@ukipwebmaster as thought just like the bnp another engish party . SNP will make sure we ditch uk and well maybe its upto the scots to decide that once we r independent we will have our own election this while immigrants out thing and the euro is bad is mainly just english not many r like that in scotland
@ukipwebmaster of coarse i have the way scotland gets treated its criminal more and more people r voting yes toindependence the problem is UKIP is doing nothing to seperate england and scotland and england will bring down scotland with it building all these new nukes called trident look it up trident
@ukipwebmaster last time i checked snp won in 2007 and a lot of polls r showing independance vote yes is going up it was low earlier if snp dont save scotland . scotland will become a nuclear waste land because of all these nuclear subs and missles. vote snp stop the nukes
UKIP are irrelevant in Scotland, because they argue for more devolved powers for the UK (Westminster government) as opposed to European government... ie, smaller government is better....
.... but at the same time argue that Bigger government is better (UK government) as opposed to Holyrood government???
You can only butter your bread on one side UKIP... either more devolved powers or Less devolved powers?
If you actually bother to read our West Lothian answer and constitutional settlement you will see that what we propose is entirely fair not just for Scotland but for England and Wales as well. On the plus side it reduces the number of politicians and costs the taxpayers far less.
It seems to me the ones who are having their cake and eating it are the SNP.
I am a Scot but unlike the SNP socialists I don't have a chip on my shoulder and I realised a long time ago that along with New Labour they have dragged Scotland down into becoming a dependency nation. Making Scotland a region of the EU is the endgame for them from which there is no escape.
I don't understand your point.... as a UKIP support surely you believe in freetrade and friendship with your neighbours, not political union?
As I'm sure you know, the whole mantra of your party is the belief that countries should run themselves for the benefit of their own people.
... yet why then are you more than happy for Scotland to be run almost entirely by the union parliament in England where more than 90% of the MPs are non-Scots?!!
Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling, David Cameron...... The list goes on. We are being ruined by Scottish politicians and we should be the ones with a grudge. There is a much stronger case for England leaving the union and letting Scotland and Wales get on with it and when the subsidies dry up perhaps they will follow the lessons of Adam Smith?
If the majority of Scots wanted independence then no one is standing in their way but polls have shown they are for the UK.
I see you use the 'we' as in you and English - have you changed your nationality in the last week?
But - if you're really Scottish, I'm interested in your position.... why are you principally opposed to a political union which sees your country run from Belgium, but are happily promoting a political union which see your country run from England?!
.... unless I'm missing something it's simply not a logical argument!
i am a ukip memebr and as i understand it each nation in the union would have its own assembly run by its current westminster mps, and each would debate its own devolved matters so in reality there is smaller gov and more devoloution for all in the union. and seeing as we are all about the people deciding we would not have a problem with facilitating a refarendum on scotland leaving the union if they so wished i dont see why so many scots have a problem with our modle of gov ?
Do you honestly think that you are going to get anywhere in Scotland coming away with drivel like that? Or do you just aspire to be a looney fringe group?
Do you think Scots, who may potentially vote for your party are going to be swayed by broad brush insults and rhetoric like that?
Still, I suppose UKIP should be congratulated on at least saying what they think about the Scots - unlike the slippery Tories who think exactly the same but still want our money and votes.
Yes, I can definitely see that you would need to have a sense of humour to campaign for UKIP in Scotland. But such a cavalier attitude to potential votes and voters doesn't usually get you anywhere.
Unfortunately the Labour stranglehold on parts of West-Central Scotland (eg Glasgow North East) will take a lot of time to remove. Just like it will for the very deprived, run down constituencies of Northern England and the English Midlands where the Labour party have a similar stranglehold.
One things for sure if the SNP are able to mislead the people of Scotland into independence, Scotland will surrender many of the powers it gains from Wesminister straight to Brussels.
People need to understand that the SNP would join the euro, this has huge implications for Scottish business especially as England (Scotlands main trading partner) wont be joining.
How the SNP think their interests will be looked after more by the ECB and Brussels i dont know :\
Thats another thing where the SNP lie to the people. They go on and on about how if they were independent they would be rich like Norway.
What they fail to tell the people of Scotland is Norway only manages to make the money it does from its oil wealth because they have state owned energy companies, something only possible because they are not a member of the European Union.
