Cosmic Conflict 1 - Origin of Evil

[tiano1965]

Satan was created in the Garden, Isahiah 14 plainley speaks of the the king of Babylon.lucifer is not a greek or hebrew word it,s latin how did it get mistranslated

[ghostgate82]

There was no "war in Heaven." There is no "before" the Universe. The Bible says "In the BEGINNING" God created the HEAVENS and the Earth." The "Fall" happened AFTER God made Adam. The battle Revelation talks about has NOT happened yet. The "Fallen Angels" are the 200 who came down in the times of Noah and fathered the "giants" of Gen 6:4. Satan is NOT a fallen angel. Satan resides in the 2nd Heaven. God ALLOWS him to temp mankind just like He allowed him to tempt Job. The war happens after trib.

[rhjpmm]

This is one of the most stupid things I have ever seen, along with the most eval "Jesus Camp"

[nadroj728]

is theree sin in heaven?

[bheyzlovebigtimerush]

@nadroj728 no, there isn't

[faztclix]

@bheyzlovebigtimerush

I believe there was one big ass sin in Heaven at one point. Lucifer.

[drewcat7]

quite possibly the stupidest video of all time.

[juuonse]

"Documentaries" like these and people who actually believe in this cosmic bullcrap scare me shitless...

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse But yet you believe that humans evolved from a puddle of monkey urine hahaha. You will meet the LORD one day! Get saved while you have the chance.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 and yet you believe u were poofed into existence from dirt... how bout you go and learn a bit about abiogenesis and evolution, maybe you'll learn a thing or two...but i'm guessing that your head is too well fortified by stacks of bibles for anything reasonable and even slightly realistic to penetrate into your head...

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse Correction: I believe I was created. You think that male and female evolved from a puddle of monkey urine. Evolution is a hoax and fairy tale. Evolution is dumb and foolish. Why are you even wasting your time on here? Makes no sense! Atheists are just angry people who cannot tolerate that not everybody believes the hogwash they do.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 Sorry mate, wrong again. You believe whatever it is you want to believe. Just don't go around yelling that everyone else should do the same, or go around trying to affect other peoples' lives based on whatever mumbojumbo you believe in. Fact is that every bit of unbiased scientific data points towards evolution being a fact. What your holy book says has no bearing in this matter nor in the matter of other people's lives who don't share your beliefs. THAT is why I care.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse If you believed the Bible was a fairy tale you wouldn't even be wasting your time posting your rants. If you don't repent and accept Jesus Christ you will go to a horrible hell. God doesn't want anyone in hell, but unless you change your attitude you will sell your soul to the Devil and never get it back. Hell is more horrible than what your mind can conceive. But you are willing to take that risk because you don't want to let go of your sins. I feel very sorry for you.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 lol, nice god you got there. He's benevolent and all powerful, but still chooses to send me to hell for an infinity for a finite "crime". Do you see the absurdity of that logic? I'm guessing no. And please, stop putting words in my mouth, I just told you why I "rant". Tell me, do YOU believe that I should be punished for all eternity for a crime that has lasted about 2 years if I died today? And do you think the punishment is at par with the "crime"?

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse God doesn't send anybody to hell, people send themselves there. Your sins are eternal and therefore require eternal punishment. If there is no hell for guilty sinners then that means evil people like Hitler, rapists, criminals etc have gone to their grave and have gotten away with their evil. A guilty sinner will not go unpunished. If people choose to live in sin and reject Jesus Christ then they send themselves to hell. You are taking a big gamble.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 so lets see....a robber points you with a gun and tells you "give me your wallet or I'll kill you" You refuse and he shoots you. Who killed who? God says:"believe in me or I'll put you in hell (despite being benevolent, but lets just skip that part)" You refuse to believe due to lack of proper evidence. He puts you in hell... So who's the one taking the action here. Come on, don't be an idiot. And by the same logic Hitler, rapist, murderers etc i.e evil people get to go to

