ΕΛΛΑΔΑ = GERMANY König Otto (1832--1862) König Georg I. (1863-1913) König Konstantin I. (1913-1917 und 1920-1922) König Alexander (1917-1920) König Georg II. (1922-1924 und 1935-1947) König Paul (1947-1964) König Konstantin II. (1964-1973) Alle diese Könige die ΕΛΛΑΔΑ erfunden haben haben keine griechische Wurzeln und haben eindeutig DEUTSCHE Wurzeln. ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ist eine DEUTSCHE ERFINDUNG, das sieht man noch HEUTZUTAGE. Alexander der Große ( der MAKEDONIER) hat zur seine Zeit Athen erobert
@Tolisakis97 yeh i live in australia although my grandparents are from the agean theseloniki if you are macedonian a real macedonian you wouldnt call yourself a greek mate i believe my own opinion no offence to greece or anyone macedonia was and will never be greek
@Tolisakis97 i know im not a slav or a turk but seriousley mate looking at history and analysing it macedonia really isnt greek i will never be greek mate im only a macedonian
@jovoification Okay,but you cant wait from me to accept that.
You cant be just Macedonian..
Or..
the only explanation i can imagine is that in the ancient times there were turks or anyway guys who werent greeks(or macedonians) but came in macedonia and are living there for thousands of years..so that they believe now that they are true macedonians..
Anyway..
You didnt answer me
Why do so many say that you dont know what you say?
@Tolisakis97 i think different its easy when i talk to my grandparents they told me that the greeks never let them call themselves macedonians not because they wernt it was because for many they believed it didnt exist anymore my grandpa as ive told many was forced to call himself greek as he called himself a macedonian he was put in prison they then told him again your greek he said fuck that so he saved and immigrated to australia thats why mate thats why fuck greece
@Tolisakis97 they never accepted us in ancient times calling us barbarians then just recently they never accepted the name macedonia and the people but now they beg for people like my grandparents to call themselves greek macedonians because its history macedonia has good history and the greeks are just stealing it and the macedonians of fyrom have been treated badly being called slavs and not having an identity i say that the greeks should stop lieing
@Tolisakis97 IM NOT BRAINWASHED I ONLY WANT MACEDONIA AS ITS OWN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY AS MY BLOOD IS FROM THESELONIKI MANY OTHERS WANT WHAT I WANT I DONT WANT TO BE UNDER GREECE
@Tolisakis97 the greeks tried brainwashing my family aswell but guess what where not that fuking stupid i know exactly whats going on greece just wants alexander and phillip and the great macedonian history they have brainwashed many from the agean but the greeks should also be careful because many from the agean are not dumb and they know the truth
@Tolisakis97 you dont understand i dont want the world to know macedonia as being greek just then you called yourself a dorian/greek why dont you just call yourself a dorian
@Tolisakis97 you dont understand i dont want the world to know macedonia as being greek just then you called yourself a dorian/greek why dont you just call yourself a dorian
@marija354 his mother was Greek from Epirus and his father was Greek from Macedonia. Besides both had Greek names with Greek meaninig. Thank you Marija for your comment
You Like to be Macedonians and i know why! Your name Greece means Stupid Land and Greek Stupid Man.. that is translation from Latin , Roma people call you like that and you choose that name because Hellenic was ideology like Communism so you cant have nation Hellenism and you choose that stupid name.
Do you ever seen Blondie Greek like Alexandar The Great? Do you have in you European blood? Be honest don't pretend that you are Macedonians because you are not.
i was born in Kastoria of Macedonia you ignorant fuck,like my father,my grandfather n so on..
were where you born n where was your father born?Albania or Bulgaria?
you dont even have the slightest idea what the word Macedonia means,simply because its a GREEK word n means tall..and who said we chose "Greek" as a name? we call ourselves Hellenes (Ελληνες) n our country Hellas (Ελλας) since the beginning of time...
Alexander the Great never missed a chance to verify his pride for his Greek ancestry.His parents had Greek origins.Alexander considered himself as a Greek.He spoke Greek.He grew up and was educated from famous Greek teachers like Aristotle and had as his favourite book Iliad of Homer.He worshipped the same gods like the rest of Greeks.He undertook and accompliced to a military campaign based on the long-term hostility between Greeks and Persians,as leader of the Greeks.
Both he and his army spread the ancient Greek language and culture to the fringes of India and therefore Alexander has justifiably been used for centuries as a symbol of Greek civilisation.He found Alexandria,a city at the mouth of the Nile.Alexandria became the literary,scientific,and commercial center of the Greek world.
The Macedonian kingdom, was founded by Hellenic emigrants from Argos. The Macedonians were a Dorian tribe, according to the testimony of Herodotus. Their country was cut off from the rest of Greece, to the south by a long chain of mountain ranges -Olympus (the Holy mountain of ancient Greeks) and to the west by the Pindos range, and lived until the 6th century by the teachings of the Homeric epic. Aegae (Edessa) became the first capital...
The Macedonians worshiped the 12 Olympian gods as the rest of the Greeks. The name Macednos is homeric word and means tall. All the kings of Macedonia had Greek names. Alexander's name is Greek. The word "Alexandros" is produced from the prefix alex(=protector) and the word andros(=man) meaning "he who protects from men". The prefix "alex" can be found in many Greek words today (alexiptoto=parachute, alexisfairo=bulletproof - all these words have the meaning of protection).
All the inscriptions on monuments,coins and other artifacts in Macedonia and also in Pakistan,India and Iran have the Greek language on them.There are no ancient monuments with a different language.An example is the inscribed base of a statue of Thessaloniki,of the 2nd c. B.C.Thessaloniki was Alexander's sister and the second in power city of Byzantium.The funny thing is that Slavs from Scopje call our city with the barbaric name Solun...
They don't call her with the name of Alexander's sister, they don't call her with the Macedonian name Thessaloniki, because simply they are not Macedonians. They have to seach elsewhere to discover their roots.lol its really funny that when you show up some historic reports about Alexander or Macedonia they have nothing to say..
They don't call her with the name of Alexander's sister, they don't call her with the Macedonian name Thessaloniki, because simply they are not Macedonians. They have to seach elsewhere to discover their roots.lol its really funny that when you show up some historic reports about Alexander or Macedonia they have nothing to say..
as an independent state The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia has in the past and will claim in the future exclusivity on the term Macedonia and its derivatives. “Macedonia” wants to have exclusive rights on the name Macedonia and its derivatives. The danger in this is that The FYROM could find patrons and then it could very well claim all adjacent Macedonian territories with the Capital of Greek Macedonia, Thessaloniki, as its prize.
But even during the Roman Conquest, which continued into the Byzantine Era – a period of about one thousand years – that Roman territory, with Constantinople as its capital and Thessaloniki (in Macedonia) as a cultural and commercial center of the Empire, remained fully Hellenic. Furthermore, during Justinian’s time it adopted the Hellenic language as the formal and official Language of the Byzantine State. e.
December 29, 2001: Even recently, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje, the Foreign Minister of The FYROM Slobodan Casule said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria Solomon Pasi that they “belong to the same Slav people.”
February 26, 1992: The FYROM’s President Kirov Gligorov, at an interview by the Foreign Information Service daily report, Eastern Europe, stated: “We are Slavs, who came to the region in the sixth century. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.
January 22, 1999: The FYROM’s Ambassador in Washington D.C.,
. As long as something took place in or someone was born in the Geographic Macedonia at any time from the beginning of time until today it was being changed into “Macedonian” meaning Slav.
the FYROM is a unique case. The sole purpose of the creation of the Socialist Republic under the name “Macedonia” was the eventual claim and incorporation of Greek Macedonia into communist Yugoslavia with the port of Thessaloniki as the trophy. During the period of communist Yugoslavia, a systematic “macedonization” of everything possible took place.
he region borders, as well as the relative terminology, exactly coincide with maps produced by ethnic Macedonian nationalists, before the overthrow of the Ottomans, and after the Treaty of Bucharest, 1913 and the division of the Macedonia region. Ethnic Macedonian nationalists have expressed claims to what they refer to as "Aegean Macedonia" (Greece), "Pirin Macedonia" (Bulgaria), "Mala Prespa and Golo Bardo" (Albania), and "Gora and Prohor Pchinski" (Serbia) despite the fact that today,
H ιστορία των Σλάβων της πΓΔΜ είναι συνδεδεμένη με την ιστορία της Βουλγαρίας από τον έκτο αιώνα μ.Χ. μέχρι το έτος 1913.
