2010 Spyker C8 Aileron Review

[ChristewieTV]

Wait til they put the engine from the ZR1 in this badboy. SHHHHH you didn't hear that from me

[halflifemasta]

as clarkson said: "it goesh like shtink"

[kuel]

how does this compare to the spyder with manual tranny? even though its easier to live with does it lack the fun from the spyder?.... honestly i'm just interested in how u felt about this paddle shift tranny compared to the manual one

[grimlock122]

i thought it was all made of magiks and awsomness

[spartandy]

matt how much for a spyker c8 aileron???

[coolrex555]

It's awesome but I gotta be honest that i like the 2009 model better

[chewyRite2]

Hey.. is the engine the same one in the Audi R8?

[dobropivo]

@chewyRite2 yes its the same as a rs4 and a r8 4.2

[aalex169]

great wheels

[chris93TV]

Just listen to the sound! :D

And the Aileron is just the Pride of Holland :D

[jml8841]

400HP is actually the base model. I've visited the factory a couple of weeks ago and they said you can order the engine in different power-stages. From stage 1 (400HP) to stage 4 (620HP).

[t1mmy13]

Damn im proud to be dutch :P

[lamboisking]

lol it has an airbag!

[ENINNALP]

to bad it doesn't include a razor for douche bags...

[browntowel67]

is that a real rolex? lol its mad nice

[sockerdood11]

Those pedals were pretty cool looking. But since when were lambos and ferraris boring?

[WirelessPineapple]

Wait...he said that Lambos and Ferraris were boring?

[whiteboy5480]

that car is a work or art. just needs more power

[achp400]

Weird but I have seen 2 on the road in newport.

[CardiffCentral]

Spyker....ditch the Audi steering wheel. All the hours of craftsmanship in the cabin is let down by the not so special looking steering wheel.

[robbievie]

@CardiffCentral the steering wheel is because of the us regulations where all cars should have airbags. in europe you'll get the original steering wheel

[DutchManticore]

@CardiffCentral

The car actually has an awesome steeringwheel in Europe, but it isn't allowed in the US because in the US an airbag is mandatory.

[Howie262]

aluiminum, leather, and glass..... NICE!!!

No cheap japanese plastic shit here!!!

Great job spyker!

i love how they bought saab too!

they're going to add a whole new difenition to "born From Jets"!

[AHFlynn]

jesus christ. the megaman background music will drive me insane.

[DJFG85]

This car actually does have ABS, but no TCS or stability control. They did this to make it more of a drivers car (it's not like you would drive this in the rain or snow anyway)

[dilliot2k]

lol @ the tow truck racing. lol

[felipebh17]

it has a lamborghini volant?

[emiekaee]

this is a real great lookin car. the manuel gearbox realy taks the interiur to an other level. i'm damn proud of it

[Jermainesmit21]

Great looking cars (back is not that good looking do) But i see one thing that is bad on the steering/shifting. The shifts at the steering dont move with the steering wheel this means when your in a turn or something you cannot shift that way in a fast order because you have to move your hand... That is bad (A)

[keepin201]

its true i only seen one spyker in nyc nd that shit was really turning heads

[carsismeZ06]

C8 Aileron FTW

[timbokiet1]

im proud of my country!

[monsterenergy713]

This car is outlandish... I like that

[Erwinismyname]

if i had lots of money,

i would buy this C8 aileron AND and the c8 spyder double 12(Long Wheelbase).

im proud of my country!

[samgar2]

400 hp... at first I thought that was nothing in comparison to the 550hp-range Italian sportscars, but then I realized in the real world, you don't need more than 400... And for the rest the Spyker is excellent.

[evoandy]

it also weighs less than the vast majority of cars that have that kind of horsepower. i don't doubt the spyker has fantastic performance. I think it was mostly designed to be stylish though....

