Fox News Reporter's Idiotic Take on Lincoln

[ptbwf]

Hey Cenk, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN OBAMA COMPARED HIMSELF TO LINCOLN IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF HIS PRESIDENCY?

That is what I thought, MSNBC hack.

These TYT guys don't even try...that is embarrassing...embarrassing.

[tinottt1]

@ptbwf lol

[tinottt1]

@ptbwf btw, I'm am laughing at you, not with you.

[ptbwf]

@tinottt1

of course, because you are an uneducated drone who has no real thoughts of your own so you must type things like 'LOL' and then follow it up with this classic example of knownothingism because my post brought up a point that kind of rips Cenk apart on this particular episode.

[tinottt1]

@ptbwf LOL. Yeah that's it. Keep telling yourself that little lady. Still laughing at you and not with you.

[ptbwf]

@tinottt1

and I still couldn't care less, you are kind of a nobody.

[tinottt1]

@ptbwf Apparently you care enough to keep writing me back, "Lamont you big dummy!" lol

[Daisy4Loka]

Really Cenk, making fun of Brent Baier? Fuck you Cenk! Brent along with Shepard Smith are the only non-bias guys at FOX you fucking retard!

[Lavos2007]

@Daisy4Loka i dont beleive that for a second ,in fact there is ZERO news stations on national TV today in america that ARENT biased, most news today you hear on TV has been verbally twisted and bent by the news media to support their own goals rather than tell the truth, todays news shows arent deserving of the title "news" cus their a bunch of dipshits that would rather lie/twist words to gain your money, ratings and views rather than tell you the truth which wouldnt benefit them at all

[TheParanormalBoard]

Lincoln = Left-Wing

Dubya = Right-Wing

Lincoln /=/ Dubya

[merman08]

fail he said the country hated lincoln when he left office (he didn't leave office he got killed)

[S0k0s]

"What are you, a fucking moron?"

Ah, classic.

[don222able]

That is worng. The people at Foxnews man. This is horrid.

[robhex]

bush will known as a fool and a corporate puppet. That's how history will view him.

[justinbushaw]

really? c'mon man...really? your pathetic ! really? and whats with the way he says embarassing at the end? really? c'mon man...your a fool

[jabbawhojumps]

@justinbushaw you're*

[KangaKucha]

its even better because linclon was at his hiughest popularity ever when he got shot, because the war ended literally a week or so before.

[LouBreesiana]

"What are you a fucking moron." ROFLMFAO Funny as shit

[bigfilmhat]

Lincoln was re-elected by a landslide in Nov 1864 (northern states only). Shot, I think, in April 1865. So he won a big re-election and won a war four months later. Had had to be pretty popular.

[sn53anon]

Lincoln: Civil War. 600K dead. The country hated him. Yet history's judgement is that he was a very good president. And GWB says he will let historians judge his presidency. He is wise to let it go and move on. I believe history will judge him very well for prosecuting the war against Islamic terrorism. And yet he expanded the role and reach of the Federal government. Bad move, in my opinion.

[KangaKucha]

i know i shouldn't out of respect for linclon, but i can't help bu piss myself laughing at this clip for its ignorance. how do these people not know this key firgure in american history.

they are like, oh he left office, i;m like year, with an extra hole in his head you fools! lol

[KangaKucha]

and for the record, back in linclon's time, the republican party was the liberal party, and the democracts the consevative. I really wish it was still like that, make more sense that way red vs. blue wise.

only different being in this case, its progressive social democracts vs. moderate "liberal" consevatives instead of right wing neocons/libetarians vs. center right "liberals" with a few progessives.

[KangaKucha]

um........ which linclon are we talking about? its almost like they are talking about it in a what if history way where linclon didn't win a second term.

[KangaKucha]

@KangaKucha cenk also should mension that the civil war, well now do get me wrong, the casaritties for afganistand and iraq are high, togerther i believe it's more than 1,000 and growing, coult be more than 10,000 when both wars r all over. but the civil war, depedening if you count both the north and south togerther, it was 600,000 in 4 years, far less time than either war. Totally different wars then and now. bad conparasion.

[KangaKucha]

@KangaKucha in depth or in death?

[Docworsen1]

No he said when Lincoln WAS leaving office in a preconceptionalization, sure but he didn't get that chance because of his assasination. It wasn't expressed e.g. he was hated after he left office. Therefore, how did the people react and feel about Lincoln after his assasination and therefore subsequent termination of office?

[adronias]

Cenk "what are you, a fucking moron?" hilarious!

[lobsterboy455]

Brett, LIncoln leaving office?

I thought Lincoln was murdered.

Huh?!?

[alexfanx]

Lincoln wasn't popular in South, remember. His death probably boosted his popularity.

[therepublicanknight]

1:47 that is so funny that completely caught me of guard.

Type in McCains brain its so funny.