Τα εδάφη της πΓΔΜ ήταν παλιότερα το νοτιότερο τμήμα της Γιουγκοσλαβίας. Ως το 1929 είχαν την ονομασία «Νότιος Σερβία» ("Јужна Србија" / "Južna Srbija"), ενώ την περίοδο 1929 - 1941 χαρακτηρίζονταν ως «Βαρντάρσκα Μπανόβινα» (Вардарска бановина / "Vardarska banovina"). Στους Σέρβους, η περιοχή είναι γνωστή ως Παλαιά Σερβία. Τ
hi file the real trues is red and yelov on flag . which means the flag with red and yellow Macedonian flag properly ... blood conquered territories along the path of the sun.
@makedon1948 I thought that it was just Mc Donalds, but ok, everyone can dream... hahaha You live in the ONLY temporary country of Europe and you will see that soon. You asked for too much, and that's why you will get nothing at last! Time is close...
written on white paper are all clear that this is a newly composed together with you and Bulgaria do, all that is .macedonia been and will exist only macedonians.we have language that I have shown not as you say.the true evidence to us in writing abroad.On Macedonians not Greeks, you are described as a greeks.i to realize that the Macedonian part of you and the Bulgarians will be paying back a short time
@makedon1948 Macedonian language? You are speaking a slavic language, if you don't know, and Slavs came to this area 1000 years aftre Alexander the Great. Does this makes any sense to you? I'm sure it does hahaha
:48 Herodotus also relates the incident of the participation of Alexander I of Macedon in the Olympic Games in 504 or 500 BC where the participation of the Macedonian king was contested by participants on the grounds that he was not Greek. The Hellanodikai, however, after examining his Argead claim confirmed that the Macedonians were in fact Greek and allowed him to participate.
@Georgios763 all Slavs nations accept our language, letter who invited Kiril and Metodij. and ques where they are born? ANSWER: Thessaloniki. Before 1900 there weren't Greeks in Thessaloniki, Just Macedonians, Turks, Jewes and Vlavs.
Kiril and Metodij the way you write them were Greeks of Macedonia and their names have Greek origin.
Thessaloniki has the name of Alexander's sister and Soloun only Slavs know what it means. Accept the facts and don't make fictional stories of what you would like to read.
Alexander addressing the dead GREEKS after the battle of Chaeronia:
"Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
i'm albanian...and i have to admit....macedonia is greek todays macedonia is nothing but slavo-bulgarian, with albanian turkish and other..... todays macedonian map doesn't even repersent ancient macedonian land.... since when was Skopje part of anceint macedonia or even the capital city? it was part of dardania and the capital city of dardania not macedonia..... todays macedonians are nothing but fake fakedonians
I am a Brit with business interests in the actual country Macedonia. Personally I think it was an ancient country with borders in what is now Greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria. Personally I dont see the point of all the arguing. Macedonia (or whats left of it today) is so small its not hurting anyone. What is the point of Greece continuing to make waves in the EU. There should be an independant EU investigation, but Greece would have to agree to live with whatever the result either way.
apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
@fwbz your stupid comment doesn't suit at serious issues like this, that you know shit about. Your presence here insults every human with IQ over 80. Get lost!
haven't you ever watched a military video, for example, with american music?
btw what does this have to do? you could just have stated if you agree with the facts mentioned or not...maybe u don't so you're trying to inflict criticism on the music because there was nothing else you could say, yes?
i'm wondering if you're 100% German...if you do..well fuck you anyways..
katalaveno einai polu asximo mia xora na min exei dikia tis istoria....alla einai aparadekto na prospathei na klepsei tin istoria kapoias alis kai akoma poio aparadektoi einai autoi pou sinipografoun se auto!!!!einai alithia oti o neoellinas exei katantisei ligo vlakas k anistoritos alla einai ellinas k xerei na apantaei k na polemaei gia tin patrida tou k gia auta pou tou anikoun.....i makedonia itan einai k tha einai elliniki .....giauto skopianoi kathiste fronima!!!!!!!
THE LAND WHERE BULGARIANS LEAV IS NOT CALLED MACEDONIA! it is called FYROM or skopia! You cannot call that land "Macedonia" just because your stupid nation wants to be part of Macedonia
Exactly!But your slavic country is not macedonia..That means GTFO this video..Uneducated dirty slavic bastard..FUCK RUSSIA!FUCK BULGARIA!FUCK ALBANIANS!FUCK EVERY SINGLE SLAVIC PUSSY OUTTHERE!WE ARE GREEKS AND WE NOT GONA LET ANYONE TO TAK EOUR HISTORY..!
Macedonians had the same language, the same religion, used the same names, served the same arts, used the same architecture, the same heroes, the same customs, the same rituals, the same traditions, the same myths, and olympic games patricipation as all other Hellenes!!! Macedonians were (and are)Hellenes.
look all they names are greek great alexander from the greek name "Alexandros" or his father philipos from the greek name "FILIPOS" ´macedinia is greek
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why dont you all idiots who are sending all thoose fake videos check sme ancient roman,persian any kind of maps and see if you can find greece first then talk about our macedonia.GREECE=OTTOMAN REPUBLIC OF YUNANISTAN
check the maps before 1944 and see if you can find skopje and then talk about Greece.The democratic ideas that you have today were first said by Greeks 2400 years ago.When we studied philosophy and maths you were hiding in the caves.When Greeks fought the Axis your people licked hitlers balls to create a useless nation that will be a part of Bulgaria when america abandon you.
Learn some history you FYROM Monkeydonian...stay away from Greek history. Go steal some Chinese history or something... Rename your county 'Ching Chong Ching'
SHAME OF YOU GREEKS! Philip was wanted to destroy Greece! He Destroy Greek army in the battle at Chearonea 338 B.C. Also his son Aleksander the great destroy the Greeks cities Theba and Athens in 355 B.C. THE GREEK DEMOSTENUS SAID: -Macedonians are varvars. They never will be greeks!... And now you Greeks said that Macedonia is greek? SHAME OF YOU GREEKS! MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS! MACEDONIA NEVER GREEK!!!
It saddens me that Yuguslavian people take the name Macedonia for their country while they have nothing to do with it. It is a lack of respect to the ancient Macedonians to be honest.
And thats only the beggining my friend, they find themselves between a nation without any sign of ancient or modern history and politicians with words full of propaganda and lies. I think we all can see their choise...!
The Greeks never considered other greek speaking populations as barbarian (the onomatopia of the word in greek means just that "var..var..var..var" is the only thing you hear when a barbarian talked )Alexander the great was talkin ,reading and righting 80% similar greek with todays greek , a 5 year old greek child can read a macedonian script 2500 years old ,on the other hand a fyromian "no one" need a greek translator to read anything macedonian (try the experiment)
One of the frequent users of the term barbarian in order to slander his political opponents was Demosthenes. His most known victim was Philip of Macedon. Not many people thought know that Demosthenes used it also against one of his political opponents, the Athenean orator Aristogeiton [Against Aristogeiton II. 26.17]
However the ultimate proof of Greek tribes being called barbarians is coming from Athenaios Deipnosophistes where Stratonicus the harp-player was asked πότερα Βοιωτοί βαρβαρώτεροιή θετταλοί, Ηλείους έφησεν meaning who were the greatest Barbarians, the Boeotians or the Thessalians and he replied the Eleans.
Another example is the dialogue between Socrates and Strepsiadis in Aristophanes Clouds. At a certain moment Socrates call Strepsiadis ανθρωπός αμαθές ουτώσι και βάρβαρος. meaning barbarian and with out knowledge ,make even clearer the term barbaros was used as a derogatory term since Strepsiadiswas a well-known Athenian. Unless skopjans insist on believing Atheneans werent greeks either.
Those, plus the fact that Macedonians were considered a bit of Barbarians, because they were kind less educated and more...barbaric, let's say brutal. ;-)
boo be da vi ebam sve zivo grcko! pleme vase izizvrteno! i jas najdov so vas da si gi ebavam greojte!
at least say thank you to macedonia, it only gave you everything you have (and i mean greece, bulgaria, serbia and every single other asshole in this region)
wtf??? you fuckin asshole, even plutarch admited that alexander is non-hellen (well half-hellen, remember ohis mother) and that he speaks a language that is NOT UNDERSTANDABLE to the gayreeks. every ancient historian claims alexander to be a macedonian! how dumb can u get! stop stealing our history! we gave you the half of our territory and you still want more? we can give you a "candy" if you stop the propaganda, eh mates, what say you:D:D:D:D:D:D
we know all greeks that alexander was macedonian but macedonian -greek like spartan-greek,like athenian-greek.the recognition of your fake country as macedonia is based undouptably on polikal reasons.if you want to find the truth make a research of your own.(not in your country off course)
The Greeks never considered other greek speaking populations as barbarian (the onomatopia of the word in greek means just that "var..var..var..var" is the only thing you hear when a barbarian talked )Alexander the great was talkin ,reading and righting 80% similar greek with todays greek , a 5 year old greek child can read a macedonian script 2500 years old ,on the other hand a fyromian "no one" need a greek translator to read anything macedonian (try the experiment)
so what about "Demosten and yours10Phillipikis" - and a.... philip used to speak greek, he was in a greek jail for some time right? than why was he considered a barberian? and when alexander came to power - he had to deal with an uprising in greece! they thought that alexander is too young and too weak and alexander burned thebes to the ground, right? USE YOUR LOGIC MY SON! and you'll see the TRUTH you always seek! you fucked up idiot!
