How did a well-written soundtrack piece get turned into an angry North vs. South argument? Seriously, I'm pro-South, but can't we just set aside our differences and enjoy the music and not fight the War all over again on Youtube?
We can't judge other times and morals with nowadays opinions. I'm a racist, but i still can't find a good reason why any human been should be a slave to another. Was it that hard to treat them as ordinary workers and give them a pay so they could build up a life and sell the cotton at a higher price?
I also think most people on both sides hated or despised negroes. I think it had more to do with rich people rallying a lot of dumb guys for their own benefits and succeeding at it.
There are a lot of problems with this attack. It wasn't in Lee's nature to draw his army out in the open. He is used to letting the other people attack and him defending. Another reason is that Lee was blind most of the battle since JEB Stuart didn't show up until late on July 2nd. He had no idea of enemy movements or strength. Even Gen. Longstreet advised against the whole attack. However the reluctant Lee told him "The enemy is there and I intend to attack him there."
@fokshill it is such a waste of men. And who knows maybe the man who could of developed a vaccine for cancer was sent out on this insane mission. And Stuart running around probably flirting with the ladies on the way . I don't think he had a very good excuse for showing up so late. General 's and corporations I just don't understand
Yea it totally is. Actually on the 2nd day, at Culp's Hill, The army of Northern Virginia could've easily destroyed Meade's army since they had broken through the line there and were only 400 yards away from the Yankee supply and reinforcement road leading directly south into Washington. If Lee could have continued the attacks on the flanks of the Federal Army he could've easily won. It is unfortunate however that he had to waste 1/3 of his army to attack the Federal centre. A very stupid move.
@fokshill thank you for your intelligence in knowledge and just plain politeness. I actually got sworn at by some fanatic die hard I suppose southern person when I made the statement that most charges were a senseless use of men for a lost cause! Gettysburg was such a fine movie compared to it's prequel Gods and Generals. Oh the nasty remark was made about my president! I'm just a wee bit young to remember Mr.Lincoln!
@fokshill Here is something else I have heard two different version of when and how Armistead died. One he died right on the field then I read he died in hospital later.
@Ms2blackcats That one I'm not so sure about because you would have to be there on that day, at that place, and at that time to know how and when he died.
@Ms2blackcats Yeah I've heard of that story to. I don't really know for sure since every book I read about the battle has a different view on how every leader died. I like to believe Armistead died right on the field just to make it seem heroic but oh well, we all don't have time machines as I like to say.
@fokshill I finally checked with the an official army historian about this and they said he died in hospital there at Gettysburg. Never the less this is a good movie and there wasn't one bad actor in the whole movie . What amazes me is Hancock surviving a stomach wound not at Gettysburg though.
@LukePerssonskater You're courage and dedication to your home is admirable. However, if there was a time machine, I would gladly use it to stand at the top of that hill alongside the Union Army. God bless the USA and all it stands for and defends.
It's easily one of the most tragic moments of the war, when Pickett realizes that his men are being slaughtered in the charge he'd wanted for so long. He was never right after the charge, and often would speak of Lee with disdain.
'That man destroyed my division.'
Given, Lee's actions were tragic as well, and quite admirable. As the retreating infantry approached, Lee rode out to them, apologizing as he did, 'This is all my fault.'
Why would anybody ever dislike this? Does that person know that just these three days alone a little over 50,000 men died, that is the same amount of men that died in Vietnam. Whoever dislikes this video doesnt respect America. That shows that there are some pretty sick people out there who disrespects the death of many brave soldiers who died for their view of what America should look like.
Does anyone know why this song wasn't used in the final movie? In the actual scene of Pickett's Charge you can hear an edited version of the song "Battle of Little Round Top" instead.
Marches of defeat are often more celebrated than marches to victory in the Western world. (That is especially true of the French). Guess it has to do with our traditional "underdog" perspective, one of many things that separate us from the rest.
war is no longer as personal as it used to be. men don't see the faces of their enemy; it's mostly guided missiles and bombs. is it for the better, is it for the worser, i don't know
You are mistaken. War is every bit as personal, if not more. Ask the Sniper with superior scopes, who has the opportunity to choose the time and place where a person must end his life. Ask the infantry man who must breach and clear a house.
There are still people who meet face to face or, at least, see faces.
Actually they used this track at the end of the movie, before the credits where they were stating what happened to each chracter with the pictures of the actors fading into the real ones like at the beginning.
@lothaw No, they didn't. That was the actual "Reunion and Finale" theme (minus the main title restatement, which they used for the scene of Lee riding among his troops just before the charge). It just uses a restatement of that lilting passage from the beginning of this one.
I love all the paintings you've chosen for each track. Most of the time people take a bunch of screencaps from a movie in a slideshow to emphasize the emotions of the score, but you've found individual paintings that pretty well sum up each song :)
No matter which side you were on during this war, they were all still Americans who believed that their cause was just and worth dying for! I respect that and soldiers from both Union and Confederate deserve equal levels of respect for the bravery shown during these kind of battles. RIP and never forgot those who died in the line of duty for this nation to continue to exist on this earth!
"It is all over now. Your soldier lives and mourns and but for you, my darling, he would rather be back there with his me to sleep for all time in an unknown grave." (Major General George E. Pickett, CSA to his fiancé Lasalle Corbell soon after the Pettigrw/Pickett/Trimble Assault)
Are you joking? It says we the people, not the president can do what ever he wants. It was Lincolns war! Not we the people's war! Lincoln even admitted that he destroyed the Republic!
The public response to the outbreak of war was cheered in the North. When they called for 75, 000 volonteers, some
200, 000 responded - that have got to be a sign of the public opinion!
Furthermore, tangodancer1603 is entirely correct, the Lincoln administration did not include the abolishion of slavery in their war aims, that came later on, just as the CSA did not include the preservation of slavery in theirs.
I never said slavery was the reason for the war. I said it was about power and money. However Lincoln went after the slaves eventually as a military decision. Also many people in the North were against the war including people in the gov.