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 heaven just as long as they repent their sins and accept jesus into their heart. And I get to go to hell for living a loving life, caring for my fellow human beings, being moral, trying to do the right, but I just can't find it in me to believe in something with blind faith. And I'm the one getting punished for all eternity? Yeah...very logical indeed.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse But if people don't repent of their sins then they send themselves to hell. God cannot allow everyone into His kingdom because a Holy God cannot tolerate sin. Your sins are eternal and so is the punishment. And God has revealed Himself through creation and the Bible. If people choose to be ignorant and stick their head in the sand then they condemn themselves. You say you live a loving life but yet you have still sinned and come short of God's glory. Only Jesus Christ can save you.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 You still don't get it do you? Your god COULD let atheists into heaven if he so chooses. Yet he does not. He is the one making the decision. Not I or anyone else. In the end it is his decision. So don't go saying that I or anyone else condemns themselves to hell if it in the end is not their decision to make. God could forgive us our sins regardless of our beliefs. To me god has not revealed himself. Bible and his "creation" is not evidence. By that account Allah

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse Ok, if you were to knock on the door of the most expensive house in the country and say to the owners, "Excuse me I'm moving in with you" what do you think they would say? They would shut the door in your face. They don't know you. They have no relationship with you. So if you go through your whole life wanting nothing to do with God and refuse to repent of your sins then why should God let you into His kingdom. God cannot allow sin into heaven, therefore he can't just let atheists in!

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 could just as well be correct, they have the Quran and according to it Allah created everything. They can't both be correct...but they can both be wrong. Especially when every bit of unbiased scientific research done supports an old earth argument, evolution, etc. I suppose your god just made it look like the earth was around 4,4 billion years old and that humans and every other creature/life form evolved from a common ancestor...quite a sneaky lil bastard if you ask me

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse And the Bible and creation IS evidence. The Quran cannot compare to the Bible concerning fulfilled prophecies, historical evidence etc. It's upto you to do your own research and find out which one holds the most evidence. And there is no scientific evidence that supports a 4.4 billion year old earth. The only evidence you have is the word of scientists, and scientists have shown to be dishonest time and time again!

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 I was going to reply to you based on your first comment. But this second one shows just how hopeless it would be. Good day.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse Likewise! But just remember that it's too late after you die. This life is the only chance you get to be saved from your sins and spend eternity in heaven instead of hell. Choose wisely. Nothing is worth losing your soul to the Devil.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 well I'm going choose wisely according what has and has not been proven to realistic and valid... I hope that you pick the right religion out of tens of thousands of possibilities...or perhaps none at all

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse I only pick the religion that has presented me with the most evidence. Just because there are lots of false religions doesn't mean there can't be a true religion. If it turns out that Allah is the true God then I'll just have to accept my punishment. However, from the research I have done I am positive that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.

[juuonse]

@SoldierOfChrist110 and the question is...do you think the punishment would fit the crime if Allah indeed is the true god...if not then why would you even want to worship a deity like that. Same question applies to the christian god. I just wish you could see through that and see why it is all so absurd. It does not matter what you think will happen but whether or not you think what will happen is just or not.

[SoldierOfChrist110]

@juuonse No, the punishment would not fit the crime.....this is because Muslims believe that Allah tricked everybody into believing that Jesus was crucified. They believe Allah deceived them. In the Quran Allah is also called the great deceiver, like Satan! This would mean that Allah created Christianity by His own deception. However, the Christian God does not want to deceive people into a false religion like Allah does. That's the difference.

[jasason10]

True story huh? No wonder nonbelievers laugh at us.

[Acrimonator]

LOL, the anagram of Doug Batchelor is LotR douchebag...

[mauidavidartur]

The Golden age is upon us. Satan and his minions have been brought to heel. they will accept the covenant of the new and walk the path of salvation and return to the Father.

[helenmmelo]

The Bible says clearly that evil will not rise twice, it is also clear in saying that Satan and his angels will be exterminated, and all who follow him here on earth. We are not in the golden age, are at the end of the world, Christ's return is imminent!

