Karl XII was actually shot in the head with a button from a soldiers coat. It's still debated if it was a norwegian or one of Karl's own men who shot him due to being tired of the constant fighting.
Karl XII was actually shot in the head with a button from a soldiers coat. It's still debated if it was a norwegian or one of Karl's own men who shot him due to being tired of the constant fighting.
Okey everyone, just wanted to tell you that Karl the 12th died in Norway at the fort Fredriksten, just outside oslo, he was hit in the left side of his head by a small iron bullet from an enemy canister shot, he was very unlucky, I live in sweden so im pretty sure thats correct, but new research is still made. BTW Thanks for the great tactics mate, keep em coming! :D
@DoooDoooDo Sina knän hade han dragit upp så att fötterna låg ungefär en meter ovanför bottnen på graven. Kungen hade sin vänstra hand under kindbenet. Den nya approchen gick i spetsig vinkel mot löpgraven, och de soldater som arbetade närmast kunde se kungens huvud ovanför bröstvärnet. Carlberg ansåg denna omständighet vara viktig att konstatera. Carlberg ställde sig bland officerarna kring kungen. När han stått där knappa femton minuter, träffades kungen av en kula (typ av okänd).
@DoooDoooDo som kom från vänster och slog rakt igenom huvudet. Kungens hand gled ned från kinden, och huvudet sjönk sakta ned i kappan. Kungen blev liggande helt orörlig, lika still som tidigare. Ingen av dem som stod nere i löpgraven kunde avgöra om stället varifrån skottet kom låg på längre eller kortare håll, eftersom det sköts starkt med både kanoner och handgevär, säger Carlberg
@Brajagare Alldeles så har jag också läst att det gick till. I Herman Linqvist historie epos står det också att någon officer rådde kungen att vara försiktig varvid han svarade. "Var inte rädda".
The tactic you talk about was in sweden called the "gå på taktik. Wich means like just go on or something like that. They attackt more in column than in lines. They made holes in the enemylines and rolled them up. The cavalry was knee by knee on their horses and fired 1 shot at close range then they grab their swords and did that gå på tactic. Nice video btw.
He died alone, no one was close enough to hear him utter anything. Theres only one witness who actully saw him get hit, same person also heard the thud of the bullet, "like a stone was thrown in the mud". The knee to knee tactics was only used when charging other cavallery units
@DoooDoooDo Yes the knee to knee tactic was mostly used agaisnt other cavalery but also againts infantery. The kolonn tactic was always used. And when Karl Xll died he was looking what the enemy was up to (dont know the word) and not alone. Several witness told him to be carefull and the answer was "Dont be afraid" or something like that.This is what ive learned from historybooks but maybe the authors have different opinions. After all it was almost 300 years ago. So maybe you are right. =)
hope i am right, coz its very difficult to use the rapier against footsoldiers in that manor (even if the mixture was, every second armed with rapier, every second armed with pistol, left/right hand, depending what side of the wedge placed, all according to the issued rules 1685 by carl XI) , prefared tactics against infantery was with a gap of 1,5 to 2 meter, that let the rapier swing free (says dooodooodo, who tried both tactics in RL)
wrong wrong wrong. Karl XII was shot by a grapeshot from a norweigan canon 18-22mm, if a Norweigan had one of his button they should not hit him with it on 625meters with a musket. To save a button to shot one man of 10 000 mens is not real, how could they know that this man was Karl XII
@Brajagare He was shot trough the head by a sniper. Look at his skull, ofcourse they know its him cause they can still see his face and his clothes. He didnt checkout the frontlines himself.
@anttonoo Its impossible to see who is who on 600 meters Karl was wearing a blue coath as the soldiers. and a sniper? do u think its the 20-sentury. A soldier couldnt aim in the musket just point cause the spark of the muskets flintlock. Have u seen the patriot or soverign servant, the soldiers are always turning their face away, Mythbusters tried a musket and jamie missed on 30 meters a watermelon
Carl XII was probebly killed by a "fullmetaljacket" bullet, from a flintlock with reduced charge and fired from 10-15 meters. with other words, by his own people ( assasinator hired by Fredrick of Hessen and the Swedish riksdag)
Åtta-tio officerare stod nedanför kungens fötter och höll honom sällskap. Kungen var på gott humör och talade om allehanda saker. Mörkret hade fallit . Brinnande beckkransar från fästningen lyste upp terrängen. Man sköt på svenskarna från fästningen, och ljuskulor flög genom luften. När löjtnant Carlberg kom in i löpgraven, såg han När löjtnant Carlberg kom in i löpgraven, såg han kungen ligga på vänster sida med kappan om sig.
Det kommer aldrig att bevisas om kulan kom från dom egna eller från fästningen. För min del tror jag att med metallskrot flygandes hit och dit är det en tidsfråga innan du blir träffad om du har huvudet ovanför skyttegravens kant. Kanske Karl Xll också visste det men inte brydde sig så mycket.
