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i really hope this company doesn't get away with this. people think this is dish soap, it's an industrial grade detergent. 1,000,000 gallons of it. and no one has any idea of it's impact. absolute insanity.
That small pipe on the left is seperate from the OIL pipe, I think they may be mixing despersents which come from a BP company. If they are I think the effects will be devastating for Generations. The arsnic level in the despersants is .16ppm the safe level intake is .01 This is from the EPA site.
Jim I know My Bible hun, I'm Not disagreeing with you about there Lack of Humanity, right down to there DNA,...but I agree with that , but there not going to Win Unless you give in to your fear. this has been a Put on, to get you to Surrender to Multi national forces OF the new world order, Who are Nazi Eugenicist's, Look up the Georgia guide stones. There created by Lucifer worshiping Elite class, and they want to reduce earth population to below 50 Million, so there easy to control, got it
The pipe is drilled in to a Black Smoker, A Naturally occurring thermal vent, On the sea floor, found all over the deep ocean. there surrounded by life, giant tube worms, ghost shrinp, crabs Living on fluorocarbons in the blume.
the Oil is deliberate, , and is part of the N.W.O. look at Halaburtons involvement, 1. buying the fire suppression 2. the clean up company, working on the rig, 3.having it blow, 4. now there talking of evacuating to F..E.M.A. CAMPS also a Halaburton enterprise.
@dragonworld2008 NO its not, but that is exactly what they want you to think. Do Not give In to fear, or Despair, that makes you weak and vulnerable. Ripe for a take over by the UN Multi national forces waiting in the wings. weaken us, destroy a food source, evacuate the coast So No witnesses, come right Up the Mississippi and Attack both the east ans western USA From the Middle.
look at who sold there stock weeks before it blew !!1 there is your guilty party's
@dragonworld2008 Its is not the end f the world But the beginning of the NWO
cut and past this description in to Youtube ad watch it. I'm sure you will see the resemblance, and understand its ALL a Show to frighten you in to surrender. Black Smokers and Hot Springs - DW TV Part 5
Don't give to fear, that is exactly what they want.
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Face the fact that the human race does not have the technology to stop the oil from gushing into the gulf. We just don't. It has been and will continue to gush over 4.2 million gallons per day into the gulf for several years. Anything that they do now would in actuality be a waste of money and only prolong the inevitable. The coast will have to be evacuated about 30-50 miles inland eventually, starting in the gulf but eventually extending up the entire eastern seaboard. prepare
@vonnareverse Harmless?Natural?WTF are you smoking?A pipe bored 2 miles into the earth is not natural.Harmless tell that to all wildlife that is being wiped out.Your a pole smoker,look it up for yourself dipshit.
@wwdhhhh cut and paste this into yahoo, "Black Smokers and Hot Springs - DW TV Part 5 "
Black smokers are harmless. what BP s doing is not harmless, there deliberate to terrorize the people in toi surrendering all power to the UN forces as we transition in to the NWO control system.
BP saved lots of money on not keeping this oil rig safe from this kind of catastrophe, then they had a chance to get it capped and didn't do it, now it's gushing more than we ever thought possible (read the news). Just like I said, this is going to ruin our ecosystem. This is the end of our precious sealife and the food chain. Welcome to starvation in 50 years. Learn to breath Carbon Dioxide. Thanks US Government, Thanks BP! For my grandchildren's death's.
Please, let us stop whining, lets do something about it!! Its time for action! Join force, we have to get through this together. I cant just say "sorry grandchild, we fucked up ur world and just stood by"
I am hearing from insiders that the pressures BP unleashed from drilling close to 40,000 below the seabed is from 20,000 PSI to 70,000 PSI. Man has nothing that can cap such enormus pounds per square inch. I am hearing that when the initial explosion happened that these enormus pressures blew through 5 heavyduty safety valves and exploded the Deepwater Horizon oil rig. This may never be stopped. There are reports of fissures opening up as far as 125 miles away and 20 miles from the well head.
@jimk10117 wont be safe In Australia? are you crazy? Halaburton worked on an OIL RIG OFF YOUR COAST a year before the B.P. oil fiasco, and it blew exactly 20 hours after Halaburton worked on it, right on Q ,it blew up like the gulf rig
Australia was a dress rehearsal, for Deep horizon event.
follow the money! use your eyes, brain, Logic, and think out side the box. they don't care about the Environment, or people, they want to maintain ALL human Populations under 50, Mill, MORE FOR THEM !
@vonnareverse What part of my comment didn't you understand?? It is you that need to use your brain. The tares are servants of satan, maintain the population at 50 mill. What sort of ignorant statement is that. It is you that is crazy!! They wish to extinguish all life on the planet. Read your bible!! Their NOT HUMAN!!!
@agentzippo yeah its toxic to humans, but then again, we don't feed on fluorocarbons, Hydrocarbons, and sulfuric acid, like they animals that live around Black Smoker do. SO its not toxic to them. but it looks like a OIL GUSHER TO THE NAIVE VIEWER, and even to most pros in the industry.
there not cleaning Up the Oil there string it around, looking busy, while the air plains fly over head, Then work crews dumping plastic bags of the TAR back on to the beach they juts cleaned for news crews.
Please, For God's sake, tell me that this is some other leaking well in some other place on the globe! If that is what it looks like down there now, then we are screwed. We are literally screwed!
Methane gas build up could destroy the entire planet, not just the Gulf of Mexico region.
@Wildrosestands This is a terrible mess, but you dont need to fear that the methane is going to explode and destroy the planet. At worst unburnt methane is a very potent green house gas, but even at that this is not going to have a signifigant effect.
@Wildrosestands Not to mention the sulfur smell reported by people. Once that spreads as well, the fish will die. If this is a volcanic activity as some thing, the iron will cause blood poison to the fish. This will be felt all around the globe sadly. I feel bad for the wildlife, it will die.
Oil has fueled economies, improved standards of living, saved lives, and advanced civilization more in the last hundred years than in the previous thousand.
@ironhorzmn Yes it has served us extremey well. I think the video that n4nathan posted lays out in a very clear headed way why the decline of oil or at least its dominance is inevitable. This guy is not some wild eyed Greenpeacer, he is a high ranking executive at Shell. That said i hope what they are doing today gets this damned thing plugged. To see the video just search "richard sears planning for the end of oil" in youtube. Its a very interesting video.
@lerch25 If the free market develops a workable replacement for oil I'm all for it.
The problem here is that liberals are creating a hostile environment for energy producers with public attacks, more EPA regulations, punitive 'windfall' taxes and massive additional 'cap-and-trade' taxes imminent.
They think that the more they turn the screws on oil, the faster some new 'alternative' energy source will simply 'materialize'.
@ironhorzmn I think the basic problem that corporations and thier executives have is that they are under constant and intense pressure to show good earnings on each quarterly report, every 3 months. This basically forces them to be shortsited and make shortcuts, this is simply the nature of corporate business. I think the role of government is to create incentives for them to think in a longer term basis.
@lerch25 EVERYONE in business has to show a profit.
Why would BP, knowing the risk to lives or damage to the environment, deliberately cut corners as a matter of policy, knowing that the results could bankrupt them?