[mauidavidartur]

@helenmmelo .Christ has already come, God is coming. There are two Deaths. Physical/Spiritual and Spiritual/Celestial. Read 2nd Corinthians carefully, for all shall be changed in a blinking of an eye also with a change in the spiritual law/age there is a change in the priesthood. The Golden Age has come, and i have proof that your eyes can see in the sky above Aotearoa New Zealand The New Golden Moon.

[juuonse]

@helenmmelo yes yes, i've heard that before.... for the past millenia or so... 

[cooldude3663]

How did iniquity get there?

[helenmmelo]

We have no information about how the evil struck at the heart of Lucifer, the Bible even says this is a mystery, but the same Bible says that both the originator of sin, as all those who followed him in heaven and on earth, have the same destination, eternal destruction.

[mauidavidartur]

@helenmmelo .We know that The One Formerly known as coveted the worship of man for God as much as his knowledge was not complete in terms of the Creator.

[mauidavidartur]

@mauidavidartur . The Christ has already come. God is coming via the new golden age when we receive the new divine celestial light body and we will be able to exist in his presence. The Dark One and his head honchos have surrendered and will walk the path of salvation under the supervision of the High Priesthood of God.

[Alonesoldier100]

@mauidavidartur What are you talking about? What your talking about has no biblical structure nor dose scripture back up what your saying. and as for the Golden moon in the sky over Aotearoa NZ, I'm from and still living in Aotearoa New Zealand and the moon is not golden its white as usual. So your visual proof lacks truth. Oh and as for Satan and his Honchos surrendering lacks truth as well

cause Satan still temps me every second, every minute and every day.

[mauidavidartur]

@Alonesoldier100 . Greetings brother. It doesnt surprise me that you can not see the Golden moon, not everyone can. I will post a video when there is a good one. There are those that can see it very well. Satan was a voice in many many minds, i know that he has left many around me. I do not see him around you, perhaps it is your surface mind that wanders to and fro, what is it that you desire? Do you love yourself, God or everything and all?. Peace.

[Alonesoldier100]

@mauidavidartur I desire the truth and will accept nothing less.

[mauidavidartur]

@Alonesoldier100 . There are other worlds that cannot be seen with human eyes, but only with spiritual eyes. The Golden moon that i speak of can only be seen with the spiritual. Peace to you bro.

[mauidavidartur]

@Alonesoldier100 . The White glow you have seen in the Moon is All good and represents the grace and mercy of God has for us, on a person it is seen as a white robe. i have prayed and asked that you will see the Gold, so next full Moon. It is a matter of timing. Jesus is already here and the Father is coming. The Earth, Mankind indeed all Life is shifting into the New Golden Age of God. There is only one way for Man to become immortal and that is to become a High Priest/Priestess of God.

[Alonesoldier100]

@mauidavidartur Hey Bro. You got scriptures to back all that up, Cause I can't find any on us having to become priest for immortality. But I know a few where only by Jesus Christ that we will have that Immortality, not by our own righteousness by becoming priest. I don't know about Jesus being here already. Scripture says that Jesus will come on the clouds of the sky, with great glory.(Matt 24:30)

Look he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him (REV 1:7)

Hasn't happen yet Bro.

[mauidavidartur]

@Alonesoldier100. Hey bro, peace to you and all that you love.The High Priesthood of God are the Sons and Daughters of God that will live and co-create with the Father when he comes and makes everything a-new. Jesus is indeed already in the clouds which represents our higher faculty of thought and spiritual aspiration, as well as being a literal truth. It is a bit different for me because of my bloodline and the gifts of God that came through that bloodline to the present. I am a seer.

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@mauidavidartur

Yes Jesus is with us in our hearts, but he has not returned physically yet.

Where are you getting this priesthood immortality from?

Is this taught in the Bible?

[mauidavidartur]

@ZhadoxFlamez .The High Priesthood of God is mentioned in the Bible. Hebrews and 1st Corinthians. What is physical? when this world will pass away when the Father makes everything anew?. There is only one way for man to become immortal and that is to become a son of god which is to serve him and his creation as a High Priest forever.

