I don't believe in blacklists. I should have donated to Proposition 8 and I don't even live in California. Why do gays think fudge packing is an unalienable right? I could care less if people want to be gay. But I don't think they should be allowed to marry. Gays should be happy if they aren't allowed to marry. This is why I don't get too involved with politics. I don't have the patience to deal with psychotic retards. If a fag ever said anything rude to me it would be his last words.
i swear,that the next homo to stare me down and look at me like if they want to rape me,ima beat the living shit out them.ima record it,and post it on here.matter of fact,what ima do,is start recording how these fags are not right and how disrespectful and out of place they can be.
what part of not being morally alright to be gay do they not understand.i mean its wrong in so many ways,i dont even know where to start.and the worst part is,you cant walk around and be civilized with them,cuz then they want to hit on you cuz they think your 1 of them..Jesus.!!you see them here,theyll act right for the sake of the protest,but put them in a different situation.there a bunch of disrespectful fags that swear every 1 around them is gay..FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING HOMOS.!
We know that anti-gay zealots are both ignorant & mentally ill: a deadly combination. The educated among us know that being gay is perfectly normal & natural; an innate condition bestowed upon some of His children by God when He creates them to be gay. Homophobes can throw hissy fits all they want, but minority rights in this country are NOT dependent on the popular vote. If it were, blacks would still be slaves, and women would still be chattel. Gays are equal. Stop whining. Deal.
It's also UNAMERICAN to deny others (such as Mormons and other groups of Christians or whoever) the RIGHT to disagree with you. Can you say "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom of Religion"? If you want to go somewhere where there is only ONE viewpoint allowed, try Russia or the Middle East. (Good luck there.)
"You make me less of an American by denying me to marry whoever I want to..." No - what makes YOU less of an American is the fact that when an election that Americans in your state - of ALL beliefs, legally given to AMERICANS, - doesn't go your way, you feel that it doesn't COUNT. That spirit is UNAmerican. You don't like the outcome of the vote, seek to change it NEXT TIME, or move somewhere where it IS approved. Also, your response says," We want everyone to AGREE with us." NO.
@vintageyellow71 Once again, this is a Civil Rights issue. Civil rights aren't supposed to be up for a vote. This is like when interracial marriage was illegal by a vote and the Supreme Court had to overrule it. No matter what, your side will lose (it is already moving towards the side of LGBT rights).
@Photoglogal This is a Civil Rights issue. Civil rights aren't supposed to be up for a vote. This is like when interracial marriage was illegal by a vote and the Supreme Court had to overrule it. No matter what, your side will lose (it is already moving towards the side of LGBT rights).
gay ppl are cry babys they think that mormons gave money when infact they gave none. ok get over youselfs and dont take it out on christians or mormons they did nothing wrong but support the ban.
@TheToontownprincess You're crazy. It's is documented the mormons gave lots of money. Do your research before you post your stupidity for everyone to see. Go fuck yourself.
@soronery1 there are legal reasons to oppose same sex marriage, as well as the fact that many people don't like the idea of activist judges overturning the will of the people. also don't assume that someone who opposes same sex marriage are bigoted. it's a tired argument.
dude gays over exaggerate so much!!!!...they're such bitter losers!!!..it just kills him how gays think everyone who dont agree with their point of view are blind and hateful..Juss because we dont agree to their lifestyle..
Well, this was the stupidest, most homophobic video i've seen today, great! Oh, and by the way, blacklists are an extremely anti-communist thing, dumbasses, in fact, i love american people and hate blacklists but they are very common in america unfortunatly. right wing bs!
I think the videos here are selectively chosen to show upset gay marriage supporters at their worst. Honestly their behavior really has nothing to do with the issue of is gay marriage right or not. They have a right to petition their government to create legal instruments on their behalf like any other citizen. Marriage as far as the government is concerned is a legal instrument like a Will or Power of Attorney. Their is no reason to try and stop this. Spiritually, everyone is on their own.
Disagree with the use of the NBC theme song as that is a very liberal network nowadays. I would have used a theme from a famous movie or maybe Tabernacle music.
vintageyellow71: In response to a comment I saw you post on another vid, where you said not to throw around words like "Columbia University." Well, here's one for you: stop throwing around words like "Stalinist." It's not becoming, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
extremist on both sides have different views but use the same tactics of all extremes. this black list remind me of how the nazis destroyed the jewish businesses. Gays you have rights already to lead a gay life. dont force people to follow it. there no crime of being gay. be a strong individual and do your rights consitutionally. why would i respect rights that were force unconstitionally and took the rights of the majority to force their rights. gays you make no sense with your actions.
