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  • One of the biggest reasons that America hasn't been overthrown is the fact that we have the 2nd. Amendment. But that Constitutional right is being quickly eroded. The biggest reason for our demise is the rejection of God. I see America beginning to pay for this rejection. May God have mercy on us and still be willing to hear the prayers of those who do pray for America.

  • Remember when Rosie O'Donnell went on an anti-gun tirade on her show? Then we found out that her adopted kids are taken to and from school by an armed personal bodyguard. I think Conan was making fun of people like her.

  • Chuck Norris doesn't use guns because they would slow down his ability to kill.

  • if he really believes that then he is a true dumb ass

  • Yes, lets make sure help is only 30 minutes away instead of 30 seconds.

    The more you know.

  • People kill people, Stupid people kill people. punks and outlaws kill people Not Guns. Yeah a stupid redneck draggin his ole gun thru a fence sometimes will blow his guts out but BY FAR most all People kill People with guns........And really I think DRUNK DRIVERS kill more People Than Guns do in America. Why dont one of you smart asses look that one up. Im watching my guns now to make sure they dont read this and kill me...Have a nice day .

  • Jesus, look at all the paranoid NRA nuts with no sense of humor. It's a skit--a joke. Conan wasn't seriously advocating the repeal of the second amendment.

  • Is Conan joking? Does he really believe in anti-handgun laws?

  • Another TV persona that somehow gets to air a personal opinion using the mass media. No surprise that it's more liberal hogwash. But, since he's a known personality, his opinion on political matters carries more weight than us workaday Joes who have trouble thinking for ourselves. Right?

    Gun control works. Just ask Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot. In a few years, we'll be able to add our beloved silver screen stars to that list.

  • gun control, the right of the government to commit genocide, shall not be infringed upon by a law abiding citizen

  • Conan is one of the few respectable comedians on television.

  • first you get the guns, then you get the power, then you get the money, then you get the women.

  • Look I'm a pretty radical libel but even I realize how stupid it would be to outlaw them.

  • If guns kill, then spoons made Ophra fat.

    Guns don't kill, has a gun ever been sentenced to a prison ?

    Now if every one on earth was to not have guns (including governments) every body would be safe """Right""" ,........ Wrong ! we each would be at the mercy of others with knives spears and whatever.

    I'll keep my guns, it's my ....... In Alienable Right ! of all US citizens.

    When it all falls apart, you'll wish you had a gun.

  • i love conan, hes a funny fuck

  • @daffy840 yes, he is funny...but I you won´t believe how many "celebrities" who ask for gun control have no qualms to employ armed bodyguards, you know liberals think they are the only real people, the rest of us are less than humans for them, at first I though he was dead serious...fortunately I was wrong

  • The sad part is Mayor Bloomberg actually thinks like this. Only the rich and famous get to defend themselves in NYC. I'm sure that's what the founders had in mind when creating the 2nd.

  • "... and celebrities." Well of course that's implied, celebrities should be allowed to do anything.

  • If you know about the illegal operation "fast and furious" done by the Obama administration then you realy need to start getting worried. They want to take away your right to protect yourselve while the government arms criminals. Fucking sick. Liberalism, the mental disorder.

    Vote Ron Paul in 2012

  • Oh, Conan. Excellent skit, and even simpletons like me understood the joke.

  • Conan is a fag

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  • I know it's reading into the skit, but I get the feeling Mr. O'Brien supports our Constitution.

  • hahaha he's making fun of Rossie O'Donald. and his last line was wrong, three kinds of people will own guns, police, celebrities, and criminals, you know those people that ignore the law.

  • the definition of Tyranny: when something is legal for the government but illegal for the common citizen.

  • @spyderc85 What about execution? Or search warrants? Those are tyranny by your definition

    I think you need to qualify your definition more; though I feel I agree with you on gun control :)

  • @spyderc85 We can't print our own money IT'S TYRANNY

  • @GimmickInfringement wait we cant? Shit

  • @GimmickInfringement Do you know what money is? It's basically a receipt for deposited gold

  • @Hairysteed Wrong! That was when we were on the Gold Standard. The government no longer controls our money. The money is controlled by the Federal Reserve Bank. They have no gold to back up currency. They just print as they please.