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@mauidavidartur

Not only does that contradict the Bible when it says if you believe in God and repent for your sins, you will have a place in heaven, not only does it contradict the phrase,"All men are equal", but it also indicates that self-appointed High Priests can be at Jesus' level. Jesus is our High Priest, and he offers the gift of eternal life. If God wanted everyone to be with him, according to your statement, then everyone would have to be a High Priest.

[mauidavidartur]

@ZhadoxFlamez . Revelation says, to he who conquers they will sit next to the Father like the one our brother Jesus. A High Priest of God is an Angel and only those who are chosen before the foundation of the Earth will become so. It is the confirmation of the covenant made in heaven with the father to take part in the plan of salvation. Those that return to him will be restored to their former glory, those that return with victory will be added upon.

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@mauidavidartur

Now where does it say that God will appoint any human to be higher then others?

[mauidavidartur]

@ZhadoxFlamez . There are those upon Earth who come from Heaven to experience life as Human, unknowing and unsure in a state of forgetfulness , to reclaim their divinity as a child of God, that is the victory spoken of in revelation. No human will be set above another in the eyes of God except parents over a child. However a Son or Daughter of God is part of a hierarchy of angels who constitute God's family. He will be with Us, and We will be with Him and so will you if that is your fate. Peace.

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@mauidavidartur

Where does it say that there are beings in Heaven that come down into Earth to experience life as human to reclaim their divinity?

All I'm saying is that I know that the High Priest is Jesus, and we humans can never be above one another, and can forgive no Sin, or has any authority over another human, except for a parent and their child.

[mauidavidartur]

@ZhadoxFlamez . Jesus, in his parables spoke of how to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and we know Mankind was cast out of paradise where he walked and talked with God. We are a divine spark of God and one day we will return to him.

I agree that no-one is above another when one speaks of Mankind, but someone can forgive another totally. All I am saying is that there is a High Priesthood who are the Sons of God of which Jesus is the most famous member.

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@mauidavidartur

When I say forgive, I mean no human has the power to cleanse someone else of their sins against God.

That is the decision of the sinner, and power of God alone.

[mauidavidartur]

@ZhadoxFlamez . I agree. Peace.

[NocturnP]

@mauidavidartur Mankind did not came from Heaven. Men did not exist before God formed Adam from the dust. The Garden of Eden (Paradise) was on Earth where God created Adam from the dust of the ground. Do not preach lies.

[NocturnP]

@mauidavidartur Jesus said also in Mathew 23:8, that he is the Master, and we are brothers. False prophet... What former glory??? Only Adam and Eve were perfect, but they loose their glory, and cursed, and so us all, their offspring. Also there is no predestination, but free will. We are all came from the same place: our mother's womb. We are all born in sin. Only if we accepts the forgivness of Jesus and his sacrifice, and become born again in Christ, only then we're can be saved: Salvation.

[Acrimonator]

@helenmmelo and god didn't see this coming ?

[ZhadoxFlamez]

@cooldude3663

It is usually thought that Lucifer began to look at himself as good and start to think he could be like God, or maybe even better. It's kind of like letting your mind wander to things.

[TruthLogic]

there are only a handfull of nations who are not controled by the satanist elite of this world

and america is NOT one of them!!

[helenmmelo]

The United States of America has a vital role in Bible prophecy, is the beast with two horns described by Daniel, I recommend reading the book of Daniel and Revelation 16:13 and 14. The US-apostate Protestantism, along with Spiritism - UN and the Papacy - Catholicism, will form the triple alliance, which will bring into force the decree Sunday and persecution to those who do not accept their charges. At the culmination of all these events will be the return of Jesus!

[TruthLogic]

@helenmmelo

yes as a Muslim i can accept that MAY happen, Details will show them selves in time...

