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  • This guy is a dooche, zunes are just crap

  • whats the song

  • Just buy an MP3 player and listen to your music on it! No one cares which one you have! Stop griping about the opposing company your whining isn't going to stop Apple making iPods or Microsoft stop making Zunes!

    Getting all fanboy over your product only opens you up to awesome parodies like this one.

  • this is a retarded explanation of the zune. it has something like 6.2 million songs and microsoft wrote the code

  • lol, fanboy flame wars. the new zune HD is pretty cool though :P

  • notice how he has all types of ipods and only one zune, he most likely put his ipods through all those senarios he mentioned. geez

  • Those things on his shelf are called books.  That's what bookshelves are built and manufactured for.

  • I've always wondered. Where is the original?

  • The original used to be on You tube, but the guy in the video who posted it has since removed it. Probably due to embarrassment. His website is also gone.

  • Nice song choice. Hip.

  • Who made the original anyway?

  • What an Idiot!

  • golf?

  • All I like about the Zune is the interface. And not every iPod owner buys one for their own self-worth. I hate that stereotype.

    Anyway, that was beautiful shitting on the fanboy. Thank you.

  • how you wanna use the ipod as external harddrive?

  • I have an iPod Nano 3G, and it didnt crash on new years eve.

  • get a zune mp3

  • that was funny

  • Fuck You

  • I just want to know, which one of Zune or Ipod lets me own more the music (excuse me my English vocabulary is not that extensive) I mean, which one makes me feel I own the music, lets me do more whatever I want to do with them, and explain me why.

  • zune is microsoft and is heavily DRM'ed meaning they could make your music not play if you wanted.

    ipod is apple not much better but it can run linux and has a more of you own it feel.

    though i can't decide for you ultimately it is how you feel when using them.

    i suggest you find a friend with a ipod and another with a zune or one with both and try them both out to see which one suits you better.

  • i mean Microsoft could make it not play if they wanted. (typo)

  • apple is just better at Micro$oft when it comes to these things most ppl only own a windows os cuz its what almost all computers you buy come with.

    that is not to say the zune is bad its just not as good as the i pod its way more technologically advanced(ipod touch).

    i pods sleeves are to keep it from getting scratched not to dress it up.

    you think the zune doesn't have those?

    i have seen sleeves for them at wal mart as well.

    the man in this vid is a utter idiot nuff said.

  • better than micro$oft*(typo)

  • but dude of course the touch is better but everyone is mostly comparing it to ipod 80g and zune 80g thats the only thing they re comparing cus they have the same amount of memory and almost the same but a little different

  • Zune has a glass screen (ie. very hard to scratch). Actually, I've dropped my Zune twice and I've had it for a few months... no scratches at all yet. With my Ipod, just wiping the screen with my shirt sleeve left some very fine scratches in it; not with Zune, though. Plus the screen is much bigger tan Ipod. :D

  • my friend dropped his zune and it broke. 0_0

    though screen size doesn't bother me all that much it's not like you have to squint to see video or something.

    as long as i can use the device for what i want to mainly music i don't need to be distracted by videos on my ipod while going to work or to the store and such that's a bit to distracting.

  • pure pwnage :)

  • rofl thats amazing that guy got bashed really bad, i dont think i want to pay 15 a month for something that is inoficient as Microsofts Zune , i was going to get a zune but i stopped my self. the zune is mostly a fashion trend that is going to become a phailed project. pass the lmao. XD

  • over a billion songs sold on itunes - cant be wrong surly? the truth is that apple is cool and all their products are intuitive and look awesome, whereas Microsoft is for that think they know better twats

  • And solskim11, Apple never wanted the monopoly, Steve has stated that in like 1992 (or 94, I don't remember). He admitted Microsoft had won the PC wars, but Apple prefered it that way.

  • why would you use an ipod as an external harddrive in the first place.

  • look at the sats on computers. geez i wonder who sells more

    considering microsoft has 96% and apple has 4%

  • Pretty funny considering I've seen ZERO PCs with Microsoft branding. An OS is NOT the computer, capiche?

  • well, that just means 94% of the population are sheep :-)

    and i can guarantee i feel happier in the knowladge that my imac is not going to blue screen me like shitty arse vista

  • I own the Zune and prefer it over the iPod video. I won't go onto a rant against the iPod, the iPod Touch is sweet, and I would take that over almost all other MP3 players.