[johnscck]

Really? Lincoln wasn't unpopular? Then why the fuck did half of the country seceed? Booth was a hero to many people when he assasinated Lincoln. That's why it took so long to catch him. people were helping him hide. Granted, most of the people who hated him were Confederates and racists, but he was not very popular. I'm not saying Bush could ever come close to Lincolns legacy. I'm sure if he was assasinated though, it would have given him a big boost. Just look at Kennedy.

[wiley666]

Lincoln was VERY unpopular when he was assasinated. Stop reading you govt. mandated history books and go search for the truth. I can't believe that TYT passes for journalism or as a news source...it's just as, if not more laughable than FOX and MSNBC.

[MissNevada08]

George W. Bush comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln? PRICELESS!

[Shup2the]

Lmao that was awesome, I never expect FUCKING to come out of these guys mouths but thats what made it all the more powerful. Forreal though when he said "when he left office" i was like uhh....did you skip 4th-12th grade? Was Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech his Gettysburg address?

[handle342618]

Hey you, the host of TYt, you're hilarious! [In a good way!] Not only are you smart, but your hilarious mockery of Bush's idiocy is really reminiscent of Belushi when he gets excited.

Your keenness in mocking bush is fantastic. Keep it up.

[riversideslim]

Baer is right. This video is idiotic. Obama does compare himself to Lincoln. He was my U.S. Senator and he was a disaster for Illinois. He came up through Chicago's incredibly corrupt political machine where no honest man can thrive. As people begin to see that Obama wants the government to take over everything, hopefully they will wise up. Folks like the idiot who made this video have been duped. It's time to stop worshipping Obama and wake up.

[traxie6]

Obama was my Senator too...please give examples...specific examples to your blanket statement...until then, I can or can not agree with you. Seriously, I would like to know how this man was a disaster for Illinois....and please refer to his direct political actions. I am willing to listen.

[bighitter42]

He was VERY similar to Lincoln. Lincoln started an immoral war, enabled the slaughter of 650,000 Americans, suspended habeas corpus, arrested and imprisoned dissenting journalists and politicians, used mass starvation, trampled the constitution, and to top it off, wasn't even in favor of the thing that most people credit him with(freeing slaves.)

The idol worship that surrounds Lincoln is astounding. 650,000 lives lost...countless others ruined.  The fuckup Bush is great comparatively.

[GstateBALLER925]

well to be fair, baier said when lincoln was "leaving office", not "left office".

[GstateBALLER925]

"what are you a fucking moron?"

hilarious... the way he said that just sounded so funny.

[Caribman75]

FOX will spin anything.

[jimistreets]

I guess you prefer the spin of MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, NYT, WaPost, LATimes etc. etc....Liberals had a monopoly on the news for sooo long that when a network comes along that has a different take it induces spasms of hatred from those news sources and their mindless minions...Generally speaking, Fox doesn't try to hide the fact that they are conservative. What is sad is that the aforementioned news outlets are the ones that claim to be the most balanced...

[pamReagan]

Like Fox "news" jimistreets lies that the Artic Ice sheet is growing. NASA's data indicates it's been shrinking for the last 30 years. Has nothing to do with your paranoid conspiracy about MOST of the media. Who are your learned sources, jimistreets, Fox "news"?...

"Fox doesn't try to hide the fact that they are conservative. "

"Moderators" at Fox lie every day "fair & balanced. When challenged about conservative "spin" Mygen Kelly screamed over and over "You know we're fair & balanced" Lies.

[jimistreets]

According to the National Snow and Ice Data center, it turns out that they underreported the size of the ice sheet by193,000 square miles. The Greenland "ice melt' is a natural summertime occurrance. Glaciers are GROWING in Norway, the Himalayas, Canada. Indeed, Arctic Sea ice is GROWING at the fastest rate in recorded history due to abnormally COLD weather! If 'global warming' isn't caused by mankind, then why all the Chicken Little whining about how we MUST change before its too late?!

[Liproll]

*sincerely

[Liproll]

I look at the picture of the guy. And I listen to him talk.

The first thing that comes to mind? Honestly, cincerely?

I´m listening to a 5-year-old.

[BobReidy]

Read some civil war history idiot.Bush and linocln have many parrelles.lincoln was unpopular when he was in office.he had a whole file in his desk of death threats.northern democrats hated his guts even after he died.ever here of horace greeley of samuel tilden.

[sebastian577]

LOL, suuure, what great and "many" parrelles you named. A president being unpopular and getting death threats? lmao, then we need to put every president in that parrell. There is no comparison with the war in Iraq and the Civil War or with Bush and Lincoln. Read some fucking history man, and stop idolizing a fool like Bush that has run this country so far down in the shit. Not even the conservatives approve of him anymore, he's just a joke.

[XxApocalyptaXx]

I love you guys. Keep it up.