Muslims Belive the "Dajjal" system of control will increase its oppresion & wars which will culmianate with the Return of Prophet Jesus ( peace be Upon him )

In damascuss Syria.

after which he will unite the 3 faiths to take on the Dajjal System of control..

Islam is the only power apposing this system of world Governance?

what do u think?

[ArmageddonComingSoon]

@helenmmelo Islam is the beast and Antichrist. I can prove it. I use to be in the SDA church and I know exactly why they think it's the catholic church and America. They are wrong. The beast and Antichrist is Islam. Islam fits every single description of the beast and Antichrist.

[juuonse]

@helenmmelo and this is EXACTLY why fundamental crazies should not be having their finger on the big red "nuke everyone" button....

[ButtZilla1031]

@TruthLogic

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LMAO!!! You sure about that??? LOL

[Imaginefree69]

The origin of evil is no mystery.

YHVH boasts about it enough:

"I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace, and CREATE EVIL:

I the LORD do all these things."

Isaiah 45:7

[easyalpha1]

For the production, this video is really cool. It works. Of course the bible is a book everyone should read.

[lizazoon]

Good and evil are very relative concepts. Goodness towards family is a strong factor in evolution.

[cornerstone111]

I see a bunch of poofy arse christians who cant fight, trying to make out they are powerful angels in a cosmic war lol

[lilsoulkid]

AN AnCIENT BOOK!!!!!????I know he's a christian, so why is he calling the book acient.

[Mekelsior]

Because it is. The book was began written in the 1500 BC. So quite old.

[fazholio]

lightsabers !

[slivanus1]

lucifer as a babylonian king, is wrong, base on history (mesopotamian, babylonian empire)there is no king named lucifer who ruled babylon, the  name lucifer is not even babylonian.

[MuchRejoycing]

Seen all of the film , still think Star Wars was better ,, more believable at least .

[cre8tah504]

actually in beginning lucifer did that how he plays adam

[yokoissatan]

the devil rebelled after jesus died and was resurrected. before then, he was the tempter. its in revelations. chapter 12. look it up

[cre8tah504]

lucifer is his name but devil adversary temper is real title of nu name satan

[yokoissatan]

no, lucifer was a babylonian king. satan was never called lucifer. read the bible, brother, don't be deceived by the church. it is our saviour Jesus Christ we must trust in, not false prohets coming in his name!

[slivanus1]

I hate to do this but your information,on lucifer as a babylonian king, is wrong, base on history (mesopotamian, babylonian empire)there is no king named lucifer who ruled babylon, the name lucifer is not even babylonian.

[inthelight7771]

Babylon is referred to in Revelation and is a symbol of not just a city but of world systems of the antichrist

[ruber4life]

@yokoissatan when in the bible does it say lucifer is babolonian read revelation 12 dude get the facts before you go all smartalec about God

and satan was the name adopted by lucifer to get rid of his heavenly title

[ruber4life]

@yokoissatan and again babylon represents sin in all nature

so thats whut ur probably talking about

people get things mixed up, i dont blame you

[amminadab2010]

AMEN YOKOISSATAN PLEASE KEEP IT UP.

[yokoissatan]

thanks man. this is a perilous time, a time when God is gonna weed out his true followers. little things like this don't really matter, but it's the principle of the thing: we all too often depend on the church to tell us what God's word is, instead of the church being the place where we come together to celebrate the life found therein.

[ruber4life]

@amminadab2010 read revilation 12

[lizazoon]

ruber4life Revelation is pure fantasy

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon so what makes you think that Revelation is a fantasy. its a symbollical book, and to understnad you have to understand the whole bible, and daniel and revelation go hand in hand, you need both to understand them. and since nothing has been proven wroong within prophecy of the bible, im just curious...fantasy...how so?

[lizazoon]

@pyrofreak8 .-- and since nothing has been proven wroong within prophecy of the bible-- Bible prophecy is total fantasy. If you make a prophecy vague enough chances are it will be fulfilled sooner or later. Prophecies,like those in the bible, lacking EXACT IRREFUTABLE data, are no better than horoscopes.