@loch70 Jo, det är helt klart det du säger Loch70, men man måste betänka vad som hände efteråt och vad för slags politiska omständigheter som föriggich. Bla. justitiemordet på Götz (som skulle ha förhandlat fram en separatfred med Peter den store och var på väg till karl XII med beskedet. Han arresterades och isolerades omedelbart vid ankomsten och avrättades utan laglig grund)
Fredrik gottorp-holstein (den rättmätige arvtagaren till kronan), gifte sig med tsar peters dotter 1722.
ingångshålet var 19 mm (officerskaliber) utgångshålet 100 mm, avstånden till närmaste fiende/fästningen var förhållandevis långt, tvivelaktigt om en bit metalskrot skulle kunna ha tillräckligt momentum kvar för att kunna tränga igenom kraniet på båda sidor, men man skall inte säga inte. Fortfarande lutar det åt lönnmord och en har ju redan erkänt: Fredrik av Hessens adjutant
@DoooDoooDo Enligt gällande lag skulle bara Ulrica ärva kronan om hon förblev ogift, annars skulle Fredrik av gottorp-holstien ärva kronan i egenskap av Karl XII systerson. Men i en överenskommelse med dåvarande riksdagen, blev Ulrica "vald" till Drottning, med förbehållet att hon avsa sig enväldet. Ett år efter abdikerade hon till förmån för sin man: Fredrik av Hessen. Fredrik gottorp-holstein gifte sig med Tsar Peters dotter och hans son (fredrik av gottorps) efterträdde senare Peter som Tsar
@anttonoo And yes Karl XII was that kind of king who loved to fight along with the regular army. In the siege of Frederikstens fortress he was lieing in a kind of trench and should recognice the front everywear this is written check Wikipedia and factbooks
@CrownPrinceofSweden I know why, he like Napoleon at Waterloo, was very ill and incapable of directing the battle. Then his advance guard got tied down attacking the Russian entrenchments preventing the Swedes from quickly forming up outside the Russian fortifications. They were then overwhelmed by the numerically superior russians.
@UserUK201 Yes but I guess you don't know what happend BEFORE the battle, with the cav, weather, food, health and so on.. I don't have the time right know, but send me a private message if you want to.
Btw, they are going to open Karl´s grave (again! last time 1917). Using the latest technology to once and for all solve the question; was he killed at close range by a (swedish) bullet or from long range by a (norwegian) kartesch...
Karl´s personal favourite victory was the battle of Holowczyn 1708 (July 4). There the `Karoliner` defeated the russians under the commands of Boris Sjeremetiev & Alexander Mensjikov. Combined leadership wasn´t a good idea. Sweden did the same mistake at Poltava (Rehnskiöld & Lewenhaupt).
@UserUK201 They say that a book about Carl XII (cant remember if by jonatan swift or daniel defoe) was the third most translated and spread book after the bibel and christians travel. Voltaire wrote a book about him, that was long time used in french-teaching classes all over the world.. Theres probebly around 100 books wrttien about him.
Some recent documentary suggested it may have been a bullet from a kartesch. A cannister filled with roundballs for those who are unfamilliar with the term.
Unfortunately in ETW this tactic doesnt work nearly as well as it should if you try to do it like Karl XII. Once the first rank fires and you move the unit the first rank will reload and start over with the first rank firing. So as a somewhat modified version of the Karoliner I let all 3 ranks fire, reload, advance to 1/2 and let all 3 fire again before charging. Its more of a double volley Streckengeschwindigkeit than a Karoliner but a normal Karoliner doesnt work with the game mechanics.
He was 18 years old :D and in Narva k1lkenny it was about 6.000 aganst the russians total of 80.000 men but we actualy lost that fight but they lost more men then we did so.. :D:D
Depending on which decade or century you reffere to, it may be fewer or many battles won. If we compile the total won battles it's actually ALOT, people generally only know of the big ones. Alot of victories and nothing gained but wasted lives like with all wars.
And yeah, I'm quite sure Charles got hit by a Kartesch seeing how they found no evidence of led in the wound, a Kartesch could also be made out of steel balls instead of led ones which would explain the lack of led in the head wound. Though you can never be sure.
Why do you advance before reloading? Doesn't that just give the enemy more time to fire at the reduced range, rather than reloading and then advancing and then firing the second volley?
Well "Slightly outnumbered" in the Battle of Narva is kind of an understatement^^ around 10.000 vs 40.000. The Carolean tactics was all about attack, shock. First they fired a volley at c.a 50 meters, after that volley they would pretty much sprint till they were as close as 30-20 meters, they then fired their second volley after which they drew their swords (everyone was issued one) and furiously charged the enemy. This demoralized the enemy completely and would often flee before contact.
@DJLivebrant His name in english is translated into Charles XII of Sweden, just like in Swedish Karl XII av Sverige or in old Swedish; Carl XII af Sverige, or even in latin where his name is Carolus XII Rex or Carolus Rex...
Dude, jesus christ, learn some history before you start talking...
@anttonoo Lol, no! Sniping is a concealed marksman! Assassination is to murder a political, religious, or official of power with motives of interest. If you were shot by a psychopath, you weren't assassinated, unless you are in fact the pope and that psychopath wanted you dead because he hates religion, or your the president and he wants an end to your rule. Karl was assassinated by his brother in law's secretary.
@RogueRaven17 No. Assassinating is to kill someone for money often a higih profile person. Sniping is a way of killing a person from far away. Sniping is a verb so it cant be a noun which you say.
@anttonoo Assassination is never exclusively for hire-its usually to end someone's reign in office. No one hired JFK's assassin. The man who shot the pope was not paid. They chose to on their own accord. But you need to settle down about this, anttonoo. Karl is dead. It happened almost 300 years ago. He was assassinated (as best evidence describes) and that is the current supported theory. If you don't wish to accept the Historical community's stance, then that is a personal problem of yours.
@anttonoo ingen vet helt 100% vem som sköt karl den tolfte, det kan ha varigt en svensk soldat som var trött på allt krigande också, för skottet träffade honom på sidan av huvudet, och åt det hållet var bara en massa svenskar som låg i sina skyttegravar. ingen vet
Marching under enemyfire with fire dicipline. The volleys from Sweden came from maximum 30 meters. "No bullet hits the man" the general said. Cause in the end people thought that god decide who died.
well its sad that this game are not 100% realistical cause in reality. in the caroliners formation they where not 100% muskets they where a mixture of units pikemen,grenadiers and muskets. the grenadiers was at the sides and muskets was at the front with pikemen behind them..... would been awesome if they made it like this cause most other countrys only fouces on 1 time in a formation
nice vid, but yor totaly wrong about carl XII, he was one of or the best war-kings we have ever had in sweden. He allways fight with his troups, and not like standing in the backsaying what to do, no he was in the front comanding tanking some big riskes.
