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  • Why is it FGM only occurs among Muslims and not other religions? 

  • @AntiFascist2011 FGM predates Islam. Islam is not the only religion to practice FGM. It happens in certain parts of Africa by Christians (but is not common), I think it is also practiced in certain parts of India (off of the top of my head).

  • Those who shrug off genital mutilation as a 'cultural difference' should consider the fact that it is almost always done without the victim's consent, often when they are babies. Try having your genitals violently ripped from you, and see how 'culturally appropriate' you think it is.

  • Mangina

  • as a scientist myself, i could never support the anti-science agendas of feminism.

  • sorry, but i stopped listening at 1:48 - 1:54 when you implied that female circumcision is promoted by men.

    this is blatantly incorrect. men have an obsession with the clitoris (and women's genitals in general) and certainly wouldn't want them mutilated. surely you know this, being a man yourself?

    btw, do you have a video on male genital mutilation too, or do you not consider that to be a problem?

  • @33LB Of course it is promoted by men they are patriarchal societies and if you are unable to understand that then I do not know what to say to you.

    I do not have a video about male male circumcision, but I consider it to be wrong. But that being said, the removal of the Clitoris is worse than male circumcision. For it to be comparable the head of the penis would have to be chopped off.

  • @29harveydinio but feminists also claim that europe and north america are patriarchal societies. yet, i live in the UK, and i wouldn't want anyone's clitoris being removed. i like to think that women actually enjoy being nailed, you know? if you watch porn (as all men do), you will know that lesbian videos are popular among straight men because of the emphasis on female pleasure. clearly, men have an obsession with "lady parts", so i don't see how men would want a woman's genitals mutilated.

  • @33LB Do you know anything about the culture's that FGM is practised in? Do you have no idea of 'Honour' culture in which the 'Honour' of a society, tribe or family is in encapsulated in the female body? The reason why the Clitoris is removed is to deaden sexual desire and thus making it more unlikely that any shame would be brought on to the aforementioned family by sexual experimentation.

    And no, I do not watch Pornography because it is degrading and nothing like real sex.

  • @29harveydinio feel free to criticise cultures in which FGM is promoted. but stop blaming it on men. blaming all of women's problems on men is lazy, scape-goat thinking, which too many feminists are guilty of.

    porn is degrading? it depends on what you're watching, but the videos i watch aren't "degrading". how is sex degrading, and who is being degraded? if it IS degrading, then don't people have a right to choose to be degraded, in exchange for money?

  • @33LB The Culture is patriarchal, do you know what that means? But I forgot we men are poor oppressed creature's and if it was not for those damn feminists speaking about patriarchy and objectification we could rule the world *Shakes fist at the sky*. Stop talking like men are so oppressed you sound foolish when you do it and especially when talking about FGM.

    I don't really want to have a debate about pornography because it is irrelevant to the video.

  • @29harveydinio is "patriarchal" just a one-size-fits-all criticism which feminists attach to any culture, or ideology, which they don't like, in the same way they use the word "sexist"? the problem with attributing FGM to "patriarchal" societies is that the practice is completely absent in other so-called "patriarchal" societies such as europe and north america. so clearly the problem is with their specific culture, and not the "patriarchy". *facepalm*

  • @33LB That comment is *Head Desk*. Go and whine on a Men Rights video about how bad those feminists are. Heaven forbid you actually have a moment of introspection and actually think about what they are saying. I am done with you, I am not going to keep arguing about petty bullshit with you, you oppressed little snow flake.

  • @29harveydinio good one. except i am not a men's rights activist, as i do not visit any men's rights websites, i have never read a book on men's rights, nor do i belong to any men's rights group. i have, however, read a couple of feminist books and viewed a range of feminist videos on youtube, and found myself disgusted at the bigotry and hypocrisy of feminism.

    do forgive me for being a fair, rational, human being in favour of equality, and not a feminist bigot.

  • @29harveydinio btw, isn't this the university term at the moment? shouldn't you be busy with your "women's studies" assignments?

  • @29harveydinio and also, stop putting words in my mouth. i never said men should rule the world, i just have a problem with feminists holding men and women to different standards, and never taking interest in men's issues, while claiming to be a gender equality movement.

    obviously, FGM is a problem, but not in western society. the countries in which FGM occurs have all sorts of bizarre problems which should hopefully fade away as education and wealth improve.

  • @29harveydinio and btw, i should add that i do actually agree with your fundamental point that germaine greer is a moral coward. i must also add that's she's a bigot, an ignoramus, and a pseudo-intellectual, and the fact that her books have been taken seriously is actually quite frightening.