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon i beg to differ, take the daniel 2 prophecy, it predicted babylon being taken over by persia, persia taken over by greece along with the 3 other nations that persia had to take over, greece being taken over by rome, and it predicted the dividing of the roman empire, it also predicted that they would try to cleave to one another and fail,

[lizazoon]

@pyrofreak8 Man you have a lot of fantasy and misinformation.

[lizazoon]

@lizazoon Where do you get all this nonsense ?

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon look at world war II and nazi germany, look at the EU. and all the other ones. all thats left is the rock destroying the statue, which is Christs second. and there are many prophecies to tell us how close we are to that, and its very close. so how it is fantasy.

[lizazoon]

@pyrofreak8 : So what is it about the Nazi Germany, the Eu ? Are they in the bible too ?

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon its about the roman empire being divided into ten nations, 3 of them dies off, but it mentions that these divided nations would try to cleave to one another, its talking about those nations, which is europe, trying to have a one world government, all trying to have unity between the nations and such

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon its all also historically accurate, that there was a king david, and that Jesus did exist and that pilate existed aswell, so how is that fantasy, the question is, is Jesus really God or just another man. well there are 300 prophecies pointing to Jesus as God. if you took 48 out of the 300, the probability of that happening is 1 with 157 zero's behind it, scientists say that there are 1 with 80 zero's behind it of atoms in it in the entire universe...

[lizazoon]

@pyrofreak8 There is not even evidence for a king David. All they have is a name on a pillar. All those prophecies are to vague to qualify as prophecies they are horoscopes, makes them vague enough and chances are sooner or later they will be fulfilled.

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon ...Fantasy, I think not. Jesus died a horrific death for our sins, because he loves of more than we can imagine. Its still not to late to accept Jesus as your personal saviour.

[lizazoon]

@pyrofreak8 He didn`t have to die a horrific death. First of all, he is allmighty, he could have chosen a less bloody way for our salvation. Secondly, why did we need salvation, when all the genarations before christ didn`t.

[pyrofreak8]

@lizazoon um yes they did actually, adam and eve had to kill a lamb, to prevent there immediate destruction. and thus it was for everyone else aswell, God could of killed everyone but he never. and Jesus did have to dies on the cross, it was the only way.

[cre8tah504]

indeed ,years of different reseachers translaten day star latin its lucifer idenifiying them metiphor as he did with job or the other names he indenifys satan with,snake serpant dragon king of tyre ,but it doesnt matter in jesus name is above all names satan was of god in the beginning he not now seekin who he may devoyer he stay close 2 god ,wat can the enemy do 2 us, like in job

[cre8tah504]

הילל

hêylêl

BDB Definition

Lucifer = light-bearer

1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer

1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (figuratively

2) Helel describing the king of Babylon

Part of Speech: noun masculine

A Related Word by BDB/Strongs Number: H1984 (in the sense of brightness)

: Babylon is also referred to throughout the Bible as evil having to do with satan. being Revelation 18:2 "And he cried out voice, saying: Babylon great is fallen,; and is the habitation of devils,

[slivanus1]

really? I think you should read that chapter again, there was no mention of Jesus being dead in that chapter, it just said the dragon(devil) tried to kill the woman counteless of time, but she hid in the wildness, escaped and was saved by the earth , the child who was born, there was no indication he died.

[lucamendes]

Voce sabe se esses videos estão a venda no Brasil? se sim, aonde? agradeço...

[Maratrushka]

Thats why vanity is his favorite weapon against us

[DMrJOK3R]

Hey I uploaded this to but they blocked the videos what can i do i'm not trying to take credit Just want to share thanx GOD Bless

[naremorect]

Yea, i wanted to share this video as well, but amazing facts won't let anybody do it unless you get absolute permission from them. Some of the ppl that have posted it got permission. But the point is amazing facts wants ppl to actually buy the video so it can help the ministry which is understandable..are you an adventist?

[wallcrawler50]

Raptor Jesus. He Went Extinct For Our Sins And Is Full Of LoL's