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Amazing huh? He is the king that lost everything. His idiotic politic with "never diplomacy, always with the sword" decimated populations all over east of Europe. He had many chanses to stop all 4 wars but chosed all or nothing. And nothing is what he walked away with in the end. And as Russia became to big he jumped Norway as some bizzarr way of getting compensated.
i use this tactic also but i use 2 grenadiers in the center then lancer or heavy calvry charge there center with one wedge calv then hit them with a wall of line pull my calvry out when the inf hit by then there line is cut in 2
Im pretty sure Karl died from the shot of a button to his head. They still cant figure out if that was a desperate shot from the russian garrison they were attacking, or a shot of revenge from his troops that had been fighting the famous "30 year" war that the swedes fought with russia and other numerous countries.
It was actually while he was inspecting the trenches during the siege of Fredriksten fortress in Halden, Norway. And it was most likely a Norwegian soldier who shoot him.
And this was in 1718 during the Great Northern war 1700-1721, the thirty years war took place between 1618-1648.
Although Sweden did participate in that war as well, and a Swedish king died in battle in that war as well.
Gustav Adolphus The Great, also known as the Lion of the North and the protector of protestantism.
The name itself comes from Karl, obviously. Although in English it would be "Caroleans", since Karl often called himself Carolus, for cultural and religious reasons. Worthless info, but just liked to state it.
The name itself, for that matter, also came from Karl XI, not just Karl XII.
The tactic wasn't really from Karl XII, it was planned from the Generallöjtnat Rehnfieldt, something like that, Karl XII modified that plan do'h, cause in Narva they almost lost beacuse of the plan didn't work, but it came ut better than expected :)
Well, kind of right :P ....in these times, if the games is right, the one who led the swedes was Carl Gustaf Armfeldt. He was Generallöjtnant or Lieutenant General yes...
Well you are correct on most part video creator, two vollys was never fired, only one. And sometimes two lines fierd, one kneeing followed by cold steel. Secondly Charles never favored artillery, whit his offensive carolines artillery wasnt requierd and he though they slowed his army down. Often the swedish artillery wasnt used at all or they just wasnt brought to the battles.
This tactic kind of tactic was first used by Gustav II Adolf but it was diffrent then Karls tactic. Gustav II Adolf (the great) tactic was about to walk up so close so you could see the white in the enemies eyes and then shot one volley (like 30 meters away) and after that just charge. But the power of that one volley would be so powerful so many enemies would run before it became a long bayonet fight.
To bad that the pike men where not effective against other infantry. The swedish army used pikes to a great extent because if their superior range over bayonets. On third of the infantry was equipped with pikes and the rest with muskeets with bayonets. The cavalry was a really important part of the army as they where used as support for the infantry to break holes in the enemy line. They fired away two pistols each just before they charged right into the enemy line. Thats around 500 rounds.
Outstanding tactical advice, historical background, commentary... All of it excellent! Even the comment threads are interesting. It really is refreshing to see a video narrated intelligently and with historical context.
hey great video. just a quick question. do all skirmishers have the ability to be invisible to the enemy while crawling slowly or is it just the Americans in the game?
Now that I think of it, the caracole was used when musketeers were still using the arquebus. By 1600, muskets became more accurate and the caracole tactic was dropped. Watch my falling line tactic vid, u'll see its kinda like the caracole.
i would just flank you :/
chaz1453 1 month ago
3.13 vad ska man göra föratt soldaterna gör så? Kan nån förklara?
xXBraxeNXx 4 months ago
@xXBraxeNXx play battle, Time, Tryck in late och inte early
GottochBlandat100 1 month ago
Why not use massed grenadiers for your front line?
That way you could use all the line for the grenades and bust a huge hole in the enemy line, sacrificing artillery to free up space.
dosFING 6 months ago in playlist etw LP's
@dosFING do that and send us a video how it went
GottochBlandat100 1 month ago
where did you find all these tactics?
LANN98 6 months ago
How did you get Grenadiers? or are you playing Campain? I can't use Grenadiers in Land Battle.
Kallefisa 1 year ago
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Karl XII was actually shot in the head with a button from a soldiers coat. It's still debated if it was a norwegian or one of Karl's own men who shot him due to being tired of the constant fighting.
Manneplutt 1 year ago
Karl XII was actually shot in the head with a button from a soldiers coat. It's still debated if it was a norwegian or one of Karl's own men who shot him due to being tired of the constant fighting.
Manneplutt 1 year ago
omg ur voice is.... :-!
TheRedSkin2009 1 year ago
Okey everyone, just wanted to tell you that Karl the 12th died in Norway at the fort Fredriksten, just outside oslo, he was hit in the left side of his head by a small iron bullet from an enemy canister shot, he was very unlucky, I live in sweden so im pretty sure thats correct, but new research is still made. BTW Thanks for the great tactics mate, keep em coming! :D
CapSicarius 1 year ago
who techead u history but nice video but dont teach wrong about sweden.
THESWEDENRULES100 1 year ago
thx man this video realy helpd me out.thx agin.