Another example is the dialogue between Socrates and Strepsiadis in Aristophanes Clouds. At a certain moment Socrates call Strepsiadis ανθρωπός αμαθές ουτώσι και βάρβαρος. This make even clearer the term barbaros was used as a derogatory term since Strepsiadiswas a well-known Athenian. Unless skopjans insist on believing Atheneans werent greeks either.
The Greek key design was the most important symbol in Ancient Greece as it represented infinity and unity. Most ancient Greek temples incorporate the sign of the Greek key. Even the shield of Philip, the second king of Macedonia, was decorated with multiple symbols of the Greek key.
Aristotelis, the teacher of Alexander the Great says about the rivers in Macedonia (Meteorologika, Book I, Par. 13):
"Of the rivers in the Greek world, the Achelous flows from Pindus, the Inachus from the same mountain; the Strymon, the Nestus, and the Hebrus all three from Scombrus; many rivers, too, flow from Rhodope."
United Nations General Assembly:Resolutions #193(27 November 1948)and #288(18 November 1949) condemned the kidnapping of roughly 28,000 Greek children by communist guerrillas and their removal to eastern Europe countries..!
Those two UN Resolutions are also calling for their return to their Greek families.
"I fully support the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces and i welcome the adoption of House Resolution #514 of March 22,1950 calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland."
Alexander or in greek Alexandros means the man who drive away the men..!! ( alex= drive away, andras = man) i am telling all these for those who think Alexander the great wasn't greek.......
govetce i guess u were there in this conversation and u know that.because everybody knows that macedonians as all greek states and greek kingdoms we taking part in olympic games
then why when Aleksandar MAKEDONSKI asked greek king can he play in olimpic games, the greek's king answer was: Olimpic games are only for greeks, AND YOU CANT PLAY BICOUSE YOU ARE NOT GREEK
If you only knew how funny sounds the "Aleksandar MAKEDONSKI"!!!
Take a look at the other video: "Macedonian Kings and Coins" and you'll see why "Aleksandar" is funny.
This video is full of quotes and sources. Take it or leave it. I don't blame you people for what you believe. They made a history just to create a fake nation.
WHY you forgot to tell us that ALEXANDROS A' finally participated to the OLYMPIC GAMES? Because AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU he proved that HE AND Macedonians are GREEK!
FREE OF CHARGE HISTORY LESSONS FOR ALL BRAIN WASHED WANNABEMACEDONIANS
thats half the story.they asked him to prove that he is a greek and he proved it easily cause the macedonian royal house was originated from argos.he took part in the olympics and he won the first place on the running contest.
the Macedonian constitution 1 Macedonia is only Greek 2 Republic of Macedonia is not a real coutry 3 A Macedonian is first of all Greek only 4 Alexander the Great and Philipos are Greek 5 The star of Vergina is a Greek symbol 6 The official language of Macedonia is Greek 7 Thessaloniki is the capital of Macedonia 8 Macedonia is northen Greece 9 Skopje is a gypsi and homosexual land 10 The skopjan flag is good for toilet paper
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1) lol. We had our own language, you actually gave us the nickname of barbariens. If you don't know greek here's a hint - it means that we had a unknown language and "evil culture"
2) yes we had greek names. So?
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6) Hell no.. Compare southern greece to moder excavations in "greek" macedonia. Any resemblance? nope.
7) Nope we didn't. One king once decided to go by the name of a greek so that he could enter but no, no others.
Your ancestors never even lived ANYWHERE near ancient Macedonia - in fact the Slavs (because that IS what you are) only moved to that region of the world around 6th century, more than 10 centuries after Alexander the Great, and thus you have no connection to that GREEK line of ancestry.
LOL, imagine the ridiculous idea of Alexander speaking ..........a Slavic language and not Greek.
Do you see how silly your ridiculous arguments are?
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Yes, They came in the 6th century and we were met here by people that lived in these lands. The people that lived here, if you don't know, were the Maceedonians paeonians and the dorians ((or something). The macedonians Never actually mixed with the hellass's and they never actually accepted the hellas's culture. But when the slavs came, they did mix with them. Therefore we are the decendants of the macedonians who lived on this territory and the slavs who inhabited it centurys later.
1.The name Macedonia came from the ancient Dorian Greeks who were called "Macedni". The language they spoke in ancient times was Greek.
2.The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks who entered the area of Macedonia at about 1100 B.C. long before any Slavic population appeared in that part of the world.
Macedonians lived around Thessaloniki,Greece! You have been told a funny story and you believed it, no matter if it does not make any sense. Macedonians spread Hellenism had Greek names, but they did accept and lived with Slavs and not Greeks? Think!
As sunxwrame pou pe8ane prin thn wra tou o Megas oramatisths kai Ellhnas.
Tetoia me8odo eksolo8reuseis pi8ikwn mono ena tetoio mualo 8a thn kseftotan.Tous prosilitize,tous baftize "ellhnes" tous edine dikaiwmata kai o apoteros skopos pisteuw htan h maziki eksolo8reush tous.Alla pou na katalaboun oi gyrw tou?autoi ston kosmo tous pws na pane na gamisoun tis ginekoules tous kai poia xwrafia 8a paroun.
Και συμπληρώνω,ας μην έχουμε εσφαλμενες αντιλήψεις για το έργο του Αλεξανδρου και ας το ψάξουμε.Πολοί λένε οτι μετέδωσε τον Ελληνικό πολιτισμό και καλά και ηταν πρόδρομος για να καθιερωθεί ο Χριστιανισμός.Αυτά παιδιά, είναι ΜΠΟΥΡΔΕΣ, και καπέλωμα της πραγματικότητας.
.Αλλο ήταν το όραμα του Αλέξανδρου. Ας το ψάξει ο καθένας λοιπόν....
Οι Μακεδονες ηταν Ελληνες και αυτο πιστευαν για τον εαυτο τους. Αλλα και οι λαοι (Περσες, Εβραιοι, Αιγυπτιοι κ.λ.π) δεν τους ξεχωριζαν απο τους Ελληνες. Οναμαζαν το Μεγα Αλεξενδρο ..βασιλεα των Ελληνων... Ο Αποστολος Παυλος οταν ηρθε να πρωτοκηρυξει το χριστιανισμο, στους Φιλιππους, στη Θεσσαλονικη, στη Βεροια στα Ελληνικα κηρυξε και στα Ελληνικα εγραψε τις δυο ..προς Θεσσαλονικεις.. επιστολες του, και την ..Φιλιππησιους..
Οι Σλαβοι εμφανιστηκαν στα βαλκανια επι Βυζαντιου. Δηλαδη πολλους αιωνες (περιπου 1.000 χρονια μετα το Μεγα Αλεξανδο. Η γλωσσα που μιλουσαν οι αρχαιοι Μακεδονες ειναι η Ελληνικη, οπως μαρτυρουν οι δεκαδες επιγραφες και τα αρχαια μνημεια. Η Θρησκεια και ο πολιτισμος τους ηταν ολοιδια με των υπολοιπων Ελληνων.
Την Ελληνικη γλωσσα και τον Ελληνικο πολιτισμο διεδωσε εξ αλλου ο Αλεξανδρος στις χωρες της Ανατολης, μεχρι τη μακρινη Ινδια, μεχρι την Αιγυπτο.
Επέτρεψέ μου φίλε να σε διορθώσω ,ο Ελληνικός πολιτισμός ήταν ηδη γνωστός πρίν πάει ο Αλέξανδρος στην ανατολή. Και οι Πέρσες μάθαιναν Ελλληνικά , και στην Αίγυπτο ακόμη.Επήσης είναι γνωστές και οι εκστρατείες του Διονύσου και του Ηρακλή πρός Ινδιες (με όποιους Έλληνες και εάν εκπροσωπήσαν αυτα τα ονόματα).Οι σλάβοι καμία σχέση βέβαια με Έλληνες ,όπως πολύ σωστά εμφνίστηκαν 1000 χρονια μετα τον Αλέξανδρο στην περιοχή.
