jevans is right, but doing this on road cars is not a good idea if you want to do anything other than go fast. There's a lesson to be learned there. Race your race car. Drive your ordinary car like a sane person. Do anything you want with our R/C car!
@wsbill14224 You are mostly correct but not 100%, you get more fuel delivery during a nitrous oxide run in an RC car due to a sequence of events that takes place during a nitrous run. When the nitrous oxide breaks down in the combustion chamber the added oxygen causes a more rapid and complete burn of the fuel, this in turn increases combustion chamber pressure (hence more power) the increased combustion chamber pressure causes higher pressure in the exhaust system.
Higher exhaust pressure pressurizes the fuel tank to a higher level than normal which increases fuel flow. With my nitrous system I saw a 64% increase in fuel flow during a wide open throttle nitrous run.
Dam, there nitro cars and trucks mostly are gunna need a bigger fuel tank if the nitro fuel is burned 64% faster than normal. might as well spend the cash you'd be spending on nitro fuel, on a new nitro engine that goes as fast as it would if you had nitrous, or the closest thing
@jevans3d Since you install them for a living you should know the power from Nitrous being around 36% pure oxygen. The air we breathe, the same air that gets sucked into an engine is only about 21% pure oxygen. Just like itsgr82bl8 said, you're basically injecting more oxygen into the chamber. More oxygen and more fuel = more power. Its not how cold the air is.
actually.. i know a group by me that does professional performance to these engines and since its in a way a diesel engine.. ive seen some 100+mph rc's on propane and small vortec and rooter chargers also.. these kits are THOUSANDS tho haha
Actually, the nitrous oxide is cold so it condenses the air entering the engine, denser air means more oxegen and fuel in th emix so more power... thats how its works. I fit them to real cars for a living....
Yes nitrous oxide is cold, and yes that does increase horse power however that is not where the majority of the increase comes in. For every 10 degrees you lower intake temp you pick up about 1% in horse power. The major increase comes from the added oxygen you get from the nitrous oxide entering the combustion chamber and oxidizing or burning the fuel more rapidly. See my video for a demonstration. Nitrous oxide through a cigarette.
It was truly a treat to read the comments on this, and highly entertaining that you have the knowledge to shut up the idiots that cant help but make a stupid uneducated comment. Great video by the way!
hey people what other evidence do you need other than when he shot the nitrous it made the tires go faster and in doing that would have made the truck go faster if it were on the ground. So all scientific explanations aside, see it with your eyes it did make a difference, weather or not you think it did, would, should or could have, it did.
Lol it seems like no one knows what the hell they're talking about in these comments LOL. Nitro is now apparently the same thing as no2 and apparently no2 is now forced induction haha. good stuff...
umm... the fuel already has mixtures of the nitro anyway so theres no need for nitrous injection. Depending in the viscosity of the fuel the remaining unburned fuel it just oil to lube the engine.
The fuel does not have nitrous oxide the fuel has nitro methane two completely different things. The nitrous oxide acts as an oxidizer and produces more power than the nitro methane alone can. Also viscosity has nothing to do what so ever with the nitro content. Viscosity refers to the thickness more or less of a liquid. The nitro methane, alcohol, and oil content is a product of mixture percentage.
Not on this guy, I shim my diffs which pretty much eliminates tearing them up, the trans was never an issue. Now my Ofna Picco .26 T Maxx is another story...
funny thing is my friend had a tmaxx 2.5 and upgraded to 3.3 and it dose wheelies like crazy but never bashed it or anything but his rear diff got killed by the power and all his tranny mounting bolts fell off lmao but i have a savage and i bash the shit out of it and nothing happened only slightly bent the axle thats it and some break problems from crappy steel disks
Yeah the maxx diffs from the factory have a VERY poorly set gear lash, what is sad is they are very aware of it yet they don't do anything about it. They need to switch to an 1/8th scale diff like the Savage has. My .26 Maxx had aluminum diff cups and an all RRP steel trans (internals were steel as well as the spur gear) my main problem with that monster is twisting my steel drive lines.
When the nitrous is injected it increases combustion chamber pressure thus also increasing exhaust pressure. This increased exhaust pressure increases fuel tank pressure which in turn supplies more fuel. During a wide open throttle run with nitrous the engine will see an increase in fuel by 64%
Can anybody help my savage wont stay on it will turn on and ill run it for a bit then it will shut off what do i need 2 do, its a brand new truck and it doesnt stay on.
Sounds like you are running lean, try turning your high speed needle out about 1 turn and go from there. Sounds like your engine is overheating which causes the engine to shut down either from vapor lock, or from a loss of compression due to the piston sleeve over expanding or both.
and to Mattbaugh nitrous oxide is not forced induction would you condier a air intake coller to be forcing air no it getting more oxygen atoms in there learn basic chemistry i have friends who don't know shit about cars i mean they don't even know if the car they are driving is a v6 v8 i6 i4 etc but they can figure out thats not forcing it in dip shit and if you don't believe it works don't buy any system using nos and when you get beaten by someone with it don't cry
um don't mean to chew off your head here but you said that there's no need to mod the engine for it. wouldn't you need to comp for the extra pressure put on the engine. i mean i have friends who blew there engines on full size cars because the engine couldn't take the excess pressure. like i said not trying to call you out you have done a great job with it was just currius if i was oblivius to something.
When an engine "blows" while using nitrous oxide 99% of the time it is due to a lean condition which basically causes the nitrous to burn holes in the pistons. So the short answer to your question is no there is no modification needed to run nitrous on these engines. Like I have said time and time again in the 4 years of experimentation we did before releasing this we never blew an engine with nitrous. I have yet to blow one with nitrous to this day.