    And I think the guy who made this is a Apple Fanboy. I predict a wave of "nukenate you suck" comments. Please don't.

  • I agree with you. I think iPods are really cool. I like my Zune more. Both the person who posted this video and the dude in it are being stupid. Now go out and listen to some live music, that's way better than both.

  • Very good! Thanks to the sounds of Fleetwood Mac, this reminded me of watching VH1's Pop-Up Video :-)

  • You know I was just watching the rant he's got throwing all those iPods around and I just noticed something. I might be a little stupid for not noticing earlier but for a guy who claims to hate iPods and Apple in general he sure has a lot of them. I think I saw a rep. of almost every major type in there.

  • (singin) Tell my lies, tell me sweet little lies. ..woops. sorry. lol.

  • how about this, Ipod and Zune both suck. Have you ever heard of Archos? The Archos 605 is rated the #1 Mp3 player by both Wired magazine and CNet.

  • my friend says u people have no souls for saying these stupid shit

  • Wow I Can't Believe You Did Something Like That It's Not All About What Better(Just Depends On Who U Are) It's About Which Device Fits You I Personally Like The Zune Cuase It Shares Music But That's Wrong For What U Did Wow

  • i also have switched from a ipod to a zune. imo the zune is better...

  • I have a zune and an ipod and the ipod has been in the closet for about a year now zune is much better.

  • This so ruled.

  • congratulations, you've sucessfully made fun of an idiot. Can't believe you wasted time making this, much less uploading it and putting your name on it.

  • lol, who is worst that the guy in the video? The one that made this replay!

  • Great video!

    I know a total of 3 people who own the Zune. Two got them as gifts, the other is a Microsoft fanboy who bought it because Microsoft said to. It died within a month, he sent it in for repairs. What did he get back but a debug model, haha what a great product. Yeah you guys are right, we should all stop hating the Zune because it sucks.

  • no one is forced to buy the brown zune

    there are 4 other colors

  • its not that your forced to buy a brown zune, its the fact that there is a shit brown zune. WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wo decided that shit brown would sell. You can't explain it or defend it, it makes no sense

  • i know what your talking but i think s***! brown color was an accident. if the brown colored zune never came out alot of people wont be making fun of zune. i think red should have came out first. do you have a zune ?

  • i have a crazy malibu car, dam he is so right, i guess the zune is better, maybe i will buy the shit brown zune and join the social.

  • Hey, it just came out last year! Of course people aren't gonna buy it right away!!

  • they bought the IPod right away pretty much

  • cuz everybody has ipod already.

  • I hate how everyone's hating on the zune. I don't personally have one yet, but still. Ur probably saying crap about it because you havent even seen it yet. You probably still own the ipod, so thats why your dissing the zune.

  • Wow this guy is right but not the person who posted this

  • Hahaha this gay I mean guy does not know anything he is saying. but wait.. Microsoft fans are the only ones as stupid as himself to believe it-

  • what I like about the zune is it's cool navigating user inter face!

  • record players are ok but they can't download music

  • i hate my zune. worst decision i ever made

  • There there, unfortunately Apple doesn't have Zune amnesty bins like microsoft does for iPods at the Zune HQ (true story, go google it)

  • Brilliant video. I hate Zune fanboys.

  • Why is that the majority of the worlds population, are using Microsoft Operating systems and Hotmail!! hello? anybody relise that Hotmail or Windows Live Mail is basically Microsoft Mail? does Mac have their own mail?? I don't think so.

  • Well you obviously don't think at all, because apple does indeed have a mail program it's called .mac (pronounced dot-mac)....you're a moron.

  • hahahahahah!! thats funny. are apple trying to compete with hotmail, by making their own email service? bahahahaha! NO ONE HAS FKN HEARD ABOUT .MAC. lykk almost everyone uses hotmail. What kinda name is that anyway - dot-mac. Fkn Apple retards, i just can't wait for the day when the company crashes.

  • yeah judging by its stock it really looks like they are headed for a crash...

  • MICROS~1 sucks, but Apple isn't any better!

  • totally agree

  • Apple sucks with PC games because have very few good ones heh.

  • Maybe that's because they're PC games.... that's why they are on PC's and not macs...