[caveatemptor0313]

your commentator is an idiot!!! Embarrassing is what your show is...

[GstateBALLER925]

go watch fox news and its even more embarrassing.

[Dallas767]

Bret Baire, the same guy at Fox (Fixed) "news" who snarled about "Global Warming" while citing a few nights of "colder temps". So typical of Fox "news", who lies that it's "fair & balanced" but hires Reagan's Oliver North & Bush's Karl Rove.

1.) Warming theory PREDICTS both COLDER & WARMER imbalances..

2.) Thousands of scientist confirmed global warming.

3.) NASA confirmed Greenland & Arctic ice sheets are shrinking.

4.) Glacier National Park is down from about 150 glaciers in 1910 to 27 now.

[jimistreets]

1.) Average temperatures have decreased in the last 10 years.

2.) Thousands of scientists (including climatologists and meteorologists) dispute man-made global warming.

3.) Current measurements of the Arctic ice sheet indicate it is GROWING.

4.) The Earth has experienced cyclical weather patterns since the beginning.

5.) It has not been conclusively proven that even if there was global warming that mankind could actually cause it...

[pamReagan]

Observe the product of a "different" source (Fox "news") in paranoid jimistreets. NOWHERE did Dallas post "man made".

1.) He correctly noted it's pure ignorance for Fox to measure in "days" let years or decades - and yet there you are, discrediting yourself with "10 years" BS against long-range findings in ice core samples, satellite observations, etc.

2.) Refer us to even 100 of "thousands".

3.) Lie

4.) DUH

5.) Not the point at all.

Typical Fox 'news" supporter...they distort - we report.

[jimistreets]

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind." Continued...

[jimistreets]

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth." Signed by 17,200 scientists..."Petition Project"

[pamReagan]

The following have nothing to do with "Al Gore" you shamless shill.  Joint Statements concluding Global Warming have been signed by the Scientific Academies of Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, the Caribbean, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, New Zealand, Sweden, and the UK. The 2005 statement added Japan, Russia, and the U.S. The 2007 statement added Mexico and South Africa. Professional societies include American Association for the Advancement of Science,

[pamReagan]

As predicted, Jimisteets cites a few discredited sources (just like Fox) verses those who have signed on to Global Warming:

American Astronomical Society, American Chemical Society, American Geophysical Union, American Institute of Physics, American Meteorological Society, Oceanographic Society, Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, Geosciences Union, European Science Foundation, Geological Society of America, Geological Society of London, National Research Council (US) and MORE.

[jimistreets]

If average temps are decreasing then the world is not warming...Come on Pammy, even you must acknowledge that...Al Gore is a fraud that refuses to even debate this subject and millions of zombie-like disciples just bought the whole kit-and-kaboodle...He has become extremely wealthy thanks to you all...

[pamReagan]

jimistreets evokes the name of "Al Gore" again, clearly showing a partisan bias instead of sticking to the debate. Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and the oceans since the mid-twentieth century and its projected continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) during the 100 years ending in 2005.

[terrymadison]

Well stated, Pam. Global warming shouldn't be about politics - even Bush finally admitted it's real after being advised by a Blue-ribbon panelist of global Scientist. But since Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize, people like O'Reilly and Limbaugh, who will probably never come close to any such award, jumped on the political wagon and made it about politics - O'Reilly and other Fox moderators stupidly stated: "The Environment isn't about peace", showing blatant ignorance of Nobel Prize categories.

[pamReagan]

The only "fraud" is jimistreets while kissing the ass of other frauds Bret Baire & Sean Hannity, Doocey, etc. at Fox "news" Every respected Meteorological Society has signed on to Global Warming based on CENTURIES of data. DUH again.. Hmm...who should I believe?.An unfound petition and those at Fox "news" whose owner Murdoch finally admitted a "conservative" agenda?..Or thousands of scientists who have no expressed political agenda? jimistreets proves once again that Fox supporters partisans.

[Shup2the]

he was already extremely wealthy. The misconception by people is that scientists are debating this subject.

[jimistreets]

Wealthy to begin with, sure. However, since he was beatified Patron Saint of Anthropomorphic Global Warming he has raked in about $200 million!! All while preaching the Green Gospel, flying around in a fuel-guzzling private jet! Props are due to those that actually practice what they preach, even though it is not necessary. And Shup, you are correct to a degree when saying that scientists aren't debating AGW. This is because dissent is not tolerated by the "establishment". This is PLENTY though.

[Basta11]

Hahahaha. OMG. LOL. Man, they lie so well, I forgot Lincoln was shot.

[andyplace]

How many hours does brett spend on his hair before each show?

[Rahab111222]

Embarassing!!