The SNP need to choose do they want to be like Ireland with the Euro or like Norway with its oil.. they cant have both
maybe if you knew more about scotlands treatment under succesive thatcherite governments you would understand why people might not see westminster as a better ally than the eu.
"Getting rid of that corrupt, malignant influence that Westminster would be a start"
Yes, the very same Westminster which is ruled by Scotsmen like Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling who have screwed the UK economy whilst propping up RBS to protect their political patronage north of the border?
Most of the Scots I speak to hate Holyrood for the very same reasons. If you want the 'West Lothian Answer' and a fair solution to over-government look it up on the UKIP site.
Perhaps it has just been my own cognisance, but hasn't it mainly English MPs who've had their corrupt snouts buried deepest into the Westminster trough of pork?
"... whilst propping up RBS.."
Conveniently not mentioning of course the English institutions of HBOS, Northern Rock, Lloyds and Bradford & Bingley of course.
You should probably talk to more Scots than the half dozen in UKIP. Holyrood is light years ahead of Westmidden when it comes to transparency which is why Scots trust it more.
There are more English M.P.s aren't there? Don't vote for the big three or the SNP. They are all THE SAME. Dividing up The U.K. makes it easier to absorb into a European superstate.
UKIP are nothing more than a protest party for Little Englanders.
The area I live in has benefitted directly from major transport projects funded by the EU, although I would admit that the common agricultural and fisheries policies haven't been good, but Scottish independence would mean more influence for us.
Since Scots tend to be more European in their outlook than the rest of the UK, this makes UKIP even less relevant to Scotland than the Tories. They will be lucky to keep their deposit
The UK gets a set amount of returns from the EU that is slightly less than what we put in. However our private companies make considerably greater profits from the free trade set up than would otherwise be the case. The UK still does better than most countries because the poorer countries recieving more cash also recieve competition from much larger British/German/French companies. And 6% of a 31% turnout means that you had the support of less than 2% of the Scottish electorate - well done!
If UKIP are good for Scotland, then why are they the only party on the ballot paper that has parachuted in a candidate living in England? The 6th person on UKIP's list lives in Essex.
UKIP may do well in England and I say good luck to them down there in whatever they achieve, but surely they can't be taken seriously in Scotland and will probably come a poor 7th behind the Greens and Scottish Socialists.
Would UKIP support an independent Scotland if it meant England could leave the EU?
U.K.I.P.are NOT little Englanders. There are, sadly people like that with anti Scottish/ anti union tendencies. But U.K.I.P are a U.K. wide party and support unity. The little Englanders are those who want to "get rid" of Scotland for what they see as economic reasons. They are an insignificant force and U.K.I.P.always thrash them in by elections.
Agreed mate, they should make an "Ignorance party" for all the Separatists or supposed "unionists" who really don't give a damn about anything but their own well being.
To be British and to support the Union in the correct way is to defend the rights of every person of every nation inside the Union, Provide them with what they need, safety and equal rights/opportunities. Destroy the Union and we might as well just hand ourselves over to someone else who really doesn't give a shit.
'We're against any country being dictated to by a corrupt, unrepresentative, out of date parliament which resides in another country - unless that said corrupt parliament resides in England'.
No, we are saying that the people of Britain are overgoverned by corrupt parliaments in Westminster, Holyrood and whatever they call the palace of hot air in Wales.
On top of this, to have yet another layer of distant, unaccountable, unworkable and unrepresentative Politicians at a European level is adding more bullshit to the manure pile.
UKIP have a very fair and elegant solution which does away with the need for these superfluous layers if you've ever bothered to look it up.
read the telegraph under britan wants break up
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
what is the ukip doing for the inderpendance of scotland thats right nothing ukip r just like the bnp without the bad image
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago 3
@MrScottishJamie They are doing far more than the SNP who would love to follow the Republic of Ireland into economic oblivion and join the Euro....
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
@ukipwebmaster as thought just like the bnp another engish party . SNP will make sure we ditch uk and well maybe its upto the scots to decide that once we r independent we will have our own election this while immigrants out thing and the euro is bad is mainly just english not many r like that in scotland
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
@MrScottishJamie Have you actually read the SNP manifesto?