  • wtf? Mac sucks.

  • Oh man, let's get it right for you MS tards...The company is called Apple. They make top range computers that are called Macintosh, Macs for short and they run an OS called OS X (that's 10 not X). There is no company called "Mac". This is a video about an idiot bashing an Apple iPod, who ended up getting owned because he is full of shit...this has nothing to do with Macs...try and keep up with what's going on, it makes you look like less of a an idiot, but only just.

  • it was boring and made no sense

  • Dude...according to you spammers, I've dies 32 times, I've been raped 17 times, and my mom died 11 times. Stop Spamming!!!

  • who cares if the zune is bigger i doubt most of u even run track or any thing with it. and if u do u shouldnt care but to get something light

  • truth is ipods really are shitty

  • serious- i had an ipod crap out on me day ONE, wouldn't start out of the box, had to exchange it for a new one. then a few months later the battery only lasts an hour. it's all hype.

  • Did you ever try charging the iPod, genius?

  • oh nooo i NEVER thought to charge it, hey stupidass- when i say "crap" out, i don't mean there wasn't any power out of the box (which ipods do have), i mean there's a picture of an ipod frowning on the screen. the person at the apple store confirmed it was a dud and exchanged it.

  • Here is the point dunce...You "claim" you got a bad iPod, so questions are as follows...Did apple replace it? You said they did, and after 3 months...you "claim" that the second one wouldn't hold a charge....so did Apple replace that one, because it is still under the one year warranty. Don't tell me that you were to dumb to know that. Point is I think you are lying, it seems like you've never had an iPod, typical windoze loving MS sucking FUD post.

  • You judge a company, when a product fails based not on the product when it is clearly an isolated incident, but on the customer service. I wonder what the failure rate is for the zune...1 for every 10 sold??...well we can only guess, seeing they haven't sold 10 zunes yet. Considering a 100 million iPods have been sold, I am sure Apple is allowed a few "Duds".

  • it's funny how you think people who don't fancy macs are automatic microsoft lovers. the fact is, i don't love windows or mac, cuz i have both a powerbook G4 and a compaq laptop and my experience with my powerbook and my friends' experiences with theirs, don't quite match up to whatever bullsht apple tells people on tv.

  • sure, microsoft sucks cuz they make unappealing stuff but let's get the facts straight: apple lies a LOT in their ad campaigns. windows isn't as bad as they try to make it seem- basically for their TARGET audience, there's nothing you can do on a mac you can't do on a pc and that's the honest truth. so no, i dont judge apple because i bought a single dud ipod, i judge them because they always bluntly say their products are the greatest and really, that's just arrogant.

  • their products aren't the greatest- no onboard song/video organization, no interchangeable battery, no updateable firmware, no radio. this is easy sht that any little $80 korean player comes with and they don't have it? i like my ipod, it's a well designed mp3 player- just don't lie to me that it's the best player out there cuz its not. it sells like pancakes because of aggressive marketing. you ever seen a zune commercial? mmm thought not.

  • You never did a firmware update on your pod? You read the directions or did you find your ipod im someone elses's pocket?

  • and there's no such thing as a microsoft lover. nobody loves windows, nobody gets excited to work on a windows machine. there are, however, mac zombies- who arrogantly think cuz they own apple stuff they're the shit. i own apple stuff, they're good solid products, but i don't think i'm better than someone who has a pc because pc's can do the same exact stuff for cheaper. wake up from the bullshit, apple's just another company wanting to make a buck- no different from any other company.

  • Are you bored...lol.

  • First time I have ever seen a person who prefers quality to be regarded as a zombie. So what do you call those who prefer dogshit, in other words the products that MS puts out? The Microsoft mantra has always been...to quote Dick Jones (Robocop) "Who cares if it works or not!"

  • you just don't get it do you? you don't even realize why i'm calling you a zombie. APPLE DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY = QUALITY, get that in your head. you watch a bunch of commercials and you're completely brainwashed. no company makes quality products all the time- every company comes out with dogshit, example: shuffle. i don't deny that apple makes quality products- i just think it's overly arrogant that apple badmouths the competition is all.

  • and in this case, zune vs. ipod video, zune is the better product cuz it does more out of the box for cheaper. that's just the facts- which so far, you haven't given me any of.