And you have failed to listen, as per usual. You're much to focused on instant gratification to consider the bigger picture. The ends don't justify the means, and it looks like the only way your going to learn that is the hard way.
Again no real argument that can or will ever be solid enough to stand in court. To base it on what you consider to be moral is outrageous, and that case you might think to make it against the law to have sex before marriage or the use of birth control because it is not considered to be moral for your church or religion. A compromise can be made but not one that is not the same. A compromise has to be fair and equal on both parties not just for one. As my example for civil unions but for everyone
Your religious groups have failed to provide any real proof against why gay marriage should be banned, aside from your religions bias. I have seen nothing that will force anyone not to practice there beliefs, unless you mean that if there "beliefs" condemn homosexuality everyone should follow this and enforce it through government. Just because you think its immoral to have sex outside of marriage or use birth control, you feel that your right and everyone should follow your morals.
I'm surprised the Mormon church and catholic church, the Mormon church originally had a very different version of marriage that involved several underage girls with mostly no consent, fact that even joe smith there "prophet" practiced yet there followers never condemn him on it. The catholic church with massive child molestation cases against them, with even there pope attempting to cover it up. If they like voting on gay rights then we should vote on there holly tax exempt law, to be fair.
Don't attempt to place gay marriage next to incest and pedophilia. Destroying the rights of other groups? Are you serious the only rights that are being destroyed are gay people. No one is taking anyone's religious rights? Unless you call wanting to enforce your religious beliefs through government. No majority group should have the right to vote on a minority group's rights. That's why the judge overturned that ridiculous prop, and what where the credible points?
One: We have already established that gay marriage is not a right, that false premise is merely a fallacy.
Two: At least be decent enought to use the context of times for the time period you are describing, selectivly judgeing by todays standards only shows a lack of character on your part.
Three: The judge overstepped to many lines in his verdict, to the point of using his opinion on policy in place of facts, and ignored any valid points that went against it.
Your still showing us the same thing over and over, a determination to self justify and ignore any issue created by the methods used to get what you want, to the point where it harms everyones right, including homosexuals. A comprimise can easily be made, but you are determined to have it your way in a way that sacrifices everyones rights by putting the power to take the voice of the people out of the equation. If anyone has a reason to have fear, that is the reason, not homophobia.
Again you have not shown this failed proof argument on why gay's shouldn't be married, aside from the pointless argument that it discriminates your religious right to discriminate against another group. The judge was doing his job, it is injustice for a policy or law that affects a minority group to be voted by the majority. It is only a fallacy when you consider it to be in the context of your church or religion but in government it has tax laws and other laws that come into play.
Well I guess your fine with incest then, after all, siblings can be consenting adults, and once the guys demanding the lowering of age get the judges to over rule the 'phobic moral' voters, you can add pedophilia to the list as well. And heck why not just allow marriage of cars and animals, after all, since morality has no place in law, as you say, then there is no real reason not to allow it, since morality has no real basis.
And not to mention now you can just sue the religious all you want, after all, since morality and religous belief have no place in law, what rights do they have to anything anymore? So what if they don't want to take part in your ideals, you can just sue them now. Heck we already have people burning down churches, why not just reward the arsonists, after all, church goers obviously must have morals and religious beliefs, so they obviously must be up to no good.
Face it, all your doing is setting yourselves up for hypocrism, destroying the rights of ofther groups, of all Americans even, just so you can force your ideas on others, crying out for equality, while dealing out none. But again, you don't care about this, just as long as you get to have your way, it doesn't matter that people lose the right to vote, or ther right to practice their beliefs, I mean who needs elections anymore, people are too moral and phobic to vote, just let the judges do it.
When people use the shield of morality and religion, all you get is discrimination towards a minority, for example the ridiculous laws such as slavery, banning interracial marriage, anti women rights. In court, the only real thing that matters is facts and proof, not peoples bigotry renamed morality and faith. What is so immoral about two consenting adults that love each other? Who are you to say whats immoral and not? Next your going to outlaw sex before marriage because its immoral to you.