[Mdejong112]

Even an aluminium airbag! Ouch! ;)

[AlternativeUses]

looks like an aston martin on acid

[Blakeoffire]

Paddle shift... great. Making it 'easier to drive' for the increasingly incapable North American driver/market that just loves gimmicky shit and has no understanding as to what the 'thrill of driving' is really about. Spyker should have offered a manual-only for the Aileron, thereby weeding out all of the inevitable posers that will buy this car, purely to flaunt their gold watches and tasteless, manicured facial hair. You don't DRIVE a paddle-shift car... you just steer and brake.

[Toolband42O]

@Blakeoffire So if you don't drive it. Does it have some sort of AI embedded in it? Or is it that you sir are clearly ignorant and have no real insight into anything relevant in the world, except for a fucking YouTube video

[Blakeoffire]

Your asking if I'm ignorant..? And questioning if I have no real insight as to what's relevant in the world.. just because I'm addressing the obvious cultural shift in the type of drivers that are buying these cars..?!? Wake up, please. There's a very clear reason why the new Ferrari 458 Italia is paddle-shift-only with no manual option available anymore. Ferrari even admits it openly. The Spyker Aileron is phenomenal, but you remove a crucial interaction with any car once you plop in a paddle.

[evoandy]

the ferrari 458 italia is much faster with a dual clutch unit than it ever would have been with a manual. Ferrari didn't feel the need to reengineer anything for the car just to make it slower, when they designed the entire powertrain from the ground up to incorporate the DCT.

[Blakeoffire]

Well yes, we all know that any dual clutch system will be slightly faster (not faster overall though... really now) at shifting cogs than a human rowing a manual gearbox...that's a no brainer. My point is that Ferrari chose to not include a manual option because 90% of the people that buy Ferraris nowadays don't really know how-to, nor care to learn how-to drive a manual. And they'll never understand that you're losing out on vital interactions and feedback btwn yourself and the car w/paddles.

[evoandy]

um.... not faster overall? what are you talking about? faster and more consistent gearshifts = faster overall. Ferrari chose not to include the manual option because it was unneccessary. you're either being needlessly pessimistic, or just playing devil's advocate, but there is nothing "vital" about the feedback of a clutch and a gearshift lever. Its more involvement, and a lot of people think its more fun, but its not "vital". what does that even mean?

[Blakeoffire]

Maybe .05sec faster on a racetrack/ straight-line perhaps... but in the real world..? Hardly a big enough difference. And why do you think Ferrari deemed a manual 'unneccessary'..? Market research plays a very large part in what goes into cars these days. Learn that please.. Nothing vital is lost without a proper clutch..?? Are you even aware of the 'thrill of driving'..? and do you understand 'vehicle interaction'?..and what is lost when you throw in an automatic (ie:paddle) transmission.?

[evoandy]

back to back comparisons have shown most cars equipped with DSGs to lap full seconds faster than their manual counterparts, and get to 60 and through the 1/4 mile full tenths, to almost full seconds faster. Ferrari deemed the manual unneccessary for the same reason they deemed cast iron brakes to be unneccessary. It dilutes the car's performance.

[Blakeoffire]

Yes, but you're just reading the company-line/hype. Of course they're going to emphasize those figures in justifying their actions to the general public. Thing is, do you spend your entire driving life doing 0-60 sprints and lapping your local race track..? No, you don't. And neither do 95% of those that buy Ferraris nowadays. There's only two reasons why you'd opt for paddle-shift in a road car. 1. It's easier to drive, gimmicky, and makes you look good..or 2. You don't know how to drive manual

[evoandy]

so you don't think that ANYONE would buy a DSG over the manual because it actually performs better? thats insane.

[TheSmokingTire]

I think what he's trying to say is that there are two reasons for buying a paddle shift car:

1) It is the top of the technology pyramid and gives the car a more "exotic feel"

2) They don't want to, or don't know how to drive a manual gearbox.

The sad part is that most of the drivers who buy paddle shift cars have no intention of ever running a timed lap in the car, where the precious tenths would really make a difference, and that even though it's not as fast, stick cars are just more fun.

