@nephildevil I would guess not (and this is only guessing). Compounds are far more efficient, so Dacron with its stretchy nature would probably be no good. The braided nature of the string might not like going through rollers. I imagine they'd also be under far more stress than a longbow string so my best guess is no.
I'm sure Youtube has some entries if you search for "compound bow string" though. Or you could just ditch the training wheels altogether :-D
@Mububban23 i'm pretty sure my string is made of dacron, what goes tru the wheels is a cable not the string. The string is attached to the cables. Too early to ditch training wheels :p but yeah i should get myself a recurve to go trad with sometime, but might get a decent compound 1st instead of the cheap one i got now.
Very impressed with the video. The idea of using the hand width as a guide to making the second loop is a very good idea and as for putting the bowstring on the bow, this makes excellence sense. Thanks!!!
The material I've used is called Dacron B-50 as it has some stretch in it and some believe that flexibility helps a wooden bow survive a bit longer due to less stress being placed on the timber. Dacron comes in all colours of the rainbow.
Others use Fastflight which has zero stretch in it, that gives better cast and extra distance, some swear it causes no problems for longevity, some prefer noy to use it so it's personal preference really :-)
Excellent video. Good instruction. My sound silly, but I'm glad to see someone using same-color string for both strands. For some reason, everybody feels that the strings must be different colors. Put my first bow string together from this video. No problems.
cont'd - I guess the key here is to have at least SOME experience in doing this already prior to going to one of the sites - typed out OR video, or else you won't have a clue what they're talking about, or doing and why. Either that, or you have to have seen someone do it once or twice before going to the site(s) to have SOME idea of what's going on. Newbies are completely S.O.L. if this is first exposure to the idea, though.
@Dr1Canuckchuck I try and do my videos as I would like to find them as a viewer - that is, someone with an interest, who has found some starting information, and now seeks further clarity and instruction. I doubt many total newbies with absolutely zero knowledge would stumble across this video without first having read up on bows and strings to some degree. But even so, this video is pretty easy to follow and learn by rote seeing as the bowstring and wax are available from any archery supplier
@Mububban23 It was a very good video. I made the comment I made because although I have a lot of experience shooting bows (compound, mostly) I have always wanted to make a bow. I started looking through web sites and every one seemed to be missing some small piece of important info. In this case, I hadn't yet found out how to make the jig for string making. You started with the jig already made and I hadn't had the benefit of that info yet. I now have that info, thank you for a great video.
I've noticed something about these instructional sites; I've been to 10 sites where they typed out their instructions, they always leave out some vital piece of information - assuming you already know what they're talking about, I guess. So, I decided to try a video. Again, I find they have left out some vital piece of information that they must be assuming you already know. What's up, guys? I guess you have to go and have someone show you so you can ask ?'s as you go along. This doesn't work.
Hey i tried this with 25 pound pre breaded nylon fishing line, I used 4 strands 2 in each bundle the hard part was getting the off length tails to stay with the boundles took alot of time to get it together and it ended up only 2 inches shorter then the nocs can i twist it down a couple more inches or is it not a good idea? its twisted 15 times now.
@ulty777 I've got no experience with fishing line so can't comment, but if your nock loops are too thin ie not enough strands in the end loops, then the pressure on the tips will be amplified and may cut into the timber of your bow limbs/tips.
To shorten your string another ~3 inches to get a proper brace height, you'd be twisitng the string a ridiculous amount. Far better to unbraid one end and redo it. Also gives you more practise :-)
@ulty777 What the f__k is "pre-breaded" fishing line? Why are you breading fishing line? Do you mean "braided"? If so, where would you find PRE-braided fishing line? I can't see a purpose in anyone braiding their fishing line so as to REQUIRE PRE-braided line.
@Dr1Canuckchuck, have you ever herd of Celsius ice gear, Tip up lines, there braided black nylon lines. for winter fishing, common a Canadain should know that, and oh no my spell check changed braided to breaded its something to get so upset about eh.
@ulty777 Take it easy, I really didn't get at all upset about it. And no, I've never heard of Celsius pre-braided fishing line, hence my comment. I doubt very much you'd find that ALL Canadians know of what you speak. Any time I've gone ice-fishing I've used the same line I use in the summer, single strand 6 lb nylon filament, as have every one of my fishing buddies. I've never heard of, nor had any reason to braid my line or required it to be pre-braided. Sorry I asked.
Thanks for the posting, seems really clear going to try it again. I'm working on learning to make my own strings, and so far the length is coming out wrong after I finish my 2nd loop.