  • haha what'd you do, block me so i can't respond? why don't you stop your whining like a little mac bitch and face the facts- still haven't told me why ipod video is technically better than the zune.

    jalisty sent me a whiny ranting message about how "elite" and superior mac users are to everyone else, then blocked me so i couldn't respond. typical arrogant mac zombie, can't stand to face the truth: zune's better.

  • Steve Jobs will have your soul for those horrible comments!

  • hahah steve jobs could care less about little ol' me- he's already making millions off of other souls. i'll give him some credit- i really like the iphone, i think as a media player, the ipod video doesn't go far enough. but too bad, i can't see myself paying $600 + $60/month for internet with no flash support. if there was no $60/month requirement, i would've bought one already- its a very sweet media player.

  • somebody go kill that asshole wacko

  • So the choice isnt as one-sided and obvious as youd like to make it. I prefer Zune because I just put MP3s and video's on it. Video play back is better, and it has a larger screen, and I just like the overall interface better(personal background)

    and everyone knows popularity =/= good. I mean just because it placed low in a poll does not mean it is bad. Youd be surprised how many good things you dont hear about. (Like the LG alternative to the Iphone)

  • guy who addressed the dude in the video:

    Your points arent direct counters either. The dude in the video is an idiot, yes, but your points lack information too.

    While Itunes has 3 million songs, to access them all, youd have to pay 3 million dollars. You pay .99 cents per song. With the zune, you get access to 2 million songs. ALL 2 million. It all depends on what you want to do with them.

  • mugiwara31 - Who really wants access to all 2 or 3 million songs? I've spent about $800 at the iTunes Store in the past couple of years (the rest of my music is from my CD collection). If I were using a Zune all this time, in 2 years I'd have spent $180 to access those 800 cuts (and more!). Sounds great. Until I stop paying the subscription or Microsoft shifts gears (ever try playing your PlaysForSure purchases on your Zune?). Would you rather rent or own your home?

  • Oh so that's why this guy buyed those iPod's himself -_-. Fucking american. Japan ftw!

  • retard, he told us he's a switcher, which means at one point in time he owned an ipod or two. he didn't just go out and buy them for the purpose of this video.

  • BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

  • the zune sucks...the ipod sucks...Just get the iphone when it comes out :)

  • If you buy an Iphone, your retarded.

    5 hours of battery life for a phone is failure.

    Get the LG model for 400 when it comes out. Same thing really, except 200 dollars cheaper, and 24 hour battery life.

  • The iphone is probably going to kill the zune completely even though it already isn't selling nearly as well as the ipod now.

  • "kill the zune?" G I didn't now the zune fell into the cell-phone category. lol!

  • dude zunes are sweet but seriously both of you have a shitty argument.

    i'd rather have a zune than an ipod, but im not saying ipods arent fuckin sweet. zunes just don't sell as good because bill gates keeps a lower profile than whats-his-name at apple, and they don't advertise as much. out of 5 randomly picked friends that i have, one has nothing, 3 have zunes, and one has an ipod. we just like the things that seem cooler, not the ones that sell better.

  • well done. This guy's an idiot.

  • Commodore 64 is still my favorite!

  • Damn, im glad I saw this video. I was about to buy a zune.

  • I saw this video and I still want to buy a zune. I never owned an iPod, but I would rather have a zune cuz I checked out my brothers friends zune and everything about it is cool! the way it works, the bigger screen, the navigating UI and so on.

  • If this guy hates iPods so much, why in the world does have several of them?

  • I wondering the same thing myself.

  • he's hating it because of the ipod hype. but a music player is a music player.

  • they both suck!! the creative zen vision m is the best player ever!!

  • no they both don't suck! the creative zen vision m and the zune is the best players ever!!

  • Please from now on when you edit video's in a attempt to ridicule one blogger trying to convert people from a cult like fad of idiocy , do so with correct grammar. By the way, apple has had not only almost a decade up on Microsoft experience wise but has drawn ideas from other mp3 player companies. I am not saying the Zune is the greatest right now (although I like it), I just am saying, give it some time.

  • It's a piece of crap tho, have you even used one?