[TheSmokingTire]

I have driven many Ferrari F430's, including the Scuderia, and the best one I've ever piloted was a 430 Spider with a stick, and hearing MY OWN throttle blips out the back while feeling the click-clack of a gated shifter on a downshift is much, much much more satisfying than the quarter second you've saved because you only had to hit a paddle.

[DJFG85]

Actually many people who own a paddle shift automatics usually don't use them. This is especially true with non-exotics like a Mercedes or Audi sedan. This is also the reason Maserati was prompted to offer an "Automatic" next to a paddle shift that can already be driven in just auto mode.

[TheSmokingTire]

@DJFG85 No, the reason Maserati was prompted to offer an automatic is because the Ferrari F1 transmission worked like ass in the Quattroporte.

[DJFG85]

@TheSmokingTire Yes, I have heard this before. It is better in Automatic mode.

[carsismeZ06]

@TheSmokingTire I completely agree. The feeling of stabbing the clutch and throwing back the stick is much more fun. Plus it sounds better than an automatic for example which sounds all creamy. Just my two cents.

[sootyferrari65]

doesnt that kind of defeat the object......i mean spykers ar drivers cars there not suposed to be easy

[Desmonddd2002]

Actually there is plastic. The RED SWITCH FOR THE ENGINE

[Alishaikh94]

Its a metal switch.

[Desmonddd2002]

o ic.

[jml8841]

@Desmonddd2002 No the red switch is aluminium painted red

[yorkstar17]

I'm so proud that this car is a dutch car :)

[bugmenever]

Too bad they have to put in the airbag steering wheels for most markets.

The original propeller steering wheel is a work of art.

[seroyer2]

as Clarkson once said "what a fantastic place to impale your face on."

[rs200000000000]

@seroyer2 doesnt really apply to the new car though it doesnt have the nice steering wheel just a astin martin looking steering wheel instead

[wrongedywrong]

@rs200000000000 Don't know where you're getting Aston Martin from. Definitely an Audi/Lamborghini wheel considering their current relationship with Audi.

[coolerdude44]

spykers should have manuals, they look so coooooool!

[JoeBird76]

I just went to a private party last night. Unveiling this new 2010 model!

[CFRMTB]

Nicee, you guys are coooool

[12valvepower1]

audi quattro would be wicked on ti

[12valvepower1]

you need a aluminum 427 chevy v8. 500 hp v8 roar

[12valvepower1]

audi engine

[12valvepower1]

do they come with space cake

[BrianZuk]

AWESOME Video!!! Great Cars!

[m16karbine]

Aluminum, leather, or glass... what about the seat belt? lol

[ichiiizen]

this car is freakin' awsome!!

[mulham]

what happened to G419

i didnt find out about this channel until today when I stumbled upon a comment on FLD

[TheSmokingTire]

we're not making that show anymore, this is our new show, so don't forget to subscribe!

[sharpproductions]

Sweet you're back! Found from a comment on FLD..

[TheSmokingTire]

thanks for stopping by, don't forget to subscribe!

[Firewired1]

Good job, but you guys can do better ! Only 4 minutes ?

[TheSmokingTire]

when you're only given 45 minutes with a car, and you only have one camera to work with, 4 minutes of usable good footage is really a lot. I wish it were longer, but sometimes we gotta work with what we can get.

[arabrockerman]

WTF when did you guys mention you weren't G419 anymore its not even on your page!!!!!!!

You didn't put it on fast lane daily nothing I just got to woundering if you guys canceled or something and started finding people leaving comments on your old videos that your "the smoking tire"

[TheSmokingTire]

Garage419 and all the rights to it belong to Next New Networks, which we are no longer a part of. Because we are (finally) independent of them, we are not allowed to promote our shows neither through G419's channel, nor Fast Lane Daily's. We have to start over, and hope our fans find us by chance. But I'm glad you found us, and you can continue to find us here.

