Full Twisting Tsukahara Drills - Mas Watanabe

[thegymnasticminute]

True the difference between a Kasamatsu and Tsukahara is the twisting direction. Men make the distinction, the womens code doesn't. This is Kasamatsu's vault.

[turtlegym1]

yeah, shouldn't she be twisting the other way? She's a righty, so she's not really getting a full twist out of it. She's kind of blending the half on with the twist.

[GeoffTaucer]

@turtlegym1 No, because she's performing a kazamatsu -- which is a far easier technique.

Very important to understand the distinction between a tsuk 1/1 and a kazamatsu -- shame he didn't explain it here.

[rockygaz]

@GeoffTaucer Kaz is not necessarily easier. My coach tried to teach me a Kaz, but in the end it went back to a tsuk with twisting because I found it easier that way.

[GeoffTaucer]

@rockygaz It depends on which way you naturally twist. Whether you should be doing a tsuk 1/1 or a kaz is dependent on a couple of things which are established long before you start training skills at this level. If you don't twist the correct direction for a kaz, it will of course be nearly impossible for you to learn one. Based on what I've seen in training, though, gymnasts who are learning a kaz tend to pick it up much faster and more easily than gymnasts who are learning a tsuk 1/1

[denn333]

I know that, rarely, a gymnast can learn a wrong-side entry--to "match" the twist direction in a Kas. Did Sean Golden do that? He does right roundoffs and left twists, so he did Tsuks (at least until 2006). But I remember that he later tried learning a Kas. I wonder if he changed entry side rather than twist side.

[RickMcCharles]

Should explain that this is not a Tsuk 1/1, but rather what Men call "Kasamatsu".

1/4-on, 3/4-off

[Fightflipnfold]

@RickMcCharles

What's funny is that Mas makes that distinction on his GymSmarts video on Tsuks/Kasamatsu".