[rapmanej]

Brett baier went to my high school

[GstateBALLER925]

that sucks. lol

[vfreeck]

I'm so sorry to hear that :-(

[UncleRico13]

I expect nothing less than fugazi political

babble from a Fox News puppet such as Brett Bair. He's the same spurious talking head who once said that George Bush was one of the "greatest speakers" of our time.

What's the point in having an FCC if they don't regulate the airwaves and keep them safe from agenda driven channels masquerading as news programs?

[Torgue15]

The FCC is there to make sure there are no breasts on tv not to stop FOX from broadcasting it's bullshit.

[zigfried64]

This guy is an IDIOT! Fox News never "admitted that the country hates Bush". People "not liking what the President is doing" is not="HATE".And Fox admitting the country hates Bush is a "positive" thing? The "Fu**ING moron" is YOU!Lincoln was an EXTREMELY controcerisal president.Both North and South "newspapers were filled with suggestions for violence against the president" Turner 1982 In addition, "threatening letters arrived [at the White House] continuously and in large numbers" Hanchett 1983

[jcsuperstar714]

Maybe what he was trying to get at is the fact that there are some things about Lincoln's administration that were not so rosy and "American" and were swept under history's rug for most people's consumption today? There is definite truth to such claims. But no, Bush's delusions of grandeur are clear and what is funny is how they are spun by FOX like every genuine political scandal is.  Man, what is embarrassing is how their propaganda enslavement is so obvious.

[Chupria]

Love the show, but hate the swearing. I think people would respond better to you guys if you didn't swear.

[americandodgeball]

Bush just fantasizes about "history" judging him to be right because he knows THE PRESENT judges him to be dead wrong. The worst part is, he'll never know just how wrong his predictions are.

[getplaning]

Fox News won't be embarrassed by this. They don't have the self respect to be embarrassed.

[kdunkelbarger]

@cooperhj1 wow you're* a bad-ass ripping on a comment made 3 years ago...idiot.

[toastm4n]

embarrassing indeed. oh dear ...

[DillonX]

And you are surprised FAUX is all-screwed-up again ... be...cause....?

[midwestcharm]

I never knew Lincoln had polls numbers in the teens

[hollyhoodjoe123]

Not to mention that Lincoln was reelected during the time he got shot.

Boy, the fox news report gives Fox a bad name....lol

[Wendy62]

He's proud of how his family's handled his time in office? Jenna and Barbara? Man's a f-ing idiot!

[crazytvfan815]

well, he has to have something to be proud of. What else would he say, "I'm proud of fucking up the country!"?

[winklestraat]

when Lincoln left office? Who said that? Bush or this punk faux noise reporter? New Year can't come soon enough.

[awreslr2]

LOL Faux Noise, every so often, good for a laugh, the rest of the time, well, not so funny at all !

[adamsfall]

Lincoln was an eloquent speaker with an open mind and sought conflicting viewpoints from his advisers. Most of all, Lincoln tried his best to avert the Civil War. Bush, on the other hand, is a bumbling, inarticulate, greedy, war criminal.

[Lavos2007]

@adamsfall says another Failhater, do you know ANYTHING about bush? i doubt it, your just another one of those Idiots who will beleive anything their favorite TV news media spews regardless if its even REAL, i support bush, im not saying "he was the best president we ever had" cus he wasnt, but theres been far worse in US history, and i noticed after bush got elected, that the media always painted him as Satan Incarnate, but he wasnt! but im sure you think so, "the news on TV said its true!"

[Encyclopeteia]

This is proof that Fox *is* Fair And Balanced. ;)

[madhi19]

Historical comparison are always tricky at best. Truman drop the bomb to stop a war that could have cost half a million more US soldiers. And probably four times in Japanese casualties.

Not to mention the fact that Stalin armies was getting damn close to Japan at the times. On September 12/2001 Bush could have nuke Afghanistan to the stone age and no one would have objected too loudly. We would all have said. "You fuck with a Super Power you pay the goddamn price."

[souljaEXVOTO]

unlike Bush who the rappers call the pee wee president, black people kinda liked Lincoln, ... among other things .... As a great American named Elvis once said, Same Priscilla, 'cept different. Alas, You sir, are no Abraham Lincoln.

[BobReidy]

Thats not true actually.Fredrick Douglas hated Lincoln until after the emancipation proclimation and when he finally let black soldiers fight in the war.Lincoln would be considered a racist by modern standards.he supported deporting slave back to Africa and allowed for segragted units in the union armyy and allowed for black soldiers to be mal treated.

[jimistreets]

Times have changed indeed...What Lincoln did in freeing the slaves cost him his life...

[BobReidy]

What actually cost him his life was he wanted to give them voting rights.John Wilkes Booth was in the audience when Lincoln gave his last speech onApril 11th 1865 and advocated giving former black soldiers and the inteligent voting rights.Booth decided to kill him after hearing that.Originaly Booth wanted to kidnap Lincoln and hold him hostage in exchange for the release of Confederate POWs.