Thanks

M

[arabrockerman]

Well that makes sense I'm gonna go start posting it on all the G419 videos hehe

So I'm guessing if they won't let you promote even for a fee NNN wasn't happy about something.

Well good luck I really liked G419 so I'm glad its buck up with a more logical name too!

[TheSmokingTire]

yeah, there's no rule that you can't do it! hook a brother up...

[BlazingCheerio]

yeah i found out because someone posted that g419 was gone and it was now the smoking tire. great show btw.

[Edfrommars]

As a car, it seems really good. The interior reminds me of a Veyron with all the aluminum. I hate the exterior styling, though. When looking directly at the front, it looks like a Dodge Neon, and the back is just too complicated to be taken seriously.

[MovieMad007]

they should also test it at that track in California ...not sure what its called but it has one hellish steep corner on it!

[MovieMad007]

Now there is a work of art! Dutch engineering, me thinks!! Although Clarkson was right about the grill looking like a fish!! That engine sound is gorgeous!

[balla1225]

We sell these at Lexus of Pembroke Pines....

[Roehm21]

Love the sounds on fthat beast. Those Audi V8's are pretty solid units. Great video.

[AlexZTuned]

You'd think that a car inspired by turbines would have a couple turbochargers strapped to the V8, instead of an off-the-shelf naturally aspirated Audi power plant. On another note, the paddle shifters seem awfully unresponsive. For the high price tag, Spyker should not be offered a ZF slushbox as an option. Guess I'll just have to opt for the 6-speed manual when I order mine! (yeah, right...) ;)

[TheSmokingTire]

The auto is junk, especially the paddles. The manuals are fantastic though, good thing you can get either.

[hvissotz]

I sure wish you guys wouldnt put the background music through the whole episode. It washes out everything else.

[AlexZTuned]

A big 2nd. Music is fine for the introduction and credits, but having the same repetitive music playing throughout the entire video is tormenting when all you want to hear is the roar of the engine and Matt's commentary.

[TheSmokingTire]

Again, we only had 45 minutes with the car, which means we didn't have enough time to put a mic on the exhaust and really get the sound in. We work with what we have, and sometimes it's still not enough. Hopefully we will get the car for a few days when they have production versions and we can really take the time to get that sound right. But with 2 people, 1 camera, and 45 min, it's simply not possible to get everything we want.

[hvissotz]

I understand time constraints, and the music that is being selected sounds good, but you don't have to mask the lack of car audio with background music. Matt's voice does that well enough, amirite?

[Tomyboyy16]

Was the red switch cover in the center of the dash plastic?

[edthekilla413]

Did you watch the video? "you will find nothing in the interior thats plastic, aluminum, leather and glass"

[Tomyboyy16]

Yep. Have you ever dealt with those types of switches? All the ones I've dealt with have had plastic covers and a metal toggle switch. Thanks though.

[TheSmokingTire]

Actually I asked about that, they are custom made and red painted aluminum. Great spot though.

[obd]

Spykers are awesome but a turbine inspired car and no turbo? ;)

[Tortelli2]

Didnt have enough space, so here is part 2:

Was the automatic transmission anygood?.

Sound of the old C8 is great, but nothing beats a Challange Stradale in a tunnel!

[TheSmokingTire]

No, it's garbage. Fortunately, a manual transmission is also available.

[Tortelli2]

Matt great revieuw of a nice Netherlands product!. I'm proud of it!

Saw about 3 Spykers in my life, one at an event for sick kids, 2 on the road i guess.

Great cars and absolutly more exclusive then most Ferrari's and Lamborgini's. Only prob imo is the lack of pure power (@ 400hp a new Carrere S isnt that much slower) . I know they offer compressor version, but never really saw one on pictures or anyting.

[typhoon5000]

I've only seen one Spyker and it was in a Maserati dealership. It was beautiful in orange and gunmetal gray because it was the very limited LM85 Edition C8. I was riding my bike going by the dealer and almost wrecked when I saw it and recognoized what it was.