@Lesnar316F5 Don't ever be afraid to invoke the term "slavery" as the cause for the Civil War. Sure, it's now fashionable to say that the war wasn't about that issue. That's crap. The whole "States Rights" issue WAS about their "right" to own slaves. And there's NOTHING "right" about slave ownership. This doesn't absolve the north for its terribly unfair policies toward the south in terms of taxation and tariffs, but slavery WAS the root cause and the basis of Dixie's economy and that's wrong.
What unfair economic policies? Southern planters were among the wealthiest, most politically powerful Americans.
In 1858 Northern ports paid over 90% of tariff revenue collected by the US Government.
Southern interests pushed for war with Mexico and forced the human and economic cost to be shouldered by the entire nation...all for the purpose of expanding slavery.
I suppose the point could be made that the war was unconstitutional and that the south had the right to secede (although there cannot have been any moral justification for slavery, even if that wasn't the primary cause of the war), but I'm still glad the union was preserved. Does anyone really believe the world would have been better off with a fractured, divided America?
Both sides fought hard and well and sacrificed many lives. Let it not have been in vain. North + South = America
Most of the south was NOT for slavery. The north was trying to force them to do things and the south wanted to make the choices on their own. Most of the south was to poor to even have slaves do you really think that many rebels would have give their life for slaves they did not even have? When it comes down to it they did the same damn thing we did in the revolutionary war, And for all we know the world could be a better place if they had won.
As much as I would like to believe that it was, it simply wasn't. If the Confederacy hadn't contained a single slave state the U.S. would still have fought them tooth and nails over their trying to secede from the union. Basically slavery was used as the casus belli against the south, sort of like the WMDs were the casus belli against Iraq .... except that the former really existed. ;)
@antred11 Yes indeed, the goal to "Free the slaves" didn't become cause until late in the war. Lincoln was more then willing to allow slavery to preserve the union, but at this point the South didn't really secede over slavery, it was just one of the points. The biggest reason the South seceded was of course due to the hug economical and population differences between north and south. Overall, the South's dependance on agriculture and slaves fell behind heavy industry in the US overall.
@UnionStatesHeritage Slavery may be the preached and most commonly associated issue, but if you look at articles prior to the war, you often see articles against northern industry domination and loss of southern polical enfluence. Both northerm and southern men were racist towrds blacks back then. It's hard to imagine them actualy going to war over that one single issue of slavery. There was more to it then we're taught in schools.
@vguyver2 The war was fought over state rights, not slavery. The South was also freeing a lot of their slaves before the war had started. Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson didn't even own slaves when the war started.
The South was not freeing their slaves. Slavery EXPANDED during the decades leading up to the war. The census of 1860 documents slave/free population by territory and state. HALF the South's population were held in slavery.
Didn't stop Lee from letting his army seize free blacks in PA.
Didn't stop Jackson from supporting a regime that claimed slavery as the cornerstone upon which it was founded.
Ever hear of the book written by Southerner Hinton Rowan Helper, entitled "The Impending Crisis Of The South". An indictment of the Southern economic system. No surprise it was banned in much of the South.
Ever hear of people like Joel Roberts Poinsett, Benjamin Perry, or Vardry McBee? There were men in the South, who supported industrialization, and closer ties with the North. Those men could not break the stranglehold of policial power of the planters.
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm afraid I didn't get that title. I'll keep a look out for that one as I note it down. I recall reading Army of the Potomac, that had an interesting note of when Northern troops first went there. Currency, building design, dress, grammer, and even street layouts. Northern Troops felt like they entered a foreign country. The differences between North and South were more vast then modern people would normally imagine.
You also might want to check out the following books written by Southern authors..."Bitterly Divided, the South's Inner Civil War, by David Williams."
"Lies Across America, What Our Historical Sites Get Wrong", by James W. Loewen.
Currency?....the South was part of the US, the currency was the same. Building design & street layout? strange, since North and South were both settled by English colonists. Historic areas of Charleston, New York, and Boston...all look very similar.
@UnionStatesHeritage As for streets, Northern soldiers pointed out that while streets back home in the cities were a bit more orderly and in shapes like squares and rectangles, the south though was strewn about randomly according to the size of owned property.
I've lived in both Northern and Southern states. Once again...old town Charleston, WIliamsburg, Richmond or Savannah, looks a lot like DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, and Boston.
I still don't see how minor currency differences prove the idea of a separate people. It's absurd, especially in the face of the same language, religion, etc. The differences are no where near, defining a separate people.
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm mentioning this as an first hand experience from soldiers on the field during the period. Don't get it confused as if it's my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, we all had the same land, we were merely a divided poeple out of ignorance. But have to look it this way though, when you head into a region in what was your same country, you probably wouldn't expect to run into oddities like that. hence those soldiers viewpoints.
@vguyver2 The USA is a big country, with a diverse population. You still run into very different regional customs to this day (though that is fading fast).
The USA in 1860 was still a pioneer nation, with a sparse population, & weak (even conflicting) governance. That population was spread out over a huge piece of territory. It really wasn't that odd to find people accepting and using different currencies, especially if they were gold.
When I was a kid, you could use Canadian coins in the US.
@UnionStatesHeritage Precisely. it's hard for people to relate to that. Once Radio came in, followed by movies and TV. We rapidly moved away from that kind of America. Like you said, there are still area's like that around her in the states. Especially small tight-knit communities with thick regional accents or traditions.Remoteness hindering exchange in any form does that to a population, considering the speed of travel/communication over such a large country. Shouldn't be a big surprise.
@UnionStatesHeritage about the currency, there was shock amongst troops in regards to what many southerners called it. The under the same national monetary system, the South still referred 10 cents to Pence's instead of Dimes like the north did. This was even reflected in money printed in local facilities (Back then you could have a business print money after going through the right channels... that boggles my mind to this day.) .
Dress? you must never have looked at photographs, and illustrations from the period.