  • @buddybleau I actually went googling about it right after posting that comment and went "oops!" :D.

    You can still buy your own gold with fiat money though, but be quick! Its value is dropping constantly.

  • @Hairysteed Since you clearly are 40 years behind the time, I'll be the first to let you in on a secret: we aren't on the gold standard anymore, jackass.

  • @GimmickInfringement I told you I know that now! Jeez, lighten up!

  • @spyderc85 Really? Is it tyranny that only the authorities are allowed to convict and carry out sentences or do you think lynching should be legal?

    For the record, I am pro gun ownership

  • @Hairysteed if your a child molester and murderer dam straight string your ass from a tree, its cheaper than having the vile piece of shit rot on death row for 20 years

  • @spyderc85 And what if he turns out to be innocent?! We're supposed to be rational beings! Not rabid dogs!

  • @Hairysteed it should be like the existing death penalty used when there is overwhelming evidence against. For instance if a suspect confesses.

  • @spyderc85 You think lynching mobs care about evidence? They act on emotion and impulse, not reason!

  • @Hairysteed oh im not talking about lynch mobs

  • @spyderc85 I was.

    My point is Government is there to protect the rights of minorities. Otherwise democracy would be just a dictatorship of the majority - a mob rule where the majority can do whatever they want at the expense of the minority. That's why lynching and vigilantism isn't allowed in civilized societies.

  • @Hairysteed im not promoting vigilantism although in some cases that would be better giving the track record of our justice system. I'm saying if a person is found guilty and the evidence is overwhelming why not hang him, you dont want to do that after he is found guilty take him to be executed none of this death row bullshit.

  • @Hairysteed

    Gov is here to protect everyones rights not just that of a few.

    And Democracy is MOB RULE.

  • @Hairysteed Government is there to Protect the Rights of EVERYONE. Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? What we have now in the USA is "Mob Rule Democracy" being controlled by Oligarchical Dictators. The USA is basically a Fascist Nation. The Corporations and Banks control everything here and We the People do not have a voice. Congress has had a very low approval rating my entire life, 29 years, and it has only become worse. The last 10 years have been very bad here. This is Democracy?

  • @spyderc85 No not if the suspect confessed since there have been numerous instances of false confessions given or even out of context statements used as a confession. Hard evidence is what should be used. Dna, fingerprints,or clear video footage.

  • @Hairysteed common sense does also have to apply

  • @spyderc85 how common do you really think that is?

  • @Pill88Dickle I would think so, ya, but they gotta come out of it at some point. Keep in mind that there would be a LOT of soldiers deserting the US military if it came down to us against our government, and many would comandeer a fair bit of the equipment they are trained to use, and would be using it to fight alongside us civillians. Also, if the taliban can make IED's that penetrate armored vehicles, so could American civillians.

  • SELL OUT

  • Joke or not I wish he'd keep his finger out of the trigger guard. If there is one fuck up I see all too often is people who grab a pistol as they would a bottle of beer. Fake gun or not, still bad practice.

  • Was this recorded with a toothbrush?

  • Cities and states with gun control measures in place have the highest crime rates in the nation. Even the highest gun crime rates.

  • If we're going to ban guns, we might as well ban alchohal again. we all know how well that worked.

  • If you outlaw guns, then only Conan will have guns.

  • thats it no longer watching conan

  • @sallysax he was kidding

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  • For a second I thought he was doing a serious ad... to actually ban the 2nd amendment.. I was in the middle of typing "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" When I realized it was a joke. Jokes on me.

  • We should have a national carry day or week . Every citizen should be armed or ticketed three dollar.

    National carry week July 4th, 2011. All Americans must openly carry a loaded firearm in all public places.

  • @TheBelldiver It should be a bank holiday too! 

  • With such a huge underground illegal gun industry infesting every major city it doesn't make much sense to restrict a decent person's access, or right to purchase a firearm.