  • He did NOT ridicule a blogger. He corrected an uninformed, Micro-fanatic blogger. And, Apple has drawn ideas from others? There was NO other MP3 player like it when iPod came out. From its cool & handy handling to its smooth & clutter-free software - Innovation at its best. And give Zune some time for what? Remember, iPod didn't get ANY time - It was a hit right from the beginning. Like you said, there were other MP3 players around (ex. previous kings like Creative's Zen?)

  • It was only a hit right at the beginning because The whole "Hard drive Mp3" and innovation that the iPod brought was new and unique and there was nothing else like it and there were no complaints so it had TONS of time to improve, which is has (not by a lot) so when the Zune came out, everyone was expecting the same standards as the NEW iPods so the Zune doesn't have a chance to gain ground at all, so give Zune some time.

  • Oh come on... that's just silly. Microsoft had all the time in the world to observe and improve on currently available technology to best their competition, and in some ways they did. No iPod currently has Wi-Fi. Yes, the market is more saturated for players now, but the idea that the Zune needs time to get better is just nuts. What the Zune needs (besides a better name) is to increase marketshare.

  • I cant understand how anyone can be a iPod fanboy these days. Other than iTunes it is just a generic piece of scroll wheel. I will take my toshiba gigabeat any day. It costs less has a better screen and has better naigation. And don't even claim that Ipod has better nav than Gigabeat or (since ts the same) even Zune. That navy is fucking brilliant.

  • Thank you! Though I agree that the Zune really isn't up-to-scratch when compared to the iPod, it has some potential. A few more tweaks with design (since their marketing is already... "in place", if not absolutely pleasing), and we have a great iPod alternative.

  • It's great what you guys are saying, and if I give a positive look on this contradiction, it's surely always good not to follow the 'mainstream' trends of life (try to be different/stand apart from the flocks). Unfortunately this point can't be true when we talk about a product, Zune, made by a company that 'forces' people using its products (ex. its pre-installed OS on most PCs people buy).

  • Also, by the time I wait for Zune to become a 'great' alternative, don't you think that the leading MP3-player company will have advanced it's own great product, iPod? And if you people are really into 'giving great products a chance', then, have you ever tried an alternative OS, ex. Linux, Mac OS X? What? You got Win XP? Hmmm... Then that defeats the purpose, doesn't it?...

  • Yep, it is only a matter of time before the technology Apple introdiced in the iPhone makes it's way to the market in the form of a wide screen iPod. The Zune will have anoter Wi-Fi capable competitor then, with a multi-touch interface to boot.

  • Ya I love it, they just Zune just started selling and what did Apple do... Ha Ha he he.. I almost fell bad for M$ ( I said almost )

  • "Then that defeats the purpose"? I guess so because I got xp on my home built pc and it runs great...no problems here, and soon will have my cool zune to go with it.

  • Well I believe you but yes iPod has a lot of accesories. :)

  • This is the best and funniest video I have ever seen...

    The only problem is that it was too short. I want more...

  • Holy shit! I didn't really believe what you said about his site, I mean who would really think that? so I went and checked it out. You were right, it's right on his site. What a loon!

  • You look like an ape and you're a dumb ape shit.

  • LOL! Well done!

  • hahahaha dude i love you.

    haha zunes suck penis hair

  • For someone who doesn't like iPods he's got a lot of them.

  • Good point - he's got an iPod mini, a nano, a real iPod and a video iPod

  • LOL WHAT A JOKE

  • awesome awesome video that guy in the video is a retard Apple all the way!

  • This is hilarious. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the original video. This one is much better (although it has at least one inaccuracy... the Zune has subscriptions so it wouldn't be hard to fill). Considering the recent revelations about Zune wirless sharing, its one more stupid thing about the Zune.

  • That was not funny

  • oh no, it was

  • Wow this is guy is an idiot. ANybody know about the original video?

  • FUCK THIS VIDEO, fucking apple fanboy, kill that shit. ZUNE kicks the fuck out of ur ip-od . ITS GAME OVER! APPLE INC is DEAD!

  • ??? If it's so "dead", how come the ipod owns 70% of the market. microsoft didn't BUY the zune from toshiba to sell a good product, they did it to take market share from apple. why not read some of the FACTS in this video. f u.

  • excuse me faggot buzzbarber , microsoft owns the world, what has apple done? fuck all. dont get started on market share mate lol, apple inc is dead!