Επέτρεψε μου λοιπόν να διρθώσω και εγώ, ένας πολιτισμός δεν περιορίζεται στη γλώσσα(πόσο μάλλον όταν ανφερόμαστε στο ογκοδέστατο οικοδόμημα του ελληνισμου)Ο Αλέξανδρος μετέδωσε ελληνισμό τον χρησιμοποίησε ορθά το αποτέλεσμα μάλλον ήταν πετυχημένο.Το τι οραματίζονταν ο Αλέξανδρος πιθανότατα μόνο αυτος το ξέρει και όχι εμείς, που τον παρατηρούμε μέσα απο παρωπίδες της εκάστοτε μαλακίας που ακούγεται
Απλά η γλώσσα είναι το πρωταρχικό βασικό και μυστήρια υπήρξαν και επιστήμες και πολλά άλλα που είχαν ήδη μεταδωσει οι Έλληνες σε άλλους. ...Πώς πάει φίλε ?....
Εχεις δίκο άν και κάποια πράγματα είναι φανερά για το τί , και άλλα όχι.Φτάνει να βλέπει κανείς χωρίς παρωπίδες και να μελετά οσο δυνατόν περισσότερες έγγυρες πηγές.
Όλα καλά,ελπίζω το ίδιο και εκεί μεριά(καλό το βίντεο με τη μοτο αλλά καλύτερα να μην φτιάξεις αλλο...)Ο Αλέξανδρος(ο αγαπημένος μου) είναι και αυτός παγιδευμένος στο μπέρδεμα μύθος῏ἶστορία.Επίσης λοίπουν κάποια κεφάλαια απο την ιστορία του (αυτό το φημισμένο ἕκλεισε πύλες῾που εγώ θεωρούσα οτι είναι η γνώση του να προστατευέι την νόηση του)κάποτε πρέπει να ανακτήσουμε την κληρονομιά μας.Πόσες φορές μου περνά απο το μυαλό να κάνω πλιάτσικο στο Αγιο Όρος τι τα κρύβουν τα γαμημένα!
Επίσης στην είσοδο Αγίας Λαύρας υπάρχουν οι άγιο Αριστοτέλης και Πλάτωνας!!!(αν θυμάμαι καλά για τη μονή)Τα χειρόγραφα πρέπει να φύγουν απο εκεί δεν είναι η θέση τους εκεί
Α , το είχα ηδη έτοιμο.Οπως και κάποια άλλα αλλα δεν τα βαζω , θα με κλείσουν μέσα. Το βραδάκι θα μπώ στο γνωστό μέρος αν είσαι τα λέμα καλύτερα.Που να δείς το βατικανό τι έχει φίλε.Μερικά βγήκαν στην φόρα και τους κυνηγήσανε αυτου΄ς που τα είπανε.Εχω και μερικες φωτό από κώδικες αν είναι στα στέλνω.
Και άγιος Πυθαγόρας και υπάρχει κτλ. Θα τα πούμε. Να σε καλά φίλε.
Τα video που θα φτιάχνετε θα πρέπει να δείχνουν καθαρά το ΟΜΑΙΜΟΝ, ΟΜΟΓΛΩΣΣΟΝ ΟΜΟΘΡΗΣΚΟΝ και ΟΜΟΤΡΟΠΟΝ, στους αρχαιους σε σχέση με τους σημερινούς. Και βέβαια ΚΑΝΕΝΑ ΑΠΟ ΑΥΤΑ δεν υπάρχει στους σλάβους.ΟΜΑΙΜΟΝ.ΓΙατί αποκρύπτεται η ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΛΟΓΙΑ απο τον κόσμο???
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Devoj4E 4 months ago
NO MACEDONIA FOR THE FYROMONKEYS TIMELESS VITO !
FYROMINJA 7 months ago
everyone who knows history knows the truth..we greeks havent to prove anything..
We know history and are proud for our history.
I am a proud greek macedonian.
Tolisakis97 8 months ago
@Tolisakis97 where are you from what area
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification im a dorian greek from Epirus (actually from Smirna-Izmir in Turkey) and Makedonian.
Im not half turkish...smirni/izmir was greek sometime^^
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 yeh i live in australia although my grandparents are from the agean theseloniki if you are macedonian a real macedonian you wouldnt call yourself a greek mate i believe my own opinion no offence to greece or anyone macedonia was and will never be greek
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification aha..
My grandfather was macedonian.the grandfather of my grandfather was greek.and his grandfahter was also greek..
So I guess im a real macedonian..
You guys dont understand that you,even you,could be greek but without knowing it.
Or you just are NOT macedonians and you are slavs or turks.
Your arguments seem kiddy and ridicoulous in front of the arguments of the greeks.
Also,so many(really many),scientists,historians etc are saying that what you say is bullshit.. so ??
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 i know im not a slav or a turk but seriousley mate looking at history and analysing it macedonia really isnt greek i will never be greek mate im only a macedonian
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification Okay,but you cant wait from me to accept that.
You cant be just Macedonian..
Or..
the only explanation i can imagine is that in the ancient times there were turks or anyway guys who werent greeks(or macedonians) but came in macedonia and are living there for thousands of years..so that they believe now that they are true macedonians..
Anyway..
You didnt answer me
Why do so many say that you dont know what you say?
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 i think different its easy when i talk to my grandparents they told me that the greeks never let them call themselves macedonians not because they wernt it was because for many they believed it didnt exist anymore my grandpa as ive told many was forced to call himself greek as he called himself a macedonian he was put in prison they then told him again your greek he said fuck that so he saved and immigrated to australia thats why mate thats why fuck greece
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification what do you want to hear dude?
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 they never accepted us in ancient times calling us barbarians then just recently they never accepted the name macedonia and the people but now they beg for people like my grandparents to call themselves greek macedonians because its history macedonia has good history and the greeks are just stealing it and the macedonians of fyrom have been treated badly being called slavs and not having an identity i say that the greeks should stop lieing
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification do you understand how brainwashed you are?
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 IM NOT BRAINWASHED I ONLY WANT MACEDONIA AS ITS OWN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY AS MY BLOOD IS FROM THESELONIKI MANY OTHERS WANT WHAT I WANT I DONT WANT TO BE UNDER GREECE
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification
greece itself isnt independed..
the greeks arent free so shut the fuck up..
Im a proud Dorian Greek .
Macedonian from Kastoria and Ionian from Smirni.
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 the greeks tried brainwashing my family aswell but guess what where not that fuking stupid i know exactly whats going on greece just wants alexander and phillip and the great macedonian history they have brainwashed many from the agean but the greeks should also be careful because many from the agean are not dumb and they know the truth
jovoification 2 months ago
@jovoification you finaly showed your real face^^ i was sure for that from the beginning^^
well my answer is this :
/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mIRe5tnqRKM
its in english so i guess you wont have any problems.^^
Tolisakis97 2 months ago
@Tolisakis97 you dont understand i dont want the world to know macedonia as being greek just then you called yourself a dorian/greek why dont you just call yourself a dorian
jovoification 2 months ago
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@Tolisakis97 you dont understand i dont want the world to know macedonia as being greek just then you called yourself a dorian/greek why dont you just call yourself a dorian
jovoification 2 months ago
HIS MOTHER WAS GREEK AND HIS FATHER WAS MACEDONIAN .. and his dad king Phillip taughtt him to fight and when he died alexandar took his place.
marija354 9 months ago
@marija354 his mother was Greek from Epirus and his father was Greek from Macedonia. Besides both had Greek names with Greek meaninig. Thank you Marija for your comment
SpongebobSquarebrain 9 months ago
[ FYROmonkeys 21 century ]
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Quote:
We are "Macedonian", descendants of the ancient Macedonians,
but do not ask why, we don't know either. Anyway, you have no rights ask for facts.
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lololol
FYROmonkey1 10 months ago
HISTORY DO NOT LIE...SLAV TATARS DO.
FACT
trustmeU2needhelp 11 months ago
if you want more HISTORICAL FACTS let me know,i love shutting up your big mouths..
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
You Like to be Macedonians and i know why! Your name Greece means Stupid Land and Greek Stupid Man.. that is translation from Latin , Roma people call you like that and you choose that name because Hellenic was ideology like Communism so you cant have nation Hellenism and you choose that stupid name.
Do you ever seen Blondie Greek like Alexandar The Great? Do you have in you European blood? Be honest don't pretend that you are Macedonians because you are not.
maktifo 1 year ago
@maktifo
we pretend to be Macedonians???
i was born in Kastoria of Macedonia you ignorant fuck,like my father,my grandfather n so on..
were where you born n where was your father born?Albania or Bulgaria?
you dont even have the slightest idea what the word Macedonia means,simply because its a GREEK word n means tall..and who said we chose "Greek" as a name? we call ourselves Hellenes (Ελληνες) n our country Hellas (Ελλας) since the beginning of time...
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
@maktifo
Alexander the Great never missed a chance to verify his pride for his Greek ancestry.His parents had Greek origins.Alexander considered himself as a Greek.He spoke Greek.He grew up and was educated from famous Greek teachers like Aristotle and had as his favourite book Iliad of Homer.He worshipped the same gods like the rest of Greeks.He undertook and accompliced to a military campaign based on the long-term hostility between Greeks and Persians,as leader of the Greeks.