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
@ukipwebmaster of coarse i have the way scotland gets treated its criminal more and more people r voting yes toindependence the problem is UKIP is doing nothing to seperate england and scotland and england will bring down scotland with it building all these new nukes called trident look it up trident
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
@MrScottishJamie I don't know where you get your figures from but polls show that most Scots want to be part of the UK.
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
@ukipwebmaster last time i checked snp won in 2007 and a lot of polls r showing independance vote yes is going up it was low earlier if snp dont save scotland . scotland will become a nuclear waste land because of all these nuclear subs and missles. vote snp stop the nukes
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
@MrScottishJamie Are you SNP or CND and is there any difference?
ukipwebmaster 9 months ago
@ukipwebmaster CND is a no nukes protest
MrScottishJamie 9 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Really? Well thanks for letting us know......
ukipwebmaster 9 months ago
Hospitals are not important ? what as ass
MrFarmer86 1 year ago
you lot are pathetic.
you can't even cope with open comments on youtube.
tickleperson2 1 year ago
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CountryQuestion 2 years ago 2
Hmmmm....... This is posted by a person who has the Prime Mentalist's, (Gordon Brown) speech to the Labour Party on his page.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
@CountryQuestion What EVIDENCE can you find to refute anything that Peter Adams says?
britishfirstandlast 2 years ago
the snp should b ashamed for freeing a terrorist! and they say they put scotland first. what a joke!
thatcheritescot 2 years ago
A terrorist who was forced to drop his appeal? Don't be so naive. It's highly unlikely he was even really behind the attack. He was a fall guy.
seraduha1 2 years ago 8
@thatcheritescot
thatcherite scot?
you must be the only one mate.
tickleperson2 1 year ago
@tickleperson2 And how much of Gordon's bill will you be paying off?????
ukipwebmaster 1 year ago
Sorry, but this misses the point.
UKIP are irrelevant in Scotland, because they argue for more devolved powers for the UK (Westminster government) as opposed to European government... ie, smaller government is better....
.... but at the same time argue that Bigger government is better (UK government) as opposed to Holyrood government???
You can only butter your bread on one side UKIP... either more devolved powers or Less devolved powers?
...You cannot have your Cake and eat it !!!
BongoBrido 2 years ago
If you actually bother to read our West Lothian answer and constitutional settlement you will see that what we propose is entirely fair not just for Scotland but for England and Wales as well. On the plus side it reduces the number of politicians and costs the taxpayers far less.
It seems to me the ones who are having their cake and eating it are the SNP.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
I take it you are English, because no Scot could have less of an affection or opinion that we should not simply run our own affairs.
If you are a Scot, then you should be ashamed of your lack of confidence in your own people.
BongoBrido 2 years ago
I am a Scot but unlike the SNP socialists I don't have a chip on my shoulder and I realised a long time ago that along with New Labour they have dragged Scotland down into becoming a dependency nation. Making Scotland a region of the EU is the endgame for them from which there is no escape.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
I don't understand your point.... as a UKIP support surely you believe in freetrade and friendship with your neighbours, not political union?
As I'm sure you know, the whole mantra of your party is the belief that countries should run themselves for the benefit of their own people.
... yet why then are you more than happy for Scotland to be run almost entirely by the union parliament in England where more than 90% of the MPs are non-Scots?!!
Your position doesn't make any sense to me.
maxfm82 2 years ago
Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling, David Cameron...... The list goes on. We are being ruined by Scottish politicians and we should be the ones with a grudge. There is a much stronger case for England leaving the union and letting Scotland and Wales get on with it and when the subsidies dry up perhaps they will follow the lessons of Adam Smith?
If the majority of Scots wanted independence then no one is standing in their way but polls have shown they are for the UK.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
I see you use the 'we' as in you and English - have you changed your nationality in the last week?
But - if you're really Scottish, I'm interested in your position.... why are you principally opposed to a political union which sees your country run from Belgium, but are happily promoting a political union which see your country run from England?!
.... unless I'm missing something it's simply not a logical argument!
maxfm82 2 years ago
'We' as in British and there is no point in going round in circles with you. I suggest you move on.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
i am a ukip memebr and as i understand it each nation in the union would have its own assembly run by its current westminster mps, and each would debate its own devolved matters so in reality there is smaller gov and more devoloution for all in the union. and seeing as we are all about the people deciding we would not have a problem with facilitating a refarendum on scotland leaving the union if they so wished i dont see why so many scots have a problem with our modle of gov ?
rulebritannia1 2 years ago
maxfm82, I completely agree with you. UKIP is simply not relevant to Scotland... it's only relevant to the English lack of self identity.