Tell me what 'shortcuts' BP made. Accidents are not always the result of 'shortcuts'.
Would you consider the Obama Administration's giving the rig a safety award, despite federal inspectors' failure to perform the last four monthly safety inspections a 'shortcut'?
@ironhorzmn I do understand very well that profit is thier very survival corporations have 2 responsibliltys 1 to make profit. 2 to follow law. Its not thier job to moralize or save world, or fight for social justice. The larger inteterests of humanity in our sytem is supposed to be represented by the government and the laws it sets and enforces, but in this case and many others its been a complete failure at what it exists to do.
American's use HCL as "their" acid to break apart the minerals underground. HCL is cheap and is extremely unsafe. If they used a non corrosive acid which costs more money thats 1 huge step forward. That's just 1 example.
and FYI Oil consumption is dropping EVERY YEAR at the trends in the last decade society will never run out of oil. 35% of todays power is from oil... That is NOTHING. Why do we need to offshore drill when sufficient oil is right under us. All i can say is America HAS TO CHANGE THERE SAFETY REGULATIONS. Stop pumping down HCL.... So Stupid money money money all there after
@N4Nathan Really? I have a hard time believing that for one huge reason. China is quikly becoming a wealthy country, a country that has a population measured in billions. What is gonna happen when even half of them are driving to work everyday? I really believe sustainable energy sources are going to be needed in the future, and the sooner we move in that direction the beter. Oil is a resource that can and probably will be depleted in the future.
@N4Nathan Why do we need to 'offshore drill? You kidding? One word: ANWR. Liberals have fought tooth and nail to prevent ANY drilling ANYWHERE on or off shore. Oh, BTW: Isn't BP a British company?
Yes you could drop a dome over top of it or a ship but that doesn NOT solve the problem the sand and the extent of such pressure will eventually exceed the containment of the dome. Why is this politcs, whoever is responsible for such low safety regulations should be at fault.
Question: If BP is such an evil corporation for an INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT that killed 11 of their own workers, what does that make Saddam Hussein for DYNAMITING SEVEN HUNDRED Kuwaiti oil wells, releasing SIX MILLION BARRELS of oil PER DAY into the environment?
Hussein was liberals' best friend, a victim of Bush, Cheney and Halliburton. To them Saddam could do no wrong.
None of them condemned this because it would support President Bush.
I have the solution! I can fix this now. Sink an old ship over top of the leak. If a 100 ton dome was suppose to do anything; 100 000 tons WILL. Help me get heard
OK do you mean Richard Armitage aide to senator Bob Dole liberal? Or do you mean Ricahrd Armitage advisor on foriegn affairs to Ronald Reagan liberal? Perhaps you meant Richard Armitage signatory to PNAC liberal? But obviously you meant Richard Armitage as deputy secretary of state of under the extrodanirily liberal Bush/Cheney admistration. It is one thing to be mistaken, but to be 100% off is a real acomplishment.
@lerch25 So Armitage isn't 'liberal' because he worked for Cheney? Come on.
Colin Powell was Secretary of State under the extraordinarily liberal Bush/Cheney Administration.
But the record shows that Powell ALSO knew from the beginning that Armitage was the 'leaker' and the real target of a liberal Inquisition.
Yet Powell remained silent and watched his President, Vice President and administration officials endure an unnecessary, politically motivated and expensive persecution.
the Light of the World, Let men see your anger with this. No Peace, No Love towards the ignorant, ungrateful, irresponsible, the human who thinks he wise and smart, The ones who thinks they need oil to survive, No Love, no peace. But destruction to all.
and fight this disaster. Let us make a change for the better. There will be bloodshed but as history shows "real warriors aren't afraid to die", because we know death is an illusion when we stand with you. Almight God, Let your Sun, you Light ignite this oil and cause the earth to blaze getting rid of humans. In your name I pray to the "Sun of God" (Malachi 4:2, KJVersion)
@stalker1983 BP sucks this line of work has got to end theres always a risk and the risk is to high especially when its about the earth it self, yes i like energy? but need oil for that no, but its billion dollar buisnes unfortunelly.
the oil is either pushing through the cement base or is coming through the sand. Unfortunately you can't cap the hole because the pressure is wayy to high.
@lerch25 I have no clue, i know there are polymers that are used onshore which soak up oil. However i'm not sure how they work or what type of oil it has to be. Less effort + less time = more money. Hence the idea of dropping a concrete dome -.-
@lerch25 however with such high pressure the crust my crack some more. They clould also inject a larger drilling cylinder with higher pressure then the oil guyser where the oil would be forced to funnel. Although the ground at this point is extremely maluable.
@lerch25 i just did a quick search and there wern't any that would help in this case. I assume that the cement has washed away leaving a hole, since the pipe was removed the high pressure from the oil is travelling up the hole into the sand and ultimatly though the spout at the top. Creating the images we see here.
it's frustrating looking at all these scenarios and it's more or less the United States going "Big" or being different. One of the only countries to still use empirical, one of the ONLY countries to drill offshore, and are in such a huge financial dept. Canada on the other hand drills only on land and has EXTREMELY high safety measures.
@N4Nathan I'm with you there it seems this country has gotten into the habit of doing everything stupidly. The worst part about the nuke rumor is that.... if its true it only underscores how out of ideas they really are
@lerch25 The problem with politicicians is life is about accumulating power and little else for them, it is raw ambition often without meaningful direction.
In this case i would create a dome but with a hole in the top with a concrete cylinder with a drill, that way the dome would contain the oil and the drill or the "tube" would allow us to capture the oil and use it. But that wont be manufactured in a reasonable time haha
@N4Nathan Sorry i didnt mean to blow off your idea. I just had a hard time visualizing it. it would be the dome idea but also with another drill reforming the existing hole?
@N4Nathan your idea would help the methane hydrate problem that defeated the last dome by minimizing the methanes' contact with the sea water and it would be built on the surface where as my ideas are made impractical by the fact that these things would be difficult at best to do under 5000 feet of water.
@lerch25 hey sorry i took off last night :P Yea i don't know i just through some random idea out there haha. It's especially hard because they wont tell us any info. All the public gets to hear is were killing the enviornment because of a "cementing malfunction". All they want is for the public to fall for their politcal BS that it was a machines fault.
@N4Nathan Their lies now are only making things worse for them later. Do they really think they can cover what is a probable international catastropy up? The fact is they NEED the best minds in the world working on this, but that simply won't happen untill they openly share what they know. But that wont happen untill they absolutely have exhausted all possible lies. In the mean time things just get worse and worse.
I have heard that nukes have been considered to stop this, which sounds f-ing batshit crazy or at least desperate. Is it even possible that could help? It sounds like a great way to open an even bigger and more poisonus hole to me.
@lerch25 i'm not sure i'd ask my brother but he's not available, I'd say no mainly because the explosion would be underwater. However it's not a burn out it's oil, if it were on land and burning you could use an explosion, since the explosion would cause a vacuum for a millisecond which in fact would not alow oxygen to burn.
Offshore rigs should not be aloud to be produced. The enviornmental threat they pose is 100x of times worse then onshore rigs. Look at the fires of Kuwait, although the situation is completely different, if it had occured underwater the world would be a NASTY place.