Since the United States was in, dominated politically by the South, for the first half of the 19th Century, it would be kind of strange for the culture to be that different.
Grammar? Every country has different regional accents.
One thing US soldiers did mention...the appalling gap between rich and poor whites in the South...something Mr. Helper's book addressed, at the time.
@antred11 Precisely! Bottom line is that the "States Rights" issue was the "right" to own slaves. I have mad respect for ALL those who fought this thing. One thing you can say about the participants in this war--each and every one of them believed strongly in their cause. But it doesn't change the fact that the bottom line here was slavery, and that can't be tolerated. The north WAS overly aggressive and demanded unfair taxation and tariffs, but friends, slavery is at the bottom of this.
@antred11 No, but it would have perhaps been better if your America ended to be in some ways a bit more like the Confederacy, not in the slavery or gentry way, but with the greater freedom of the states and greater right to self determination, and less forced big capitalism. The slavery issue was dying out anyways btw, even many of the military leaders, who would have been bound to become future presidents and senators if the war was won disagreed with it.
@MichalPtacnik That's the Articles of Confederation at work - each state essentially an independent nation - setting its own laws, declaring its own taxes, printing its own money, and fighting with each other over borders. That's why the Constitution was written to bind the states together, so that there was no more petty quarreling over such things.
Slavery was NOT on its way out. It expanded exponentially in the South during the first half of the 19th Century. By 1860 HALF the South's population consisted of slaves.
Lee disagreed with it, but let his troops seize free Blacks in Pennsylvania, and march them South to slavery. He accepted Richmond's policy of executing Black Union soldiers and their white officers. He never condemned or refuted the Cornerstone Speech.
@antred11 Unconstitutional? The South attacked first! And slavery was the primary cause of the war. Or, if you want to be picky, the South's fears that the North was preventing the spread of slavery as a prelude to ending slavery altogether. That fiction that the war was ever not about slavery was thought up by some propagandist some time ago and found its way into our textbooks. To quote a certain song, down with the traitor, up with the star!
@darknessesbane The south left the Union, and there was no law against it. And then, they asked the Federal soldiers to surrender and leave. And they didn't. And to me, it's kind of logical that you take up arms against foreign soldiers who won't leave your country. Plus, nobody was actually killed by enemy fire at Fort Sumter.
There was an unfortunate accident with a cannon, where a soldier was killed, but that was kind of the yankee's own fold. Which doesn't make it less unfortunate
Here, here. I'm tired of these Southern dolts who shame their kin by upholding the sad and bigoted tradition of the "Lost Cause". It is fortunate, or at least my hope, that most southerners have actually moved on.
@darknessesbane Slavery the primary cause...? Was it one? Yes. Was it the Primary? No. The south had most of America's wealth. The North was spending money hand over fist like they are now and wanted it. Look up the Merrill Tarriff.
I would have seceded too, which is not illegal. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution or any other legal document which precludes any state or group of states from seceding from the United States. This was also true in 1861.
@Vladimast The reason the south HAD so much wealth was because it was built on the backs of slaves by the chattel=slavery system perpetrated by the upperclass plantation owners. The North was beginning to outstrip the South due to industrialization. C'mon man. You can't divorce the economy of the south from slavery, it basically effected every social class through out the whole period. Even if you didn't own slaves, it was common to rent them from others to help with your own agriculture work
@milo1047 might I remind everyone, that whites were enslaved long before the blacks..it was called "endentured slavery" and those who were enslaved in that situation fared far worse than any black slave..and of course, there are also the Jews during Biblical times, so for the blacks to be playing that "slave" card, well..I am unsympathetic...they fared better as slaves than they would have in Africa trying to survive in far worse conditions....
@robinbarryg Indentured servitude typically came with a set end date (Usually seven years) at which time you were considered to have worked off the contract you had signed. Chattel slavery had no such clause. In any case you have entirely missed the point of my post and are entirely wrong in pretty much everything you wrote, to boot. Indentured servants never had to suffer the inhumanity of having their families split up, whipped, forbidden their religion and marriages, etc.
@darknessesbane, as someone who had several ancestors fight for the Union, I will tell you that this was not a war fought due to slavery alone. Secondarily, spreading hate is just childish. The CSA deserves respect,in spite of your opinions.
@darknessesbane you can't deny the fight for state's rights though. Yes, Slavery was a primary cause, but was it the only one? no. The State's rights fight continues on today.
@darknessesbane It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision - Patrick Cleburne "Stonewall of the West"
@antred11 My guess is that there would have been political upheaval in Britain and France if they had sided with the South and once that happens I wouldn't be surprised if other powers joined us, resulting in the First World War... 50 years before it broke out.
Though I'm no expert, though raising French and British power would have upset the others, and if that did not happen, we're talking about political unrest like you'll finding in Africa and the Middle East breaking out.
I'm a British man, and I still admire the courage and gallantry under fire shown by the men of both sides during the American Civil War. Let us pray to almighty God that such a thing never needs happen again.
(sorry if i spelled it wrong, my family isn't religous and I'm only chirstion now cause my ex-girl friend made me go to youth group with her and i stuck with it afterwords:) )
@somedude221 well I am also British, so what happens if we so disagree with the EU over something, like our fiscal policy, and decide to cede from the EU but we have EU bases here, could we have a United States of Europe War ??? you may think I jest, but alas I don't
"Once there was a land full of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields, called the Old South. Where gallantry took it's last bow. Look for it no more, for it is written only in books.... a civilization ~~~~~~~~~"Gone With The Wind".
I'll say this: Gallantry did not take it's last bow in the Eastern United States in the 1860s. The last Crusade of the Old World of nobles and knights took place half a century later. The Great War, 1914-1918 was the death of gallantry. 1861 to 1865 was the death of a great evil: Slavery, and the unification of a nation that has accomplished great things since. Do not let propaganda like Gone With the Wind fool you, the Old South was not that grand, unless you were both white and rich.