That's brilliant! But if you own the patent, have done all the testing, and considering the amount of time and research invested, why do you not manufacture a kit for sale? Is it a question of diminishing returns, or liability? Just seems like if it's as safe and simple as your comments suggest, you'd have the market cornered. Just curious. Great job though!
First off thank you, I did produce and sell the kit for a number of years all over the world. However there was not enough money in the business to sustain a profitable company.
i have to agree with darknightotc...ppl r dumb... like fletcher101101 hes dumb some one who cant addmit there wrong and all the other ppl that trashed this video there just mad cause there to dumb to do any of this stuff to the rcs...o and btw tmaxx is he best!!!
Honestly of all the videos watched in the past year this has to the one with the most ignorant comments so far. I've got to give itsgr82bl8 a hand for having the patience to deal with these people. Nice RC!
I 100% agree with you...after reading your comment I decided to go back and read through the comments and to tell you the truth, it's just hilarious seeing all these people tell him he's doing something wrong when he obviously knows more about this than all of these dumbasses put together. Two thumbs up and a pat on the back to itsgr82bl8.
great song. but i was just wondering, did you do any modifications to the engine for this? and did you have any sort of fast moving air to cool the engine or did you not run it very long?
There is no need to modify the engine to run nitrous, if you look in the background you will see an air compressor we used that to keep air moving across the cooling fins of the head.
Any form of forced induction or nitrous system does not work in a 2 stroke engine, as the intake and exhaust ports are level on the liner, so they are both open at the same time. All you are basically doing is momentarily leaning out your engine as you are forcing in more oxygen and less fuel.
Nitrous oxide is not forced induction and clearly you can see it does work, by increasing oxygen content greatly. This does not lean out the engine, in fact during a wide open throttle nitrous run the fuel content is increased 64% due to increased exhaust pressure.
yeah it is forced induction and like he said all it is doing is leanin it out and if its getting more pressure that probly because the nitrous is running straight throught the engine and into the exhaust
it is not forced induction, the nitrous is injected at extremely low PSI otherwise it would have blown the air cleaner right off. When the nitrous is injected it causes a more rapid and complete burn of the fuel in the combustion chamber. This causes an increase in exhaust pressure which in turn increases fuel tank pressure. During out test runs we found a wide open throttle run with nitrous burns 64% more fuel than a non nitrous run. There is no lean condition.
well i wouldnt put any oil at all on me coolin fins it will attract dust and cause them to not cool as good. btw i if u put 1 strap either side it will stop it u dummy lol not hard, u cant tie knots very good then can u if it flys off while tied down
The truck was tied down on both sides front and back, it broke the 30 pound line when the nitrous was hit. The oil is so minuscule coming from the air compressor it doesn't even leave trace amounts. Thanks for the comments.
lol i hope u got a filter on that comprssor cuz loads of oil and stuff will the sprayed on the engine . why u delete my past comment, is it cuz u know i was right and u cudnt bear some1 better than u lol
''''17 years''''(or so u say) ever heard of tie down straps noob
The truck was tied down, with 30 pound test dacron, and I am well aware of what comes out of a compressor, which was only blowing on the COOLING FINS of the engine which has really nothing to do with the air going into the engine. I deleted your post because it was rude and did not contribute at all. Noob, no not even a little bit. By the way if you have loads of oil coming out of your compressor, ya might wanna look into it there is something wrong. A small amount of oil is normal (very smal)
However loads means you have a problem, how do I know you ask? Because I am an industrial mechanic and I deal with that kind of stuff on a daily basis.
on one more side note, the side to side shifting of the truck is caused by the tires ballooning unevenly because of the nitrous, tie it down all you want and it will still do it.
I love ignorant comments like yours, the truck is on rollers, the mass of the rollers combined with the load we put on the suspension is very close to the load it would see driving down the street. I have been in the industry for 17 years now, I am very well aware of what I am doing. The engine is just fine.
Nope, the compressor was used to keep the engine cool since the truck is not moving there is no air moving across the head to keep it cool. So we used compressed air blowing across the head to keep it from over heating.
What is funny is when I sent him a message requesting the data he collected during his experiments he never responded. I know it works simply because I have done it. Not only that but I have video to back it up.
Hmmmm, an r.c. car getting exercise on a treadmill. It can overheat, since there is not enough forward motion to keep the head cool. This activity should be illegal.
The car is getting plenty of cooling, if you notice there is an air compressor in the background. We setup a difuser air nozzle to spray the compressed air across the cooling fins on the head of the engine. Never once had a cooling problem, illegal give me a break.
pure and simple nitrous will not run on a rc car. nor will the supercharger people claim to sell. it just blows out the ports when piston is at full bottom rotation
With a supercharger you are correct, however because nitrous is not pressurizing the crank case it is simply pulled in with the fuel it does in fact work. Clearly watch the video that is nothing more than nitrous oxide. Have you tried it? No? I didn't think so I have run thousands of bottles of nitrous through my RC vehicles (some non RC too) and I can tell it you it does work plain and simple.
That is actually a test stand not a dyno, it is made using a section of conveyor. I am however working on a chassis dyno currently that will show actual horse power at the wheels. The nitrous kit is my own design we patented the nitrous kit, unfortunaly we are no longer producing the kit.
Thats really not true, we took two identical engines broke them both in on a bench under identical conditions. Took both engines apart measure the pistons and sleeves as well as bearing surfaces for a base number.