@ironhorzmn Exactly my point. Offshore drilling is a dumb idea for at least 2 reasons. 1 is that it vastly magnifies the damaging effects to the environment of leaks. 2 because it vastly complicates dealing with any leakage that occurs, particularly in the case of deep water drilling. Now imagine if The Kuwait wells had been under water in the Persian Gulf. The effect there would not have been just really bad, but horrifying, apocolyptic.
@lerch25 Hussein also opened pipelines INTO the Gulf.
Hussein is 'irrelevant'? The cause of the single most disastrous environmental catastrophe since Hiroshima and Nagasaki is 'irrelevant' to a discussion on a major oil leak?
Carl Sagan predicted the smoke from the Gulf oil fires would create a sort of 'nuclear winter' that would produce crop failures and even starvation. Is that 'apocalyptic' enough for you?
'Complicated'? Try getting close enough to a 800-degree oil fire flowing at 100 miles an hour to blow it out with a shaped explosive charge.
Done? Good. Now do it 699 more times. That's 'complicated'.
You'll never remove the risk from oil production. And banning US companies from drilling means they'll take their jobs, their rigs and their profits overseas where Obama can't tell them what to do.
And we'll pay through the nose for gasoline, if we can get it at all.
Now libs will say, 'Good. We deserve to pay through the nose for what we've been doing to the earth'.
Try telling that to the poor family in Detroit who'll be freezing their asses off this winter 'cause they can't afford to heat their home, fill up their car and put food on the table at the same time.
Just so you libs can feel better.
If you really 'cared' about the 'little guy', you'd be pushing for more drilling for lower prices.
@ironhorzmn I think oil the our absolute dependence on oil is one of the biggest problems this country faces. If we spent a quarter the amount of money on R@D for alternative energy sources, transportation,and energy conservation that we have on the 2 disastrous wars that are slowly bankrupting the country and simultaneously making that world hate us. .
@lerch25 That's crap. First of all 'dependence' is a loaded and negative term. There is nothing wrong with oil or the internal combustion engine which has liberated mankind from horses, trains, and regional isolation.
And throwing money at a problem does not 'create' a solution...and neither do government dictates, taxes and restrictions on private travel.
@ironhorzmn A negative term for a negative thing. I should have used an even stronger word...addiction...One of the biggest reasons that it is a bad thing is the simple fact every form of industry including pharmacuticals and agriculture is completely dependent on it. Couple that with a finite supply and growing demand and you have a recipe for big trouble.
@ironhorzmn We would be ahead of the rest of the world with entirely new industrys generating money here, and exporting this technology abroad. We would also be admired instead of hated. I'm also sure the poor family in Detroit would be beter off, perhaps no longer poor and working in an industry that previously never existed
@lerch25 What are you talking about? We ARE ahead of the rest of the world.
Just because Europe is bankrupting itself throwing money at windmills and solar panels that doesn't make them 'green' leaders. It's a fact anyway that the environmental movement (the 'Greens') is the new home of anti-capitalist socialists.
Why would the 'poor family' in Detroit be better off? Detroit isn't called 'Motown' for nothing. Why aren't they working in the auto industry? Where's all the car jobs?
I'll tell you. Driven overseas by liberal Democrats and their union thugs.
@ironhorzmn okay so firstly i know ZERO about american politics at the time the kuwait fires were terrible however each of them were left on flares (Controlled Flames) at the time the problem was difficult to solve however we accomplished it. This underwater (Accident) Which COULD 100% of been avoided if the safety regulations in the USA wern't so damn low. The kuwait fires yes tragic but CONTROLLED you cannot control a spill underwater given the elements.
@ironhorzmn The problem here is they have no idea how to fix this thing, the Kuwait fires were horrible, but they knew how to fix them. In this case no one is even sure if it is even possible to fix. It is very possible this thing could be spewing oil 20 years from now. This simply points out the fact that offshore drilling is a really bad idea.
@ironhorzmn Kuwait was also the outcome of a TERRIBLE man, The outcome was tragic but because of the flares they were able to place charges to deprive oxygen. In an underwater case there is no fire there is no safety flare. Oil production is safe if the industry was regulated with proper laws. Here in Canada the safety regulations are SO high, i'm not saying it's a safe job, heck no job is safe. All i'm saying is oil wells are not a high risk if monitored PROPERLY.
@N4Nathan Tragic? It was a DELIBERATE environmental crime. And there was no unified outrage on the Left; in fact, liberal Democrats like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Al Gore (Al Gore!) attacked their own country for liberating Iraq from this monster.
(Question? Do nerve gases dumped on Kurds and Iranians harm the environment?)
Regulations are intended to minimize accidents. Nothing can prevent them.
So you agree that the Obama Administration's failure to perform the last four monthly inspections, and still give them a SAFETY AWARD, contributed directly to the blowout of this well?
@ironhorzmn Sorry for coming off as an A Hole, anyways like i said i am Canadian and i barely recognize any of the names you guys are talking about. High safety regulations can stop spills especially this one, the thing people don't know is how low they are. The biggest example i like to use is the HCL.
@ironhorzmn "Why only offshore drilling? All drilling has its dangers. Stop all drilling.
" Why stop onshore drilling, it's actually REALLY safe just spend the extra dime and pump down not so acidid acids, and tighten safety regulations. TADA.. Oil in supertankers... a supertanker sinks firstly the odds are INSANE and secondly the oil can be controlled. Why stop air traffic? Your safer in a plane then a car.
@ironhorzmn Secondly an airplane is not that large compared to a deposit of oil lmfao. I'm not even going to bother stating you wrong on the last point. $10 a gallen? Then pay off your national dept and try importing oil from western canada. O wait i forgot Ego is too high have to fo it themselves.
so why cant they wrap something around the pipe?....or try and clog the hole wiht something?.....but say they wrapped liek 100 fishing nets aroudn the pipe it would stop...or at least slow down untill soething else it down about it? no...?
soo how long with this spill go on for? iv heard there are huge plumes of oil km long and high underwater. wildlife is literally being wiped out everywhere!
@implode44 Im not sure you understand, but they cant stop the flow. For what ever reason the mechanism that was suppose to stop the flow of oil didn't close.
@implode44 Is not about being optimist, all I'm saying is look at the damage the humankind has done to this planet thus to ourselves. I think everyone would agree when I say that we have taken things for granted and we deserve to pay the consequences just like we are starting to with the global warming and all that.
2 words.. American Regulations. Regulations in the United States are embaressingly low. Not only are the regulations so low but bp failed to meet them. They violated over 300 safety regulations not to mention having to dish out 50million dollar fine in 2007. Unless these regulations tighten i would not be surprised if another spill occurs.
@N4Nathan Absolutely! at a minimum they have to undo the deregulation that happened under Bush/Cheney. That deregulation had to be one ofthe most self centered, self serving acts from govt officials in the history of our sell serving government. Cheney himself was a ceo of Haliburton which makes a huge portion of its money subcontracting to oil companys, they of course were also involved in the particular well.
@lerch25 I agree completely with what you're saying. I feel almost embarrassed that I failed to recall the Bush/Cheney legacy. Yes, Cheney's mark is all over this disaster. Thanks for the reminder!