I am a Southern born Lady, I happen to love the South. I am also a Civil War researcher and help people find their ancestors who fought in the Civil War, both for the North & South. I have ancestors who fought on both sides during the Civil War. It was a terriable war! I agree but Southerners, are proud people, and stand up for what they think is right, they always have. I happen to love my Southern home , I have ancestors who fought in every war from the Revolutionary War on down!
I have.......his name was John Sundblad, born in 1835 and joined the US Army (Yankee) on 16th October 1861. This man was from Minnesota, he was the only one with this last name on record records I have access to. Keep in mind that without a first name and more information on him, there is no proof that this is your ancestor.
The number of men in the two armies at "Gettysburg", will never be known. Attendance was not taken as the regiments arrived there.The armies that fought here were not concise, finite units of men. Companies, regiments brigades were assigned to guard supply routes, lines of cummunications, or the rear of the army. Hard marching found soldiers dropping out of line from exhaustion, illness, heat stroke or fear. Often missed in the details of the famous charge of July 2 by the 1st Minnesota is ...
the fact that only seven of the regiment's ten companies were engaged here. The three other companies--C, F, and L--had been reassigned to other areas on the battlefield. Company F would rejoin the regiment in time to repulse Pickett's Charge on July 3. Thus the full strength of the 1st Minnesota cannot be assumed when examining actions attributed to the regiment at any given time.
Source: book "The Fog of Gettysburg" The Myths and Mysteries OF THE BATTLE by Ken Allers Jr.
Firstly, the last country to abolish slavery was Portugal, in 1878, if im not mistaken.
Secondly, the "unification" came at a prize of 600, 000 dead Americans and the breaking of numerous constitutional laws.
The North acted tyrannical, and the South as well, though in another way... none of them deserves to be called grand. Why do you not revive some of that past gallantry by not posting propaganda based on ignorance.
With all due respect, I feel I must say this quote came from the opening pages of a novel by Margaret Mitchell. Most of you know the book as "Gone With The Wind", her version of the Old South's way of life ; before, the Civil War. I left out some of the words so as not to offend some people. After much researching, I did find most of the words of this quote written by a Captain S A Jonas, CSA in a library book
many years ago. It was almost un-distinguishable the name of the author.
Thank You for this video, all those men who marched with Pickett, never came back from the charge. When General Lee faced Pickett on the retreat of the battle, he asked him to form his brigade. At that time Gen George Pickett said to him...Gen I have no men! This is one of the saddest moments in the movie. There were no men left! alas, they had given their Last Full Measure.....
Beautiful! We have never forgotten what happened on this day in History...Lest we forget their cause, always remember those brave valiant men of the South, we honor them still, with reverence and awe.
Why am I the only comment on this video. God save our history and the lives who made it. Never forget those who gave their life for a cause. Even if you oppose it.
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ahopwood1967 1 month ago
How did a well-written soundtrack piece get turned into an angry North vs. South argument? Seriously, I'm pro-South, but can't we just set aside our differences and enjoy the music and not fight the War all over again on Youtube?
Man4God4eva 1 month ago
We can't judge other times and morals with nowadays opinions. I'm a racist, but i still can't find a good reason why any human been should be a slave to another. Was it that hard to treat them as ordinary workers and give them a pay so they could build up a life and sell the cotton at a higher price?
I also think most people on both sides hated or despised negroes. I think it had more to do with rich people rallying a lot of dumb guys for their own benefits and succeeding at it.
NKismynextgoal 1 month ago
A magnificent piece of music.
Eiger6 2 months ago
I just don't understand and I guess I never will, what was Lee's problem ordering this attack/
Ms2blackcats 6 months ago
There are a lot of problems with this attack. It wasn't in Lee's nature to draw his army out in the open. He is used to letting the other people attack and him defending. Another reason is that Lee was blind most of the battle since JEB Stuart didn't show up until late on July 2nd. He had no idea of enemy movements or strength. Even Gen. Longstreet advised against the whole attack. However the reluctant Lee told him "The enemy is there and I intend to attack him there."
fokshill 5 months ago
@fokshill it is such a waste of men. And who knows maybe the man who could of developed a vaccine for cancer was sent out on this insane mission. And Stuart running around probably flirting with the ladies on the way . I don't think he had a very good excuse for showing up so late. General 's and corporations I just don't understand
Ms2blackcats 5 months ago
Yea it totally is. Actually on the 2nd day, at Culp's Hill, The army of Northern Virginia could've easily destroyed Meade's army since they had broken through the line there and were only 400 yards away from the Yankee supply and reinforcement road leading directly south into Washington. If Lee could have continued the attacks on the flanks of the Federal Army he could've easily won. It is unfortunate however that he had to waste 1/3 of his army to attack the Federal centre. A very stupid move.
fokshill 5 months ago
@fokshill thank you for your intelligence in knowledge and just plain politeness. I actually got sworn at by some fanatic die hard I suppose southern person when I made the statement that most charges were a senseless use of men for a lost cause! Gettysburg was such a fine movie compared to it's prequel Gods and Generals. Oh the nasty remark was made about my president! I'm just a wee bit young to remember Mr.Lincoln!
Ms2blackcats 5 months ago
@Ms2blackcats You're quite welcome (: im studying to be a History major so i gotta know my stuff
fokshill 5 months ago
@fokshill Here is something else I have heard two different version of when and how Armistead died. One he died right on the field then I read he died in hospital later.
Ms2blackcats 5 months ago
@Ms2blackcats That one I'm not so sure about because you would have to be there on that day, at that place, and at that time to know how and when he died.
fokshill 5 months ago
@Ms2blackcats Yeah I've heard of that story to. I don't really know for sure since every book I read about the battle has a different view on how every leader died. I like to believe Armistead died right on the field just to make it seem heroic but oh well, we all don't have time machines as I like to say.
fokshill 4 months ago
@fokshill I finally checked with the an official army historian about this and they said he died in hospital there at Gettysburg. Never the less this is a good movie and there wasn't one bad actor in the whole movie . What amazes me is Hancock surviving a stomach wound not at Gettysburg though.