Then we ran 2 gallons of 20% fuel through both of them, on 1 engine we ran just fuel the other engine ran 2 tanks of nitrous per tank of fuel. After two gallons (about 60 tanks of fuel and 120 bottles of nitrous) we again tore the engines down and measured piston, sleeve, and bearing surfaces. We found no significant difference between the two engines.
yh but still your pushing the engine far beyond it was ever designed to do. I put a nitrous oxide kit on my petrol scooter, bought from boost bottle industries which crapped up my scooter.
I DID, but im telling U from MY point what happend with my experience of nos, IT WAS FUN................while is lasted. Do you inject before or after the carb?
The nitrous is injected into the carb, you probably ran your engine lean causing the damage. In this case the engine gets a 64% increase in fuel during the nitrous run.
you do know that rc car engeins hit 50000 rpms safely???? your scooter cant handle nirtos due to bore and stroke or another design problem .. only thing n20 will do is blow shit up if you dont know how to use it properly!!
We actually designed and patented our system about 2 years before RB did. We did work together a little bit to tune our nitrous system to thier superchargers.
Couldn't of made much of a difference.That t-maxx engine is already pushing close to it's maxx heat level and if you set needle it up to it's max performance then you can't push it anymore without overheating it way to easy.Just a bit pointless = since you own a t maxx,you gotta know that.....
Ahh an interesting fact about nitrous oxide is brought out by this very subject. Nitrous oxide causes an endothermic reaction when it is broken down into oxygen and nitrogen. Endothermic reactions actually absorb heat, thus when nitrous is run in an RC engine at wide open throttle we found engine temps to drop an average of 10 degrees F during 10 second runs.
Where is the Nitrous bottle? what size nozzle? where is the Solenoid? why are you talking shit? you do realise that you can't run a Nitro engine on Nitrous Oxide? how would you tune it? it would need to gradually inject more as the RPM's increase. Oh yeah your site doesn't exist either, someones telling porkie pies me thinks.
The nitrous bottle is located on top of the battery box right in front of the fuel tank. The bottles are a custom bottle we had produced it contains about 8 grams of liquid nitrous. The bottles are about the same size as a CO2 cartridge. This setup is different than what you have in a car, it does not use solenoids or nozzles. The nitrous bottle has a valve in it which we use a screw to actuate. Does not take much rotation to get that little valve to open.
This also acts like the nozzle as you can adjust how much the valve opens by adjusting the screw. This is also how you tune it, too much nitrous and the glow plug simply burns and shuts the engine down. The website is no longer up, we no longer offer these for sale. By the way you can run nitrous on these, nitrous is simply and oxidizer it allows a more rapid and complete combustion of the fuel in the combustion chamber. Check out my other videos you can see the nitrous setup better in those.
I am well aware of what nitrous oxide is, more spacifically it is two parts nitrogen and 1 part oxygen which is exactly what we are injecting into the RC engines. Thanks for the comment.
Really? Have you done testing on the engines with nitrous? I have, I ran two identicle engine through 5 gallons of fuel. One had nitrous on every tank the other did not. After we had ran the fuel through them we tore them down and mic'ed everything out and guess what, even after just over 200 tanks of nitrous there was not measureable difference betweeen the two engines.
yea well depends on amount of NOS running.but still fucked up your engine over time. doesnt matter if its a nitro car engine or a 4 cylinder for example. it will still fuck up your engine over time and performance. its proven. and the difference is. NITRO IS A FUEL. nitrous oxide is a gas.
Your right over time is will cause wear, so will changine out to a high performance air cleaner or anything else to increase performance. That is the trade off. I am well aware of the difference between nitrous oxide and nitro methane.
Buddy, NOS isnt a gas. NOS is a brand owned by Holley Performance. Stop saying NOS and start say "nitrous oxide," or at least "nitrous;" you sound like a douche bag.
sweet but i have a few questions if you would take the time to anser 1. how did you inject the nos 2. is it possible to mount a mini turbo ( maybe a blower but the blowers that ive seen wouldnt work at rc speeds ) 3. can the motors handle the extra heat for extended periods of time 4. were are these parts sold? ( web site or store) thnx and good work would like to see it doin a straight run
1.The nitrous is injected directly into the carb, however I have also injected it directly into the block via a small hole drilled into the case and a check ball to prevent back flow 2. I do not think the exhaust pressure is high enough on an RC to run a turbo, however there is a supercharger is being produced by RB Innovations. The supercharger works and it works well. However you will find tuning to be difficult a fuel consumption is through the roof.
sweet..a hobby shop owner i no told me smart tech got sued for stealing traxxas' design, thats y when i broke the bumper i used traxxas replacements..anyways idk y but it doesnt start anymore i get it to start for 5 seconds but the it shuts off after i stop priming it.i think the motor isnt getting anymore fuel...any suggestions?
The fuel it's burning is nitro, and your right it's not NOS. NOS is a company Nitrous Oxide Systems what I am injecting to cause the RPM's to suddenly jump is in fact nitrous oxide. Thanks for the comment.
Yes we have, I have some videos of it somewhere. It is extremely fast but it is difficult to see the difference the nitrous makes when it is on the road unless your actually there.
itsgr82bl8 you've got your nitro mixed up it's meth not oxi. nos wuld blow that car ski high. seems fast though. I have the cts myself breaking 90mph but now i want a truck
Sorry but I don't have anything mixed up. This is a nitro methane burning engine with nitrous oxide injection. This is a nitrous oxide kit that I designed and patented. Nitrous oxide does not blow the engine, in fact in the 4 years of testing we did before we went public with this we never blew a single engine. If you inject too much nitrous oxide into the engine the glow plug simply burns and shuts the engine down.