  • @29harveydinio btw, although female circumcision is more serious, in principle, they are the same problem- both practices result in irreversible changes to the genitals, resulting in a loss of pleasure. thus, you can't take a hard stance against one with taking a hard stance against the other.

    so you're going to get working on that male circumcision video soon, right? im sure you will, since you seem to be a strong advocate of gender equality.

  • @33LB No I won't be making a video on male circumcision any time soon. There are loads of video's on it, you should do a simple search if you are interested about the subject or even better make a video yourself.

  • This video is spot on.

  • @matprithellodave Thank you :-)

  • Genital mutilation of females AND males is unnecessary brutality.

  • I am not sure you understand what Germaine is saying. I do not think she is supporting female genital mutilation. And I notice you have a sort of hyterical hatred tone in your voice that makes me think you have your own serious issues.

  • Feminism was a political movement, it had nothing to do with this silly notion of "women's liberation"

  • ...this form of child abuse cannot be compared to any form of elective body alteration an adult woman may choose to undergo, no matter how distasteful Germaine Greer might find it. 

  • I am a fan of alot of GG's work but I have to agree with this video. I think Germaine used the example of FGM to show how much she deplores what she considers the absurdity of some western cultural practices. I don't think condones FGM itself, but she sees a parallel with things women do to themselves over here that are considered normal. However, I find this an incredibly offensive and ill-judged analogy considering the suffering endured by the little girls who undergo FGM

  • @WonderWoman200290 yes, I agree with much of what you said in your comment. I think the analogy is highly offensive and strikes me as nothing more than moral equivalence so she does not have to make a judgement which would be seen as "cultural imperialism". pfft to that.

  • @29harveydinio Indeed. I think it is very easy and very dangerous to get over philisophical about such matters when all one really needs (escpecially women) is a bit of empathy. If any woman was forced to make the choice between wearing a bra and high heels or getting infibulated i think we know which they would chose. Fail GG, embarassing fail.

  • oh, please. I've seen plenty of mutilated penises during my time in the US. Even worse, in the year 2011, my friends are will go ahead and mutilate their male child when it is born! Why is your focus on Greer who looks on these issues from philosophical and cultural standpoint? I'm sure that Greer does not support genital mutilation - read her work.

  • What pages in the book "the whole woman" are you quoting from? i've read bits of it, so just wanted to see the quotes in their original context. All the best

  • @alecmoors I can give you a chapter, unfortunately my friend has borrowed my copy. The chapter is called "mutilation". She tries to trivalise the matter by discussing it in line with male circumcision and western notions of beauty. I disagree with her approach to this profoundly, and she does not want to criticise it because it is of another "culture". I hope that helps.

  • @29harveydinio The Whole Woman has alot of good stuff in it but when I read the "Mutilation" chapter I was yelling at the book for suggesting that FGM is as much a "choice" as genital piercings. Bollocks. FGM is an involuntary cultural ritual in which the girl has no choice, no matter if it is performed with anaesthetic and sterile instruments, or if the labia of a fully concious child is crudely hacked off with a rusty razor blade. the principal remains the same.

  • Fuck that indeed :D

  • I am an Australian. Most of us regard Greer's move to the UK as good riddance. Her laissez-faire attitude to women who are oppressed by barbaric cultural practices emanating from the Middle East and Africa, under the banner of Islam, is an egregious betrayal and an utter disgrace. The cultural relativist Left has lost its mind and its morality.

    Your video is a forceful condemnation of Greer's intellectual and moral cowardice, and I congratulate you on it.

  • @kristonuovo Thank you very much for your kind comments. I completely agree with what you say. The likes of Greer deserve to be totally discredited for their awful opinions.

  • Its funny really - this women claims to be an anarchist yet she believes in censorship and inequality. Not only coward, but an inconsistent one as well.

  • Do you yourself identify as a feminist may I ask?

    I agree with what you've stated and analyzed here, and as a feminist activist I am appalled by what I've just discovered about Germaine Greers opinions on such anti-woman and barbaric "cultural" practices!

    Very insightful, really glad I found this!

  • Do you yourself identify as a feminist may I ask?

    I agree with what you've stated and analyzed here, and as a feminist activist I am appalled by what I've just discovered about Germaine Greers opinions on such anti-woman and barbaric "cultural" practices!

    Very insightful, really glad I found this!

  • @alomas01 I would not apply the label to myself as a "feminist", if I had to apply a label to myself it would be a "humanist". I find the suffering of women repugnant and it appals me when western academics excuse barbarism all in the name of "culture". I am glad you enjoyed the video.

  • This woman is an arsehole. She'll happily turn a blind eye to the outright injustices endured by women in other countries on the grounds of cultural differences. If we followed that logic, women would still not have the right to vote in the UK.

    She's a 'feminist' who doesn't want to dirty her hands with the real problems.