THESWEDENRULES100 1 year ago
how do u get your comp running that good. i have no other programs in my windows 7 pc and it still lags alot
how do i make my etw run faster
Anthonysoms 1 year ago
@Anthonysoms well your graphic card is not good so you need a new one
aznpokit 1 year ago
Hehe Awsome video but Karl Xll died while he was checking the Trenches at fort Fredriksten.
TheBlockPro 1 year ago
well the game isnt really taking certain things into count. The caroliner rank was so well drilled it could turn and twist on a coin
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo Sina knän hade han dragit upp så att fötterna låg ungefär en meter ovanför bottnen på graven. Kungen hade sin vänstra hand under kindbenet. Den nya approchen gick i spetsig vinkel mot löpgraven, och de soldater som arbetade närmast kunde se kungens huvud ovanför bröstvärnet. Carlberg ansåg denna omständighet vara viktig att konstatera. Carlberg ställde sig bland officerarna kring kungen. När han stått där knappa femton minuter, träffades kungen av en kula (typ av okänd).
Brajagare 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo som kom från vänster och slog rakt igenom huvudet. Kungens hand gled ned från kinden, och huvudet sjönk sakta ned i kappan. Kungen blev liggande helt orörlig, lika still som tidigare. Ingen av dem som stod nere i löpgraven kunde avgöra om stället varifrån skottet kom låg på längre eller kortare håll, eftersom det sköts starkt med både kanoner och handgevär, säger Carlberg
Brajagare 1 year ago
@Brajagare Alldeles så har jag också läst att det gick till. I Herman Linqvist historie epos står det också att någon officer rådde kungen att vara försiktig varvid han svarade. "Var inte rädda".
loch70 1 year ago
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zimz77 1 year ago
Karl ll last words was "Dont be afraid"
when some officer told him to take cover.
The tactic you talk about was in sweden called the "gå på taktik. Wich means like just go on or something like that. They attackt more in column than in lines. They made holes in the enemylines and rolled them up. The cavalry was knee by knee on their horses and fired 1 shot at close range then they grab their swords and did that gå på tactic. Nice video btw.
loch70 1 year ago
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DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@loch70
He died alone, no one was close enough to hear him utter anything. Theres only one witness who actully saw him get hit, same person also heard the thud of the bullet, "like a stone was thrown in the mud". The knee to knee tactics was only used when charging other cavallery units
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo Yes the knee to knee tactic was mostly used agaisnt other cavalery but also againts infantery. The kolonn tactic was always used. And when Karl Xll died he was looking what the enemy was up to (dont know the word) and not alone. Several witness told him to be carefull and the answer was "Dont be afraid" or something like that.This is what ive learned from historybooks but maybe the authors have different opinions. After all it was almost 300 years ago. So maybe you are right. =)
loch70 1 year ago
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Brajagare 1 year ago
@loch70
hope i am right, coz its very difficult to use the rapier against footsoldiers in that manor (even if the mixture was, every second armed with rapier, every second armed with pistol, left/right hand, depending what side of the wedge placed, all according to the issued rules 1685 by carl XI) , prefared tactics against infantery was with a gap of 1,5 to 2 meter, that let the rapier swing free (says dooodooodo, who tried both tactics in RL)
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
Charles was a great military leader, but wasn't a very competant grand strategist, especially at the end.
UserUK201 1 year ago
@OliverFFS
wrong wrong wrong. Karl XII was shot by a grapeshot from a norweigan canon 18-22mm, if a Norweigan had one of his button they should not hit him with it on 625meters with a musket. To save a button to shot one man of 10 000 mens is not real, how could they know that this man was Karl XII
Brajagare 1 year ago
@Brajagare He was shot trough the head by a sniper. Look at his skull, ofcourse they know its him cause they can still see his face and his clothes. He didnt checkout the frontlines himself.
anttonoo 1 year ago
@anttonoo Its impossible to see who is who on 600 meters Karl was wearing a blue coath as the soldiers. and a sniper? do u think its the 20-sentury. A soldier couldnt aim in the musket just point cause the spark of the muskets flintlock. Have u seen the patriot or soverign servant, the soldiers are always turning their face away, Mythbusters tried a musket and jamie missed on 30 meters a watermelon
Brajagare 1 year ago
@Brajagare it was sraphnel from a canon
59spore 1 year ago
@Brajagare
Carl XII was probebly killed by a "fullmetaljacket" bullet, from a flintlock with reduced charge and fired from 10-15 meters. with other words, by his own people ( assasinator hired by Fredrick of Hessen and the Swedish riksdag)
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo Detta är från boken Karolinerna:
Åtta-tio officerare stod nedanför kungens fötter och höll honom sällskap. Kungen var på gott humör och talade om allehanda saker. Mörkret hade fallit . Brinnande beckkransar från fästningen lyste upp terrängen. Man sköt på svenskarna från fästningen, och ljuskulor flög genom luften. När löjtnant Carlberg kom in i löpgraven, såg han När löjtnant Carlberg kom in i löpgraven, såg han kungen ligga på vänster sida med kappan om sig.
Brajagare 1 year ago
Det kommer aldrig att bevisas om kulan kom från dom egna eller från fästningen. För min del tror jag att med metallskrot flygandes hit och dit är det en tidsfråga innan du blir träffad om du har huvudet ovanför skyttegravens kant. Kanske Karl Xll också visste det men inte brydde sig så mycket.
loch70 1 year ago
@loch70 Jo, det är helt klart det du säger Loch70, men man måste betänka vad som hände efteråt och vad för slags politiska omständigheter som föriggich. Bla. justitiemordet på Götz (som skulle ha förhandlat fram en separatfred med Peter den store och var på väg till karl XII med beskedet. Han arresterades och isolerades omedelbart vid ankomsten och avrättades utan laglig grund)
Fredrik gottorp-holstein (den rättmätige arvtagaren till kronan), gifte sig med tsar peters dotter 1722.