@lerch25 I hope so, from a chem eng perspective the drilling regulations in the United States are considered childish. The Acid's that are aloud to be pumped into these wells are far too dangerous. In this circumstance it is quite complex, I strongly disagree with the drilling regulations, but in all honesty in this particular case the spill was more unlucky then anytihng else. No one would have imagined the ground to break apart as it did.
@N4Nathan Ok good so you actually know something about this...Explain to me what exactly happened because im definitly not getting any perspective on technical side of what happened anywhere else.
@lerch25 Okay so firstly let me say that the united states are one of few countries that do offshore drilling. Offshore is extremely dangerous because "this" could happen and did happen. Now an offshore platform is built over an oil deposite, from the platform they drill a giant cement tube over top of the deposit to drill the oil up.
@lerch25 However in this case it has not been confirmed all they say is that it was a "cementing issue" or a malfunction well in fact we believe that the ground in which the tube was injected into was unstable. In order to pump the oil out of the rock formation is to use high pressure, this highpressure can cause fractures in th rock formation. .
@lerch25 We believe that when the pressure was introduced the oil came up both the tube and secreted through the fractures. These fractures are outside the cement tube.
@lerch25 i'm not sure as too what happened EXACTLY but I imagined that when cementing the cylinder which would incase the drill, the pressure exceeded and created fractures in the rock formation. Causing the ground to be unstable I would imagine that everything just went downhill from there.
@lerch25 Therefore the oil was escaping outside of the cement cylinder. Now BP says they will drop a cement dome over top of it however if the pressure underneath the dome is great enough it will lift the dome, causing more of a mess. Theoretically there is NO possible way to stop the pressure of the oil, the only way is to wait untill the oil deposit is depleaded
@N4Nathan Hmmmm this is very discouraging..It basicaly sounds like this is going to at LEAST leave the gulf sterile and poisonous! Up to this point i was under the impresion this was just a tricky plumbing problem. All i can say is hope you're wrong.
@lerch25 I hope I am wrong as well, the spill will end eventually whether by humans or deposit depletion. Considering the spill is offshore makes the situation 100x worse. Offshore drilling should not be aloud.
How flipping sad is this ? seriously! why isn't or should I say why aren't we doing something about this? Do we not think this is a crisis or what? Are we humans really that self absorbed! (really)
bp is takin most of the hit here,bt did yall know the 2 other partys involved are anadarko energy?and did you know george bush is the 1 shareholder in that company,and haliburton..did you know dick cheney is the #1 shareholder in that company?funny how the american gov,is allowing this environmental disaster happen in full view of the planet,dark times my freinds
NEW 9/11 Film: 'Tuesday Morning in September' 2011 Runtime 130 minutes of actual real time 911 eyewitness chronicle. The most complete that exists, just released after nearly a decade.
TuesdayMorningInSept 6 months ago
Roundup ready
TiredOldFart 8 months ago
The Leaks are Fake many different wells and it is a volcano not all oil.False Flag
conspiracymedia 1 year ago
i really hope this company doesn't get away with this. people think this is dish soap, it's an industrial grade detergent. 1,000,000 gallons of it. and no one has any idea of it's impact. absolute insanity.
tomitstube 1 year ago
That small pipe on the left is seperate from the OIL pipe, I think they may be mixing despersents which come from a BP company. If they are I think the effects will be devastating for Generations. The arsnic level in the despersants is .16ppm the safe level intake is .01 This is from the EPA site.
ytillaer 1 year ago
Jim I know My Bible hun, I'm Not disagreeing with you about there Lack of Humanity, right down to there DNA,...but I agree with that , but there not going to Win Unless you give in to your fear. this has been a Put on, to get you to Surrender to Multi national forces OF the new world order, Who are Nazi Eugenicist's, Look up the Georgia guide stones. There created by Lucifer worshiping Elite class, and they want to reduce earth population to below 50 Million, so there easy to control, got it
vonnareverse 1 year ago
The pipe is drilled in to a Black Smoker, A Naturally occurring thermal vent, On the sea floor, found all over the deep ocean. there surrounded by life, giant tube worms, ghost shrinp, crabs Living on fluorocarbons in the blume.
the Oil is deliberate, , and is part of the N.W.O. look at Halaburtons involvement, 1. buying the fire suppression 2. the clean up company, working on the rig, 3.having it blow, 4. now there talking of evacuating to F..E.M.A. CAMPS also a Halaburton enterprise.
vonnareverse 1 year ago
this is the end of the world
dragonworld2008 1 year ago
@dragonworld2008 NO its not, but that is exactly what they want you to think. Do Not give In to fear, or Despair, that makes you weak and vulnerable. Ripe for a take over by the UN Multi national forces waiting in the wings. weaken us, destroy a food source, evacuate the coast So No witnesses, come right Up the Mississippi and Attack both the east ans western USA From the Middle.
look at who sold there stock weeks before it blew !!1 there is your guilty party's
NWO horrible, but deliberate .
vonnareverse 1 year ago
@dragonworld2008 Its is not the end f the world But the beginning of the NWO
cut and past this description in to Youtube ad watch it. I'm sure you will see the resemblance, and understand its ALL a Show to frighten you in to surrender. Black Smokers and Hot Springs - DW TV Part 5
Don't give to fear, that is exactly what they want.
vonnareverse 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
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iMaGEtrueFiLMing 1 year ago
Face the fact that the human race does not have the technology to stop the oil from gushing into the gulf. We just don't. It has been and will continue to gush over 4.2 million gallons per day into the gulf for several years. Anything that they do now would in actuality be a waste of money and only prolong the inevitable. The coast will have to be evacuated about 30-50 miles inland eventually, starting in the gulf but eventually extending up the entire eastern seaboard. prepare
paulkielsmithdotcom 1 year ago
this is not an oil leak, the white rope thing is not getting stained in any way, even as it passes threw the center of the plume.
this is a Harmless, naturally occurring thermal gas vent.
CALLED A BLACK SMOKER. look one up, and see for your self.
vonnareverse 1 year ago
@vonnareverse Harmless?Natural?WTF are you smoking?A pipe bored 2 miles into the earth is not natural.Harmless tell that to all wildlife that is being wiped out.Your a pole smoker,look it up for yourself dipshit.
wwdhhhh 1 year ago
@wwdhhhh cut and paste this into yahoo, "Black Smokers and Hot Springs - DW TV Part 5 "
Black smokers are harmless. what BP s doing is not harmless, there deliberate to terrorize the people in toi surrendering all power to the UN forces as we transition in to the NWO control system.
vonnareverse 1 year ago
@vonnareverse cut and paste it on youtube
Black Smokers and Hot Springs - DW TV Part 5
vonnareverse 1 year ago
BP saved lots of money on not keeping this oil rig safe from this kind of catastrophe, then they had a chance to get it capped and didn't do it, now it's gushing more than we ever thought possible (read the news). Just like I said, this is going to ruin our ecosystem. This is the end of our precious sealife and the food chain. Welcome to starvation in 50 years. Learn to breath Carbon Dioxide. Thanks US Government, Thanks BP! For my grandchildren's death's.
whoreallygivesacrap 1 year ago
B.P. tried failed so let other people who know and showed more stop this mess now. protest to the white house now don't say i will do it now......
davidmollere 1 year ago
this cannot be a video of an over pressurized well head we are being hoodwinked!
xringone 1 year ago
Please, let us stop whining, lets do something about it!! Its time for action! Join force, we have to get through this together. I cant just say "sorry grandchild, we fucked up ur world and just stood by"
xspeciallyforme 1 year ago
I am hearing from insiders that the pressures BP unleashed from drilling close to 40,000 below the seabed is from 20,000 PSI to 70,000 PSI. Man has nothing that can cap such enormus pounds per square inch. I am hearing that when the initial explosion happened that these enormus pressures blew through 5 heavyduty safety valves and exploded the Deepwater Horizon oil rig. This may never be stopped. There are reports of fissures opening up as far as 125 miles away and 20 miles from the well head.
strent2583 1 year ago
The world leaders are NOT HUMAN!!