  • @AimbotCity I am glad you liked the video. I plan to do more video's tearing down these pseudo academics apologising for barbarity. So stay tuned. Thanks for your comment.

  • Germaine Greer is the basis of this character here watch?v=kxzCupLAsfo

    Very good first video, just earned yourself a sub

  • I like your video, mate!

    Keep it up!

  • Germaine Greer defends genital mutilation?!? Never knew that!

    6:54, "It's certainly not true to say that we can write books about anything we please. We can't." How can she say that? I agree with you, in the light of those pronouncements about how Salman Rushdy should apologize, she is a pseudo-intellectual, and a coward!

  • wow great vid. pls do more and u will get many many subs

  • @marcarmstrong88 Thanks. I will do, I have a video I am currently making on freedom of speech. I hope you will enjoy it.

  • Germaine Greer has been Irrelevant to intelligent debate from 5 minutes after any one gave her a good review for the Female Eunuch since then she has only chosen to be controversial and contrary, her views must spin like a top. I'm  sure sometimes she she probably can't remember what side of an argument shes on

  • Yep Germaine Greer is pretty weird. Nice vid.

  • Since when is murder allowed to be called culture?

    Religion is a way of governing people.. it is a faith law.. it isn't culture,

    it only reflects culture because of the areas where it has become a tradition.

  • I'm not a fan of either Germaine Greer or Ayaan Hirsi Ali for different reasons.

    I agree that there's no, absolutely no reason that a FEMINIST should take a cultural relativist approach to any subject regarding the oppression of women.

    Thats the whole ideological problem that many western feminists have, they think its all about THEM, not all women.

  • This is a good video. There is a real problem of false moral equivalences and carving to bullies. It's basically saying that Nazis going after authors who publish dissenting ideas were right and the people who publish dissenting ideas should apologize and should not risk retribution.

    No, retribution is to be rejected. That is simply morality. Anything else is indeed immoral. I wouldn't call that position moral cowardess, I would call it opposed to moral judgment.

  • @socrates856 Thanks for the comment. I pretty much agree with what you said concerning the "moral judgment" aspect. But I think it is also has to do with fear, that is why people cave to bullies. It is this fear which I call cowardly, instead of standing your ground and facing down the bully. Germaine Greer says we should submit to the bullies way of thinking. To me this reasoning is suicidal.

  • @29harveydinio Fair enough. Fear is definitely a component, and in fact no small component at all.

  • I as a feminist and lesbian that circumcision is great!

    Circumcised woman are at least no lustobject!

  • @JosLutgens I hope that is sarcasm!

  • Germaine Greer is a bloody disgrace.

  • I agree FUCK that!

  • Crappy vid, you got a no true scotsman in there and attack here for the quite rational statement that noone should die for a book...you go first.

    Well her stance on genital mutilation sucks but that doesnt improve your vid.

  • @Shikami42 What is "rational" about censoring books because of intimidation by thugs? All over rights come from the freedom to think and speak. So yes standing up for freedom of expression is a worthy cause to die for. I would happily give my life defending freedom of speech. But I suspect you agree with the censoring of the Danish Cartoon's don't you, after all no should die for a cartoon.

    Any feminist who defends FGM is not a feminist by definition. They would be defending patriarchy.

  • @29harveydinio It is not rational to censor. It is rational to defend freedom of speach. If you wanna die for anything you go ahead. I´d rather live and fight.

  • Very well put together video.

    Ive managed to add a couple of bits to my 'Reasons I hate Germaine Greer list'

    You just got another sub.

  • @XXWhambarXX thanks for the sub. I despise Germaine Greer.

  • Excellent vid.

  • People who excuse the abuse of others because of culture or religion piss me right off. People who say we should mind our own business because it's happening in another country piss me right off. Genital mutilation is wrong, whether it happens to little girls in africa or little baby boys in america, it is wrong.

    Ayaan Hirst Ali is an excellent feminist and human being, and deserves more attention. Good video.

  • Wow. I need to formulate a good response to this. I'm not incredibly familiar with Greer. I've just continually heard about her in snippets.

  • @AuntieDiana1969 Diana you should read her book, 'The Whole Women' and her chapter on mutilation, it is disgusting. I hoped you liked the vid Diana.

  • @29harveydinio If it's true that she think FGM is something we shouldn't be concerned with then I'm dead against that. I really like the fact that you started the video saying that you're not attacking her because she's a feminist but because some of her ideas. I think FGM is wrong. Period. I don't know much about her. That's why I don't have much to say, yet.

  • I just gave you a shoutout. Awesome start man. A lot of people never get this good.

  • Excellent first video! and yeah, fuck that bitch! Thumbed up, favorited and featured with autoplay!

  • @LordClydeofOMAR Thanks Clyde I appreciate it.

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