Ms2blackcats 4 months ago
If anyone has a time machine, Please contact me, I want to be in the last charge against the Yankees.
LukePerssonskater 8 months ago
@LukePerssonskater You're courage and dedication to your home is admirable. However, if there was a time machine, I would gladly use it to stand at the top of that hill alongside the Union Army. God bless the USA and all it stands for and defends.
Brad1223 8 months ago
@Brad1223 I respect your views. I hope some day we will meet on that battle field.
LukePerssonskater 8 months ago
@LukePerssonskater
Battle of Franklin easily outdoes Gettysburg, and man would it have been something to see.
Ottoman1337 6 months ago
@Ottoman1337 epic battle.
LukePerssonskater 6 months ago
Pickette actually said "That's the style Lo, thats the style!" Since General Armisted's nickname was "Lothario"
JoeyLeafRunner 8 months ago
@JoeyLeafRunner
"What's happenin'? I can't see what's happenin' to my boys. What's happenin' to my boys?! "
That particular scene with Pickett for me is one of the saddest moments of the movie, IMO.
asilaydying2234 7 months ago
@asilaydying2234
It's easily one of the most tragic moments of the war, when Pickett realizes that his men are being slaughtered in the charge he'd wanted for so long. He was never right after the charge, and often would speak of Lee with disdain.
'That man destroyed my division.'
Given, Lee's actions were tragic as well, and quite admirable. As the retreating infantry approached, Lee rode out to them, apologizing as he did, 'This is all my fault.'
Ottoman1337 6 months ago
Why would anybody ever dislike this? Does that person know that just these three days alone a little over 50,000 men died, that is the same amount of men that died in Vietnam. Whoever dislikes this video doesnt respect America. That shows that there are some pretty sick people out there who disrespects the death of many brave soldiers who died for their view of what America should look like.
SuperYoungmoney96 9 months ago
"this is the style, Lou this is the style" - Pickett. excellent and beatiful movie,
EMIGA033 9 months ago
@EMIGA033 actually he said ''thats the style Lou,thats the style'' just to be clear
edyoung44 9 months ago
When I first listened to this, I wondered if this was the part of "What's happening to my boys?!?"
DarthWill3 10 months ago
Does anyone know why this song wasn't used in the final movie? In the actual scene of Pickett's Charge you can hear an edited version of the song "Battle of Little Round Top" instead.
ross42899 11 months ago
Marches of defeat are often more celebrated than marches to victory in the Western world. (That is especially true of the French). Guess it has to do with our traditional "underdog" perspective, one of many things that separate us from the rest.
Faxe90Swe 1 year ago
"General Hancock get down its not safe for you"
"sometimes a corps Commanders life doesn't matter"
markmason1000 1 year ago
war is no longer as personal as it used to be. men don't see the faces of their enemy; it's mostly guided missiles and bombs. is it for the better, is it for the worser, i don't know
bh5496 1 year ago
@bh5496
You are mistaken. War is every bit as personal, if not more. Ask the Sniper with superior scopes, who has the opportunity to choose the time and place where a person must end his life. Ask the infantry man who must breach and clear a house.
There are still people who meet face to face or, at least, see faces.
Mahbu 1 year ago
Every time I hear this song I think of Stephen Lang after the battle.
"General Lee...I have no division."
asilaydying2234 1 year ago
is it march to mortality or imortality?
MegaCastigers 1 year ago 5
Great song and video. Randy Edelman did a perfect job on this movie's songtrack.
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
Funny thing is, this piece never appeared in the movie. They reused a recut version of the Battle of Little Round Top instead.
Ambaryerno 1 year ago
@Ambaryerno
Actually they used this track at the end of the movie, before the credits where they were stating what happened to each chracter with the pictures of the actors fading into the real ones like at the beginning.
lothaw 1 year ago
@lothaw No, they didn't. That was the actual "Reunion and Finale" theme (minus the main title restatement, which they used for the scene of Lee riding among his troops just before the charge). It just uses a restatement of that lilting passage from the beginning of this one.
Ambaryerno 1 year ago
"March to immortality" would be a more appropriate title.
sebs42 1 year ago
I love all the paintings you've chosen for each track. Most of the time people take a bunch of screencaps from a movie in a slideshow to emphasize the emotions of the score, but you've found individual paintings that pretty well sum up each song :)
thereefshark 1 year ago
Randy Edelman is the man.
History is outstanding.
gsam99 1 year ago
No matter which side you were on during this war, they were all still Americans who believed that their cause was just and worth dying for! I respect that and soldiers from both Union and Confederate deserve equal levels of respect for the bravery shown during these kind of battles. RIP and never forgot those who died in the line of duty for this nation to continue to exist on this earth!
Gruntvc 1 year ago
these men know what is expected of them they would make this charge even without an officer to lead them (gen lo armasted csa)
cloud45s 2 years ago
Sorry that should be "with his men". D'oh!
Braincase43 2 years ago
"It is all over now. Your soldier lives and mourns and but for you, my darling, he would rather be back there with his me to sleep for all time in an unknown grave." (Major General George E. Pickett, CSA to his fiancé Lasalle Corbell soon after the Pettigrw/Pickett/Trimble Assault)
Braincase43 2 years ago
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tangodancer1603 2 years ago 2
Are you joking? It says we the people, not the president can do what ever he wants. It was Lincolns war! Not we the people's war! Lincoln even admitted that he destroyed the Republic!
Lesnar316F5 1 year ago
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tangodancer1603 1 year ago
@Lesnar316F5
The public response to the outbreak of war was cheered in the North. When they called for 75, 000 volonteers, some
200, 000 responded - that have got to be a sign of the public opinion!
Furthermore, tangodancer1603 is entirely correct, the Lincoln administration did not include the abolishion of slavery in their war aims, that came later on, just as the CSA did not include the preservation of slavery in theirs.