That indeed would give it a kick, the nitrous is more or less doing the same thing. nitrous oxide is 33% more oxygen than atmousphere. The nitrogen acts as a shock absober in the combustion chamber. So yes pure oxygen would give it more of a kick but with a much higher risk of engine damage, also I am not sure the glow plug would put up with the pure oxygen.
jevans is right, but doing this on road cars is not a good idea if you want to do anything other than go fast. There's a lesson to be learned there. Race your race car. Drive your ordinary car like a sane person. Do anything you want with our R/C car!
wsbill14224 6 months ago
@wsbill14224 You are mostly correct but not 100%, you get more fuel delivery during a nitrous oxide run in an RC car due to a sequence of events that takes place during a nitrous run. When the nitrous oxide breaks down in the combustion chamber the added oxygen causes a more rapid and complete burn of the fuel, this in turn increases combustion chamber pressure (hence more power) the increased combustion chamber pressure causes higher pressure in the exhaust system.
itsgr82bl8 5 months ago
Higher exhaust pressure pressurizes the fuel tank to a higher level than normal which increases fuel flow. With my nitrous system I saw a 64% increase in fuel flow during a wide open throttle nitrous run.
itsgr82bl8 5 months ago
next up, dyno testing? :)
dwnrety1 9 months ago
@dwnrety1 We are in the process of building a dyno
itsgr82bl8 8 months ago
Dam, there nitro cars and trucks mostly are gunna need a bigger fuel tank if the nitro fuel is burned 64% faster than normal. might as well spend the cash you'd be spending on nitro fuel, on a new nitro engine that goes as fast as it would if you had nitrous, or the closest thing
jugglesandmrmathess 1 year ago
@jugglesandmrmathess it is only burning more fuel during nitrous oxide runs, when the nitrous is not being injected fuel consumption is normal.
itsgr82bl8 8 months ago
you can see the tires balloon as the nitrous comes in ( as the throttle is fully applied )
ginnnga 1 year ago
If you dont know what you are talking about, please reframe from talking and making an idiot out of yourself- - - thanks. Bad ass video btw
kyledose 1 year ago
thats sick!
ben187059 1 year ago
wow its funny how little people know thinking that the nitro in the gas is actualy nitrous nice car man
malikkillz 1 year ago
Thats really trick. Wow good job making it. Any vids of this actually driving?
judgegixxer 1 year ago
I honestly didn't know nitrous oxide was that effective on these engines. Good job and great explanations.
azonicone 1 year ago
@jevans3d Since you install them for a living you should know the power from Nitrous being around 36% pure oxygen. The air we breathe, the same air that gets sucked into an engine is only about 21% pure oxygen. Just like itsgr82bl8 said, you're basically injecting more oxygen into the chamber. More oxygen and more fuel = more power. Its not how cold the air is.
sneakster1978 2 years ago
actually.. i know a group by me that does professional performance to these engines and since its in a way a diesel engine.. ive seen some 100+mph rc's on propane and small vortec and rooter chargers also.. these kits are THOUSANDS tho haha
great video.. i like the testing on the rollers
hsvkidusa 2 years ago
Actually, the nitrous oxide is cold so it condenses the air entering the engine, denser air means more oxegen and fuel in th emix so more power... thats how its works. I fit them to real cars for a living....
jevans3d 2 years ago
Yes nitrous oxide is cold, and yes that does increase horse power however that is not where the majority of the increase comes in. For every 10 degrees you lower intake temp you pick up about 1% in horse power. The major increase comes from the added oxygen you get from the nitrous oxide entering the combustion chamber and oxidizing or burning the fuel more rapidly. See my video for a demonstration. Nitrous oxide through a cigarette.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago 14
It was truly a treat to read the comments on this, and highly entertaining that you have the knowledge to shut up the idiots that cant help but make a stupid uneducated comment. Great video by the way!
vandenking 2 years ago 2
hey people what other evidence do you need other than when he shot the nitrous it made the tires go faster and in doing that would have made the truck go faster if it were on the ground. So all scientific explanations aside, see it with your eyes it did make a difference, weather or not you think it did, would, should or could have, it did.
myshihtzudontstink 2 years ago
Lol it seems like no one knows what the hell they're talking about in these comments LOL. Nitro is now apparently the same thing as no2 and apparently no2 is now forced induction haha. good stuff...
RDubya146 2 years ago
@RDubya146 nitrous is N2O not NO2. 2 different animals all together.
Gmc42082 1 year ago
@RDubya146
LOL
THCmuzicalmasta 1 year ago
umm... the fuel already has mixtures of the nitro anyway so theres no need for nitrous injection. Depending in the viscosity of the fuel the remaining unburned fuel it just oil to lube the engine.
HeMzY01 2 years ago
The fuel does not have nitrous oxide the fuel has nitro methane two completely different things. The nitrous oxide acts as an oxidizer and produces more power than the nitro methane alone can. Also viscosity has nothing to do what so ever with the nitro content. Viscosity refers to the thickness more or less of a liquid. The nitro methane, alcohol, and oil content is a product of mixture percentage.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago 12
I'm all for nitrous I run it in my real car. But the only thing is. Is how do you keep these engines from running to lean?
SUSPECT29 2 years ago
Please read through the comments, this question has been answered several times.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
i bet your diffs broke a few teeth on the gears or tranny
30GB 2 years ago
Not on this guy, I shim my diffs which pretty much eliminates tearing them up, the trans was never an issue. Now my Ofna Picco .26 T Maxx is another story...