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
@maktifo
Both he and his army spread the ancient Greek language and culture to the fringes of India and therefore Alexander has justifiably been used for centuries as a symbol of Greek civilisation.He found Alexandria,a city at the mouth of the Nile.Alexandria became the literary,scientific,and commercial center of the Greek world.
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
@maktifo
The Macedonian kingdom, was founded by Hellenic emigrants from Argos. The Macedonians were a Dorian tribe, according to the testimony of Herodotus. Their country was cut off from the rest of Greece, to the south by a long chain of mountain ranges -Olympus (the Holy mountain of ancient Greeks) and to the west by the Pindos range, and lived until the 6th century by the teachings of the Homeric epic. Aegae (Edessa) became the first capital...
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
@maktifo
The Macedonians worshiped the 12 Olympian gods as the rest of the Greeks. The name Macednos is homeric word and means tall. All the kings of Macedonia had Greek names. Alexander's name is Greek. The word "Alexandros" is produced from the prefix alex(=protector) and the word andros(=man) meaning "he who protects from men". The prefix "alex" can be found in many Greek words today (alexiptoto=parachute, alexisfairo=bulletproof - all these words have the meaning of protection).
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
@maktifo
All the inscriptions on monuments,coins and other artifacts in Macedonia and also in Pakistan,India and Iran have the Greek language on them.There are no ancient monuments with a different language.An example is the inscribed base of a statue of Thessaloniki,of the 2nd c. B.C.Thessaloniki was Alexander's sister and the second in power city of Byzantium.The funny thing is that Slavs from Scopje call our city with the barbaric name Solun...
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
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@maktifo
They don't call her with the name of Alexander's sister, they don't call her with the Macedonian name Thessaloniki, because simply they are not Macedonians. They have to seach elsewhere to discover their roots.lol its really funny that when you show up some historic reports about Alexander or Macedonia they have nothing to say..
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
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@maktifo
They don't call her with the name of Alexander's sister, they don't call her with the Macedonian name Thessaloniki, because simply they are not Macedonians. They have to seach elsewhere to discover their roots.lol its really funny that when you show up some historic reports about Alexander or Macedonia they have nothing to say..
MrHooligan7 1 year ago
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Nop ....Macedonia is Not Greek ....
rokabililily 1 year ago
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GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
as an independent state The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia has in the past and will claim in the future exclusivity on the term Macedonia and its derivatives. “Macedonia” wants to have exclusive rights on the name Macedonia and its derivatives. The danger in this is that The FYROM could find patrons and then it could very well claim all adjacent Macedonian territories with the Capital of Greek Macedonia, Thessaloniki, as its prize.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
But even during the Roman Conquest, which continued into the Byzantine Era – a period of about one thousand years – that Roman territory, with Constantinople as its capital and Thessaloniki (in Macedonia) as a cultural and commercial center of the Empire, remained fully Hellenic. Furthermore, during Justinian’s time it adopted the Hellenic language as the formal and official Language of the Byzantine State. e.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
December 29, 2001: Even recently, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje, the Foreign Minister of The FYROM Slobodan Casule said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria Solomon Pasi that they “belong to the same Slav people.”
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
February 26, 1992: The FYROM’s President Kirov Gligorov, at an interview by the Foreign Information Service daily report, Eastern Europe, stated: “We are Slavs, who came to the region in the sixth century. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.
January 22, 1999: The FYROM’s Ambassador in Washington D.C.,
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
. As long as something took place in or someone was born in the Geographic Macedonia at any time from the beginning of time until today it was being changed into “Macedonian” meaning Slav.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
the FYROM is a unique case. The sole purpose of the creation of the Socialist Republic under the name “Macedonia” was the eventual claim and incorporation of Greek Macedonia into communist Yugoslavia with the port of Thessaloniki as the trophy. During the period of communist Yugoslavia, a systematic “macedonization” of everything possible took place.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
he region borders, as well as the relative terminology, exactly coincide with maps produced by ethnic Macedonian nationalists, before the overthrow of the Ottomans, and after the Treaty of Bucharest, 1913 and the division of the Macedonia region. Ethnic Macedonian nationalists have expressed claims to what they refer to as "Aegean Macedonia" (Greece), "Pirin Macedonia" (Bulgaria), "Mala Prespa and Golo Bardo" (Albania), and "Gora and Prohor Pchinski" (Serbia) despite the fact that today,
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
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H ιστορία των Σλάβων της πΓΔΜ είναι συνδεδεμένη με την ιστορία της Βουλγαρίας από τον έκτο αιώνα μ.Χ. μέχρι το έτος 1913.
Τα εδάφη της πΓΔΜ ήταν παλιότερα το νοτιότερο τμήμα της Γιουγκοσλαβίας. Ως το 1929 είχαν την ονομασία «Νότιος Σερβία» ("Јужна Србија" / "Južna Srbija"), ενώ την περίοδο 1929 - 1941 χαρακτηρίζονταν ως «Βαρντάρσκα Μπανόβινα» (Вардарска бановина / "Vardarska banovina"). Στους Σέρβους, η περιοχή είναι γνωστή ως Παλαιά Σερβία. Τ
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
hi file the real trues is red and yelov on flag . which means the flag with red and yellow Macedonian flag properly ... blood conquered territories along the path of the sun.
makedon1948 1 year ago
@makedon1948 I thought that it was just Mc Donalds, but ok, everyone can dream... hahaha You live in the ONLY temporary country of Europe and you will see that soon. You asked for too much, and that's why you will get nothing at last! Time is close...
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago 2
@makedon1948 u mean u use a dart-board as yr flag r u crazy?? no wonder
u r the laughing stock of the world,,,DART-BOARD u wankers??? loooseeers
ratzP 10 months ago
written on white paper are all clear that this is a newly composed together with you and Bulgaria do, all that is .macedonia been and will exist only macedonians.we have language that I have shown not as you say.the true evidence to us in writing abroad.On Macedonians not Greeks, you are described as a greeks.i to realize that the Macedonian part of you and the Bulgarians will be paying back a short time
makedon1948 1 year ago
@makedon1948 Macedonian language? You are speaking a slavic language, if you don't know, and Slavs came to this area 1000 years aftre Alexander the Great. Does this makes any sense to you? I'm sure it does hahaha
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago
@makedon1948 change your avatar, cause in that scene of the movie, Alexander says "... for the glory of Greece...". Isn't it funny?
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago 5
:48 Herodotus also relates the incident of the participation of Alexander I of Macedon in the Olympic Games in 504 or 500 BC where the participation of the Macedonian king was contested by participants on the grounds that he was not Greek. The Hellanodikai, however, after examining his Argead claim confirmed that the Macedonians were in fact Greek and allowed him to participate.
Macedonians are from Argos, Peloponnesos.
Thanks Sponge Bob, Greeks keep educating each other, protect our culture.
Spartan404 1 year ago
THIS VID ROCKS MACEDONIA IS ONLY greek GO TO HELL FYROM BASTARDS...GREEK PATRIOTS WILL BE HERE FOR ETERNITY WHICH MEANS U WILL NOT
ellasAPOEL36 1 year ago
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this video will clear up the whole issue
watch?v=EC937xQPKNM
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
one word HERONEA
any answer?
maktifo 1 year ago
@maktifo Your answer also with one wold: UNHISTORICAL
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago
@maktifo
One word: YUGOSLAVIA
any answer ?
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763
you did not answer on HERONEAM BUT I WILL ANSWER
Yugoslavia: Slovenia, Croatia,Bosnia,Montenegro,Vojvodina,Serbia,Kosovo and MACEDONIA
maktifo 1 year ago
@maktifo
VARDARSKA is the name of the region. Don't mock yourself.
You are SLAVS or Slaves of the New World Order.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 all Slavs nations accept our language, letter who invited Kiril and Metodij. and ques where they are born? ANSWER: Thessaloniki. Before 1900 there weren't Greeks in Thessaloniki, Just Macedonians, Turks, Jewes and Vlavs.
maktifo 1 year ago
@maktifo
Kiril and Metodij the way you write them were Greeks of Macedonia and their names have Greek origin.
Thessaloniki has the name of Alexander's sister and Soloun only Slavs know what it means. Accept the facts and don't make fictional stories of what you would like to read.
Besides, the word history is Greek.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@IllyrianArberore 1912,1914,1940
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago
@IllyrianArberore How do we call that empty space between your ears?
Re oust albanopithika!
