 weeks ago
Well that didnt happen!!
10InchSnow 4 weeks ago
Stupid...
Krillitane100 4 weeks ago
JUMPS UP IF YOUR WATCHING THIS INS 2012
josephquijano64 4 weeks ago
1.Louis should be bald
2.Bill is dead ;(
2 mistakes
lewskar4eto 4 weeks ago
and these are pictures of what the survivers were origonal going to look like but they decided that the survivers from left 4 dead would be what you would typicly see in a zombie invasion.
pimpmanisslim99 1 month ago
i dont think so because it already 2012 i think they were refering to the passing and the sacrifice DLC
pimpmanisslim99 1 month ago
i think your retarded.for one,BILL HAS DIED!2.when was the last time you saw a third l4d game?and 3...need i say more?
Left4Portal2 1 month ago
Dude, you think we are idiots? YOU JUST GAVE FRANCAISE HAIR AND LOUIS A FRO.
xXRoboticPotatoXx 1 month ago
Lol, The guy who have a lot of hair got replaced with Francis.
MegaOsuGamer 1 month ago
*bill dies* U FAILED!
TheCoolpreston 1 month ago
Thumbs up if ur watching in 2012
rapidgamer1234 1 month ago
@rapidgamer1234 just stop. really..
vandals989 1 month ago
THATS JUST A FRIKEN MOD!!!
SuperRobloxman1 1 month ago
a different name or somtin just let it come out
rayray4981 1 month ago
i hope it comes out
rayray4981 1 month ago
we knew it's fake yet we clicked it
ami2tar7 1 month ago
fuck this fake man you suck my dick ? you like? like!? entao vai se fuder que vc tb nao sabe que tem gente que tem o que faze
risadacerta 1 month ago
Уебан
dartonian19 1 month ago
this picture was from L4D when they were making the game
SpaceFox428 1 month ago
No its not on the way for they never announced it yet. But RE6 is coming and it looks bloody epic. No offense L4D fans for I love L4D too and im wishing & hoping that L4D3 will come before 2013. Hopefully a way hotter chick just like Zoey.
truearea53 1 month ago
by my calculates it would take 12 years 5 months and 3 days untill they (valve) release Left For Dead 3
gaterin1998 1 month ago
The guys from LFD1 found a McDonalds ^^
GianBlacksta 1 month ago
Uhm, it was just a rumor. Valve is just now thinking about left 4 dead 3 and their main thought is whether the screamer/siren should be in it. They want to make it easier on survivors because if it runs while attracting horde, it would be difficult to kill. I think it should just run around in circles. Or a black haired witch that would scream, attract horde and stay in the same place?
RavenUchiha1313 1 month ago
Haha, your wrong. PS3 owns XBOX and PC.
catlover444RBX 1 month ago
@catlover444RBX The ps3 may be better than the xbox, but theres no way a console could ever beat the PC, and theres really no arguement otherwise.
boringdude72 1 month ago
@boringdude72 Yes, PC might be better then PS3, but comparing XBOX and PC, PC is FTW!
catlover444RBX 1 month ago
@catlover444RBX yeah because people on PC can cheat with their console so thats why i dont play PC cause its full of cheaters
gamemaster1045 1 month ago
@catlover444RBX Nope Xbox is way better then Ps3 will ever be
coubie200 1 month ago
@coubie200 PS3 and XBOX are defiantly better then you and be better forever.
catlover444RBX 1 month ago
@catlover444RBX Nope piss off
coubie200 1 month ago
@coubie200 You are a smart person
gamemaster1045 1 month ago
@gamemaster1045 Yeah I am thank you for saying that
coubie200 1 month ago
@catlover444RBX Okay but how many times has PS3 been hacked and they supported SOPA so therefore PS3 is so fucking gay
gamemaster1045 1 month ago
Those are simply the pre-models of all the Left 4 Dead characters. Back when the game was no more than a test, a project.
SymptomCownage 1 month ago
lol cant be L4D3, bill is dead by this point, he dies in Sacrifice
MewtwoKurosaki 1 month ago
@MewtwoKurosaki might have been revived by the shock thing that brings people to life in l4d2 at the 3rd map on hard rain
SuperMario6600 1 month ago
hes using l4d old character skins :p
BustyPikachuAction 1 month ago
wew this left 4 dead 3 is fake
MrPussoy123 1 month ago
those are the guys from left 4 dead they just have modificacions
clawss93 1 month ago
these were the rough creations of the characters in L4D1 b4 they were actually announced
DEMONofDRUMZ 1 month ago
Bill died in left 4 dead 2 i say him dead in a house with his m16A4 in hes hand
fruityrobo0d 1 month ago
801 people have got a PS3 and wont be playing L4D3
Pr1nc3y1 1 month ago
Those are the beta charecters from the first left for dead so in other words the charecter designs before they have te ones they have now any one can Tell that it's tem or should be able to tell it's them your an idiot if ya can't. By the way it's 2012 and still nthing Srry ppl who were stupid enough to think it was real.
SharpStudio2000 1 month ago
Cool Louis must have saved Bill with the defibrilator . Thumbs up for fucking defibrilator.
Charles163NFS 1 month ago
Here is the Truth Valve Is Not going to make a L4D3 Because they dont know how to count to 3 there is no Half life 3 and there will be no L4D3 there will be a new DLC Like the comment so everyone can see this plz
xNzPxPuNk 1 month ago
@xNzPxPuNk
they didn't even make a "Meet the Pyro" (Pyro is class slot #3 in TF2)! And there's no Team Fortress 3
jackle86 1 month ago
they have diffrent skins
bomm1200 1 month ago
-pause video
-look at rate bar
-look at comments
-watch another video
Looneykid2011 1 month ago 2
i dont think there will be a left 4 dead 3 because one character has to die in the second one. the level where someone has to dies is called the 'sacrifice' :) But... there might be 4 more characters.... ;)
sk8tepenguinz 1 month ago
i dont think there is going to be a left for dead 3. it wouldve come out right after the second one? besides i thought the story line basically ended at left 4 dead 2. i love ellis -purrs- xD
theSugarBabyx 1 month ago
that was going to be the original look for the left 4 dead 1 characters thats what they were look like originaly but valve changed the looks. Its not the characters for left 4 dead 3
SkilledPenguin25 1 month ago
The louis and zoey models look like Michael and Alex from Lost.
xAirer 1 month ago
Bill is dead, bitch.
AroniusMaximusPS3 1 month ago
Gay video+gay+music gay username=uber faggot
Potchama67 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
original skin ideas for Louis, Francis, Zoey, Bill
MrNeonTape 1 month ago
Oh Yeah dude.. ITS 2012!!!
MegaWilliam20 1 month ago
best music
wbenw1 1 month ago
darth vader wants his lightsaber back lol
flashbang456 1 month ago
....FAKE! valve can't count to 3! jk it didn't happen in 2011 but it might in 2012
bambamkim2120 1 month ago
those skins were supose to be for l4d but they changed the skins i kinda think that they should of kept the skins that way instead of changing them
Sonnybear7 1 month ago
One the top comment the 1st one i dont know if i should thumbs up, or thumbs down??
boomer6711 1 month ago