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
funny thing is my friend had a tmaxx 2.5 and upgraded to 3.3 and it dose wheelies like crazy but never bashed it or anything but his rear diff got killed by the power and all his tranny mounting bolts fell off lmao but i have a savage and i bash the shit out of it and nothing happened only slightly bent the axle thats it and some break problems from crappy steel disks
30GB 2 years ago
Yeah the maxx diffs from the factory have a VERY poorly set gear lash, what is sad is they are very aware of it yet they don't do anything about it. They need to switch to an 1/8th scale diff like the Savage has. My .26 Maxx had aluminum diff cups and an all RRP steel trans (internals were steel as well as the spur gear) my main problem with that monster is twisting my steel drive lines.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
how do you get the extra fuel in there when the nitrous is injected?
dougdweeb1 2 years ago
When the nitrous is injected it increases combustion chamber pressure thus also increasing exhaust pressure. This increased exhaust pressure increases fuel tank pressure which in turn supplies more fuel. During a wide open throttle run with nitrous the engine will see an increase in fuel by 64%
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
Can anybody help my savage wont stay on it will turn on and ill run it for a bit then it will shut off what do i need 2 do, its a brand new truck and it doesnt stay on.
the1andonlyjhood 2 years ago
Sounds like you are running lean, try turning your high speed needle out about 1 turn and go from there. Sounds like your engine is overheating which causes the engine to shut down either from vapor lock, or from a loss of compression due to the piston sleeve over expanding or both.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
i know nothin about this shit anyway where did u get the rollin road?
HammieTheHamster94 2 years ago
We built the test stand
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
any nitro car can bloon up the tires went your at full speed
mccoolmatt55 2 years ago
Yes they do, but not as quickly as they do when your running nitrous.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago
ha thats pretty cool better get some 100 pound test line next time.
joshnordstromwestmon 3 years ago
Tainted Love
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
and to Mattbaugh nitrous oxide is not forced induction would you condier a air intake coller to be forcing air no it getting more oxygen atoms in there learn basic chemistry i have friends who don't know shit about cars i mean they don't even know if the car they are driving is a v6 v8 i6 i4 etc but they can figure out thats not forcing it in dip shit and if you don't believe it works don't buy any system using nos and when you get beaten by someone with it don't cry
556210 3 years ago
um don't mean to chew off your head here but you said that there's no need to mod the engine for it. wouldn't you need to comp for the extra pressure put on the engine. i mean i have friends who blew there engines on full size cars because the engine couldn't take the excess pressure. like i said not trying to call you out you have done a great job with it was just currius if i was oblivius to something.
556210 3 years ago
When an engine "blows" while using nitrous oxide 99% of the time it is due to a lean condition which basically causes the nitrous to burn holes in the pistons. So the short answer to your question is no there is no modification needed to run nitrous on these engines. Like I have said time and time again in the 4 years of experimentation we did before releasing this we never blew an engine with nitrous. I have yet to blow one with nitrous to this day.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
i have a nitro xtm mammoth and when i hit the gas the front wheels only turn when it is a 4x4 rc truck whats wrong im confused i need help
goneriden9543 3 years ago
Sounds to me like you have 1 of 2 problems either your center diff is toast or your rear diff is toast (this is the more likely one)
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
That's brilliant! But if you own the patent, have done all the testing, and considering the amount of time and research invested, why do you not manufacture a kit for sale? Is it a question of diminishing returns, or liability? Just seems like if it's as safe and simple as your comments suggest, you'd have the market cornered. Just curious. Great job though!
Polar5g 3 years ago
First off thank you, I did produce and sell the kit for a number of years all over the world. However there was not enough money in the business to sustain a profitable company.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
i have to agree with darknightotc...ppl r dumb... like fletcher101101 hes dumb some one who cant addmit there wrong and all the other ppl that trashed this video there just mad cause there to dumb to do any of this stuff to the rcs...o and btw tmaxx is he best!!!
daywalker688 3 years ago
Honestly of all the videos watched in the past year this has to the one with the most ignorant comments so far. I've got to give itsgr82bl8 a hand for having the patience to deal with these people. Nice RC!
DarknightOTC 3 years ago
Thank you very much DarknightOTC, I appreciate the comment!
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
I 100% agree with you...after reading your comment I decided to go back and read through the comments and to tell you the truth, it's just hilarious seeing all these people tell him he's doing something wrong when he obviously knows more about this than all of these dumbasses put together. Two thumbs up and a pat on the back to itsgr82bl8.
brettae89 3 years ago
great song. but i was just wondering, did you do any modifications to the engine for this? and did you have any sort of fast moving air to cool the engine or did you not run it very long?
threextoedxsloth 3 years ago
There is no need to modify the engine to run nitrous, if you look in the background you will see an air compressor we used that to keep air moving across the cooling fins of the head.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
thats why you have your car strapped down so it doesnt go flying off
Tyler28125 3 years ago
The Maxx was tied down, it broke the 50 pound test line we were using to anchor it.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Any form of forced induction or nitrous system does not work in a 2 stroke engine, as the intake and exhaust ports are level on the liner, so they are both open at the same time. All you are basically doing is momentarily leaning out your engine as you are forcing in more oxygen and less fuel.
Mattbaugh 3 years ago
Nitrous oxide is not forced induction and clearly you can see it does work, by increasing oxygen content greatly. This does not lean out the engine, in fact during a wide open throttle nitrous run the fuel content is increased 64% due to increased exhaust pressure.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Is that 64% compared to at idle?