  • fuck you I am king Troll

  • it would be funny if it wasn't true. The only people who get to carry firearms in LA are LEO and the rich. Even rich Hollywood felons like Mark Wahlberg own guns. Yet he is anti-gun, a convicted felon, who robbed and beat a store owner until he was blinded. A "normal" person would not be allowed to own firearms with that criminal record...That is why many rich people live in LA, you get to live outside of the law. Wonder why Lindsey Lohan doesn't understand the law? She never had to before.

  • Wow, the US really loves their guns.

  • @macarthur19

    Why wouldn't they? Americans seem to love all of their rights.

  • @ParamoreWorshipper Americans hear the Miranda rights more often than they do the constitutional rights.

  • @macarthur19

    What? Are you trying to say all Americans are criminals..?

  • @ParamoreWorshipper It was more of a clever comeback. Not so clever? I don't care.

  • @ParamoreWorshipper If only that were true. In reality, Americans have been sitting back, scratching their asses while our rights are blatantly and systematically eroded one by one. Not only that, but they applaud it and vote for those who continue to piss on the constitution. Happened under W, continues to happen under Obama, and the morons either don't know or don't care, or actively cheer them on. "Land of the free" has been a bad joke for decades.

  • @macarthur19 damn right

  • When guns are criminalized, only criminals will have guns, and our politicians are the biggest criminals in America, and are in control of the best armed individuals on the planet, the US millitary. I think I'd like to keep my right to bear arms, thanks!!! Gotta appriciate the sarcasm that Conan came at this topic with, lol!

  • @Mindcrime121 Well, unless you have a missile silo in your back yard it's not like you can go against the military. Even if you have guns they have tanks, fighters, strategic bombers and missiles. I do however agree with your first point. Drugs are banned so why do we have so much drugs? Same with guns.

  • @Hairysteed Constitutionally, the US millitary is forbade from taking police action against Americans, and if they were ordered to, which of course IS a possability, I like to believe that the MAJORITY of the soldiers would turn on the government and use most of it's strangth against those who follow those orders. And a .380 slug, or a slug from an AK-47, or any other "banned assault weapon" will kill a soldier betraying America with an M-16, just as fast as slug from another M-16 will.

  • hey fag it was a joke dont be a bitch

  • Accidental deaths due to motor vehicle accidents are 28 times greater than accidental deaths due to firearms. Conan's an American, not a communist (try the other side of the world for the other type).

  • I love how the idiots can't take a joke.

  • hey uhhhh conan you just lost a fan you communist son of a bitch

  • @mr178287 Communist? How does making a JOKE about gun control make him a communist? I'm marxist, and I own several guns. How does political ideology have ANYTHING to do with a completely unrelated subject? "The more you know"

  • @DoctorZzo jeezus spend less tme on the net n more time chasin pussy u trollin fuck,if youtube is rly ur life then i feel sorry for ur bitch ass and as for marxism go fuck yourself,find someone else to debate this stupid shit with

  • @mr178287 I'm the troll? Lol.

  • @mr178287 I guess you dont get satire. He was basically making fun of celebrities who are for gun control yet have armed body guards to keep them and theirs safe.

  • Free citizens can have guns, slaves can not.

  • Honestly, i cant tell if hes joking or not. i hope he is

  • Nuclear weapons are guns too - sort of. So distribute them freely! Al Qaida guys would happy blow some cities up with them. Seriously, i never get the american fetish with guns. They believe they increase everyone own security with them. But in reality its just the opposite that happens. If everyones security would be increase the kills by guns would be lower. The fact is the US has the highest kills by guns in the world. Really safe.

  • @lucius1976 Nuclear weapons aren't guns... at all.

    And if guns were banned law abiding citizens would have no practical way to defend themselves from attackers. Police can't always be there. They can get there after you have been mugged or killed, but unless they're real close by they can't possible get to you on time no matter how hard they try.

    And the U.S. haveing the highest deaths from guns... I'd like to see where you got that from.

  • @ASHMarine616: Exactly. When seconds count, the police are just minutes away. I carry because that difference is measure in terms of life and death.