Faxe90Swe 1 year ago
I never said slavery was the reason for the war. I said it was about power and money. However Lincoln went after the slaves eventually as a military decision. Also many people in the North were against the war including people in the gov.
Lesnar316F5 1 year ago
@Lesnar316F5 Don't ever be afraid to invoke the term "slavery" as the cause for the Civil War. Sure, it's now fashionable to say that the war wasn't about that issue. That's crap. The whole "States Rights" issue WAS about their "right" to own slaves. And there's NOTHING "right" about slave ownership. This doesn't absolve the north for its terribly unfair policies toward the south in terms of taxation and tariffs, but slavery WAS the root cause and the basis of Dixie's economy and that's wrong.
rickcee 1 year ago
@rickcee
What unfair economic policies? Southern planters were among the wealthiest, most politically powerful Americans.
In 1858 Northern ports paid over 90% of tariff revenue collected by the US Government.
Southern interests pushed for war with Mexico and forced the human and economic cost to be shouldered by the entire nation...all for the purpose of expanding slavery.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
poor rebels god dam yanks.
GameCenter2009 2 years ago
I suppose the point could be made that the war was unconstitutional and that the south had the right to secede (although there cannot have been any moral justification for slavery, even if that wasn't the primary cause of the war), but I'm still glad the union was preserved. Does anyone really believe the world would have been better off with a fractured, divided America?
Both sides fought hard and well and sacrificed many lives. Let it not have been in vain. North + South = America
antred11 2 years ago 26
Most of the south was NOT for slavery. The north was trying to force them to do things and the south wanted to make the choices on their own. Most of the south was to poor to even have slaves do you really think that many rebels would have give their life for slaves they did not even have? When it comes down to it they did the same damn thing we did in the revolutionary war, And for all we know the world could be a better place if they had won.
IRONiHonakoo 2 years ago
You sir an idiot. Go read ANY history book that wasn't written by a klan member.
dillard6662001 2 years ago
what do u mean if that slavery wasnt even the primary cause of the war?
matt2house 2 years ago
As much as I would like to believe that it was, it simply wasn't. If the Confederacy hadn't contained a single slave state the U.S. would still have fought them tooth and nails over their trying to secede from the union. Basically slavery was used as the casus belli against the south, sort of like the WMDs were the casus belli against Iraq .... except that the former really existed. ;)
antred11 2 years ago
@antred11 Yes indeed, the goal to "Free the slaves" didn't become cause until late in the war. Lincoln was more then willing to allow slavery to preserve the union, but at this point the South didn't really secede over slavery, it was just one of the points. The biggest reason the South seceded was of course due to the hug economical and population differences between north and south. Overall, the South's dependance on agriculture and slaves fell behind heavy industry in the US overall.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2
"the South fought on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause for quarrel, than slavery".
John Singleton Mosby...CSA
That statement is backed by the Secession Declarations of Southern states, and the Cornerstone speech.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Slavery may be the preached and most commonly associated issue, but if you look at articles prior to the war, you often see articles against northern industry domination and loss of southern polical enfluence. Both northerm and southern men were racist towrds blacks back then. It's hard to imagine them actualy going to war over that one single issue of slavery. There was more to it then we're taught in schools.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2 The war was fought over state rights, not slavery. The South was also freeing a lot of their slaves before the war had started. Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson didn't even own slaves when the war started.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@Alexandros1294 I agree, which is exactly what I was pointing out in previous posts here.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@Alexandros1294
The South was not freeing their slaves. Slavery EXPANDED during the decades leading up to the war. The census of 1860 documents slave/free population by territory and state. HALF the South's population were held in slavery.
Didn't stop Lee from letting his army seize free blacks in PA.
Didn't stop Jackson from supporting a regime that claimed slavery as the cornerstone upon which it was founded.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
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@UnionStatesHeritage Well that's not what I heard.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@vguyver2
Ever hear of the book written by Southerner Hinton Rowan Helper, entitled "The Impending Crisis Of The South". An indictment of the Southern economic system. No surprise it was banned in much of the South.
Ever hear of people like Joel Roberts Poinsett, Benjamin Perry, or Vardry McBee? There were men in the South, who supported industrialization, and closer ties with the North. Those men could not break the stranglehold of policial power of the planters.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm afraid I didn't get that title. I'll keep a look out for that one as I note it down. I recall reading Army of the Potomac, that had an interesting note of when Northern troops first went there. Currency, building design, dress, grammer, and even street layouts. Northern Troops felt like they entered a foreign country. The differences between North and South were more vast then modern people would normally imagine.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2
You also might want to check out the following books written by Southern authors..."Bitterly Divided, the South's Inner Civil War, by David Williams."
"Lies Across America, What Our Historical Sites Get Wrong", by James W. Loewen.
Currency?....the South was part of the US, the currency was the same. Building design & street layout? strange, since North and South were both settled by English colonists. Historic areas of Charleston, New York, and Boston...all look very similar.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage As for streets, Northern soldiers pointed out that while streets back home in the cities were a bit more orderly and in shapes like squares and rectangles, the south though was strewn about randomly according to the size of owned property.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2
I've lived in both Northern and Southern states. Once again...old town Charleston, WIliamsburg, Richmond or Savannah, looks a lot like DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, and Boston.
I still don't see how minor currency differences prove the idea of a separate people. It's absurd, especially in the face of the same language, religion, etc. The differences are no where near, defining a separate people.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage I'm mentioning this as an first hand experience from soldiers on the field during the period. Don't get it confused as if it's my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, we all had the same land, we were merely a divided poeple out of ignorance. But have to look it this way though, when you head into a region in what was your same country, you probably wouldn't expect to run into oddities like that. hence those soldiers viewpoints.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2 The USA is a big country, with a diverse population. You still run into very different regional customs to this day (though that is fading fast).
The USA in 1860 was still a pioneer nation, with a sparse population, & weak (even conflicting) governance. That population was spread out over a huge piece of territory. It really wasn't that odd to find people accepting and using different currencies, especially if they were gold.