Mattbaugh 3 years ago
No that would be 64% as compared to a wide open throttle run without nitrous.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
How do you conduct these tests? What measuring equipment do you use?
Mattbaugh 3 years ago
all of this was already covered, read through the previous comments
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
yeah it is forced induction and like he said all it is doing is leanin it out and if its getting more pressure that probly because the nitrous is running straight throught the engine and into the exhaust
Tyler28125 2 years ago
it is not forced induction, the nitrous is injected at extremely low PSI otherwise it would have blown the air cleaner right off. When the nitrous is injected it causes a more rapid and complete burn of the fuel in the combustion chamber. This causes an increase in exhaust pressure which in turn increases fuel tank pressure. During out test runs we found a wide open throttle run with nitrous burns 64% more fuel than a non nitrous run. There is no lean condition.
itsgr82bl8 2 years ago 3
spot on explanation!
its getting so old ppl how argue and don't actually understand the principles.
(ie. nitous is chemically enriching, not forced induction)
good job itsag8!!!
timbr33 2 years ago 17
ive seen lots of 2 stroke snowmobiles run nitrous with no problems at all
mageac 3 years ago
k. yw i would use cord not fishin line easyer to tie and work with
fletcher101101 3 years ago
This isn't exactly fishing line, Dacron is similar to Kevlar.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
well i wouldnt put any oil at all on me coolin fins it will attract dust and cause them to not cool as good. btw i if u put 1 strap either side it will stop it u dummy lol not hard, u cant tie knots very good then can u if it flys off while tied down
fletcher101101 3 years ago
The truck was tied down on both sides front and back, it broke the 30 pound line when the nitrous was hit. The oil is so minuscule coming from the air compressor it doesn't even leave trace amounts. Thanks for the comments.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
lol i hope u got a filter on that comprssor cuz loads of oil and stuff will the sprayed on the engine . why u delete my past comment, is it cuz u know i was right and u cudnt bear some1 better than u lol
''''17 years''''(or so u say) ever heard of tie down straps noob
fletcher101101 3 years ago
The truck was tied down, with 30 pound test dacron, and I am well aware of what comes out of a compressor, which was only blowing on the COOLING FINS of the engine which has really nothing to do with the air going into the engine. I deleted your post because it was rude and did not contribute at all. Noob, no not even a little bit. By the way if you have loads of oil coming out of your compressor, ya might wanna look into it there is something wrong. A small amount of oil is normal (very smal)
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
However loads means you have a problem, how do I know you ask? Because I am an industrial mechanic and I deal with that kind of stuff on a daily basis.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
on one more side note, the side to side shifting of the truck is caused by the tires ballooning unevenly because of the nitrous, tie it down all you want and it will still do it.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
do you want to blow up your freacking engine or something full throttle wile the car is not moving ass
neluz6 3 years ago
I love ignorant comments like yours, the truck is on rollers, the mass of the rollers combined with the load we put on the suspension is very close to the load it would see driving down the street. I have been in the industry for 17 years now, I am very well aware of what I am doing. The engine is just fine.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Is that a dynometer? pretty cool man..
upaulyo 3 years ago
No that is actually a tuning stand, we are however developing a chassis dyno.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
t-maxx?
cowplop4587 3 years ago
Yup it is in fact a T Maxx
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Just compressor
subarussss 3 years ago
Nope, the compressor was used to keep the engine cool since the truck is not moving there is no air moving across the head to keep it cool. So we used compressed air blowing across the head to keep it from over heating.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Nice nice, why wouldn't Nitrous work on an RC car? Do the measurements and the proportions and it should all run fine, doubters...so annoying.
DRCsyntax 3 years ago
What is funny is when I sent him a message requesting the data he collected during his experiments he never responded. I know it works simply because I have done it. Not only that but I have video to back it up.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Hmmmm, an r.c. car getting exercise on a treadmill. It can overheat, since there is not enough forward motion to keep the head cool. This activity should be illegal.
Helivz 3 years ago
The car is getting plenty of cooling, if you notice there is an air compressor in the background. We setup a difuser air nozzle to spray the compressed air across the cooling fins on the head of the engine. Never once had a cooling problem, illegal give me a break.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Illegal? Yes, noise pollution. LOL, just kidding.
Helivz 3 years ago
Marilyn Manson!!! Woot XD
EmoDog666 3 years ago 3
pure and simple nitrous will not run on a rc car. nor will the supercharger people claim to sell. it just blows out the ports when piston is at full bottom rotation
anthony200202 3 years ago
With a supercharger you are correct, however because nitrous is not pressurizing the crank case it is simply pulled in with the fuel it does in fact work. Clearly watch the video that is nothing more than nitrous oxide. Have you tried it? No? I didn't think so I have run thousands of bottles of nitrous through my RC vehicles (some non RC too) and I can tell it you it does work plain and simple.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
it acctully has gears wow
bradhogan123 3 years ago
it actually has gears?
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
yea it has to be the only rc car i have ever seen with gears its really cool
bradhogan123 3 years ago
Oh you mean the way it shifts from 1st to 2nd?
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
yea its cool man
bradhogan123 3 years ago
Thanks, that is actually a stock transmission on the Traxxas T Maxx
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
what is the name of the song ?
