@searme can you put this up on brick shelf because im looking to replicate this and i have front half but im unable to find the right points for the rear
you do know that you dont have a live axle, right? A live axle, AKA a spool, is a solid axle, there is no differential in a live axle setup. You obviously have a differential so its not a live axle.
@31puddin19 Funny, I though live axle was the type of a suspension, so it's about how the axle is suspended, not what's inside it. I can take that differential out any second - according to you, this will magically transform it into a live axle, even though it's still suspended the same exact way, right?
@searme correct as far as i recall a live rear axle is a solid rear axle exactly as you described not very likeable today but a throwback to the muscle cars.
@31puddin19 dude a live axel is an axel that can pivot from side to side and go up and down. a portal axel just rotates from side to side. the differential has nothing to do with it. every truck has a differential just some can lock and some are limited slip but its suspention type not differentials.
You are aware (of course) that the trouble with any axle that has transverse freedom to rotate (perpendicular to it's axis of rotation) is bound to lift one of the wheels under heavy torque...
But still, the way you executed it is clean, light, efficient. You're a perfectionist.
Torque twist much? I think someone needs to rethink his cantilever geometry. If you want to utilise a cantilevered setup like that then you need shorter, stiffer shocks with that sort of cantilever ratio, or a longer ratio and longer, softer shocks. You also need to spread the vertical links wider on the axle. The design you have will result in awful handling in the real world. The car's design is already top heavy and it'll topple very easily on side slopes or cornering at speed.
I can't help but think that if you did it properly with triangulation of the upper links and a double UJ driveshaft. I've done it before with both 2 link and 3 link live axle suspension systems, but definitely the most effective was using elastic bands as leaf springs. It needed trac bars to locate the axle, but articulation was stunning.
great idea. just wondering if the axle wants to shift side to side, since you used ball joints. if not, why? trying to figure it out, maybe i'm retarded. thanks
no way, near the end of the video when you try it with the remote, the torque from the drive shaft causes the entire chassis to jerk to the left. i guess thats what you get when the axle isnt attached to the frame
Zrobiłem sobie takie zawieszenie, ale moje nie chodzi tak fajnie :) Twój model jest cięższy niż moja rama (pojazdu z takim zawieszeniem) i dlatego chyba chodzi lepiej, tak lekko.
A, i jak zawsze piękny model, ja tam lubię takie czysto technicowe konstrukcje, i nie wybrzydzam tak jak na lugpol'u :P
who are the instruction i cant find that
TheRcBandits 4 weeks ago
hi hast du einen bauplan für das live axle?
have u a instrution plan?
TheRcBandits 4 weeks ago
I would lower the center of gravity a bit if you're going to be doing any off-roading with this baby. Beautiful work though.
M5000thesdgversion 5 months ago
jest jakis tutrioal do tego? bbo na tvojej stronie niemoge znalesc :/
lullaren 5 months ago
hey. can u make a vid on how to make 4 wheel drive on lego truck. i cant figure out on how to make front stering with the wheels spining.
100legos 6 months ago
@100legos There are instructions at my website.
searme 6 months ago
@searme where are they i cant find them???
spongebob123210 5 months ago
@spongebob123210 Did you try to browse Ideas category?
searme 5 months ago
@searme can you put this up on brick shelf because im looking to replicate this and i have front half but im unable to find the right points for the rear
theonlyweirdohere 6 months ago
@theonlyweirdohere I did. Check my website.
searme 6 months ago
@searme
you do know that you dont have a live axle, right? A live axle, AKA a spool, is a solid axle, there is no differential in a live axle setup. You obviously have a differential so its not a live axle.
31puddin19 7 months ago
@31puddin19 Funny, I though live axle was the type of a suspension, so it's about how the axle is suspended, not what's inside it. I can take that differential out any second - according to you, this will magically transform it into a live axle, even though it's still suspended the same exact way, right?
searme 7 months ago 5
@searme correct as far as i recall a live rear axle is a solid rear axle exactly as you described not very likeable today but a throwback to the muscle cars.
hypopsycho 6 months ago
@31puddin19 dude a live axel is an axel that can pivot from side to side and go up and down. a portal axel just rotates from side to side. the differential has nothing to do with it. every truck has a differential just some can lock and some are limited slip but its suspention type not differentials.
LittileBillyG 5 months ago
MAKE A HOW TO VID I BEG U PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
TeamSt1nkyPigs 10 months ago
You are aware (of course) that the trouble with any axle that has transverse freedom to rotate (perpendicular to it's axis of rotation) is bound to lift one of the wheels under heavy torque...
But still, the way you executed it is clean, light, efficient. You're a perfectionist.
corotor12345 1 year ago
doceniam, ale to przerost formy nad treścią. Są o wiele skuteczniejsze i prostsze systemy zawieszenia
OpikDBN 1 year ago
Is it worth using this for both the front and back or just the back?
DisarrayINC 1 year ago
very nice =p
specialKdiet 1 year ago
song???
legoclockfreak710 1 year ago
@legoclockfreak710 marilyn manson - seizure of power
shadowcoaster 1 year ago
Torque twist much? I think someone needs to rethink his cantilever geometry. If you want to utilise a cantilevered setup like that then you need shorter, stiffer shocks with that sort of cantilever ratio, or a longer ratio and longer, softer shocks. You also need to spread the vertical links wider on the axle. The design you have will result in awful handling in the real world. The car's design is already top heavy and it'll topple very easily on side slopes or cornering at speed.
peeprox1991 1 year ago
@peeprox1991
It's a crawler, my concern and his (obviously) is "torque twist" rather than roll center and lateral stability.
corotor12345 1 year ago
2:16 = Torque :D
ecchibanzaii 1 year ago
dude thats not an indepented suspension
LordDecapo 2 years ago
how about making this in BIGSCALE and drive it to school ? JUST Awesome!
awesomelegoguns 2 years ago
respect
12Ritchie34 2 years ago
Love it, trying to design a independant system like a cars using strut / shocks and some way of having steering AND even a drive shaft into it.