When I was a kid, you could use Canadian coins in the US.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage Precisely. it's hard for people to relate to that. Once Radio came in, followed by movies and TV. We rapidly moved away from that kind of America. Like you said, there are still area's like that around her in the states. Especially small tight-knit communities with thick regional accents or traditions.Remoteness hindering exchange in any form does that to a population, considering the speed of travel/communication over such a large country. Shouldn't be a big surprise.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@UnionStatesHeritage about the currency, there was shock amongst troops in regards to what many southerners called it. The under the same national monetary system, the South still referred 10 cents to Pence's instead of Dimes like the north did. This was even reflected in money printed in local facilities (Back then you could have a business print money after going through the right channels... that boggles my mind to this day.) .
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2
Dress? you must never have looked at photographs, and illustrations from the period.
Since the United States was in, dominated politically by the South, for the first half of the 19th Century, it would be kind of strange for the culture to be that different.
Grammar? Every country has different regional accents.
One thing US soldiers did mention...the appalling gap between rich and poor whites in the South...something Mr. Helper's book addressed, at the time.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@vguyver2
Again, I refer you to the Secession Declarations and the Mosby Quote...just one of many made by Southerners AT THE TIME.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
The man reason for the war was Federalism (North) vs Anti-Federalism (South). Slavery and tariffs/taxes were reasons also.
Lesnar316F5 1 year ago
@antred11 Precisely! Bottom line is that the "States Rights" issue was the "right" to own slaves. I have mad respect for ALL those who fought this thing. One thing you can say about the participants in this war--each and every one of them believed strongly in their cause. But it doesn't change the fact that the bottom line here was slavery, and that can't be tolerated. The north WAS overly aggressive and demanded unfair taxation and tariffs, but friends, slavery is at the bottom of this.
rickcee 1 year ago
@antred11 No, but it would have perhaps been better if your America ended to be in some ways a bit more like the Confederacy, not in the slavery or gentry way, but with the greater freedom of the states and greater right to self determination, and less forced big capitalism. The slavery issue was dying out anyways btw, even many of the military leaders, who would have been bound to become future presidents and senators if the war was won disagreed with it.
MichalPtacnik 1 year ago
@MichalPtacnik That's the Articles of Confederation at work - each state essentially an independent nation - setting its own laws, declaring its own taxes, printing its own money, and fighting with each other over borders. That's why the Constitution was written to bind the states together, so that there was no more petty quarreling over such things.
NHSActor 1 year ago
@MichalPtacnik
Slavery was NOT on its way out. It expanded exponentially in the South during the first half of the 19th Century. By 1860 HALF the South's population consisted of slaves.
Lee disagreed with it, but let his troops seize free Blacks in Pennsylvania, and march them South to slavery. He accepted Richmond's policy of executing Black Union soldiers and their white officers. He never condemned or refuted the Cornerstone Speech.
UnionStatesHeritage 1 year ago
@antred11 Probably. It would certainly have kept the US out of other people's business. We're a lot like the Athenian Empire.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@antred11 Lincoln himself even said "A house that is divided against itselft cannot stand."
TheLegolasguy 1 year ago
@antred11 Unconstitutional? The South attacked first! And slavery was the primary cause of the war. Or, if you want to be picky, the South's fears that the North was preventing the spread of slavery as a prelude to ending slavery altogether. That fiction that the war was ever not about slavery was thought up by some propagandist some time ago and found its way into our textbooks. To quote a certain song, down with the traitor, up with the star!
darknessesbane 1 year ago 3
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ViccardXViccc 1 year ago
@darknessesbane The south left the Union, and there was no law against it. And then, they asked the Federal soldiers to surrender and leave. And they didn't. And to me, it's kind of logical that you take up arms against foreign soldiers who won't leave your country. Plus, nobody was actually killed by enemy fire at Fort Sumter.
There was an unfortunate accident with a cannon, where a soldier was killed, but that was kind of the yankee's own fold. Which doesn't make it less unfortunate
ViccardXViccc 1 year ago
@ViccardXViccc Confederate soldier died....but still
rrainfall 1 year ago
@darknessesbane
Here, here. I'm tired of these Southern dolts who shame their kin by upholding the sad and bigoted tradition of the "Lost Cause". It is fortunate, or at least my hope, that most southerners have actually moved on.
Mahbu 1 year ago
@darknessesbane Slavery the primary cause...? Was it one? Yes. Was it the Primary? No. The south had most of America's wealth. The North was spending money hand over fist like they are now and wanted it. Look up the Merrill Tarriff.
I would have seceded too, which is not illegal. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution or any other legal document which precludes any state or group of states from seceding from the United States. This was also true in 1861.
Vladimast 3 months ago 3
@Vladimast The reason the south HAD so much wealth was because it was built on the backs of slaves by the chattel=slavery system perpetrated by the upperclass plantation owners. The North was beginning to outstrip the South due to industrialization. C'mon man. You can't divorce the economy of the south from slavery, it basically effected every social class through out the whole period. Even if you didn't own slaves, it was common to rent them from others to help with your own agriculture work
milo1047 3 months ago
@milo1047 might I remind everyone, that whites were enslaved long before the blacks..it was called "endentured slavery" and those who were enslaved in that situation fared far worse than any black slave..and of course, there are also the Jews during Biblical times, so for the blacks to be playing that "slave" card, well..I am unsympathetic...they fared better as slaves than they would have in Africa trying to survive in far worse conditions....
robinbarryg 2 months ago
@robinbarryg Indentured servitude typically came with a set end date (Usually seven years) at which time you were considered to have worked off the contract you had signed. Chattel slavery had no such clause. In any case you have entirely missed the point of my post and are entirely wrong in pretty much everything you wrote, to boot. Indentured servants never had to suffer the inhumanity of having their families split up, whipped, forbidden their religion and marriages, etc.
milo1047 2 months ago
@darknessesbane, as someone who had several ancestors fight for the Union, I will tell you that this was not a war fought due to slavery alone. Secondarily, spreading hate is just childish. The CSA deserves respect,in spite of your opinions.
robinbarryg 2 months ago
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Bhobbs1985 2 months ago
@darknessesbane you can't deny the fight for state's rights though. Yes, Slavery was a primary cause, but was it the only one? no. The State's rights fight continues on today.