God calls them TARES!
This oil spill could be the event that kills the ocean and of course all of humanity!
So we won't be safe here in Australia at all !!
jimk10117 1 year ago
@jimk10117 wont be safe In Australia? are you crazy? Halaburton worked on an OIL RIG OFF YOUR COAST a year before the B.P. oil fiasco, and it blew exactly 20 hours after Halaburton worked on it, right on Q ,it blew up like the gulf rig
Australia was a dress rehearsal, for Deep horizon event.
follow the money! use your eyes, brain, Logic, and think out side the box. they don't care about the Environment, or people, they want to maintain ALL human Populations under 50, Mill, MORE FOR THEM !
vonnareverse 1 year ago
@vonnareverse What part of my comment didn't you understand?? It is you that need to use your brain. The tares are servants of satan, maintain the population at 50 mill. What sort of ignorant statement is that. It is you that is crazy!! They wish to extinguish all life on the planet. Read your bible!! Their NOT HUMAN!!!
jimk10117 1 year ago
Hey republicans remember this Drill Baby Drill
k3v1av 1 year ago
about time for some galactic intervention.
starclad 1 year ago
a voilcano.
LeadRat 1 year ago 2
Were going to need a new planet...
jsmythib 1 year ago
white and yellow stuff in there... sure doesn't look like crude oil. Looks like a volcano, a very toxic one.
agentzippo 1 year ago
@agentzippo yeah its toxic to humans, but then again, we don't feed on fluorocarbons, Hydrocarbons, and sulfuric acid, like they animals that live around Black Smoker do. SO its not toxic to them. but it looks like a OIL GUSHER TO THE NAIVE VIEWER, and even to most pros in the industry.
there not cleaning Up the Oil there string it around, looking busy, while the air plains fly over head, Then work crews dumping plastic bags of the TAR back on to the beach they juts cleaned for news crews.
vonnareverse 1 year ago
Please, For God's sake, tell me that this is some other leaking well in some other place on the globe! If that is what it looks like down there now, then we are screwed. We are literally screwed!
Methane gas build up could destroy the entire planet, not just the Gulf of Mexico region.
Wildrosestands 1 year ago
@Wildrosestands This is a terrible mess, but you dont need to fear that the methane is going to explode and destroy the planet. At worst unburnt methane is a very potent green house gas, but even at that this is not going to have a signifigant effect.
lerch25 1 year ago
@Wildrosestands Not to mention the sulfur smell reported by people. Once that spreads as well, the fish will die. If this is a volcanic activity as some thing, the iron will cause blood poison to the fish. This will be felt all around the globe sadly. I feel bad for the wildlife, it will die.
Gentilejedi 1 year ago
I really, really hope this works.
thewildpearl 1 year ago
@thewildpearl Same here
lerch25 1 year ago
Yes, yes, yes, and yes, When i say our it includes myself. I am just pointing out that it is is indeed a problem.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25
I don't think it's a 'problem' at all.
Oil has fueled economies, improved standards of living, saved lives, and advanced civilization more in the last hundred years than in the previous thousand.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Yes it has served us extremey well. I think the video that n4nathan posted lays out in a very clear headed way why the decline of oil or at least its dominance is inevitable. This guy is not some wild eyed Greenpeacer, he is a high ranking executive at Shell. That said i hope what they are doing today gets this damned thing plugged. To see the video just search "richard sears planning for the end of oil" in youtube. Its a very interesting video.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 If the free market develops a workable replacement for oil I'm all for it.
The problem here is that liberals are creating a hostile environment for energy producers with public attacks, more EPA regulations, punitive 'windfall' taxes and massive additional 'cap-and-trade' taxes imminent.
They think that the more they turn the screws on oil, the faster some new 'alternative' energy source will simply 'materialize'.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
All liberals are doing by regulations, taxes and restrictions on drilling is keeping the cost of oil artificially high.
Matter of fact, if I were BP, I'd be writing checks to the Democrat Party.
(Oh...wait a minute. Obama's been the top recipient of BP campaign cash in the last 2 years.)
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn I think the basic problem that corporations and thier executives have is that they are under constant and intense pressure to show good earnings on each quarterly report, every 3 months. This basically forces them to be shortsited and make shortcuts, this is simply the nature of corporate business. I think the role of government is to create incentives for them to think in a longer term basis.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 EVERYONE in business has to show a profit.
Why would BP, knowing the risk to lives or damage to the environment, deliberately cut corners as a matter of policy, knowing that the results could bankrupt them?
Tell me what 'shortcuts' BP made. Accidents are not always the result of 'shortcuts'.
Would you consider the Obama Administration's giving the rig a safety award, despite federal inspectors' failure to perform the last four monthly safety inspections a 'shortcut'?
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn I do understand very well that profit is thier very survival corporations have 2 responsibliltys 1 to make profit. 2 to follow law. Its not thier job to moralize or save world, or fight for social justice. The larger inteterests of humanity in our sytem is supposed to be represented by the government and the laws it sets and enforces, but in this case and many others its been a complete failure at what it exists to do.
lerch25 1 year ago
don't forget the .html
N4Nathan 1 year ago
American's use HCL as "their" acid to break apart the minerals underground. HCL is cheap and is extremely unsafe. If they used a non corrosive acid which costs more money thats 1 huge step forward. That's just 1 example.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
and FYI Oil consumption is dropping EVERY YEAR at the trends in the last decade society will never run out of oil. 35% of todays power is from oil... That is NOTHING. Why do we need to offshore drill when sufficient oil is right under us. All i can say is America HAS TO CHANGE THERE SAFETY REGULATIONS. Stop pumping down HCL.... So Stupid money money money all there after
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Really? I have a hard time believing that for one huge reason. China is quikly becoming a wealthy country, a country that has a population measured in billions. What is gonna happen when even half of them are driving to work everyday? I really believe sustainable energy sources are going to be needed in the future, and the sooner we move in that direction the beter. Oil is a resource that can and probably will be depleted in the future.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 China uses nuclear energy here i came EXTREMLY lucky in finding this video.. ted(dot)com/talks/richard_sears_planning_for_the_end_of_oil
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Sorry i can get that to work..try just copy and pasting it.
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Why do we need to 'offshore drill? You kidding? One word: ANWR. Liberals have fought tooth and nail to prevent ANY drilling ANYWHERE on or off shore. Oh, BTW: Isn't BP a British company?