This reminds me of that interracial ban on marriage that was still on the books that had no valid argument to it, just peoples religious and racist bias. Don't like interracial marriage, fine don't marry a person of a different race, don't like gay marriage, find don't marry a gay person. I would understand if gay marriage banned straight marriage but its doesn't. Civil unions are fine but to be equal they have to be for both gays and straights. Worry about your marriage, not others.
Likewise here we have people trying to abuse the language of law to emilinate the essential rights of others simply because they didn't get what they wanted right away in instant gratification. They are unwilling to compromise, unwilling to examine the effects, unwilling to submit information, and unwilling to think about the far reaching consequences involved in this.
It reminds me of the 'equal protection clause' of a while back, which basically said that men and women were exactly the same. While the church agreed that women should have equal rights, they were opposed to the simplicity that the clause took, which in a single statement said that basically men and woman had NO differences, physically, emotionally, or otherwise, which would eliminate the essential protections that women have.
Religion is generally protective against suicide, and studies on Latter-day Saints bear this out. It is unfortunate that critics wish to trivialize a serious problem such as suicide—a leading cause of death in the United States—by using it as a club to beat a specific religion. They do this without any data implicating the Church, and much data which argues against the patients' religion as a causitive factor.
On another note, I have learned that gay activist 'poll' don't mean much over the course of this divorce, suicide, or otherwise, as all they have distorted the relevence of them simply to try and demonize religion. For instance, they try to associate a 'Utah poll' to mean 'LDS' in considering of suicide rates, ignoring the fact that Utah is in the 'suiside belt' of states, where suicides are more common, as well as the fact that Utah has a lower suicide rate then it's surrounding states.
See basically what we can see here is gay activists not caring what rights get sacrificed as long as they get a political and ultimatly temporary backing from the left. You won't be so happy when you find that favor tilts to something you disapprove of, and find that you no longer have the right to object because you handed the judges the power to pass judgement on the people and cut them out of the equation.
Already we can se where people are being DENIED the right to vote on moral issues, our most important right, the right to have our voices heard, is being swept under the rug because you decided that anyone who doesn't agree with your ideals MUST be homophobic. Which is really more important to you, your voice or a word? Because your essentially giving one up for the other here.
The fact is that people have the right to defend the definition of a word that does effect everyone, it effects our school systems, and as you point out so often it effects how the religious are treated, and while your screaming homophobia and cheering on a judge whom basically mandated that any and all people who voted for prop 8 could have only done so because of bigotry and homophobia, you fail to see how this tears apart the constitution.
The simple fact that gay activists can't accept is that 'gay marriage' is not a civil right. Basically you can compare prop 8 to prop 19, it's about a restiction, not about a right. People want to change that restriction, which is applied the same to everyone, but gay activist try to hide behind a false civil rights claim to take advantage of the suffering that others went through in REAL civil rights cases, which is disrespectul the real victims in those cases.
When your placing a restriction on a minority then it is a civil right, especially when that restriction has no logical reasoning or even facts, aside from the religious bias views that make heterosexual couples superior than homosexual couples which in itself is biased. Not everyone believes your fairytale or god that you can't see, hear, touch but is there. Don't like gay marriage, fine don't marry a gay person and worry about your own relationship or marriage if you even have one.
@MrSinister84 Once again, it is not a civil right, under your line of logic, having marajuana illegal is a violation of civil rights. under you line of logic having pedofilia illegal is a violation of civil rights. What you are again complaining about is a restirction that applies to same to everyone. The definition of marriage is abetween a man and a woman, that is not denied you, you complain about the restriction, but you cannot claim it as a civil right.
Your line of logic also fails to give any real reason or logic to denying two consenting adults the same civil right as if they were straight, just that they are gay and the rest is just religious bias. You forget that the definition of marriage was between one white women and one white man with a ban on interracial marriage not too long ago, as well as the unique definition of underage polygamy marriage that the LDS had, that even joe smith practiced, which is a fact.
@MrSinister84 You can have two consenting adults have a union, just call it something else. It's a simple compromise that protects everyones rights and freedoms.