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo
ingångshålet var 19 mm (officerskaliber) utgångshålet 100 mm, avstånden till närmaste fiende/fästningen var förhållandevis långt, tvivelaktigt om en bit metalskrot skulle kunna ha tillräckligt momentum kvar för att kunna tränga igenom kraniet på båda sidor, men man skall inte säga inte. Fortfarande lutar det åt lönnmord och en har ju redan erkänt: Fredrik av Hessens adjutant
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@DoooDoooDo Enligt gällande lag skulle bara Ulrica ärva kronan om hon förblev ogift, annars skulle Fredrik av gottorp-holstien ärva kronan i egenskap av Karl XII systerson. Men i en överenskommelse med dåvarande riksdagen, blev Ulrica "vald" till Drottning, med förbehållet att hon avsa sig enväldet. Ett år efter abdikerade hon till förmån för sin man: Fredrik av Hessen. Fredrik gottorp-holstein gifte sig med Tsar Peters dotter och hans son (fredrik av gottorps) efterträdde senare Peter som Tsar
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
@anttonoo And yes Karl XII was that kind of king who loved to fight along with the regular army. In the siege of Frederikstens fortress he was lieing in a kind of trench and should recognice the front everywear this is written check Wikipedia and factbooks
Brajagare 1 year ago
Battle of Narva
Sweden, 10.610 soldiers
Russia, 37.000-45.000 soldiers
Losses:
Sweden, 667 dead and about 1200 wounded
Russia, about 10.000-15.000 dead and 25.000-35.000 captured
emilspel 1 year ago 24
@emilspel Yeah but he lost at Poltava. Charles XII was good, better than Fredrick and possibly Marlborough, but no where near as good as Napoleon.
UserUK201 1 year ago
@UserUK201 I guess you haven't read why he lost at poltava. You can't really say who is better cuz their situations where so diffrent.
CrownPrinceofSweden 1 year ago
@CrownPrinceofSweden I know why, he like Napoleon at Waterloo, was very ill and incapable of directing the battle. Then his advance guard got tied down attacking the Russian entrenchments preventing the Swedes from quickly forming up outside the Russian fortifications. They were then overwhelmed by the numerically superior russians.
UserUK201 1 year ago
@UserUK201 Yes but I guess you don't know what happend BEFORE the battle, with the cav, weather, food, health and so on.. I don't have the time right know, but send me a private message if you want to.
CrownPrinceofSweden 1 year ago
Karl whas probably shoot by a turkish button that he himself owned!
It whas lead inside but had a exterior of brass(thus explain that there whas no lead in the wound).
Also he needed a new uniform every 2 weeks so get one of hes buttons wasent hard.
Also he whas said to be immune to lead bullets and only cud be killed by something that he had own.
The guy who shoot him whas probably Adolf Fredriks ( king after Karl's sister dident whana be queen anymore) secretary.
He also admit it
OliverFFS 2 years ago
Hermans historiaXD
carlsteen 1 year ago
Btw, they are going to open Karl´s grave (again! last time 1917). Using the latest technology to once and for all solve the question; was he killed at close range by a (swedish) bullet or from long range by a (norwegian) kartesch...
stolbova1617 2 years ago
Karl´s personal favourite victory was the battle of Holowczyn 1708 (July 4). There the `Karoliner` defeated the russians under the commands of Boris Sjeremetiev & Alexander Mensjikov. Combined leadership wasn´t a good idea. Sweden did the same mistake at Poltava (Rehnskiöld & Lewenhaupt).
stolbova1617 2 years ago
@stolbova1617 Any good books on him?
UserUK201 1 year ago
@UserUK201 They say that a book about Carl XII (cant remember if by jonatan swift or daniel defoe) was the third most translated and spread book after the bibel and christians travel. Voltaire wrote a book about him, that was long time used in french-teaching classes all over the world.. Theres probebly around 100 books wrttien about him.
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
It is unknown who shot the Swedish King, some say it came from Swedish and the other say the Norwegian shot him.
danxtur 2 years ago
Some recent documentary suggested it may have been a bullet from a kartesch. A cannister filled with roundballs for those who are unfamilliar with the term.
Tyrfingr 2 years ago
lol ''he was slightly outnumbered'' I wouls say he was outnumbered with like 30 000 xD
snoefoedd 2 years ago
Slightly outnumbered? 10.000 to 40.000
anttonoo 2 years ago
I'm not!! ():€)
IIOllOII 2 years ago
IM SWEDISH :D!!
bloodsuckern 2 years ago
@bloodsuckern
Tror du att någon bryr sig egentligen ? -.-
PoppingSanta 2 years ago
jag gör
Tupac9506 2 years ago
kul för dig
PoppingSanta 2 years ago
ME TOO!!! :D
Tupac9506 2 years ago
Unfortunately in ETW this tactic doesnt work nearly as well as it should if you try to do it like Karl XII. Once the first rank fires and you move the unit the first rank will reload and start over with the first rank firing. So as a somewhat modified version of the Karoliner I let all 3 ranks fire, reload, advance to 1/2 and let all 3 fire again before charging. Its more of a double volley Streckengeschwindigkeit than a Karoliner but a normal Karoliner doesnt work with the game mechanics.
skyshark75 2 years ago
@skyshark75
The caroliner tactics: they only fired 1 time at real close range and then charged with raipers in hand.
DoooDoooDo 1 year ago
He was 18 years old :D and in Narva k1lkenny it was about 6.000 aganst the russians total of 80.000 men but we actualy lost that fight but they lost more men then we did so.. :D:D
lindfors10 2 years ago
@Lindfors10 What? Sweden won at Narva.