  • aw come on guys you gotta know this was a joke

  • the second amendment clearly states that you are allowed to hang a pair of bear arms in your home. i dont see what ppl think guns have to do with it

  • How can you guys post that Conan hates guns? At the end of the video he holds up one and says he'd feel safer, seems pro-gun to me. He's clearly making of parody of banning guns.

  • make guns illegal murder rates rise

  • that shit aint funny

  • I thought I would have to hate Conan, until I realized this was a joke

  • @prgnt me too.

  • @prgnt Me too!

  • @prgnt Conan has that clever witty humor, sometimes you don't think what he is actually up to.

  • @prgnt ditto

    

  • @prgnt it's a progressive joke... art imitates life

  • @prgnt

    I thought I would have to love Conan, until I realized this was a stupid joke.

  • This is hilarious.

    Conan is not serious; he is a COMEDIAN!

    Nobody should be complaining about this, but should instead be appreciating the clarity this sort of comedy creates for us: Conan is showing the ridiculousness of banning handguns for all but a few people; let's face it, cops and celebrities will always get guns if they want them.

  • Hey Conan, Your a fuking idiot.

  • @fjerins hey fjerins, you spelled "you're" wrong. you Fucking IDIOT. hahaha

  • @fjerins For you to take this seriously, you my friend are the idiot.

  • @macarthur19 I almost take you slightly serious sometimes!

  • ANY FUCKIN TWIT THAT GIVES UP HIS RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS SHOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT TO CASTRATION.....70% OF GUN CRIMES ARE COMMITED BY 11% OF THE POPULATION...CAN U GUESS WHICH 11%?

  • @treon123456 I don't agree about castration... I think the right not to complain if a mugger sinks a .357 into his cranium is quite enough... of course he wouldn't be complaining or doing much of anything then.

  • @hughster41 You don't because he's or she's a slave. They have no way of defending themselves against a tyrannical government.

    God save the Queen ( 's sheep ) .

  • Was he just doing this for kicks or was there a message he was trying to get across, I can't really tell? I'm assuming he's being sarcastic and pro 2nd Amendment.

  • guns don't kill people. celebrities do.

  • he forgot criminals duh!

  • still never heard a good reason for owning a gun outside of responsible hunting, although its kinda hard to call it a sport when your stalking a disadvantaged animal while you're covered in camo sporting the last 100 years in point and click gun technology

  • @AirborneMuffins

    I'm not for hunting either, however I find it necessary to own a firearm. I never want to pull that trigger, and I never know if I ever will. Hell, I may never have to use it. However, crime does happen. Muggings, rapes, murders, hate crimes, and gang crimes happen every day, and I hope that if I am ever in a bad situation, I'm going to be alive, for my right to life is a fragile and precious thing. so is my family's.

  • @evilnomad111 i just find it amazing that everyone thinks its ok to kill a criminal, like their lives are worth any less than anyone else. even if you are in danger it shouldnt be considered ok to harm someone else to get you out of that danger. even if they themselves are responsible

  • @AirborneMuffins

    So the attacker can get away with anything they want?? Thats leads to multiple murders, robberies, muggings, rapes, ect. Like I said, I do not want to kill anybody, and I'm not about to kill somebody over a fucking TV either. However if that gun is pointed at me or at my family, I'm going to shoot him no matter how much of an individual that person may be. I'm not a violent guy, but I'm not going to surrender my life in the hands of a stranger. Neither should you

  • @AirborneMuffins

    What you are suggesting is LITERALLY cultural suicide. The second ammendment is a legal document and it serves a valid purpose for ciminals and tyrannical government alike. Hitler once said; "The worst thing you can possibly do while running a nation is arm it's citizens."

    Think REALLY hard why Htiler said that. Afterwards, get back to me.