Vladimast 1 month ago
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@darknessesbane It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision - Patrick Cleburne "Stonewall of the West"
AUG351 4 days ago
@antred11 My guess is that there would have been political upheaval in Britain and France if they had sided with the South and once that happens I wouldn't be surprised if other powers joined us, resulting in the First World War... 50 years before it broke out.
Though I'm no expert, though raising French and British power would have upset the others, and if that did not happen, we're talking about political unrest like you'll finding in Africa and the Middle East breaking out.
FLJBeliever1776 10 months ago
I'm a British man, and I still admire the courage and gallantry under fire shown by the men of both sides during the American Civil War. Let us pray to almighty God that such a thing never needs happen again.
somedude221 3 years ago 35
Amen,
(sorry if i spelled it wrong, my family isn't religous and I'm only chirstion now cause my ex-girl friend made me go to youth group with her and i stuck with it afterwords:) )
nooo8oooo 2 years ago
@somedude221 well I am also British, so what happens if we so disagree with the EU over something, like our fiscal policy, and decide to cede from the EU but we have EU bases here, could we have a United States of Europe War ??? you may think I jest, but alas I don't
tangodancer1603 1 year ago
@somedude221 Amen.
Especially for reasons of Slavery and Bigotry.
FLJBeliever1776 10 months ago
"Once there was a land full of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields, called the Old South. Where gallantry took it's last bow. Look for it no more, for it is written only in books.... a civilization ~~~~~~~~~"Gone With The Wind".
SoBelleofTN 3 years ago 3
I'll say this: Gallantry did not take it's last bow in the Eastern United States in the 1860s. The last Crusade of the Old World of nobles and knights took place half a century later. The Great War, 1914-1918 was the death of gallantry. 1861 to 1865 was the death of a great evil: Slavery, and the unification of a nation that has accomplished great things since. Do not let propaganda like Gone With the Wind fool you, the Old South was not that grand, unless you were both white and rich.
somedude221 2 years ago
I am a Southern born Lady, I happen to love the South. I am also a Civil War researcher and help people find their ancestors who fought in the Civil War, both for the North & South. I have ancestors who fought on both sides during the Civil War. It was a terriable war! I agree but Southerners, are proud people, and stand up for what they think is right, they always have. I happen to love my Southern home , I have ancestors who fought in every war from the Revolutionary War on down!
SoBelleofTN 2 years ago 2
Ever come across a soldier named Sundblad?
Faxe90Swe 2 years ago
I have.......his name was John Sundblad, born in 1835 and joined the US Army (Yankee) on 16th October 1861. This man was from Minnesota, he was the only one with this last name on record records I have access to. Keep in mind that without a first name and more information on him, there is no proof that this is your ancestor.
SoBelleofTN 2 years ago
The number of men in the two armies at "Gettysburg", will never be known. Attendance was not taken as the regiments arrived there.The armies that fought here were not concise, finite units of men. Companies, regiments brigades were assigned to guard supply routes, lines of cummunications, or the rear of the army. Hard marching found soldiers dropping out of line from exhaustion, illness, heat stroke or fear. Often missed in the details of the famous charge of July 2 by the 1st Minnesota is ...
SoBelleofTN 2 years ago
the fact that only seven of the regiment's ten companies were engaged here. The three other companies--C, F, and L--had been reassigned to other areas on the battlefield. Company F would rejoin the regiment in time to repulse Pickett's Charge on July 3. Thus the full strength of the 1st Minnesota cannot be assumed when examining actions attributed to the regiment at any given time.
Source: book "The Fog of Gettysburg" The Myths and Mysteries OF THE BATTLE by Ken Allers Jr.
SoBelleofTN 2 years ago
Firstly, the last country to abolish slavery was Portugal, in 1878, if im not mistaken.
Secondly, the "unification" came at a prize of 600, 000 dead Americans and the breaking of numerous constitutional laws.
The North acted tyrannical, and the South as well, though in another way... none of them deserves to be called grand. Why do you not revive some of that past gallantry by not posting propaganda based on ignorance.
Faxe90Swe 2 years ago 3
With all due respect, I feel I must say this quote came from the opening pages of a novel by Margaret Mitchell. Most of you know the book as "Gone With The Wind", her version of the Old South's way of life ; before, the Civil War. I left out some of the words so as not to offend some people. After much researching, I did find most of the words of this quote written by a Captain S A Jonas, CSA in a library book
many years ago. It was almost un-distinguishable the name of the author.
SoBelleofTN 2 years ago
Thank You for this video, all those men who marched with Pickett, never came back from the charge. When General Lee faced Pickett on the retreat of the battle, he asked him to form his brigade. At that time Gen George Pickett said to him...Gen I have no men! This is one of the saddest moments in the movie. There were no men left! alas, they had given their Last Full Measure.....
SoBelleofTN 3 years ago
paise for those men who faught for what they believe whether it may be north or south this is the real strenght of our nation
emarbiz 3 years ago
Beautiful! We have never forgotten what happened on this day in History...Lest we forget their cause, always remember those brave valiant men of the South, we honor them still, with reverence and awe.
SoBelleofTN 3 years ago
Greetings from The 4th Maryland Light Artillery, CSA.
Thank you for posting these.
SgtDutterer 3 years ago 3
Why am I the only comment on this video. God save our history and the lives who made it. Never forget those who gave their life for a cause. Even if you oppose it.
2563130 3 years ago 25
That's very true. Oh, and thank you for commenting. :3
Mast3rFr3aky 3 years ago