And that case it would be easier if it was called civil unions for both gay and straight couples in a government and laws sense, and then if people want to call it marriage personally and or by there church and religions, then it would be up to them. As there shouldn't be any church involvement in government issues, or to call it sacred, since not everyone considers it, just look at divorce rates for example. But don't ask them to call it something else, as that is not equal.
@MrSinister84 With you until the point of 'shouldn't be any church involvement in government issues' becuase that is basically demolishing the rights that this country was founded on. Seperation of church and state says nothing about church or religion not participating in issue of public morality, all it says is that the government cannot enforce a religion or prohibit the practice of religion. What you are suggesting is again taking away peoples rights simple to support your own views.
I agree people can and should believe whatever they wish, but to have the government enforce your belief of what marriage should be, when not everyone has the same faith or religion as you do is not right either. Churches should marry however they wish, but the government has to be equal. That's why I gave you my example, that if you want to change it to civil unions then be fair and change it for everyone, and then let their church or them personally call it marriage if they want to.
@MrSinister84 Right the government should not be able to enforce a certian groups ideals about marriage on everyone else, like gay activists are trying to do, glad we can agree on that.
Lol good one, but no, the only ones trying to enforce there ideals of marriage into government that comes with no logic or proof is from religious organizations that aside from there beliefs that they cannot prove, have no real argument for gays marrying. Even the judge said that there wasn't any real evidence, proof or argument to that prop, just a bias argument that straight couples are superior to gay couples.
@MrSinister84 The judge ignored all the credable points from one side and treated the other as experts, put all the voters of prop 8 of on trial and said the ONLY reason ANY of them voted for prop 8 was because they were homophobic, said morality has not place in law, and that religious beliefs have no place in legal matters. What he did crossed all sorts of lines and have essentially said that the judges can now decided if you even get a vote at all.
What you are doing is trading away rights for a temporary backing of your own ideals, but how are you going to feel when the judges decide you're too 'insert whatever phobia here' to vote on a different moral matter? Because that is basically what he set up. It's now codified in law that morality has no bearing in law, that your beliefs have no bearing, and that if the judge chooses to, he can decide that millions of people are simply too phobic to have a vote.
This will effect future cases, this will effect everyones rights, and you don't really care, just as long as you get to 'win'. Everything else you just place on cognative disonance like everyone else is just delusional because you've decided what is right and wrong. We can already see people having to PATITION just to be allowed to vote on issues, and still you just ignore it because you can't possibly be wrong.
What credible points, besides the religious bias? No majority should have a vote on a minority groups rights. Of course morality has not place in law, and that religious beliefs have no place in legal matters, not everyone believes in what you consider morality wrong or right or what god you follow. Legal matters have to do with unbiased facts and proof.
@idaman12345 No, because religion has not handed over the voice of the people just for political backing, that is all gay activists right there. Religion has voiced itself, legally campaigned, and voted, while gay activists have demanded that anyone opposing their ideals be stripped of that voice and vote and be MADE to comply. Again, the ends do not justify the means, and the methods of gay activists endanger the rights of all.
@idaman12345 Oh, so Christianity is now a cult that should be taxed huh? Yeah, and you claim that the religious have 'nothing to fear'. Some much for that claim.
@idaman1234 Translation: "if free citizens of the United state donate to a cause I disagree with, they should be punished for disagreeing with me despite their right to donate in a general elective, doing so within the lines of the law, and having the right to do so". Right your SO into equality, just like Hitler was.
@Dyoni1 Firstly, it's "you're." Learn to spell. Secondly, it's more like this: "If free citizens of the United States donate to a cause under the name of a religious organization, and this donation contributes to the passage of a provision which takes rights away from a minority, it should be appealed as unconstitutional." Majority rule, minority rights, kiddo. I'm guessing you didn't pass eighth grade government?
@Dyoni1 And by the way: Hitler made a point of shoving gays, the disfigured, Jews, gypsies, and every other minority into gas chambers. Not a very good comparison there, my friend.
"acting" on gay feeling are sinful to the bible. you dont have to marry to love your partner. have all the sex you want but man and woman must marry to have intimate relations because sex must be bounded in marriage or is sinful. it is a religious institution. leave marriage to religion. most gays deny god so why do they want to join an act that was brought up religiously. they want to ban religion influence but are hypocrites to want to marry each other. you wouldnt speak if i wasnt for the USA
Great videos- Keep it brethren!!! hahaha Leave it to activists to blow everything out of proportion. Lose is lose, win is win! They should just join us since they can't beat us. Hahaha
"Gays should not be in the United States" Couldn't agree with this chinese dude more. They should ban gay marriage in faggott states like Mass "ass" chucettes and the other states.