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
Yes you could drop a dome over top of it or a ship but that doesn NOT solve the problem the sand and the extent of such pressure will eventually exceed the containment of the dome. Why is this politcs, whoever is responsible for such low safety regulations should be at fault.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
the posts are out of order because i had to break them up to post. :P
lerch25 1 year ago
This is just sad . All those innocent creatures being harmed by our doings. When will people learn? We are killing this beautiful planet. :-(
tabset01 1 year ago
Question: If BP is such an evil corporation for an INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT that killed 11 of their own workers, what does that make Saddam Hussein for DYNAMITING SEVEN HUNDRED Kuwaiti oil wells, releasing SIX MILLION BARRELS of oil PER DAY into the environment?
Hussein was liberals' best friend, a victim of Bush, Cheney and Halliburton. To them Saddam could do no wrong.
None of them condemned this because it would support President Bush.
Typical liberal hypocrisy.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn BP is not necesarily "evil", but they are responsible for thier own messes.
lerch25 1 year ago
I have the solution! I can fix this now. Sink an old ship over top of the leak. If a 100 ton dome was suppose to do anything; 100 000 tons WILL. Help me get heard
postpastx 1 year ago
OK do you mean Richard Armitage aide to senator Bob Dole liberal? Or do you mean Ricahrd Armitage advisor on foriegn affairs to Ronald Reagan liberal? Perhaps you meant Richard Armitage signatory to PNAC liberal? But obviously you meant Richard Armitage as deputy secretary of state of under the extrodanirily liberal Bush/Cheney admistration. It is one thing to be mistaken, but to be 100% off is a real acomplishment.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 So Armitage isn't 'liberal' because he worked for Cheney? Come on.
Colin Powell was Secretary of State under the extraordinarily liberal Bush/Cheney Administration.
But the record shows that Powell ALSO knew from the beginning that Armitage was the 'leaker' and the real target of a liberal Inquisition.
Yet Powell remained silent and watched his President, Vice President and administration officials endure an unnecessary, politically motivated and expensive persecution.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn I hate biting on this, but give me some examles of Armitages left leaning liberal ways.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 What? And be accused again of straying off topic?
After all, as you say, this "has absolutely no bearing on the deep water horizon disaster".
:D
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
BTW Armitage is by no stretch of the imagination left wing or liberal.
lerch25 1 year ago
the Light of the World, Let men see your anger with this. No Peace, No Love towards the ignorant, ungrateful, irresponsible, the human who thinks he wise and smart, The ones who thinks they need oil to survive, No Love, no peace. But destruction to all.
Luv2suckFemaleToes 1 year ago
@Luv2suckFemaleToes Huh?
lerch25 1 year ago
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and fight this disaster. Let us make a change for the better. There will be bloodshed but as history shows "real warriors aren't afraid to die", because we know death is an illusion when we stand with you. Almight God, Let your Sun, you Light ignite this oil and cause the earth to blaze getting rid of humans. In your name I pray to the "Sun of God" (Malachi 4:2, KJVersion)
Luv2suckFemaleToes 1 year ago
@stalker1983 BP sucks this line of work has got to end theres always a risk and the risk is to high especially when its about the earth it self, yes i like energy? but need oil for that no, but its billion dollar buisnes unfortunelly.
guitarwaysted 1 year ago
I guess this just keeps coming back to the simple fact that offshore drilling is absolutely mind bendingly stupid.
lerch25 1 year ago
But none the less i think the primary chalenge is to somehow come up with a solid surface to work with.
lerch25 1 year ago
the idea of the nitrogen is to freeze any water in the ground hardening the whole area up, this technique was used during the big dig in Boston
lerch25 1 year ago
needs time*
N4Nathan 1 year ago
I dount epoxy resin would work since it needs to settle. Nitrogen dissolves in water.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan the biggest problem i forsee with trying epoxy is finding one that will harden in the presence of all that crude oil
lerch25 1 year ago
the oil is either pushing through the cement base or is coming through the sand. Unfortunately you can't cap the hole because the pressure is wayy to high.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
I'm a Mechanical engineer by trade.. unfortunately mending fissures in the sea bed is a little out of my depth(no pun intended)
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25
"I'm a Mechanical engineer by trade"
Hmmm.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
I'm sure thats part of it
lerch25 1 year ago
Not only that but it "Flexes" there muscles.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
I just wish politicians had learned common sense when they were younger.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
i'm not sure if this idea has gotten around but i wonder if they could release a chemical agent to enter the cracks and holes and solidify the rock.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Yes! Do you know of any chemicals that would vulcanize crude oil?
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 I have no clue, i know there are polymers that are used onshore which soak up oil. However i'm not sure how they work or what type of oil it has to be. Less effort + less time = more money. Hence the idea of dropping a concrete dome -.-
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan if a fast acting vulcanizing agent could be injected deep into the fissures the oil itself might clog up the fissures.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 however with such high pressure the crust my crack some more. They clould also inject a larger drilling cylinder with higher pressure then the oil guyser where the oil would be forced to funnel. Although the ground at this point is extremely maluable.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I there someplace on the web i could find a good diagram of an offshore drilling well like this one?
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 i just did a quick search and there wern't any that would help in this case. I assume that the cement has washed away leaving a hole, since the pipe was removed the high pressure from the oil is travelling up the hole into the sand and ultimatly though the spout at the top. Creating the images we see here.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Ahhh i see there is simply nothing left solid enough to let the vulcanizing idea work
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I assume the area is covered with loose silt?
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Possibly epoxy resin could be injected into the unstable ground to harden the area up and give a solid surface to work with.
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Deeper beter insulated areas might be stabilzed by injecting nitrogen and freezing it
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 Follow this up with the vulcanizing, and top it all off with a really big concrete cap.
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I assume oil is still flowing through the hole in the concrete cap?
lerch25 1 year ago
it's frustrating looking at all these scenarios and it's more or less the United States going "Big" or being different. One of the only countries to still use empirical, one of the ONLY countries to drill offshore, and are in such a huge financial dept. Canada on the other hand drills only on land and has EXTREMELY high safety measures.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I'm with you there it seems this country has gotten into the habit of doing everything stupidly. The worst part about the nuke rumor is that.... if its true it only underscores how out of ideas they really are
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 The problem with politicicians is life is about accumulating power and little else for them, it is raw ambition often without meaningful direction.
lerch25 1 year ago
In this case i would create a dome but with a hole in the top with a concrete cylinder with a drill, that way the dome would contain the oil and the drill or the "tube" would allow us to capture the oil and use it. But that wont be manufactured in a reasonable time haha
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Sorry i didnt mean to blow off your idea. I just had a hard time visualizing it. it would be the dome idea but also with another drill reforming the existing hole?