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago
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Alexander addressing the dead GREEKS after the battle of Chaeronia:
"Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
Curtius Rufus 6,3,11 Historia
hoplitespao 1 year ago
i'm albanian...and i have to admit....macedonia is greek todays macedonia is nothing but slavo-bulgarian, with albanian turkish and other..... todays macedonian map doesn't even repersent ancient macedonian land.... since when was Skopje part of anceint macedonia or even the capital city? it was part of dardania and the capital city of dardania not macedonia..... todays macedonians are nothing but fake fakedonians
sweet4melody 1 year ago 2
Macedonians participated in Olympic Games, a privilige only for GREEKS.
Now go and fuck your selves , New World Order ASSHOLES
RETTELLAS 1 year ago
bravo re megale, k gamo ta kanalia...
kyriakossalonidis 1 year ago
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There is an inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in Skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει
I m sure it will be easy for Skopians to translate the language of their suposed ancestors lolski
hoplitespao 2 years ago
I believe that macedonia is greek, it's capital was deep into greek soil near the aegean.
Arabastai 2 years ago 2
I am a Brit with business interests in the actual country Macedonia. Personally I think it was an ancient country with borders in what is now Greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria. Personally I dont see the point of all the arguing. Macedonia (or whats left of it today) is so small its not hurting anyone. What is the point of Greece continuing to make waves in the EU. There should be an independant EU investigation, but Greece would have to agree to live with whatever the result either way.
SymonDymond 1 year ago
@SymonDymond I saw all your recent comments at your channel page. All about Macedonian issue.
Stange for a "Brit", isn't it? hahaha
Re oust.....
SpongebobSquarebrain 1 year ago
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apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
SeNioRoTatOs 2 years ago
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fwbz 2 years ago
@fwbz your stupid comment doesn't suit at serious issues like this, that you know shit about. Your presence here insults every human with IQ over 80. Get lost!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
@fwbz so what...
haven't you ever watched a military video, for example, with american music?
btw what does this have to do? you could just have stated if you agree with the facts mentioned or not...maybe u don't so you're trying to inflict criticism on the music because there was nothing else you could say, yes?
i'm wondering if you're 100% German...if you do..well fuck you anyways..
Marinemauro 2 years ago
katalaveno einai polu asximo mia xora na min exei dikia tis istoria....alla einai aparadekto na prospathei na klepsei tin istoria kapoias alis kai akoma poio aparadektoi einai autoi pou sinipografoun se auto!!!!einai alithia oti o neoellinas exei katantisei ligo vlakas k anistoritos alla einai ellinas k xerei na apantaei k na polemaei gia tin patrida tou k gia auta pou tou anikoun.....i makedonia itan einai k tha einai elliniki .....giauto skopianoi kathiste fronima!!!!!!!
kamilieris23 2 years ago
MAKEDONIA IS GREEK!!!!!! whatever you say that's the truth!!!!! and of course ALEXANDER the GREAT was and will always be a greek man!!!!!!!!!!!
elita22flo 2 years ago
@NorwayMacedonia
Have you seen the video? Any comment about these quotes? I guess not!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
Greek never existed. Macedonia is the Truth. The first land.
MizzLoveable03 2 years ago
Sure MizzLoveable03! Now play at your room and be quiet!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
watch this and ... -> watch?v=DwY5cLtyyYw
macedonianimation 2 years ago
Macedonia is BULGARIAN LAND, becouse there live BULGARIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!
magician854 2 years ago
Macedonia is a a part of Greek land and history. Monkeydonia might be Boulgarian. Who cares :)
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
THE LAND WHERE BULGARIANS LEAV IS NOT CALLED MACEDONIA! it is called FYROM or skopia! You cannot call that land "Macedonia" just because your stupid nation wants to be part of Macedonia
esta49 2 years ago
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MACEDONIA - CHINESE LAND!!
AvonRuLeZ 2 years ago
TELEIO....
BRAVO
vardarSKATOvski 2 years ago 3
MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!
Tomi19N 2 years ago
We agree! And Macedonians were another Greek tribe. Thank you!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
Exactly!But your slavic country is not macedonia..That means GTFO this video..Uneducated dirty slavic bastard..FUCK RUSSIA!FUCK BULGARIA!FUCK ALBANIANS!FUCK EVERY SINGLE SLAVIC PUSSY OUTTHERE!WE ARE GREEKS AND WE NOT GONA LET ANYONE TO TAK EOUR HISTORY..!
kwstas1995 2 years ago
SIMPLE!!!
Macedonians had the same language, the same religion, used the same names, served the same arts, used the same architecture, the same heroes, the same customs, the same rituals, the same traditions, the same myths, and olympic games patricipation as all other Hellenes!!! Macedonians were (and are)Hellenes.
MACEDONIA is HELLAS.
FYROM is FYROM.
HellasItalia4 2 years ago 6
look all they names are greek great alexander from the greek name "Alexandros" or his father philipos from the greek name "FILIPOS" ´macedinia is greek
aekakiboy21 2 years ago
Κοίτα από πού βρήκαν την σημαία τους οι ηλίθιοι.Είναι τελείως βλαμένοι!!!
FYROM FLAG 1 NEW - Named by the Flag "SAMBALCANIA"
LYNGISTAIOS 2 years ago
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why dont you all idiots who are sending all thoose fake videos check sme ancient roman,persian any kind of maps and see if you can find greece first then talk about our macedonia.GREECE=OTTOMAN REPUBLIC OF YUNANISTAN
Filsoh 2 years ago
poor Filip!!!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
check the maps before 1944 and see if you can find skopje and then talk about Greece.The democratic ideas that you have today were first said by Greeks 2400 years ago.When we studied philosophy and maths you were hiding in the caves.When Greeks fought the Axis your people licked hitlers balls to create a useless nation that will be a part of Bulgaria when america abandon you.
lefzn000 2 years ago
Learn some history you FYROM Monkeydonian...stay away from Greek history. Go steal some Chinese history or something... Rename your county 'Ching Chong Ching'
SeattleEllinas 2 years ago 18
@SeattleEllinas lol, that was funny as shit!
Spartan404 1 year ago
wth are you talking about?
are you saying greece never existed.. EVER?
rofl omg.. fail
nickdo 2 years ago
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SHAME OF YOU GREEKS! Philip was wanted to destroy Greece! He Destroy Greek army in the battle at Chearonea 338 B.C. Also his son Aleksander the great destroy the Greeks cities Theba and Athens in 355 B.C. THE GREEK DEMOSTENUS SAID: -Macedonians are varvars. They never will be greeks!... And now you Greeks said that Macedonia is greek? SHAME OF YOU GREEKS! MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS! MACEDONIA NEVER GREEK!!!
peceheraklea 2 years ago
Truth be told peceheraklea, you dont know dick about ancient Macedonia.
driftermorrelo 2 years ago
It saddens me that Yuguslavian people take the name Macedonia for their country while they have nothing to do with it. It is a lack of respect to the ancient Macedonians to be honest.
WoIfshead 2 years ago 22
And thats only the beggining my friend, they find themselves between a nation without any sign of ancient or modern history and politicians with words full of propaganda and lies. I think we all can see their choise...!
WarAce111 2 years ago 3
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This is a shame video! Greece took half Macedonia(51%) in a Balkan war 1913 with the peaceful contract of Bucurest! SHAME OF YOU GREEKS!!!
peceneshkovski 2 years ago
Oug monkey! Oug!
SpongebobSquarebrain 2 years ago
It's so strange though...all Skopjan comments are like "FAK U GAY GREKZ!!11one!1 WE ARE TEH MAKEDONZ!!! <3"...stupid trolls. :-)
At least we're both Christians! :D
Leylaqq 3 years ago
both Christians?500000 turkoi zoun sta skopia simera...