Re4dt 3 years ago
That would be Tainted Love
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
can u tell me how u built your dyno and what a nitro kit is i want both xD that looks like a powerful lil truck u got there !
wazzzupdude 3 years ago
That is actually a test stand not a dyno, it is made using a section of conveyor. I am however working on a chassis dyno currently that will show actual horse power at the wheels. The nitrous kit is my own design we patented the nitrous kit, unfortunaly we are no longer producing the kit.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Thats really not true, we took two identical engines broke them both in on a bench under identical conditions. Took both engines apart measure the pistons and sleeves as well as bearing surfaces for a base number.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Then we ran 2 gallons of 20% fuel through both of them, on 1 engine we ran just fuel the other engine ran 2 tanks of nitrous per tank of fuel. After two gallons (about 60 tanks of fuel and 120 bottles of nitrous) we again tore the engines down and measured piston, sleeve, and bearing surfaces. We found no significant difference between the two engines.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
yh but still your pushing the engine far beyond it was ever designed to do. I put a nitrous oxide kit on my petrol scooter, bought from boost bottle industries which crapped up my scooter.
crazystufffff 3 years ago
Did you not read any of the above???
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
I DID, but im telling U from MY point what happend with my experience of nos, IT WAS FUN................while is lasted. Do you inject before or after the carb?
crazystufffff 3 years ago
The nitrous is injected into the carb, you probably ran your engine lean causing the damage. In this case the engine gets a 64% increase in fuel during the nitrous run.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
you do know that rc car engeins hit 50000 rpms safely???? your scooter cant handle nirtos due to bore and stroke or another design problem .. only thing n20 will do is blow shit up if you dont know how to use it properly!!
bradlee101 3 years ago
generally nitrous won't blow anything up, it begins burning metal inside the engine when there is not enough fuel injected with it.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
were you running on all nitrous or did you run on nitro then inject the nitrous?
mulliken34 3 years ago
You cannot run just nitrous, nitrous contains no fuel. The engine is run off nitro fuel and nitrous oxide.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
where do you keep the nitrous when running the truck
kickers15l5 3 years ago
The nitrous is contained in a small CO2 sized bottle.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
did you use something from rb innovations? does it use the same technology?
wawcoldfire 3 years ago
We actually designed and patented our system about 2 years before RB did. We did work together a little bit to tune our nitrous system to thier superchargers.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Couldn't of made much of a difference.That t-maxx engine is already pushing close to it's maxx heat level and if you set needle it up to it's max performance then you can't push it anymore without overheating it way to easy.Just a bit pointless = since you own a t maxx,you gotta know that.....
suckmeoffbitch 3 years ago
Ahh an interesting fact about nitrous oxide is brought out by this very subject. Nitrous oxide causes an endothermic reaction when it is broken down into oxygen and nitrogen. Endothermic reactions actually absorb heat, thus when nitrous is run in an RC engine at wide open throttle we found engine temps to drop an average of 10 degrees F during 10 second runs.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Beast. Nice job.
boyint 3 years ago
what cand of truck is it
Roder222 3 years ago
That is a Traxxas T Maxx
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
No worries
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
hstrev...... u just got rapped
Jambafromhell 3 years ago
Where is the Nitrous bottle? what size nozzle? where is the Solenoid? why are you talking shit? you do realise that you can't run a Nitro engine on Nitrous Oxide? how would you tune it? it would need to gradually inject more as the RPM's increase. Oh yeah your site doesn't exist either, someones telling porkie pies me thinks.
hsvtrev 3 years ago 3
The nitrous bottle is located on top of the battery box right in front of the fuel tank. The bottles are a custom bottle we had produced it contains about 8 grams of liquid nitrous. The bottles are about the same size as a CO2 cartridge. This setup is different than what you have in a car, it does not use solenoids or nozzles. The nitrous bottle has a valve in it which we use a screw to actuate. Does not take much rotation to get that little valve to open.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
This also acts like the nozzle as you can adjust how much the valve opens by adjusting the screw. This is also how you tune it, too much nitrous and the glow plug simply burns and shuts the engine down. The website is no longer up, we no longer offer these for sale. By the way you can run nitrous on these, nitrous is simply and oxidizer it allows a more rapid and complete combustion of the fuel in the combustion chamber. Check out my other videos you can see the nitrous setup better in those.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
umm actually nirto cars run on a mixture of alcohol nitrous oxide and oil.
cowplop4587 3 years ago
Close but not exactly correct, nitro cars run on a mixture of alcohol, nitro methan, and a blend of oils. That is actually a pretty common mix up.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
sorry i ment methane i waz reading the title when i waz typing and got messed up
cowplop4587 3 years ago
Not a problem
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
try nitro methane jackass, nitrous oxide is a gas
Mrx1080 3 years ago
I am well aware of what nitrous oxide is, more spacifically it is two parts nitrogen and 1 part oxygen which is exactly what we are injecting into the RC engines. Thanks for the comment.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Mrx you're an asshole.
IonicBullet 3 years ago 3
I wouldn't say that, I would say he is just ignorant.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
what's the song nam? ive heard it before and i love it.
invertmini1234 3 years ago
That is Tainted Love by Manson
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Great!