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan your idea would help the methane hydrate problem that defeated the last dome by minimizing the methanes' contact with the sea water and it would be built on the surface where as my ideas are made impractical by the fact that these things would be difficult at best to do under 5000 feet of water.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 hey sorry i took off last night :P Yea i don't know i just through some random idea out there haha. It's especially hard because they wont tell us any info. All the public gets to hear is were killing the enviornment because of a "cementing malfunction". All they want is for the public to fall for their politcal BS that it was a machines fault.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Their lies now are only making things worse for them later. Do they really think they can cover what is a probable international catastropy up? The fact is they NEED the best minds in the world working on this, but that simply won't happen untill they openly share what they know. But that wont happen untill they absolutely have exhausted all possible lies. In the mean time things just get worse and worse.
lerch25 1 year ago
I have heard that nukes have been considered to stop this, which sounds f-ing batshit crazy or at least desperate. Is it even possible that could help? It sounds like a great way to open an even bigger and more poisonus hole to me.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 i'm not sure i'd ask my brother but he's not available, I'd say no mainly because the explosion would be underwater. However it's not a burn out it's oil, if it were on land and burning you could use an explosion, since the explosion would cause a vacuum for a millisecond which in fact would not alow oxygen to burn.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I think the nuke idea come from the fact i generates so much heat it would turn the sea bed into glass at the site
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 but for very obvious reasons that would be a desperate measure
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 hmm never looked at it that way, it'd think if it wern't controlled you'd cause like an underground sink hole.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan It was just a rumor i heard that it was being considered.
lerch25 1 year ago
Offshore rigs should not be aloud to be produced. The enviornmental threat they pose is 100x of times worse then onshore rigs. Look at the fires of Kuwait, although the situation is completely different, if it had occured underwater the world would be a NASTY place.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan thx for putting this into a more real.... if depressing perspective for me
lerch25 1 year ago
@N4Nathan The fires of Kuwait makes this spill a drop in the bucket.
Saddam dynamited nearly 700 oil wells and released six million barrels of oil per day into the environment.
I was there. I didn't see the sun for six entire months.
Go ahead. Stop offshore drilling. But you better stop all of it 'cause it's all equally dangerous to the environment.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Exactly my point. Offshore drilling is a dumb idea for at least 2 reasons. 1 is that it vastly magnifies the damaging effects to the environment of leaks. 2 because it vastly complicates dealing with any leakage that occurs, particularly in the case of deep water drilling. Now imagine if The Kuwait wells had been under water in the Persian Gulf. The effect there would not have been just really bad, but horrifying, apocolyptic.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 Hussein also opened pipelines INTO the Gulf.
Hussein is 'irrelevant'? The cause of the single most disastrous environmental catastrophe since Hiroshima and Nagasaki is 'irrelevant' to a discussion on a major oil leak?
Carl Sagan predicted the smoke from the Gulf oil fires would create a sort of 'nuclear winter' that would produce crop failures and even starvation. Is that 'apocalyptic' enough for you?
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
'Complicated'? Try getting close enough to a 800-degree oil fire flowing at 100 miles an hour to blow it out with a shaped explosive charge.
Done? Good. Now do it 699 more times. That's 'complicated'.
You'll never remove the risk from oil production. And banning US companies from drilling means they'll take their jobs, their rigs and their profits overseas where Obama can't tell them what to do.
And we'll pay through the nose for gasoline, if we can get it at all.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
Now libs will say, 'Good. We deserve to pay through the nose for what we've been doing to the earth'.
Try telling that to the poor family in Detroit who'll be freezing their asses off this winter 'cause they can't afford to heat their home, fill up their car and put food on the table at the same time.
Just so you libs can feel better.
If you really 'cared' about the 'little guy', you'd be pushing for more drilling for lower prices.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn I think oil the our absolute dependence on oil is one of the biggest problems this country faces. If we spent a quarter the amount of money on R@D for alternative energy sources, transportation,and energy conservation that we have on the 2 disastrous wars that are slowly bankrupting the country and simultaneously making that world hate us. .
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 That's crap. First of all 'dependence' is a loaded and negative term. There is nothing wrong with oil or the internal combustion engine which has liberated mankind from horses, trains, and regional isolation.
And throwing money at a problem does not 'create' a solution...and neither do government dictates, taxes and restrictions on private travel.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn A negative term for a negative thing. I should have used an even stronger word...addiction...One of the biggest reasons that it is a bad thing is the simple fact every form of industry including pharmacuticals and agriculture is completely dependent on it. Couple that with a finite supply and growing demand and you have a recipe for big trouble.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 What gives you the right to sit on YOUR ivory throne and lecture the rest of us on OUR 'addiction' to oil?
Do you drive a car? Take a bus or plane?
Heat or cool your house?
Fill a prescription?
Fix a BLT (bacon, lettuce and tomato) sandwich?
News flash, pal. You're just as 'addicted' as the rest of us.
You're just as much a part of the 'problem'.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Couldn't have said it better myself
jonfranco224 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn We would be ahead of the rest of the world with entirely new industrys generating money here, and exporting this technology abroad. We would also be admired instead of hated. I'm also sure the poor family in Detroit would be beter off, perhaps no longer poor and working in an industry that previously never existed
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 What are you talking about? We ARE ahead of the rest of the world.
Just because Europe is bankrupting itself throwing money at windmills and solar panels that doesn't make them 'green' leaders. It's a fact anyway that the environmental movement (the 'Greens') is the new home of anti-capitalist socialists.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
Why would the 'poor family' in Detroit be better off? Detroit isn't called 'Motown' for nothing. Why aren't they working in the auto industry? Where's all the car jobs?
I'll tell you. Driven overseas by liberal Democrats and their union thugs.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn okay so firstly i know ZERO about american politics at the time the kuwait fires were terrible however each of them were left on flares (Controlled Flames) at the time the problem was difficult to solve however we accomplished it. This underwater (Accident) Which COULD 100% of been avoided if the safety regulations in the USA wern't so damn low. The kuwait fires yes tragic but CONTROLLED you cannot control a spill underwater given the elements.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn The problem here is they have no idea how to fix this thing, the Kuwait fires were horrible, but they knew how to fix them. In this case no one is even sure if it is even possible to fix. It is very possible this thing could be spewing oil 20 years from now. This simply points out the fact that offshore drilling is a really bad idea.
lerch25 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Kuwait was also the outcome of a TERRIBLE man, The outcome was tragic but because of the flares they were able to place charges to deprive oxygen. In an underwater case there is no fire there is no safety flare. Oil production is safe if the industry was regulated with proper laws. Here in Canada the safety regulations are SO high, i'm not saying it's a safe job, heck no job is safe. All i'm saying is oil wells are not a high risk if monitored PROPERLY.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Tragic? It was a DELIBERATE environmental crime. And there was no unified outrage on the Left; in fact, liberal Democrats like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Al Gore (Al Gore!) attacked their own country for liberating Iraq from this monster.
(Question? Do nerve gases dumped on Kurds and Iranians harm the environment?)
Regulations are intended to minimize accidents. Nothing can prevent them.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
So you agree that the Obama Administration's failure to perform the last four monthly inspections, and still give them a SAFETY AWARD, contributed directly to the blowout of this well?
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Sorry for coming off as an A Hole, anyways like i said i am Canadian and i barely recognize any of the names you guys are talking about. High safety regulations can stop spills especially this one, the thing people don't know is how low they are. The biggest example i like to use is the HCL.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Absolutely! I loved Barack Obama candidate, i despise Barack Obama president.
lerch25 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Yes...Saddam Hussein was scum. But he is also dead, and very much irrelevant to the Deep Water Horizon disaster.
lerch25 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn I hope that we are at least in agreement that offshore drilling needs to be stopped....completetly and permanently.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25
Why only offshore drilling? All drilling has its dangers. Stop all drilling.