@bowman321123 To be honest, I often get that second loop a bit wrong too and end up having to unwind it and redo one end :-) It gets easier with more practise.
Great Job! I was able to make a string with no problems the first time. What about pre-twisting before making the second loop? Other posts said to do this but I don't see the need.
Great video. When I twisted the two together after the loop, I had several of the strands ends fraying out of the twist. What do I do to make that not happen? Am I not waxing the string enough? It seems like this will always happen unless the ends of the strands are twisted up inside the bundle. I dont see that with yours, nor the fraying?
@hatchtec Yep, heaps of wax really helps to keep all the individual strands locked together while you're working, and then a good rubdown of the finished string also helps the little tail bits from sticking out once finished. Have another look around the 4 minute mark of the video.
Interestingly, I find some of the coloured dacrons (especially red) to be REALLY slippery, even with loads of wax they don't want to stick together nicely. Black is definitely the easiest for wax retention.
@Mububban23 Thank you very much for the quick reply. After several attempts, I successfully made my first flemish twist string using brown and black . As you suggested, more wax and a rub down once finished remedied my issue. Your serving string instructions went flawless and now I'm hooked. All my bows are getting back up strings now. haha.
Thanks so much! There are a lot of good tutorials out there but this one is very simple and clear. I believe you are the cameraman? If so give my thanks to the Bowyer in the video, and thanks for the vid!
Great video. Very informative. I am working on my 31st bow now, but it is my first all stone tools bow. I am about to start an all sinew bowstring, the process will be a bit modified as sinew is shorter than the coordage you are working with, but regardless this was very helpful. Thanks.
been searching for a good instruction video for making the Flemish twist bow string, this was the first i found that's actually made the process clear. Thanks a lot.
Being a noob I'm learning using vertical bamboo floorboards. Cut it into 30mm ide strips, plane them flat, glue together with Titebond2 wood glue, then mark the lines, plane to shape, and begin tillering. If I find time I'll try and upload the tillering process.
@Mububban23 do u know anything about Yew bows?..have u ever used flax strings?..can rabbit hide work as bow string? can goat sinew work as bowstrings?
@5tonyvvvv Very little about yew bows except it's known as "the best" wood. Do you have a specific question? Who knows I might know something helpful. I haven't tried making authentic strings yet but contact TatankaOhitika1 on Youtube, he's made natural strings from hemp and sinew I believe.
Are you aware how...GENIOUS this guide is? It's easy to understand and, you actualy know what you're doing. Rated and subscribed. The BEST guide I've even seen.
@Zaylo74 - Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I can't take much of the credit, I only edited what a friend filmed, and what the instructor was wonderful enough to share with me/us. I'm a noob, but he's been making bows for 15 years. He's a great guy.
@5tonyvvvv Vertical bamboo floorboards :-) Check my other videos, I've just uploaded one all about the flooing. Great beginner's material (and I'm definitely a beginner!)
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TheSpiralNemesis 1 day ago
Köszönöm , megtanultam
turulkakas 1 month ago
can u use this for a compound too?
nephildevil 1 month ago
@nephildevil I would guess not (and this is only guessing). Compounds are far more efficient, so Dacron with its stretchy nature would probably be no good. The braided nature of the string might not like going through rollers. I imagine they'd also be under far more stress than a longbow string so my best guess is no.
I'm sure Youtube has some entries if you search for "compound bow string" though. Or you could just ditch the training wheels altogether :-D
Good luck!
Mububban23 1 month ago
@Mububban23 i'm pretty sure my string is made of dacron, what goes tru the wheels is a cable not the string. The string is attached to the cables. Too early to ditch training wheels :p but yeah i should get myself a recurve to go trad with sometime, but might get a decent compound 1st instead of the cheap one i got now.
nephildevil 1 month ago
Very impressed with the video. The idea of using the hand width as a guide to making the second loop is a very good idea and as for putting the bowstring on the bow, this makes excellence sense. Thanks!!!
sunmaat 2 months ago
waht kind of string do you use?, is Flemish the name of string?, someone help me. im makin a bow an need some help woth the string. Thanks
tao2110 2 months ago
@tao2110 "Flemish" is the style name.
The material I've used is called Dacron B-50 as it has some stretch in it and some believe that flexibility helps a wooden bow survive a bit longer due to less stress being placed on the timber. Dacron comes in all colours of the rainbow.