Dragtime 3 years ago
Where could i get that nos kit?I want it for my jato.How much faster will it go?
rcairplane1222 3 years ago
I currently am not selling my nitrous oxide kits, sorry.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
fuck that they fuck up your engine. want to spend over 100 dollars in repair? didnt think so...
ultracomp2 3 years ago
Really? Have you done testing on the engines with nitrous? I have, I ran two identicle engine through 5 gallons of fuel. One had nitrous on every tank the other did not. After we had ran the fuel through them we tore them down and mic'ed everything out and guess what, even after just over 200 tanks of nitrous there was not measureable difference betweeen the two engines.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
yea well depends on amount of NOS running.but still fucked up your engine over time. doesnt matter if its a nitro car engine or a 4 cylinder for example. it will still fuck up your engine over time and performance. its proven. and the difference is. NITRO IS A FUEL. nitrous oxide is a gas.
ultracomp2 3 years ago
Your right over time is will cause wear, so will changine out to a high performance air cleaner or anything else to increase performance. That is the trade off. I am well aware of the difference between nitrous oxide and nitro methane.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
Buddy, NOS isnt a gas. NOS is a brand owned by Holley Performance. Stop saying NOS and start say "nitrous oxide," or at least "nitrous;" you sound like a douche bag.
LovesToDrift 3 years ago 2
Show me where I have refered to my nitrous system as NOS, I am well away NOS is Nitrous Oxide Systems.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
How well would this work on a jato 3.3... maybe it would hit 100mph+
Glitchunlocked 3 years ago
It would work extremely well, 100 MPH I suppose could be possible with the right gearing.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
sweet but i have a few questions if you would take the time to anser 1. how did you inject the nos 2. is it possible to mount a mini turbo ( maybe a blower but the blowers that ive seen wouldnt work at rc speeds ) 3. can the motors handle the extra heat for extended periods of time 4. were are these parts sold? ( web site or store) thnx and good work would like to see it doin a straight run
sarolikia 3 years ago
1.The nitrous is injected directly into the carb, however I have also injected it directly into the block via a small hole drilled into the case and a check ball to prevent back flow 2. I do not think the exhaust pressure is high enough on an RC to run a turbo, however there is a supercharger is being produced by RB Innovations. The supercharger works and it works well. However you will find tuning to be difficult a fuel consumption is through the roof.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
I don't understand if it's radio controlled it's electric, so how is the nitro used? Or are you using a gas engine?
Simulationcity 3 years ago
This is a gas powered RC car.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
sweet..a hobby shop owner i no told me smart tech got sued for stealing traxxas' design, thats y when i broke the bumper i used traxxas replacements..anyways idk y but it doesnt start anymore i get it to start for 5 seconds but the it shuts off after i stop priming it.i think the motor isnt getting anymore fuel...any suggestions?
bostonblizzards 3 years ago
Sent ya a message
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
is that a smart tech truck cuz that looks like the one i have
bostonblizzards 3 years ago
Nope, that is a Traxxas T Maxx
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
FUCKKING SICK....
TeReNo223 3 years ago 2
ahah love the rc car dyno!!!
bigmandood 3 years ago
actually that is just a test stand, however I am working on an actualy chassis dyno for RC
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
thats nitro, not nos.
repete1101 3 years ago
The fuel it's burning is nitro, and your right it's not NOS. NOS is a company Nitrous Oxide Systems what I am injecting to cause the RPM's to suddenly jump is in fact nitrous oxide. Thanks for the comment.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
isnt ther other tings in it like alcohal
ducejuice1 3 years ago
Yes the fuel contains nitromethane, synthetic oil, alcohol and some other goodies.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
ummm nitrous
villinousone83 3 years ago
ummmm, yeah :rolleyes:
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
ummmmm yeah its called a nitro car prob. running 20% or 15% i would guess
bloodbcult 3 years ago
Yup, it's 20% nitro fuel with a shot of 100% pure nitrous oxide.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
thats a realy nice car how did u hook up the nitrous to it?
bloodbcult 3 years ago
I designed a complete nitrous oxide system for the car.
itsgr82bl8 3 years ago
holy shit son that thing must hall ass
crazy vid 5 stars
villinousone83 4 years ago
omg! they have a little dyno for the rc car!! how cool!!
italia109 4 years ago 2
Actually that is just a test stand, however we are working on a chassis dyno.
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
lol holy crap that thing would fly.. have u tried it on the road?
cheerupemokidz 4 years ago
Yes we have, I have some videos of it somewhere. It is extremely fast but it is difficult to see the difference the nitrous makes when it is on the road unless your actually there.
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
haha it jumped off the tracks thats awesome!
randyrhoads6 4 years ago
Yeah, and it was tied down
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
itsgr82bl8 you've got your nitro mixed up it's meth not oxi. nos wuld blow that car ski high. seems fast though. I have the cts myself breaking 90mph but now i want a truck
Gattlin83 4 years ago
Sorry but I don't have anything mixed up. This is a nitro methane burning engine with nitrous oxide injection. This is a nitrous oxide kit that I designed and patented. Nitrous oxide does not blow the engine, in fact in the 4 years of testing we did before we went public with this we never blew a single engine. If you inject too much nitrous oxide into the engine the glow plug simply burns and shuts the engine down.
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
dont you just hate it when people try to corecct you. just so you know rbinnovations makes a nitrous kit already.
Louie2994 4 years ago 3
yes they do, however I produced mine years before they did. You can look up the patent if you really want proof of it.
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
Want some real power, run an oxygen injection into the carb, run it nice and rich, and that sucker will rip. Btw nice tmax.
x65535x 4 years ago
That indeed would give it a kick, the nitrous is more or less doing the same thing. nitrous oxide is 33% more oxygen than atmousphere. The nitrogen acts as a shock absober in the combustion chamber. So yes pure oxygen would give it more of a kick but with a much higher risk of engine damage, also I am not sure the glow plug would put up with the pure oxygen.
itsgr82bl8 4 years ago
oooooh fun
diseaseddragonfly 4 years ago
where did you Get that dyno
that thing is awesome
dietcoke3396 4 years ago