And stop shipping oil in supertankers. That's just as risky.
While we're at it, let's ban air travel. Air crashes at sea definitely impact the ocean's delicate ecosystems.
And gasoline tankers and storage facilities have been the sites of some spectacular conflagrations. Let's ban them too.
And then everyone's gonna wonder why gasoline is $10 a gallon...IF they can get it at ALL.
THINK, man.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn "Why only offshore drilling? All drilling has its dangers. Stop all drilling.
" Why stop onshore drilling, it's actually REALLY safe just spend the extra dime and pump down not so acidid acids, and tighten safety regulations. TADA.. Oil in supertankers... a supertanker sinks firstly the odds are INSANE and secondly the oil can be controlled. Why stop air traffic? Your safer in a plane then a car.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@ironhorzmn Secondly an airplane is not that large compared to a deposit of oil lmfao. I'm not even going to bother stating you wrong on the last point. $10 a gallen? Then pay off your national dept and try importing oil from western canada. O wait i forgot Ego is too high have to fo it themselves.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan
Do you understand 'sarcasm'? I'm not the one who suggested banning offshore drilling.
That was 'lerch25'.
Now who's 'wrong'?
I have no idea what your last illiterate, irrelevant and incoherent point was so I won't even try to deal with it.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
I still have no sympathy for BP. Its like the Pottery Barn...you broke it. you bought it. BP broke one big f-ing vase!
lerch25 1 year ago
and apparently I can't spell :P the*
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@lerch25 All hte questions you asked me i've run through him to make sure.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
am I suppose to like this or dislike?????
DeveloperJermaine 1 year ago
so why cant they wrap something around the pipe?....or try and clog the hole wiht something?.....but say they wrapped liek 100 fishing nets aroudn the pipe it would stop...or at least slow down untill soething else it down about it? no...?
7koolys7 1 year ago
soo how long with this spill go on for? iv heard there are huge plumes of oil km long and high underwater. wildlife is literally being wiped out everywhere!
Jenivera 1 year ago
@implode44 Im not sure you understand, but they cant stop the flow. For what ever reason the mechanism that was suppose to stop the flow of oil didn't close.
rogelead 1 year ago
meh dont care.
SpicyHam 1 year ago
i love it when USA gets damaged.
SirJazz 1 year ago
what is that?
SmallGoneBig 1 year ago
We are doomed, and we deserve it. We've brought this to ourselves. It would've been much better for mother earth if human race didn't existed.
udhtari1 1 year ago 2
@udhtari1 wow your optimistic
implode44 1 year ago
@implode44 Is not about being optimist, all I'm saying is look at the damage the humankind has done to this planet thus to ourselves. I think everyone would agree when I say that we have taken things for granted and we deserve to pay the consequences just like we are starting to with the global warming and all that.
udhtari1 1 year ago
People should quit blaming others and quit wasting time and just fix the f#%^ing problem !!! What a friggen joke !
19717600 1 year ago
2 words.. American Regulations. Regulations in the United States are embaressingly low. Not only are the regulations so low but bp failed to meet them. They violated over 300 safety regulations not to mention having to dish out 50million dollar fine in 2007. Unless these regulations tighten i would not be surprised if another spill occurs.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Absolutely! at a minimum they have to undo the deregulation that happened under Bush/Cheney. That deregulation had to be one ofthe most self centered, self serving acts from govt officials in the history of our sell serving government. Cheney himself was a ceo of Haliburton which makes a huge portion of its money subcontracting to oil companys, they of course were also involved in the particular well.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 I agree completely with what you're saying. I feel almost embarrassed that I failed to recall the Bush/Cheney legacy. Yes, Cheney's mark is all over this disaster. Thanks for the reminder!
Teachering 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Honestly i dont think Obama will do the right thing on his own either, but this disaster might force his hand on it
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 I hope so, from a chem eng perspective the drilling regulations in the United States are considered childish. The Acid's that are aloud to be pumped into these wells are far too dangerous. In this circumstance it is quite complex, I strongly disagree with the drilling regulations, but in all honesty in this particular case the spill was more unlucky then anytihng else. No one would have imagined the ground to break apart as it did.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Ok good so you actually know something about this...Explain to me what exactly happened because im definitly not getting any perspective on technical side of what happened anywhere else.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 Okay so firstly let me say that the united states are one of few countries that do offshore drilling. Offshore is extremely dangerous because "this" could happen and did happen. Now an offshore platform is built over an oil deposite, from the platform they drill a giant cement tube over top of the deposit to drill the oil up.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@lerch25 However in this case it has not been confirmed all they say is that it was a "cementing issue" or a malfunction well in fact we believe that the ground in which the tube was injected into was unstable. In order to pump the oil out of the rock formation is to use high pressure, this highpressure can cause fractures in th rock formation. .
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@lerch25 We believe that when the pressure was introduced the oil came up both the tube and secreted through the fractures. These fractures are outside the cement tube.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan I am guessing that these same leaks are what caused a slick that caught fire and sunk the oil rig?
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 i'm not sure as too what happened EXACTLY but I imagined that when cementing the cylinder which would incase the drill, the pressure exceeded and created fractures in the rock formation. Causing the ground to be unstable I would imagine that everything just went downhill from there.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Do you work for BP or one of the subcontractors?
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 No, I am only in University. I had a long talk with my brother about it he has his masters in chem eng.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@lerch25 Therefore the oil was escaping outside of the cement cylinder. Now BP says they will drop a cement dome over top of it however if the pressure underneath the dome is great enough it will lift the dome, causing more of a mess. Theoretically there is NO possible way to stop the pressure of the oil, the only way is to wait untill the oil deposit is depleaded
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan Hmmmm this is very discouraging..It basicaly sounds like this is going to at LEAST leave the gulf sterile and poisonous! Up to this point i was under the impresion this was just a tricky plumbing problem. All i can say is hope you're wrong.
lerch25 1 year ago
@lerch25 I hope I am wrong as well, the spill will end eventually whether by humans or deposit depletion. Considering the spill is offshore makes the situation 100x worse. Offshore drilling should not be aloud.
N4Nathan 1 year ago
@N4Nathan So much for "drill baby drill!"
lerch25 1 year ago
How flipping sad is this ? seriously! why isn't or should I say why aren't we doing something about this? Do we not think this is a crisis or what? Are we humans really that self absorbed! (really)
MultiShaggster 1 year ago
Wtf is this supposed to be I don't see anything?
walid562 1 year ago
bp is takin most of the hit here,bt did yall know the 2 other partys involved are anadarko energy?and did you know george bush is the 1 shareholder in that company,and haliburton..did you know dick cheney is the #1 shareholder in that company?funny how the american gov,is allowing this environmental disaster happen in full view of the planet,dark times my freinds
ramblinrocker 1 year ago
Let's send some rednecks to this spill... They would find a way to stop the leak with a roll of duct tape and a 5 gallon bucket.
UnholyMan122 1 year ago