Downtownfoxie 3 years ago
MAKEDONZ like at the ancient scripts!
hahaha comedians
SpongebobSquarebrain 3 years ago
The Greeks never considered other greek speaking populations as barbarian (the onomatopia of the word in greek means just that "var..var..var..var" is the only thing you hear when a barbarian talked )Alexander the great was talkin ,reading and righting 80% similar greek with todays greek , a 5 year old greek child can read a macedonian script 2500 years old ,on the other hand a fyromian "no one" need a greek translator to read anything macedonian (try the experiment)
noaudito 3 years ago
One of the frequent users of the term barbarian in order to slander his political opponents was Demosthenes. His most known victim was Philip of Macedon. Not many people thought know that Demosthenes used it also against one of his political opponents, the Athenean orator Aristogeiton [Against Aristogeiton II. 26.17]
ellamou 3 years ago 2
However the ultimate proof of Greek tribes being called barbarians is coming from Athenaios Deipnosophistes where Stratonicus the harp-player was asked πότερα Βοιωτοί βαρβαρώτεροιή θετταλοί, Ηλείους έφησεν meaning who were the greatest Barbarians, the Boeotians or the Thessalians and he replied the Eleans.
ellamou 3 years ago
Another example is the dialogue between Socrates and Strepsiadis in Aristophanes Clouds. At a certain moment Socrates call Strepsiadis ανθρωπός αμαθές ουτώσι και βάρβαρος. meaning barbarian and with out knowledge ,make even clearer the term barbaros was used as a derogatory term since Strepsiadiswas a well-known Athenian. Unless skopjans insist on believing Atheneans werent greeks either.
ellamou 3 years ago
Those, plus the fact that Macedonians were considered a bit of Barbarians, because they were kind less educated and more...barbaric, let's say brutal. ;-)
Thanks, ellamou!!! :D
Leylaqq 3 years ago
boo be da vi ebam sve zivo grcko! pleme vase izizvrteno! i jas najdov so vas da si gi ebavam greojte!
at least say thank you to macedonia, it only gave you everything you have (and i mean greece, bulgaria, serbia and every single other asshole in this region)
kopiljina be!!!!!!!!!!!!
dimegos 3 years ago
γαμήσου μπάσταρδε...macedonia is greek u fucker(s)
DONOOFTIME 3 years ago 5
wtf??? you fuckin asshole, even plutarch admited that alexander is non-hellen (well half-hellen, remember ohis mother) and that he speaks a language that is NOT UNDERSTANDABLE to the gayreeks. every ancient historian claims alexander to be a macedonian! how dumb can u get! stop stealing our history! we gave you the half of our territory and you still want more? we can give you a "candy" if you stop the propaganda, eh mates, what say you:D:D:D:D:D:D
hehehehehehe! fucked up greek brains!
dimegos 3 years ago
we know all greeks that alexander was macedonian but macedonian -greek like spartan-greek,like athenian-greek.the recognition of your fake country as macedonia is based undouptably on polikal reasons.if you want to find the truth make a research of your own.(not in your country off course)
capturedagain87 3 years ago 2
THANKS.. HellenicAngel for sharing... Kisses....
ratitafea 3 years ago
twra to eida mexri telos..ton parthenwna sto telos ti ton thelete??? :SSSS
Estelleeeeee 3 years ago
Για ομορφιά τον έβαλα.
SpongebobSquarebrain 3 years ago
No Skopjans comment on this vid!!! Ahahahaha... :P
Leylaqq 3 years ago
The Greeks never considered other greek speaking populations as barbarian (the onomatopia of the word in greek means just that "var..var..var..var" is the only thing you hear when a barbarian talked )Alexander the great was talkin ,reading and righting 80% similar greek with todays greek , a 5 year old greek child can read a macedonian script 2500 years old ,on the other hand a fyromian "no one" need a greek translator to read anything macedonian (try the experiment)
i thing you should know
noaudito 3 years ago
so what about "Demosten and yours10Phillipikis" - and a.... philip used to speak greek, he was in a greek jail for some time right? than why was he considered a barberian? and when alexander came to power - he had to deal with an uprising in greece! they thought that alexander is too young and too weak and alexander burned thebes to the ground, right? USE YOUR LOGIC MY SON! and you'll see the TRUTH you always seek! you fucked up idiot!
dimegos 3 years ago
Another example is the dialogue between Socrates and Strepsiadis in Aristophanes Clouds. At a certain moment Socrates call Strepsiadis ανθρωπός αμαθές ουτώσι και βάρβαρος. This make even clearer the term barbaros was used as a derogatory term since Strepsiadiswas a well-known Athenian. Unless skopjans insist on believing Atheneans werent greeks either.
ellamou 3 years ago
The Greek key design was the most important symbol in Ancient Greece as it represented infinity and unity. Most ancient Greek temples incorporate the sign of the Greek key. Even the shield of Philip, the second king of Macedonia, was decorated with multiple symbols of the Greek key.
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insignia3825 3 years ago
I like this video for its unique and objective nature.
KirilMKD 3 years ago
GREEK OF COURSE
zoeargiris 3 years ago
In Ancient Greek
Αυτός τε γαρ Έλλην ειμί γένος τωρχαίον
In English
I am myself a Greek by ancient descent.
Alexander I of Macedonia
(Ancestor of Phillip II and Alexander the Great)
In Herodotus book Kalliopi,IX,45.
divxakias 3 years ago 5
Aristotelis, the teacher of Alexander the Great says about the rivers in Macedonia (Meteorologika, Book I, Par. 13):
"Of the rivers in the Greek world, the Achelous flows from Pindus, the Inachus from the same mountain; the Strymon, the Nestus, and the Hebrus all three from Scombrus; many rivers, too, flow from Rhodope."
maryoik 3 years ago 3
United Nations General Assembly:Resolutions #193(27 November 1948)and #288(18 November 1949) condemned the kidnapping of roughly 28,000 Greek children by communist guerrillas and their removal to eastern Europe countries..!
Those two UN Resolutions are also calling for their return to their Greek families.
testmagox 3 years ago
"I fully support the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces and i welcome the adoption of House Resolution #514 of March 22,1950 calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland."
Harry S.Truman
President of the USA,April 18 1950
testmagox 3 years ago 2
even the name alexander is greek, too...
Alexander or in greek Alexandros means the man who drive away the men..!! ( alex= drive away, andras = man) i am telling all these for those who think Alexander the great wasn't greek.......
Mamothremeno 3 years ago 2
govetce i guess u were there in this conversation and u know that.because everybody knows that macedonians as all greek states and greek kingdoms we taking part in olympic games
nikoskoukos2 3 years ago
if macedonia is greek
then why when Aleksandar MAKEDONSKI asked greek king can he play in olimpic games, the greek's king answer was: Olimpic games are only for greeks, AND YOU CANT PLAY BICOUSE YOU ARE NOT GREEK
govetce 3 years ago
If you only knew how funny sounds the "Aleksandar MAKEDONSKI"!!!
Take a look at the other video: "Macedonian Kings and Coins" and you'll see why "Aleksandar" is funny.
This video is full of quotes and sources. Take it or leave it. I don't blame you people for what you believe. They made a history just to create a fake nation.
TheChaonian 3 years ago
WHY you forgot to tell us that ALEXANDROS A' finally participated to the OLYMPIC GAMES? Because AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU he proved that HE AND Macedonians are GREEK!
FREE OF CHARGE HISTORY LESSONS FOR ALL BRAIN WASHED WANNABEMACEDONIANS
tourbox1 3 years ago 2
thats half the story.they asked him to prove that he is a greek and he proved it easily cause the macedonian royal house was originated from argos.he took part in the olympics and he won the first place on the running contest.
empirerulesall 3 years ago 2
his grandpa,not him!
Estelleeeeee 3 years ago
Ε γι'αυτόν μιλάμε,για τον Αλέξανδρο τον πρώτο,όχι τον Μέγα.
empirerulesall 3 years ago
kala kale..mh me fas :DDDDD
Estelleeeeee 3 years ago
Think before you talk....
soadilias 3 years ago
bg02261989 3 years ago
GREEK OF COURSE!
WatchOutDuck 3 years ago
1. Macedonians spoke GREEK language.
2. Macedonians had GREEK names.
3. Alexanders name is GREEK.
4. Philips name is also GREEK.
5. The regions of ancient Macedonia had GREEK names.
6. Macedonian architecture was same to the GREEK architecture.
7. Macedonians took part in the Olympic Games.
8. Macedonians celebrated the same festivals as the rest of the GREEKS.
9. Macedonians worshiped the same Gods as the rest of the GREEKS.
divxakias 3 years ago 2
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1) lol. We had our own language, you actually gave us the nickname of barbariens. If you don't know greek here's a hint - it means that we had a unknown language and "evil culture"
2) yes we had greek names. So?
3) read 2)
4) read 2)
5) read 2)
6) Hell no.. Compare southern greece to moder excavations in "greek" macedonia. Any resemblance? nope.
7) Nope we didn't. One king once decided to go by the name of a greek so that he could enter but no, no others.
8)No.
9) no.
Hope that answered all!!!!
kompirmanga 3 years ago
Your ancestors never even lived ANYWHERE near ancient Macedonia - in fact the Slavs (because that IS what you are) only moved to that region of the world around 6th century, more than 10 centuries after Alexander the Great, and thus you have no connection to that GREEK line of ancestry.
LOL, imagine the ridiculous idea of Alexander speaking ..........a Slavic language and not Greek.
Do you see how silly your ridiculous arguments are?
divxakias 3 years ago
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Yes, They came in the 6th century and we were met here by people that lived in these lands. The people that lived here, if you don't know, were the Maceedonians paeonians and the dorians ((or something). The macedonians Never actually mixed with the hellass's and they never actually accepted the hellas's culture. But when the slavs came, they did mix with them. Therefore we are the decendants of the macedonians who lived on this territory and the slavs who inhabited it centurys later.
kompirmanga 3 years ago
1.The name Macedonia came from the ancient Dorian Greeks who were called "Macedni". The language they spoke in ancient times was Greek.