Beside that victory the Battle of Holowczyn was another great victory! We didnt win many battles but when we won, we won BIG victories!
StarskySTARS 2 years ago
Depending on which decade or century you reffere to, it may be fewer or many battles won. If we compile the total won battles it's actually ALOT, people generally only know of the big ones. Alot of victories and nothing gained but wasted lives like with all wars.
Tyrfingr 2 years ago
@Starsky
Lol not many? We won every single major battle the first 9 years of the war xD
@Tyrfingr
And yeah, I'm quite sure Charles got hit by a Kartesch seeing how they found no evidence of led in the wound, a Kartesch could also be made out of steel balls instead of led ones which would explain the lack of led in the head wound. Though you can never be sure.
@lindfors10
My figures was more of a rough estimate than definite numbers, though they were no less than 8.500.
k1lkenny 2 years ago
Why do you advance before reloading? Doesn't that just give the enemy more time to fire at the reduced range, rather than reloading and then advancing and then firing the second volley?
MasterofOssus 2 years ago 4
Well "Slightly outnumbered" in the Battle of Narva is kind of an understatement^^ around 10.000 vs 40.000. The Carolean tactics was all about attack, shock. First they fired a volley at c.a 50 meters, after that volley they would pretty much sprint till they were as close as 30-20 meters, they then fired their second volley after which they drew their swords (everyone was issued one) and furiously charged the enemy. This demoralized the enemy completely and would often flee before contact.
k1lkenny 2 years ago
how fast do u need to talk?
C19owi94e 2 years ago
Haha sounds fun when non sweden people says karoliner xD= Haha låter roligt när icke svenskar säger karoliner och Karl XII xD
GameSWE 2 years ago
so pointless when someone writes it in english which we all know and then write the same shit in swedish. Ska jag skriva det på svenska???
Rowheart 2 years ago
Where's the Ga Pa at?
inspectahdeck00 2 years ago
the battle of norway. was that against the danish army?
Simo84844 2 years ago
the karoleans shot 2 times than charge
Noahwig 2 years ago
Haha, you're way off about the history stuff in this vid. All of it.
lavalampvibration 2 years ago 2
i really love your vids man. . . btw wer do you get all these tactics???
iggybooi 2 years ago
These strategy vids are great, thanks!
glacierise 2 years ago
Youre wrong there was 10.000 Swedes against about 40.000 russians. Their casualties were 16.000. Swedes casualties 600.
Karl 12th died in norway when he were checking out the front lines. He were shot trough the head by a sniper.
anttonoo 2 years ago 27
considering that Norway had crappy powder compared to the swedes at the time that's one hell of a lucky shot.
Corben667 2 years ago
they checked hes skull it was a button (you can fire almost anything from a musket).
They still don´t know who fired it but it could be a swedish soldier.
SuperPingvinen 2 years ago
haha, man, it was a norwegian outpost that shot when he stuck his head up from cover...
Rowheart 2 years ago
@anttonoo heh heh russians were always about quantity, not quality ;-)
Griesmayer 1 year ago
@anttonoo Yeh, too bad he didn't got the chance to take norway cuz if he did sweden would have all the oil they have lol.
nastdye 1 year ago
@anttonoo he got shot buy his own men
homeruu1lol 1 year ago
@homeruu1lol Or by a norweigan sniper, or by a swedish traitor, or by a stray canistister shot bullet... Noone knows.
anttonoo 1 year ago
@anttonoo Thats nothing against the Spartans. They where 300 against 600.000 they killed around 10.000 their casualties were 300.
THIS IS SPARTA !!! xD
Mrsupermuuh 1 year ago
@Mrsupermuuh
they weren't 300 in total, just as 600k is a pretty high estimate.
Don't get me wrong it was a massive and outnumbered victory. But the figures are very exagerated
lostcause78 1 year ago
@Mrsupermuuh what a lot of people dont understand is that there was only 300 spartans but there was thousands of greeks behind them the whole time
Xavier56100 1 year ago
@anttonoo If you remember, there was no sniper during these times, all the musket firing weapons were inaccurate.
It was just a lucky shot that hit our great king Charles XII of Sweden.
Morran09 1 year ago 3
@Morran09 He´s name is not f*cking charles. why do you try to translate? he´s name is Karl! great video btw!
DJLivebrant 5 days ago
@DJLivebrant His name in english is translated into Charles XII of Sweden, just like in Swedish Karl XII av Sverige or in old Swedish; Carl XII af Sverige, or even in latin where his name is Carolus XII Rex or Carolus Rex...
Dude, jesus christ, learn some history before you start talking...
Morran09 4 days ago
He was assassinated, not "sniped".
RogueRaven17 11 months ago
@RogueRaven17 Retard. So isnt sniping a type of assassination? Assassinating is to kill somoene and sniping is one way of doing it.
anttonoo 11 months ago
@anttonoo Lol, no! Sniping is a concealed marksman! Assassination is to murder a political, religious, or official of power with motives of interest. If you were shot by a psychopath, you weren't assassinated, unless you are in fact the pope and that psychopath wanted you dead because he hates religion, or your the president and he wants an end to your rule. Karl was assassinated by his brother in law's secretary.
RogueRaven17 11 months ago
@RogueRaven17 No. Assassinating is to kill someone for money often a higih profile person. Sniping is a way of killing a person from far away. Sniping is a verb so it cant be a noun which you say.
anttonoo 11 months ago
@anttonoo Assassination is never exclusively for hire-its usually to end someone's reign in office. No one hired JFK's assassin. The man who shot the pope was not paid. They chose to on their own accord. But you need to settle down about this, anttonoo. Karl is dead. It happened almost 300 years ago. He was assassinated (as best evidence describes) and that is the current supported theory. If you don't wish to accept the Historical community's stance, then that is a personal problem of yours.