  • God you act like that's a good thing that Microsoft owns the world...and what the hell is a faggot buzzbarber? Someone who chooses to bend over for Microsoft and get fucked up the ass?

  • Right. And who's going to kill them? Microsoft? They can't even convince people to join their stupid fucking "social". Zune is dead.

  • How's that comment looking 3 years down the track? You still can't even get a Zune outside the US, not that anyone cares. And I'm pretty sure Apple is still in business!

  • wrong wrong wrong. Toshiba did not write the OS. The Zune's team did. they designed it created and endorsed it. This is all part from the creators of the xbox or entertament deparment. The UI and OS is copletely of microsoft. all toshiba had part in this was manufacturing it. Also the ipod has the same hard except zunes is far more sdvanced. They are voth toshiba hard drives.

  • iPod > Zune

    No contest here... anyone who thinks otherwise fails to have good taste in products.

  • you can download your digital camera with an ipod?? that doesn't even make sense...

  • I think what he meant to write was, " you can download the photos from your digital camera to your full-sized iPod." You can, I've done it. Beats the heck out of carrying around a laptop or a ton of little memory cards for your digital camera while you are on vacation.

  • well you can do that with a zune to

  • u mite be the only one who knows about it then

  • fuck you! comparing 1st gen iPod, five year old, to the new zune...

  • Im not a fanboy or anything but who the fuck wants to use a OS like apple that takes 2 years to get games ported,has a shitty web browser like safari,and a fucked up interface.I hate microsoft but um,Windows ftw.

  • Dude, if you have that much a problem waiting, you can install Windows on ALL the new Macs with intel processors.

    "But I don't want to buy a legal copy of windows!"

    I thought you were the type to legally fill your Zune?

    And, you can use Firefox on a Mac, which kicks the crap out of any other browser, hands down.

  • You can use firefox on windows too dumbass! In fact I'm posting this comment with firefox on windows xp right now.

  • My point was that he was complaining about Safari, so I brought up Firefox. I never said that Firefox was Mac-sclusive... well, I guess that you guys on Windows need Firefox more than we do, thanks to that shitty insecure piece of crap merely known as IE

  • you is right ie sux completely

  • You can use FireFo on Mac? I thought Mozzilla gave Mac a special browser

  • Apple Zealots and Microsoft Zombies....why dosnt microsoft just buy out apple so everyone will shut the fuck up.

  • why dont you all go outside and actually do something physical versus sitting on your ass and making videos on the internet hoping that another loser across the country thinks that you are cool but in reality the internet is the only place you feel good about yourself. just save yourself 3 years and hang yourself now, no one is gonna care anyways

  • Says the loser that gets angry about the words on his screen.

  • yo e-thug get ur hand off ur dick and do something about it champ? fucking cat

  • LMAO!!!

  • Damn fanboys, if I like the zune ill get a zune, if I like the iPod ill get an iPod, jesus christ WTF is up with all these videos, just let people like what they like.

    BTW...

    this guy talks about iPods sucking, and he has like 5 ? o_0?

  • This guy's an idiot, and whoever put the words up is even dumber. Really, it's shit like this that proves iPod zealots fear the Zune.

  • Zune.... as in Zune to be extinct!!!

    Zune... to be forgotten...

    The Zuner you take this brown turd out of my face the better!!!

  • PURE PWNAGE! I almost felt sorry for that bald guy Ha ha ha ha! Thanks for the video! Yahoo mail is much better than hotmail imo.

  • hahaha! A record player! I feel bad 4 anyone that gets a zune. And to be honest, I would prefer a record player! And what the heck? Microsoft owns hotmail? I use that! OMG! PLease tell me u were joking at that bit....

  • Apple fanboy makes fun of MS fanboy. How boring!

  • Nice logic...This idiot MS fanboy had all of his facts completely wrong and someone made a video correcting his lies...in fact the Zune Fan boy ape man has since removed his original zune lover videos...cause if you haven't noticed...the zune flopped hard this xmas...guess not that many switched after all.

  • Notice this guy has every single ipod nearly. Nice flame, this guys a tool.

  • LMAO...

    this must be one of the pwnedest videos ever

  • Anyone notice he had pretty much every iPod ever made! yet he owned one zune LOL

  • there is only one type of zune or does he need every color?

  • great response, and good fleetwood mac usage too :)