Others use Fastflight which has zero stretch in it, that gives better cast and extra distance, some swear it causes no problems for longevity, some prefer noy to use it so it's personal preference really :-)
Mububban23 2 months ago
Excellent video. Good instruction. My sound silly, but I'm glad to see someone using same-color string for both strands. For some reason, everybody feels that the strings must be different colors. Put my first bow string together from this video. No problems.
Thanks.
docmann2001 5 months ago
@docmann2001 Glad to have helped! I find that kids like the 2 coloured strings, but for my adult bows I tend to use black unless asked.
Although I suppose for the purposes of a demo, two different colours might make it easier for some to see.
Mububban23 4 months ago
cont'd - I guess the key here is to have at least SOME experience in doing this already prior to going to one of the sites - typed out OR video, or else you won't have a clue what they're talking about, or doing and why. Either that, or you have to have seen someone do it once or twice before going to the site(s) to have SOME idea of what's going on. Newbies are completely S.O.L. if this is first exposure to the idea, though.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
@Dr1Canuckchuck I try and do my videos as I would like to find them as a viewer - that is, someone with an interest, who has found some starting information, and now seeks further clarity and instruction. I doubt many total newbies with absolutely zero knowledge would stumble across this video without first having read up on bows and strings to some degree. But even so, this video is pretty easy to follow and learn by rote seeing as the bowstring and wax are available from any archery supplier
Mububban23 8 months ago
@Mububban23 It was a very good video. I made the comment I made because although I have a lot of experience shooting bows (compound, mostly) I have always wanted to make a bow. I started looking through web sites and every one seemed to be missing some small piece of important info. In this case, I hadn't yet found out how to make the jig for string making. You started with the jig already made and I hadn't had the benefit of that info yet. I now have that info, thank you for a great video.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
@Mububban23 I was a little confused at how to make a flemish twist bowstring, but this has answered all of my questions. Great video!
PandaManMk2000 8 months ago
I've noticed something about these instructional sites; I've been to 10 sites where they typed out their instructions, they always leave out some vital piece of information - assuming you already know what they're talking about, I guess. So, I decided to try a video. Again, I find they have left out some vital piece of information that they must be assuming you already know. What's up, guys? I guess you have to go and have someone show you so you can ask ?'s as you go along. This doesn't work.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
Excellent Method
MrSchpankme 10 months ago
I'm keen to try this.
dmgm1970 10 months ago
Thnx for the ultra clear vid.
I finally get how the second loop is done now.
Im off for practice now. ;)
gratver 10 months ago
Hey i tried this with 25 pound pre breaded nylon fishing line, I used 4 strands 2 in each bundle the hard part was getting the off length tails to stay with the boundles took alot of time to get it together and it ended up only 2 inches shorter then the nocs can i twist it down a couple more inches or is it not a good idea? its twisted 15 times now.
ulty777 10 months ago
@ulty777 I've got no experience with fishing line so can't comment, but if your nock loops are too thin ie not enough strands in the end loops, then the pressure on the tips will be amplified and may cut into the timber of your bow limbs/tips.
To shorten your string another ~3 inches to get a proper brace height, you'd be twisitng the string a ridiculous amount. Far better to unbraid one end and redo it. Also gives you more practise :-)
Mububban23 10 months ago
@ulty777 What the f__k is "pre-breaded" fishing line? Why are you breading fishing line? Do you mean "braided"? If so, where would you find PRE-braided fishing line? I can't see a purpose in anyone braiding their fishing line so as to REQUIRE PRE-braided line.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
@Dr1Canuckchuck, have you ever herd of Celsius ice gear, Tip up lines, there braided black nylon lines. for winter fishing, common a Canadain should know that, and oh no my spell check changed braided to breaded its something to get so upset about eh.
ulty777 8 months ago
@ulty777 Take it easy, I really didn't get at all upset about it. And no, I've never heard of Celsius pre-braided fishing line, hence my comment. I doubt very much you'd find that ALL Canadians know of what you speak. Any time I've gone ice-fishing I've used the same line I use in the summer, single strand 6 lb nylon filament, as have every one of my fishing buddies. I've never heard of, nor had any reason to braid my line or required it to be pre-braided. Sorry I asked.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
Thanks for the reply, I am discovering that it is a good thing that they put so much material on a spool! :)
bowman321123 11 months ago
Thanks for the posting, seems really clear going to try it again. I'm working on learning to make my own strings, and so far the length is coming out wrong after I finish my 2nd loop.
bowman321123 11 months ago
@bowman321123 To be honest, I often get that second loop a bit wrong too and end up having to unwind it and redo one end :-) It gets easier with more practise.