RogueRaven17 11 months ago
@RogueRaven17 He was sniped
anttonoo 11 months ago
@RogueRaven17 To settle this, Assiassnations are not always for money, and sniping is just one way to assassinate somebody.
almati03 10 months ago
@anttonoo ingen vet helt 100% vem som sköt karl den tolfte, det kan ha varigt en svensk soldat som var trött på allt krigande också, för skottet träffade honom på sidan av huvudet, och åt det hållet var bara en massa svenskar som låg i sina skyttegravar. ingen vet
yamaha1678 7 months ago
Karoliner tactic was:
Marching under enemyfire with fire dicipline. The volleys from Sweden came from maximum 30 meters. "No bullet hits the man" the general said. Cause in the end people thought that god decide who died.
anttonoo 2 years ago
well its sad that this game are not 100% realistical cause in reality. in the caroliners formation they where not 100% muskets they where a mixture of units pikemen,grenadiers and muskets. the grenadiers was at the sides and muskets was at the front with pikemen behind them..... would been awesome if they made it like this cause most other countrys only fouces on 1 time in a formation
Lafladitu 2 years ago
You sound alot like Fakesagan in your video's.
kingsman565 2 years ago
SVERIGE!
swaterik1986 2 years ago 2
I enjoy watching ur videos! keep on with the great work!
nimicmo 2 years ago
nice vid, but yor totaly wrong about carl XII, he was one of or the best war-kings we have ever had in sweden. He allways fight with his troups, and not like standing in the backsaying what to do, no he was in the front comanding tanking some big riskes.
hmmhmmmmhh 2 years ago
eventhough im not swedish i say that karl XII was an amazing king he managed to defeat 4 countries at a very young age !
pheonixmon1 2 years ago 4
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Amazing huh? He is the king that lost everything. His idiotic politic with "never diplomacy, always with the sword" decimated populations all over east of Europe. He had many chanses to stop all 4 wars but chosed all or nothing. And nothing is what he walked away with in the end. And as Russia became to big he jumped Norway as some bizzarr way of getting compensated.
Galimah 2 years ago
well , poland-lithuania , russia and denmark-norway started the first war
pheonixmon1 2 years ago
He was attacked when he was 15 years old.He fight that war and he won thet war without him Sweden would'nt exist
WELOVETOFTING 2 years ago 8
yea he did thanks to his father that made the karolines but the father never see the army cuz he died before
CDDDEEU 2 years ago
Tried this tactic - It worked out pretty well :)
Me: Losses - 289
Enemy: Losses -778
Still learning, but training gives experience ;)
TheAnnoyingSwede 2 years ago
i use this tactic also but i use 2 grenadiers in the center then lancer or heavy calvry charge there center with one wedge calv then hit them with a wall of line pull my calvry out when the inf hit by then there line is cut in 2
xfvkemosx 2 years ago
Is 9000 vs 40000 slightly outnumbered?? xD
TheAnnoyingSwede 2 years ago 7
Grate vid man.
MrBlackshamrock 2 years ago
The battle of Narva was Karl's biggest and greatest victory in his life. But sligtly unummberd???
The swedes were about: 9.000
And the russians were : 30.000
Becouse of the well drilled swedes and the weather (witch was hevy rain), strait in the russians faces.
So the russians overshout the swedes whit there guns.
Panic started to break out in the 1 line of the russians ho beagan to flee back into the 2, and 3 line ho begun to shot at the fleeing 1 line.
Nikker9 2 years ago
The swedes followd the 1 line of russians and then started with the "karoliner" tactic, whitch was a slaugther of russian soldiers.
When the russians begun to flee the battle over narrow bridges the bridges colapsed and the russians drowned in the river.
The battle was a glorious victory for the swedes.
Casulties :
Sweden: 700 soldires
Russia: 12-18.000 soldiers
(somthing thats wrong whit my firs commet in that the russian force was 40.000 not 30.000.
Nikker9 2 years ago
The battle of Narva.
Sweden had 8,400 soldiers against 40.000 Russian soldiers.
The causulties on the Swedish side was 667 dead Swedes while the Russians lost 16.000.
joonte1010 2 years ago 4
Russians for some reason have a tenancy to lose many men when outnumbering the enemy. Look at the invasion of the Finns for example.
ebtricks 2 years ago 2
Invasion of the Finns? What are you talking about?
joonte1010 2 years ago
I apologize, I meant to say the invasion of Finland. It began I believe on November 30th 1939.
ebtricks 2 years ago
they lose so many men because they zerg rush
apbrit2009 2 years ago
They should build some tesla coils.
Khomradeigor 2 years ago
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recon714 2 years ago
Norge, Buttslave to denmark.
SvitjodsKrigare 2 years ago 14
I don't know why Sweden is well know. Karl XII took NOrway with force, that bitch
recon714 2 years ago
That was a great thing.
BrianScarface 2 years ago
you talk too fast, even for Americans like me
SahintheFalconet 2 years ago
"The Swedes are well built, powerful, supple, capable of enduring the hardest work, starvation and trouble. They are born warriors, full of pride..."
- Francois Voltaire, 1731
Zhyperos 2 years ago 7
Im pretty sure Karl died from the shot of a button to his head. They still cant figure out if that was a desperate shot from the russian garrison they were attacking, or a shot of revenge from his troops that had been fighting the famous "30 year" war that the swedes fought with russia and other numerous countries.