Matty231 2 years ago
i have a design im workgin on that is what u want, the whell has its own suspensino, is a drive wheel, and can steer
LordDecapo 2 years ago
should rename it to grasshopper axle looks like a grasshopper's legs
plzforgiveme987 2 years ago
u should make a off roader
titainlego 2 years ago 4
i've made a monster truck before, it has the same technic as this car, only made of different parts, and it was way bigger
its half unbuilded now, but if you want i can re build it
vinnie049049 2 years ago
looks like a axial rock crawler
p38lightning7 2 years ago
5/5 Nice invention of yours! Too bad I dont have the differential piece.
IWillEatURobloxStyle 2 years ago
what song is that?
EchoAlphaBravo 2 years ago
Maybe he made it. Idk.
IWillEatURobloxStyle 2 years ago
that car is awesome. nice work with the suspension.
Soundlmpact 2 years ago 3
I'm going to make a new version of this that works with steering and stuff!
BlackFireRampsNDecks 2 years ago
good idea, ma teen ka nii
Silguprita 2 years ago
is it a set or did you build it your self
tytogonon 2 years ago
The latter.
searme 2 years ago
Can it turn? anyway good vid. this earns a sub
robotrobbie99 2 years ago
cool how many power function set do you have?
19xFLOx97 2 years ago
realy good
nordmensch 2 years ago
I can't help but think that if you did it properly with triangulation of the upper links and a double UJ driveshaft. I've done it before with both 2 link and 3 link live axle suspension systems, but definitely the most effective was using elastic bands as leaf springs. It needed trac bars to locate the axle, but articulation was stunning.
peeprox1991 2 years ago
very nice... does your WIP kerax model feature a similar axle construction, or is it a more robust truck trial version of the same idea?
tacuisi 2 years ago
It is more robust version of the same suspension system. It's pretty stable, but not tested in a real race yet.
searme 2 years ago
excellent- i look forward to seeing it :)
tacuisi 2 years ago
awesome but^^ hmm springs are to soft use yellow springs ^^
5 of course
WolneRzartY 2 years ago
looks like it would be a nice crawler if it was 4wd
bykerboy223 2 years ago
instructions plzzzz!!
chamillionaire34man 2 years ago
It's all at my website, you just have to find it.
searme 2 years ago
is it 4x4???
legoMan104 2 years ago
Nope.
searme 2 years ago
Does the front supension have a live axle too?
Eugbob 2 years ago
No.
searme 2 years ago
sweet, do a how 2, and what is the song?
livebionicle 2 years ago
that is awsome man!
najproductions37 2 years ago
That would be very easy to add a stabilizer bar to, I'd like to see how it performs with one added!
transamlover50259 2 years ago
are u using that on any trail trucks??
axeaxe46 3 years ago
Not just yet.
searme 3 years ago
I had four of simillar, but much more powerfull axels on my 8x8 trial truck :D
On my green truck the axels are very simillar to yours, but they are PORTAL and steer.
Zblj1987 3 years ago
Well, I tried to make is as simple as possible. Looks like I need to take a look at your truck :)
searme 3 years ago
aah the sandrail the ultimate in off-road adventure :D lol
eggsalad774 3 years ago
nice axle? where do I get a lego diferential? I allways make an axle like a ATV lol that looks like a regular car axle, very nice...
Nave4x4 3 years ago
can it stear
boringcarcass 3 years ago
It can be made to steer.
searme 3 years ago
Niiifftttyyyyy :D
Xelmon 3 years ago
great idea. just wondering if the axle wants to shift side to side, since you used ball joints. if not, why? trying to figure it out, maybe i'm retarded. thanks
dandj1103 3 years ago
The drive shaft keeps it in the middle.
searme 3 years ago
very cool i think :) 4/5
quadrazid 3 years ago
Looks neat but when you go over something the entire section is raised up instead of just the independant wheel.
Mikemc 3 years ago
That may be a matter of adjusting the shock absorbers' hardness to the weight of the vehicle.
searme 3 years ago
Too bad that Lego doesn't have many different types of elements for suspension :(
stoccop 3 years ago
how can this be used? is it a better suspension for a lego creation?
Eugbob 3 years ago
Yes, it's quite good.
searme 3 years ago
no way, near the end of the video when you try it with the remote, the torque from the drive shaft causes the entire chassis to jerk to the left. i guess thats what you get when the axle isnt attached to the frame
james2bond 3 years ago
Well, the same thing happens with pendular suspension.
searme 3 years ago
and thats why cars have indipendant suspension, but still this free floating axle is a good idea
james2bond 3 years ago
Cześć
Zrobiłem sobie takie zawieszenie, ale moje nie chodzi tak fajnie :) Twój model jest cięższy niż moja rama (pojazdu z takim zawieszeniem) i dlatego chyba chodzi lepiej, tak lekko.
A, i jak zawsze piękny model, ja tam lubię takie czysto technicowe konstrukcje, i nie wybrzydzam tak jak na lugpol'u :P
pio9494 3 years ago
Dzięki :)
searme 3 years ago