Mububban23 11 months ago
Well done video, I was able to make my bow string on the first try. Thanks for sharing
with us newbies. What do you know about spineing a arrow? Any help there would be
great. Just finished tillering a 45# 72" longbow and I am rehooked on this hobby.
I guess if I got to be hooked on something this is a good thing. Thanks again. BRIZZEE166
BRIZZEE166 1 year ago
Great Job! I was able to make a string with no problems the first time. What about pre-twisting before making the second loop? Other posts said to do this but I don't see the need.
simpsoncasa 1 year ago
@simpsoncasa I don't see the need either. You could always give it a shot and let us know how you went :-)
Glad the video helped.
Mububban23 1 year ago
What is the width between the 2 columns of nails and the width between each nail in the column?
ZacharyBrunoMusic 1 year ago
@ZacharyBrunoMusic The nails are spaced a half inch/12mm apart, and the two rows of nails are about two and a half inches/65mm apart
Mububban23 1 year ago
Great vid sir
kennygtexas 1 year ago
Great video. When I twisted the two together after the loop, I had several of the strands ends fraying out of the twist. What do I do to make that not happen? Am I not waxing the string enough? It seems like this will always happen unless the ends of the strands are twisted up inside the bundle. I dont see that with yours, nor the fraying?
hatchtec 1 year ago
@hatchtec Yep, heaps of wax really helps to keep all the individual strands locked together while you're working, and then a good rubdown of the finished string also helps the little tail bits from sticking out once finished. Have another look around the 4 minute mark of the video.
Interestingly, I find some of the coloured dacrons (especially red) to be REALLY slippery, even with loads of wax they don't want to stick together nicely. Black is definitely the easiest for wax retention.
Mububban23 1 year ago
@Mububban23 Thank you very much for the quick reply. After several attempts, I successfully made my first flemish twist string using brown and black . As you suggested, more wax and a rub down once finished remedied my issue. Your serving string instructions went flawless and now I'm hooked. All my bows are getting back up strings now. haha.
- Jon from Michigan
hatchtec 1 year ago
Great stuff! I love the eggs in the background too!
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe Alas I do not have my own good luck chicken. Lucky there was one on site for filming :-D
Mububban23 1 year ago
Thanks so much! There are a lot of good tutorials out there but this one is very simple and clear. I believe you are the cameraman? If so give my thanks to the Bowyer in the video, and thanks for the vid!
ZeppiilHafi 1 year ago
Great video. Very informative. I am working on my 31st bow now, but it is my first all stone tools bow. I am about to start an all sinew bowstring, the process will be a bit modified as sinew is shorter than the coordage you are working with, but regardless this was very helpful. Thanks.
Peace.
kevseadog 1 year ago
been searching for a good instruction video for making the Flemish twist bow string, this was the first i found that's actually made the process clear. Thanks a lot.
Calumryan 1 year ago
Thanks for this video. It explains why the string lengths are different- before this video I could never figure that out! Excellent video----
nightarcher 1 year ago
Très bon.
yvespo56 1 year ago
Being a noob I'm learning using vertical bamboo floorboards. Cut it into 30mm ide strips, plane them flat, glue together with Titebond2 wood glue, then mark the lines, plane to shape, and begin tillering. If I find time I'll try and upload the tillering process.
Mububban23 1 year ago
@Mububban23 do u know anything about Yew bows?..have u ever used flax strings?..can rabbit hide work as bow string? can goat sinew work as bowstrings?
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv Very little about yew bows except it's known as "the best" wood. Do you have a specific question? Who knows I might know something helpful. I haven't tried making authentic strings yet but contact TatankaOhitika1 on Youtube, he's made natural strings from hemp and sinew I believe.
Mububban23 1 year ago
Great video really helps
redredrobinuk 2 years ago
Are you aware how...GENIOUS this guide is? It's easy to understand and, you actualy know what you're doing. Rated and subscribed. The BEST guide I've even seen.
Zaylo74 2 years ago
@Zaylo74 - Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I can't take much of the credit, I only edited what a friend filmed, and what the instructor was wonderful enough to share with me/us. I'm a noob, but he's been making bows for 15 years. He's a great guy.
Mububban23 2 years ago
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5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv Vertical bamboo floorboards :-) Check my other videos, I've just uploaded one all about the flooing. Great beginner's material (and I'm definitely a beginner!)
Mububban23 1 year ago
I've read no fewer than 4 different methods on making that exact same string and that was the best 9 minutes I could've spent learning how to do it.
Brilliant!
juddexley 2 years ago