Krunkstash 2 years ago
It was actually while he was inspecting the trenches during the siege of Fredriksten fortress in Halden, Norway. And it was most likely a Norwegian soldier who shoot him.
And this was in 1718 during the Great Northern war 1700-1721, the thirty years war took place between 1618-1648.
Although Sweden did participate in that war as well, and a Swedish king died in battle in that war as well.
Gustav Adolphus The Great, also known as the Lion of the North and the protector of protestantism.
jimmyn89 2 years ago 2
man maybe you should read up on your history, you are talking about different wars with different enemies and mixing them up...
zaphr89 2 years ago 2
The name itself comes from Karl, obviously. Although in English it would be "Caroleans", since Karl often called himself Carolus, for cultural and religious reasons. Worthless info, but just liked to state it.
The name itself, for that matter, also came from Karl XI, not just Karl XII.
ScilusVacilius 2 years ago
Well good Tactic. But this doesn't seem like a Multiplayer game. Is it? Or not?
- Erwin Rommel
EmpireErwinRommel 2 years ago
He was a war king!
Not a socialist king
colt1193 2 years ago 4
The tactic wasn't really from Karl XII, it was planned from the Generallöjtnat Rehnfieldt, something like that, Karl XII modified that plan do'h, cause in Narva they almost lost beacuse of the plan didn't work, but it came ut better than expected :)
Morran09 2 years ago
Generallöjtnat Rehnskiöld var det nog :) Sry
Morran09 2 years ago
Well, kind of right :P ....in these times, if the games is right, the one who led the swedes was Carl Gustaf Armfeldt. He was Generallöjtnant or Lieutenant General yes...
SuperSmulan92 2 years ago
Well you are correct on most part video creator, two vollys was never fired, only one. And sometimes two lines fierd, one kneeing followed by cold steel. Secondly Charles never favored artillery, whit his offensive carolines artillery wasnt requierd and he though they slowed his army down. Often the swedish artillery wasnt used at all or they just wasnt brought to the battles.
tyskbulle 2 years ago
I know, but u have to take game mechanics into account.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
@tyskbulle And hi's name was KARL, not Charles.
carlsteen 1 year ago
About dieing:
I agree.
We all die some day, so when we die, we might as well die for something worth while.
wasteofspace1234 2 years ago
perfect charge right after the grenadiers
wgoos14 2 years ago
This tactic kind of tactic was first used by Gustav II Adolf but it was diffrent then Karls tactic. Gustav II Adolf (the great) tactic was about to walk up so close so you could see the white in the enemies eyes and then shot one volley (like 30 meters away) and after that just charge. But the power of that one volley would be so powerful so many enemies would run before it became a long bayonet fight.
CrownPrinceofSweden 2 years ago
nice tactic, good commentary, i especially like the historic flavour :)
managarm1349 2 years ago
Danke sehr. Das ist eine ser gute Taktik vom Ifanterie.
Immortellex 2 years ago
OI when u save a battle replay how do u replay it? lol i played rtw mtw2 but cant find how lol
H34DShOtZu 2 years ago
I'm not sure in rome or med2 but in empire, go to view replays in the total war online screen, and u'll find them there.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
@H34DShOtZu You should be able to load them from the Saved Games section
elesararwos 1 year ago
Nice video again! looks like a good tactic and I'll try to use it :D
ZnurX 2 years ago
To bad that the pike men where not effective against other infantry. The swedish army used pikes to a great extent because if their superior range over bayonets. On third of the infantry was equipped with pikes and the rest with muskeets with bayonets. The cavalry was a really important part of the army as they where used as support for the infantry to break holes in the enemy line. They fired away two pistols each just before they charged right into the enemy line. Thats around 500 rounds.
onlypeaceindeath 2 years ago
They had pikes cuz it would keep the enemy away from charging and it is effective in close combat. And yes the pikes should be more effective in ETW.
CrownPrinceofSweden 2 years ago
What do you use to record your footage?
Quentillius 2 years ago
FRAPS full version.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
Love your videos man, I have full respect for you, I watch all of your vids, and you never seem to disappoint. Thanks.
aurondud3 2 years ago
glad u like 'em
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
carl gustav got shot in the head by a buttom from a norwegian uniform cuz they didint have anything else to shoot
jakob941 2 years ago
Who?
Pinxixus 2 years ago
on the 6 juni this year will it be 300 years sens we lost the battle of poltava against the russians
blarox 2 years ago
cool vid
TheShootist1289 2 years ago
that's all very nice, but there are moments where I can't figure out what you are saying. no offense meant.
cheers
sirMucha 2 years ago
sss
Teaman711 2 years ago
hey.
Teaman711 2 years ago
Those were the days of glory. Go Sweden! Vik hädan moskoviter.
Gassebol 2 years ago 2
Outstanding tactical advice, historical background, commentary... All of it excellent! Even the comment threads are interesting. It really is refreshing to see a video narrated intelligently and with historical context.
afanofthings 2 years ago
hey great video. just a quick question. do all skirmishers have the ability to be invisible to the enemy while crawling slowly or is it just the Americans in the game?
Teaman711 2 years ago
from experience, only US long rifles and Austrian Wundbusches, I dunno if thats all but I'm pretty sure.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
lol do a vid on the proper use of a caracole! that'd be great :D!
smarzotais 2 years ago
thnx for the suggestion.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
Now that I think of it, the caracole was used when musketeers were still using the arquebus. By 1600, muskets became more accurate and the caracole tactic was dropped. Watch my falling line tactic vid, u'll see its kinda like the caracole.
AudesteFidelis 2 years ago
really nice video =D and nice tactic =D
Ryaguas 2 years ago