2.The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks who entered the area of Macedonia at about 1100 B.C. long before any Slavic population appeared in that part of the world.
divxakias 3 years ago
Macedonians lived around Thessaloniki,Greece! You have been told a funny story and you believed it, no matter if it does not make any sense. Macedonians spread Hellenism had Greek names, but they did accept and lived with Slavs and not Greeks? Think!
TheChaonian 3 years ago
As sunxwrame pou pe8ane prin thn wra tou o Megas oramatisths kai Ellhnas.
Tetoia me8odo eksolo8reuseis pi8ikwn mono ena tetoio mualo 8a thn kseftotan.Tous prosilitize,tous baftize "ellhnes" tous edine dikaiwmata kai o apoteros skopos pisteuw htan h maziki eksolo8reush tous.Alla pou na katalaboun oi gyrw tou?autoi ston kosmo tous pws na pane na gamisoun tis ginekoules tous kai poia xwrafia 8a paroun.
astaroth7878 3 years ago
εξοχο βιντεο οπως παντα..
fromgreek1 3 years ago
Και συμπληρώνω,ας μην έχουμε εσφαλμενες αντιλήψεις για το έργο του Αλεξανδρου και ας το ψάξουμε.Πολοί λένε οτι μετέδωσε τον Ελληνικό πολιτισμό και καλά και ηταν πρόδρομος για να καθιερωθεί ο Χριστιανισμός.Αυτά παιδιά, είναι ΜΠΟΥΡΔΕΣ, και καπέλωμα της πραγματικότητας.
.Αλλο ήταν το όραμα του Αλέξανδρου. Ας το ψάξει ο καθένας λοιπόν....
NorthenLight1 3 years ago 2
Μπράβο φίλε !
Αυτά να τα βλέπει και η Ντόρα που είναι έτοιμη σήμερα να προδώσει τη χώρα της...
SyllogikiMnimi 3 years ago 4
Οι Μακεδονες ηταν Ελληνες και αυτο πιστευαν για τον εαυτο τους. Αλλα και οι λαοι (Περσες, Εβραιοι, Αιγυπτιοι κ.λ.π) δεν τους ξεχωριζαν απο τους Ελληνες. Οναμαζαν το Μεγα Αλεξενδρο ..βασιλεα των Ελληνων... Ο Αποστολος Παυλος οταν ηρθε να πρωτοκηρυξει το χριστιανισμο, στους Φιλιππους, στη Θεσσαλονικη, στη Βεροια στα Ελληνικα κηρυξε και στα Ελληνικα εγραψε τις δυο ..προς Θεσσαλονικεις.. επιστολες του, και την ..Φιλιππησιους..
ApollwNotos 3 years ago
Οι Σλαβοι εμφανιστηκαν στα βαλκανια επι Βυζαντιου. Δηλαδη πολλους αιωνες (περιπου 1.000 χρονια μετα το Μεγα Αλεξανδο. Η γλωσσα που μιλουσαν οι αρχαιοι Μακεδονες ειναι η Ελληνικη, οπως μαρτυρουν οι δεκαδες επιγραφες και τα αρχαια μνημεια. Η Θρησκεια και ο πολιτισμος τους ηταν ολοιδια με των υπολοιπων Ελληνων.
Την Ελληνικη γλωσσα και τον Ελληνικο πολιτισμο διεδωσε εξ αλλου ο Αλεξανδρος στις χωρες της Ανατολης, μεχρι τη μακρινη Ινδια, μεχρι την Αιγυπτο.
ApollwNotos 3 years ago 2
Επέτρεψέ μου φίλε να σε διορθώσω ,ο Ελληνικός πολιτισμός ήταν ηδη γνωστός πρίν πάει ο Αλέξανδρος στην ανατολή. Και οι Πέρσες μάθαιναν Ελλληνικά , και στην Αίγυπτο ακόμη.Επήσης είναι γνωστές και οι εκστρατείες του Διονύσου και του Ηρακλή πρός Ινδιες (με όποιους Έλληνες και εάν εκπροσωπήσαν αυτα τα ονόματα).Οι σλάβοι καμία σχέση βέβαια με Έλληνες ,όπως πολύ σωστά εμφνίστηκαν 1000 χρονια μετα τον Αλέξανδρο στην περιοχή.
NorthenLight1 3 years ago 3
Επέτρεψε μου λοιπόν να διρθώσω και εγώ, ένας πολιτισμός δεν περιορίζεται στη γλώσσα(πόσο μάλλον όταν ανφερόμαστε στο ογκοδέστατο οικοδόμημα του ελληνισμου)Ο Αλέξανδρος μετέδωσε ελληνισμό τον χρησιμοποίησε ορθά το αποτέλεσμα μάλλον ήταν πετυχημένο.Το τι οραματίζονταν ο Αλέξανδρος πιθανότατα μόνο αυτος το ξέρει και όχι εμείς, που τον παρατηρούμε μέσα απο παρωπίδες της εκάστοτε μαλακίας που ακούγεται
CASTRER 3 years ago
Ποιός είπε ότι περιορίζεται μόνο στην γλώσσα?
Απλά η γλώσσα είναι το πρωταρχικό βασικό και μυστήρια υπήρξαν και επιστήμες και πολλά άλλα που είχαν ήδη μεταδωσει οι Έλληνες σε άλλους. ...Πώς πάει φίλε ?....
Εχεις δίκο άν και κάποια πράγματα είναι φανερά για το τί , και άλλα όχι.Φτάνει να βλέπει κανείς χωρίς παρωπίδες και να μελετά οσο δυνατόν περισσότερες έγγυρες πηγές.
NorthenLight1 3 years ago
Όλα καλά,ελπίζω το ίδιο και εκεί μεριά(καλό το βίντεο με τη μοτο αλλά καλύτερα να μην φτιάξεις αλλο...)Ο Αλέξανδρος(ο αγαπημένος μου) είναι και αυτός παγιδευμένος στο μπέρδεμα μύθος῏ἶστορία.Επίσης λοίπουν κάποια κεφάλαια απο την ιστορία του (αυτό το φημισμένο ἕκλεισε πύλες῾που εγώ θεωρούσα οτι είναι η γνώση του να προστατευέι την νόηση του)κάποτε πρέπει να ανακτήσουμε την κληρονομιά μας.Πόσες φορές μου περνά απο το μυαλό να κάνω πλιάτσικο στο Αγιο Όρος τι τα κρύβουν τα γαμημένα!
CASTRER 3 years ago
Επίσης στην είσοδο Αγίας Λαύρας υπάρχουν οι άγιο Αριστοτέλης και Πλάτωνας!!!(αν θυμάμαι καλά για τη μονή)Τα χειρόγραφα πρέπει να φύγουν απο εκεί δεν είναι η θέση τους εκεί
CASTRER 3 years ago
Α , το είχα ηδη έτοιμο.Οπως και κάποια άλλα αλλα δεν τα βαζω , θα με κλείσουν μέσα. Το βραδάκι θα μπώ στο γνωστό μέρος αν είσαι τα λέμα καλύτερα.Που να δείς το βατικανό τι έχει φίλε.Μερικά βγήκαν στην φόρα και τους κυνηγήσανε αυτου΄ς που τα είπανε.Εχω και μερικες φωτό από κώδικες αν είναι στα στέλνω.
Και άγιος Πυθαγόρας και υπάρχει κτλ. Θα τα πούμε. Να σε καλά φίλε.
NorthenLight1 3 years ago
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greek mans are no mans they are gey and alexander of macedonia kill greek people so how he can be greek if he kill greeks. stupid greeks
mikitinooo 3 years ago
mikitinooo You created a fake accound just to tell me that Greeks are not men enough? Your fake account proves me what you realy are!
SpongebobSquarebrain 3 years ago
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macedonia is not greek!
Kikicathebest 3 years ago
po re file pos ta les SWSTOS SWSTOS mpravo
my friend u said it very well, ur rught 100% bravo
grkunion 3 years ago 4
Τα video που θα φτιάχνετε θα πρέπει να δείχνουν καθαρά το ΟΜΑΙΜΟΝ, ΟΜΟΓΛΩΣΣΟΝ ΟΜΟΘΡΗΣΚΟΝ και ΟΜΟΤΡΟΠΟΝ, στους αρχαιους σε σχέση με τους σημερινούς. Και βέβαια ΚΑΝΕΝΑ ΑΠΟ ΑΥΤΑ δεν υπάρχει στους σλάβους.ΟΜΑΙΜΟΝ.ΓΙατί αποκρύπτεται η ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΛΟΓΙΑ απο τον κόσμο???
NorthenLight1 3 years ago 6