  • @evilnomad111 lol he was a flaming racist, but he was a brilliant leader, as was napolean and Oliver cromwell, and both of them supported civilian and state disarmement (sp?). but that would be assuming that your argument held some merit. for i noticed that you used the word "The" in your comments, and i believe both Hitler and Mussolini used the word "the" several times throughout your life.

    don't try to punch above your weight intellectually =)

  • @AirborneMuffins

    Haha Yes, Hitler was a racist. He also did a damn good job of making his nation into a totalitarian dictatorship. He made guns illegal and disarmed his own populace for the sake of...you guessed it...totalitarian rule. It's hard to run a nation or exterminate a race if they were armed with weapons. He'd be fighting another war if that were the case. Thats the point I'm trying to assert. Leaders don't like their citizens being armed.

  • @evilnomad111 citizens have no right to be armed, they are citizens, not soldiers, not fighters, not nothing, citizens

  • @AirborneMuffins

    Uh....Air, a LEGAL DOCUMENT called THE SECOND AMMENDMENT says otherwise. When you say that, you are saying that the woman that was held at gunpoint and defended herself deserved to die. You advocate that the 12 year old deserved to be raped and the father had to sit there and watch. you think that robbers can come in and take a person's livlihood and not be able to defend themselves. You are sick. Yes we are citizens, but we have a right to live.

  • @AirborneMuffins

    What world do you live in??? In a sick society like this one, I'm sorry, but we need to protect ourselves. When a rapist tries to fuck you in the ass, give him a hug when he is done, because his life has value. If they try that to me, I'll make sure the wall is showered with his brain matter.

    Have a nice day (I will hope you have killed yourself by now.)

  • @evilnomad111 are you listening to yourself, you're describing hte same kinds of violent urges the rapist harbors. you don't spend any time around children do you? cuz that might not be such a good idea...

  • @AirborneMuffins

    What are you talking about violent urges??? Diddn't I specifically say that I wish I would never be put in the situation to shoot ANYBODY?? At this point, your rehtoric is so fucked up and your analysis of information is so distorted that I think you need help and hope you NEVER have a say in politics. Don't own a gun. Go ahead. I won't stop you.

  • @evilnomad111 you seem to be confused, may i suggest prozac?

  • @AirborneMuffins

    Air, Luckily you are stupid. For if it is your will not to own a gun, I'm not going to stop you.Hell, it will increase your chances of getting your computer robbed by a criminal so you won't post terrible information on the web.

  • @AirborneMuffins

    And what the fuck is the problem with me using the word "the?" You make no coherent sense at all. You lost me there. Plus, you have yet to show valid evidence as to why guns should be banned. All you have done so far is proven that you have sympathy for the lives of murderers and rapists, and hold Hitler's antics at running his country in high esteem. I'm beginning to think you are a danger to society...

  • @evilnomad111 YOU JUST USED "THE" AGAIN!!! YOU COMMUNIST NAZI PINKO!!!

  • @AirborneMuffins

    What? I'm a communist Nazi? I illustated how Hitler has seen the necessity to disarm citizens. You want to disarm citizens, so I think it would be safe to say you allign with hitler. Go kill yourself please.

  • @evilnomad111 *THEIR

  • Statistics have proven that everyone who is born eventually dies. Better outlaw procreation. It's for our own safety.

  • THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY HAND GUNS EVERY YEAR

    you would you prefer to see them pushed out of a window, little girl?

    haha

    (credit to Archie)

  • What a fag.

  • F**K HEAD..... when you produce this garbage the serfs take it seriously...... dumbass forgets he is in the public eye and should behave as such.... otherwise he is a lot funnier than Leno.

  • @kingVillien The feigned expression of gravity on his face as he denounces the amendment and demands arms be available only to police and celebrities (him) is all part of the joke, bud. I know I'd feel a lot safer. And Jay's a shameless hypocrite jerk.

  • @kingVillien I'm thinking it was a joke...

  • How many people are killed daily from errors in the war on drugs,the war on poverty,the war on terror.How many African families were split up when section 8 said the man could not live in the home.How many African babies are aborted daily on behalf of Planned assistance programs.How many people die daily in prison systems over 1,000 dollars worth of drugs.How many people died after Jimmy carter And Breskinksi created the Mujahadim to fight the soviets which later becameTaliban and alqaudia.