[indivum]

Not this dude again, lol ;D

Nice video though.

[gt46c]

Matt u lucky SOB, how many time u drove a spyker?!

Stop using music this is a car show more engine music please!!

[TheSmokingTire]

we only had 45 minutes with the car and 1 camera, so we didn't have time to mic up the engine, shoot lots of b-roll, and do all the things we normally do. in fact, if I hadn't done the entire two monologues in one take each, it would be even less. It's very hard to get seat time in supercars, so we work with what we can get. This is the fourth Spyker i've driven.

[brettvette]

is JF not on the team now?

[TheSmokingTire]

JF helps with some episodes, but he lives in NY and we are in LA

[brettvette]

this explains why Derek D still uses that JF/Audi geek voice...

[PipeDiezel]

another great show

[lcstay10]

A+ work from the dutch

[WorldofLuxury]

Beautiful and unique. Amazing craftsmanship throughout! It's definitely worth the price - I'm a big sucker for leather, aluminum and chrome. People will all know it's worth something without knowing what it is.

I wish I could see the engine bay. Spyker engine bays have been nothing short of amazing. The Cadillac Sixteen concept's engine bay is like no other.

[TheSmokingTire]

honestly, the engine bay isn't all that impressive, since it's essentially just an audi V8 like the RS4's.

[WorldofLuxury]

oh aha That's too bad.

[giantenemycrabX]

Love the show!

[juancarloslang]

that car is THE COOLEST car ever

[Jambajuicer432]

Matt, fantastic work. I have never even seen a review on the Aileron, hell i didnt even know they made them! But seriously, fantastic shots, fantastic music, and fantastic commentary.

This truly is what you guys have been striving for for so long.

[TheSmokingTire]

Thanks, I wish it could have been a little bit longer, but we only had the car for a very short time.

[TechWithLukasz]

what happened to garage 419?

[TheSmokingTire]

There's no more Garage419. This is our new and finally independent show.

[teamsleepnine]

so this is not under next new network??

[Elmo187]

no, this is a totally new venture for these guys. they're their own production company now.

[TheSmokingTire]

No, we left Next New Networks to make our own show.

[bottomlayer]

Can you leave a comment or video response on tomorrow's FLD explaining this?

Everybody's looking for G419 but doesn't know about the new show.

Anyway, I love the show

You're awesome!

[kjz28]

Good review. Gorgeous car.

[mookielowski]

farah has the best job in the world lucky bastard

[GCimprezaFTW]

Great review, it sucks you could have more time with the car. You used your time well =]

[phatphred]

This is definitely one of your best reviews. Much cleaner and more refined feeling.

[navarretejason1986]

the most beautiful car that i ever seen in my life, i would want a supercharger

[TheSmokingTire]

There's good news, quite a few companies make blower kits for the Spyker. I know MTM, APR, and PES Tuning all make kits that bump power up to around 550

[davebos582]

Another good vid - a little short, would have liked to have seen a little more footage of the car, otherwise great stuff guys!

[TheSmokingTire]

Unfortunately, we take what we can get, and we only had about 40 minutes total with the car, and one camera. So this was a short one, but what can you do?

[davebos582]

Of course, work with what you got - besides, limited footage makes the car even more exclusive! Thanks for the response.

[11Adrianluongo11]

as Borat would say "Is nice!"

[protopmr95]

SEXXXY CARRR!

[konascrap888]

sounds awesome, but i would expect a little more power out of a car that prestigious and rare

[TheSmokingTire]

now that you mention it, I forgot to talk about the fact that next year, the aileron will be getting a new engine that makes approximately 30% more horsepower than the current engine, as a result of Audi discontinuing that engine entirely. The performance should be stellar.

[konascrap888]

Sweet thanks for the info...now i just gotta work on affording it haha. Great review.

[luigiskd12]

Where did you get that info?

That would be sweet!! ;)

[adj789]

I like the look and the lack of electronics.

[duraiden]

Love that exhaust note.