They believe in smaller more local government... except in the case of Scotland for some reason!
BongoBrido 2 years ago
I guess when Mel Gibson does Boadicea in drag the English will find their 'identity' and join the victim classes..............
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Do you honestly think that you are going to get anywhere in Scotland coming away with drivel like that? Or do you just aspire to be a looney fringe group?
Do you think Scots, who may potentially vote for your party are going to be swayed by broad brush insults and rhetoric like that?
Still, I suppose UKIP should be congratulated on at least saying what they think about the Scots - unlike the slippery Tories who think exactly the same but still want our money and votes.
globaltraveller 2 years ago
Being half Scottish with a full sense of humour I certainly won't lose any sleep about 'lost' votes.
Labour won a by election in a very deprived area of Glasgow recently.
It's been under Labour control for years yet they still keep voting for their masters to keep them in this state.
The penny never drops for certain Scottish voters, but they're free to vote for collective suicide if they wish to.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Yes, I can definitely see that you would need to have a sense of humour to campaign for UKIP in Scotland. But such a cavalier attitude to potential votes and voters doesn't usually get you anywhere.
Unfortunately the Labour stranglehold on parts of West-Central Scotland (eg Glasgow North East) will take a lot of time to remove. Just like it will for the very deprived, run down constituencies of Northern England and the English Midlands where the Labour party have a similar stranglehold.
globaltraveller 2 years ago
They said UKIP wouldn't get anywhere in Wales and we now have our first MEP and local councillors.
The other striking fact about Glasgow was that the majority couldn't get off their backsides to vote and the SNP lost big time.
If this says one thing it's that breaking up the United Kingdom is not something that appeals to the majority of the Scottish people.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
One things for sure if the SNP are able to mislead the people of Scotland into independence, Scotland will surrender many of the powers it gains from Wesminister straight to Brussels.
People need to understand that the SNP would join the euro, this has huge implications for Scottish business especially as England (Scotlands main trading partner) wont be joining.
How the SNP think their interests will be looked after more by the ECB and Brussels i dont know :\
BritishDefender 2 years ago 2
And under the Lisbon treaty North Sea Oil will be a common European Energy resource.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Thats another thing where the SNP lie to the people. They go on and on about how if they were independent they would be rich like Norway.
What they fail to tell the people of Scotland is Norway only manages to make the money it does from its oil wealth because they have state owned energy companies, something only possible because they are not a member of the European Union.
The SNP need to choose do they want to be like Ireland with the Euro or like Norway with its oil.. they cant have both
BritishDefender 2 years ago
@BritishDefender
maybe if you knew more about scotlands treatment under succesive thatcherite governments you would understand why people might not see westminster as a better ally than the eu.
tickleperson2 1 year ago
It is true that Scotland is over-governed.
Getting rid of that corrupt, malignant influence that Westminster would be a start.
Then Scotland would have the true freedom to decide whether Scotland (and Scotland alone) should be part of the EU or not.
Being rid of the UK, is a far more important consideration at this juncture in time.
globaltraveller 2 years ago
"Getting rid of that corrupt, malignant influence that Westminster would be a start"
Yes, the very same Westminster which is ruled by Scotsmen like Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling who have screwed the UK economy whilst propping up RBS to protect their political patronage north of the border?
Most of the Scots I speak to hate Holyrood for the very same reasons. If you want the 'West Lothian Answer' and a fair solution to over-government look it up on the UKIP site.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Perhaps it has just been my own cognisance, but hasn't it mainly English MPs who've had their corrupt snouts buried deepest into the Westminster trough of pork?
"... whilst propping up RBS.."
Conveniently not mentioning of course the English institutions of HBOS, Northern Rock, Lloyds and Bradford & Bingley of course.
You should probably talk to more Scots than the half dozen in UKIP. Holyrood is light years ahead of Westmidden when it comes to transparency which is why Scots trust it more.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 2
Answer to first question:
Yes, it has just been your own 'cognisance'.