  • repeal the second amendment, because it is more holy to get stabbed in the back by gang banger then it is to engage in in a gunfight where you have a chance of winning...

  • @mojothemigo Yeah do you realize how the crime lobby has pushed to disarm the people to increase the profit to loss ratio.

  • @mojothemigo Actually, would you rather fight someone with a gun or someone with a knife? You can run from someone with a knife, you can learn self-defense that teaches you to fight someone with a knife to the point where if they pull it on you they better know what the fuck they're doing. Guns are a point and click adventure. They call them equalizers but the knife cuts both ways. Getting taken down by a 12 year old is pretty shameful. Not that I agree with repealing amendment 2.

  • @lightsoul007 I stand by what I said, I rather go gun to gun then knife to knife. Running away will just get you stabbed in the back. Yeah, it might be a little kid. Most likely it will be some 200 pound gang banger. Also, the gun grabbers want to make carrying any kind of weapon illegal. There is no way in Hell you'll ever stop crime by getting rid of weapons. It will be criminals knife against my nothing.

  • @mojothemigo I'm pretty fast, so I probably wouldn't get stabbed in the back unless they threw it :p

    But you're right, people can make weapons out of anything, even in jail. I seriously doubt, though, that anybody who is the type to purchase a gun in the first place would ever actually turn them over just because a law said to, at least not in our culture.

  • so do cars, and so does having health insurance (hospital borne illness+malpractice = 150K dead per year)

  • @xmorg Good point........USA DEATH STATISTICS (per year)....Doctors malpractice 200,000 deaths per year, bad diet 250,000 death, alcohol related, 43,000, gun deaths 13,000....and in that 13,000 it includes police returning fire on criminals and legal citizens owning guns protecting themselves from crime.....

  • i bet his bodygaurd carries a gun

  • i no i wouldnt feel about safer bitch

  • Ha-ha Conan, lets sell guns to Chris Brown.

  • Conan is a Liberal....

  • Hmmm...that first part got steam coming out my ears, and then I see the punchline, and I can almost forgive him...

    Oh, that wacky Conan!

  • fight crime; shoot back, anybody who doesn't like the second amendment should sign a waiver to never have or carry one, period; or they can move to england and be mugged because those stupid bobbys run around with sticks, yeah real freakin safe... never give up your guns...

  • "those stupid bobbys run around with sticks"

    rofl ^

  • Actually the Bobbys started carrying guns and wearing body armor 5 or 6 years after the handgun ban in England. Not all of them, but there are quite a few that do now. At least the Bobbys are safe though right?

  • @bxlxix69 The days of the Bobbys with clubs are gone. Even in England the cop now carry guns, because SUPRISE criminals don't obey the law........

  • @bulrydrdan unfortunately, in England; all the people agreed to be servants of their lord (false gods); in America, they've become more stupid after each generation, not realizing they are the bosses and not the public "servants."

  • @bxlxix69 Yes I agree, we have let the Gov get too big.

  • @bxlxix69

    Attacking england on this issue is stupid. Death rates in the U.K. from firearms is less than a tenth of what it is in the U.S. There are good arguments in favor of the 2nd amendment. This isn't one. England IS safer; you're saying it's not.

    And before you start getting uppity, know that I am PRO right to bear arms. Hell, I own a handgun and have my conceal-and-carry permit. Your loud ignorance hurts the cause of responsible gun owners.

  • @curbsideprophetlz if you are pro gun; why would you have to ask permission to exercise your right to keep and bear arms? It is written "shall not be infringed."

    The second amendment is a right to carry permit. and take a read of gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/5­.1/gun-facts-5.1-screen.pdf

  • @bxlxix69

    Now this is a better argument. It is my constitutional right in the United States to bear arms.

    All I was saying was don't pretend that makes you more safe or lowers the crime rate. Don't attack England; they wanted safety, which they got.

    We want our rights!

    It's the beauty of having more than one governing body in the world.

