July 1st Hong Kong Democracy March 1.7.07

[mckln]

While we're at it; the serious case of oppression is a matter of culture; that is - playing into stereotypes - when people teach for procedure, and not for effectiveness, and then someone instead of obsequiously teaching by the exact book, tries to teach for effectiveness, it won't be the Communist Party, but verily your administrators and colleagues shall heap scorn lustily upon you. Think about the relationship between Jesus and the Pharisees. Jesus deviated from the Jewish curriculum.

[ahlan3g]

前幾年民主派大吵大鬧爭取 0708 普選，結果人大釋法否決 0708 迫使喬老爺來港做騷 解釋人大粗暴否決 0708 的理據 香港才暫時安靜下來。

現在泛民在陳老太的領導下 又搞搞震 要求 2012 雙普選 他們聲大夾惡 連文革曾也要在報告直指過半數香港市民支持 2012 雙普選......

看來喬老爺又快來港做騷了 解釋人大否決 2012 的理據

[sleex07]

Thanks for recording the demonstration. We have been marching for a better system for HK since 2003. There could be certain fragmented marching objectives. It is exactly that we need a working system - universal suffrage to voice out different people's needs. RTHK is very much worth marching for this year because 95% of news media is already controlled by China after 97.

[mckln]

I agree. Though there are many causes, each has its merits to express in a democracy. I certainly don't want the right to assemble and the right to free speech to be smothered as totalitarian China creeps over the territory!

[popoTb]

95% of HK media control by the CHinese gov't ?? where the hell did you get that idea from? Oh my god!

lol i am glad that only 99 viewings of this video !! who cares! i feel very free in HK. I dont feel oppressed at all!

[Judyzhu84]

I think you are right!

HK are HK people's HK

[mckln]

Have you tried working in a school as a teacher and trying to teach against the government-mandated curriculum? You may develop a serious case of oppression!

[popoTb]

LOL can you tell me which nation doesn't mandate - currculum?

Oh and please ... while you are at it! Advocate for western nations to teach in their schools the history of the OPIUM WAR and the Boxer WAR!! I never learned that in High school (Canada). Why is that??

If you are naive enough to believe that the world is perfect - especially western world - lol ...... you fool!!

[mckln]

Try not to flame.

Our educational experiences are different because at least in the United States, districts and states set curricula; I'm not sure how curricula is set in Canada. I l have earned more about Chinese history in my public high school, as well as in my university, than, I conjecture, most of the kids that I have taught in Hong Kong will ever learn; but, let me emphasize that teaching the material isn't the same as learning it.

[popoTb]

I think many HOng KONg people, especially those that went to the west for education back in the 70's 80's - have become to "Gua LO" and have lost their CHINESE PRIDE!!! HOng KOng's freedom is unique on earth! Complains are understandable - any place or country has blaming citizens - let alone Hong Kong! But to think that Hong KOng is not FREE enough is an ignorant greedy blinded and fictional thought!! Hong Kong excerise the highest form of Freedom on earth!

[Alias1983]

The reason why you don't feel oppressed is because the CCP is changing HK's rules slowly. You have a system to run under for 50 years. But year by year the CCP will change the odd couple laws here and there and eventually HK will become no different than the Chinese mainland system itself. Very few HK people will notice. The other reason why you don't feel oppressed is because you probably are one of the upper class people with alot of money.

[popoTb]

Well I think its time to smack those Martin Lee loving Hong Kongers and tell them that HK has returned to CHina! YOU are no longer some colonial bastard with no identity. You are CHinese! And you should be Proud of who you are! HOng KOng in my mind (having lived in Canada for more then 20 years) is the most FREE place on earth! One can even bitch at a police in HK - try bitching at a COP/police in Canada see what will happen to you!

Its sad that I "Oversea HKer" is more patriotic then .... u

[Alias1983]

First of all, who the hell is Martin Lee? Second of all, some Chinese mainland citizens would actually insist that mainland China is the most FREE place on earth. Third of all, I have bitched at a cop in Canada before. See me? Standing here? Main problem with Canada is that they over-tax you.

[popoTb]

I thought you were from Hong kOng! Lol... I was wrong! Martin Lee was a member of parliament in HK.

[Alias1983]

And one more thing. You have no need to be angry at people in the western world. Wanna know why? Because most people in Canada, USA, Britian, Australia would actually agree with what ever CCP does. CCP kills people at Tiananmen square? Most of my people don't care. CCP puts pressure on Taiwan? Guess what? Most westerners support China. Go to mainland China where there's alot of foreigners. Talk with them about the Taiwan issue. Most will agree with you Taiwan is part of PRC.

[popoTb]

GOOD then i rest my case!! But let me be clear that i have nothing against westerns ! As I myself grew up in Canada!

OH and yeah ... i wouldn't care more for the American freeing of the slave in the 1800's or when white americans were torturing them Black slaves! So i guess .. why would AMericans or westerns care about the history of China - and the 5000 years of it?? Haha

[Alias1983]

Well I'm glad you don't have anything against westerners. But you ask why we care about China's history? Well alot of people like China and to some of us it's interesting to learn. There are some of us who don't care about China's history of course. And with your comment on black people being slaves? Guess what? The western media and educational system only teaches what white people did to no whites. Anti racism is just another term for anti white. But few of us realise it in the west.

[residentfan2]

You had to repeat that???

[herifuzhenguan2]

I always feel sick when you call yourself a patriot. your so-called patriotism is only your vanity. It is totally a disgrace and shame! Stop "loving" China! You selfish, ignorant, naive, vain and hypocrite fascist are not qualified to be called "Chinese" at all! If you love censorship and propaganda so much, PLEASE f--k with them at home. Do not do it in front of people! China needs real patriot like me!

[popoTb]

True - money is freedom in any country!!

[popoTb]

LOL any person in poverty in any country on earth feels oppression and mistreated!! Ask a person who is living in the ghettos in AMerican if they feel oppressed or not!!