Second answer;
Northern Rock is another Labour fiefdom and I suggest you research how relatively healthy banks were forced to come to the aid of RBS.
Third answer.
Being part Scottish I have many friends in Scotland who are fed up with Holyrood and the SNP.
It really is time the SNP are revealed for what they are; socialists in tartan drag who don't give a flying fig about Scotland.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
There are more English M.P.s aren't there? Don't vote for the big three or the SNP. They are all THE SAME. Dividing up The U.K. makes it easier to absorb into a European superstate.
britishfirstandlast 2 years ago 2
UKIP are nothing more than a protest party for Little Englanders.
The area I live in has benefitted directly from major transport projects funded by the EU, although I would admit that the common agricultural and fisheries policies haven't been good, but Scottish independence would mean more influence for us.
Since Scots tend to be more European in their outlook than the rest of the UK, this makes UKIP even less relevant to Scotland than the Tories. They will be lucky to keep their deposit
akava77 2 years ago 2
"The area I live in has benefited directly from major transport projects funded by the EU"
Thick or what? Where do you think that money comes from. It's UK taxpayers money that they hand back to us if they feel like it.
"UKIP are nothing more than a protest party for Little Englanders"
What does that make the SNP; a protest party for Wee Scots?
"They will be lucky to keep their deposit"
We are the 4th largest party in the UK at the moment. and got over 6 percent in Scotland last time.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
The UK gets a set amount of returns from the EU that is slightly less than what we put in. However our private companies make considerably greater profits from the free trade set up than would otherwise be the case. The UK still does better than most countries because the poorer countries recieving more cash also recieve competition from much larger British/German/French companies. And 6% of a 31% turnout means that you had the support of less than 2% of the Scottish electorate - well done!
saintee1000 2 years ago
"slightly less than what we put in"
The net figure we get back of our own money is a lot less than we put in. Google Gerard Batten - The cost of the EU
"make considerably greater profits from the free trade set up than would otherwise be the case"
The EU is a restricted trading area which places barriers on the UK trading globally.
"6% of a 31% turnout"
Glad you mentioned this. What % did the SNP get and using your method what is their support & how many Scots actually voted for Holyrood?
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
If UKIP are good for Scotland, then why are they the only party on the ballot paper that has parachuted in a candidate living in England? The 6th person on UKIP's list lives in Essex.
UKIP may do well in England and I say good luck to them down there in whatever they achieve, but surely they can't be taken seriously in Scotland and will probably come a poor 7th behind the Greens and Scottish Socialists.
Would UKIP support an independent Scotland if it meant England could leave the EU?
akava77 2 years ago
U.K.I.P.are NOT little Englanders. There are, sadly people like that with anti Scottish/ anti union tendencies. But U.K.I.P are a U.K. wide party and support unity. The little Englanders are those who want to "get rid" of Scotland for what they see as economic reasons. They are an insignificant force and U.K.I.P.always thrash them in by elections.
britishfirstandlast 2 years ago 2
Agreed mate, they should make an "Ignorance party" for all the Separatists or supposed "unionists" who really don't give a damn about anything but their own well being.
To be British and to support the Union in the correct way is to defend the rights of every person of every nation inside the Union, Provide them with what they need, safety and equal rights/opportunities. Destroy the Union and we might as well just hand ourselves over to someone else who really doesn't give a shit.
BritGBM 2 years ago
So basically.... UKIP are saying to Scotland
'We're against any country being dictated to by a corrupt, unrepresentative, out of date parliament which resides in another country - unless that said corrupt parliament resides in England'.
proudofmycountry1989 2 years ago
No, we are saying that the people of Britain are overgoverned by corrupt parliaments in Westminster, Holyrood and whatever they call the palace of hot air in Wales.
On top of this, to have yet another layer of distant, unaccountable, unworkable and unrepresentative Politicians at a European level is adding more bullshit to the manure pile.
UKIP have a very fair and elegant solution which does away with the need for these superfluous layers if you've ever bothered to look it up.
ukipwebmaster 2 years ago
Our own Union or the corrupt European Union? Don't vote for the big three or the SNP. (They are all E.U. puppets.)
bossendenwoodconvict 2 years ago 2
good vid
the snp is pretty irrelevant if all our powers go to brussels
therhythmicmenace 2 years ago 2