  • @itinkuno Unlike England, once people realize that the majority of rules, regulations and codes actually don't apply to everybody as with the tax laws per say; the carrying of arms should be by everyone; Florida, Arizona, Rhode Island and Alaska are great examples that when the common criminal knows that the general public is armed and potentially carrying; they have second thoughts about robbing and stealing, especially rape. I feel safer in an armed society than more cops beating up people.

  • @bxlxix69 You could through michigan in there to if you took out metro detroit the state is actually really really low for crimes.

  • @bxlxix69 ... same to you. A little research into the homicide and rape rates per capita shows that the United States ranks higher than other first world countries by a long shot in both. Perhaps disarmed criminals are less capable of the intimidation required for rape? Either way, saying that our crime rate has gone down due to gun ownership is simply not true, regardless of how safe it makes you feel.

  • @curbsideprophetlz oh yeah england is safer...why is violent crime up? less deaths by guns more by beatings and stabbings, that is a fact.

  • @tac94540 You just made that up. England has much less violent crime. Wikipedia? It's a free encyclopedia. If you don't trust it, the sources are listed at the bottom. A "fact" is an item of information that can be proven true or false. So, yes, that's a fact, but it's false. Looking it up is sooooooooo easy.

  • @curbsideprophetlz uh they have less violent crime but thats not ratioed when you do the ratio of number of americans to UK folk you find that we actually have about the same gun deaths but much much less robberys and muggings. We end up having more manslaughter charges but you guys have more mass murders.

  • @armypenguin This is a ridiculously inaccurate statement on your part, and that can be shown with two seconds on google or wikipedia. Per capita (which means ratio'd to the population) the United States has approximately 33 times as many firearm deaths as the United Kingdom.

    I volunteer at the Center for Homicide Research in Minneapolis, but I won't bore you with academic papers when you can't be bothered to google what you're saying before you say it. And your mass murder thing is made up.

  • @curbsideprophetlz Not sure where your finding yours but mine says what I said anyways US definately safer place then the UK.

  • @armypenguin Well, I told you where I'm finding my statistics. Wikipedia, and my volunteer job at the Center for Homicide Research where I send Uniform Crime Report data to the FBI for filing purposes. "Agree to disagree" doesn't exactly work with statistics anyway... we have higher firearm death, homicide, rape, robbery, and overall crime rates than the U.K.

    I don't know how that qualifies as "safer" to you. We do have more freedoms. I PREFER freedom, actually. ... and truth.

  • @curbsideprophetlz Ok not that I compeletly agree with you but your right or extra freedoms do make up for it ALL.

  • @armypenguin

    :)

    Lots of people don't realize by how I talk that I am very pro second amendment. I just prefer accurate information; I think it serves the freedom agenda better than fear or anger that lots of people show (not really anyone here, but you've met them before I am sure). And I'm not sure if you were clear on this, but I am an American, living in America.

  • @curbsideprophetlz How do the homicide rates in England compare to those of Switzerland? I do not have direct access to the statistics you do, but I do know that every Swiss citizen is considered a part of the military reserves and has an assault-rifle in their home.

    as far as I know, Switzerland has a very low crime rate, so I think that it is inaccurate to directly compare crime rates of two nations that have notably different cultures. I'm not being hostile, just different perspectives.

  • @PingOnThis

    Switzerland has about 6.5 deaths per 100,000 people per year that are firearm related - higher than most other countries worldwide. The US has nearly 16 per 100,000. The UK has about 0.4 per 100,000.

    Homicide rates, on the other hand, are lower than the U.K. by a small amount - where they are much higher in the U.S.

    The difference lies in that the Swiss have an incredibly low poverty rate - and poverty more strongly correlates with all crime than any other factor.

  • @PingOnThis

    The U.K. is a much more similar country to the U.S. culturally, economically, and ethnically than Switzerland. But do you know what a much, much better country to compare the U.S. to is? Canada. Gun control there is only a little bit stronger than it is here - and both rate of death by firearm and rate of homicide per capita are LOWER than the U.S. but higher than "no gun" countries like England.

    I only started giving stats on England because people were bashing it. (bxlxix69).