@mikeyrobins022585 dude saying gay marrage should be ban is reaterd enfoth but saying that they should be ban from the u.s is to far. you know i awhys though the u.s was for freedom and rights and it is and people that stand agest that like you at this classic yellow prick should not be in the united states
If people truly believed in their convictions to donate for a proposition against equal rights, they should be comfortable enough for people to know how they supported unequal rights. The hypocrisy of calling gay people cry babies is ridiculous, the news segment was about people that donated to hate were crying about their names being published. Which just goes to show that if they would have know their actions would be public, they wouldn't have supported such an anti american campaign.
well frist i just whated to say vintageyellow (if that is your real name) your a fucking dipshit and second it kind of funny because now the yes on prop 8 supporters are crying like fucking annoying babys (because there worng) and third what kind of a name is vintageyellow it a stupid name your name is bacesy classic yellownow what kind of a fucking name is classic yellow
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind kellsonic
@vintageyellow71 keep crying!! you make my point so eloquently and also your kind of right it is best to fight for what right like you said you know kind of what i'm doing now and what eveyone else is doing now it is worng to juge mock or hate people just because of how they love and yes i do now know much about god but i know for a fact that he would what to have love in the world not hate so if i were you i would ask God for forgiveness and stop mokeing gay people
So exactly how does gay couples marrying negatively affect a couple in a "traditional marriage"?
I don't understand this about all religions; they are not content with their own fantastical claims, and instead seek to interrupt the lifes of non-believers in the name of "religious freedom" - as phrased on some of the posters. Why can't you keep yourself to yourself; I'm sure if Muslims were trying to impose sharia law you'd be quite opposed to religion mediating it's morals on all citizens.
this is what the extreme left always does when they can't have it their way. they crassly impinge on other peoples rights. they're lunatics and soooo hypocritical.
Do we still live in America? Do we still have freedom of speech and religion? And what about elections? Do they still count? Well, if you answered YES to these questions, then Mormons have as EQUAL a say as HOMOSEXUALS. And if the state VOTED DOWN the proposition, who is being CRY BABIES to protest people's RIGHTS to VOTE. THEY HAVE SPOKEN. DEAL WITH IT!
In regards to the issue of marriage we simply choose to defend a man and a woman=marriage. This is much different than hate as those steeped in ignorance, intolerance and hatred themselves would have you believe. I know what I believe and I love Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Ghost I also love all people even if they lie-which they are doing, persecute and despitefully use us. "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." Jesus Christ (John 15:18)
We have always taught unconditional love of all races, cultures and all people including homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers, and those who don’t live or follow God’s commandments and this includes even those who we do not agree with for whatever reason. "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:40)
Eventually this will run its course to the point that after they've milked this whole "Gay the New Black" slogan till it dries the bucket will see caucasians (Regardless of gender) revert back to being their natural selves when their typical behavior: weak men and woman hiding being a token person(s) of ethnicity; Flavor will be stale. IF the news or the politicians don't find a way to "desensitize" it first of course. Becoming appearant it can no longer be of use to effect the Obama cabinet.
Mormans are some whacked out muthas, for sure, but the total willingness to demonize other Americans in the name of, whatever the Mormons believe in, since they are a closeted cult I can't tell, is just Un-American. Why do you hate civil rights so much? WTF are you really doing in those temples, starry eyed cult leaders? Your cynicism is total, what a waste of capitol, both political and social. Get some ethics, please. Prop 8 = epic fail! cost? 40 million and counting.
Out of all the videos I've seen this is the VERY BEST!!! THANK YOU for standing up to these radical perverts who are trying to destroy the natural family and expect the rest of society to mutually respect weirdos with warped sexual practices. You are AWESOME!!!
God put Adam and Eve on dis earth not Adam and another man. ppl think.if we let gays to get married and adopt children, the next gen will think its ok to be gay. WHICH ITS NOT!!!!! yu must think bout our childrens future.
Idaman, marriage is not an institution of the state. Marriage is an institution of religion and was first incorporated into religion. If homosexuals want Church and state separate, then marriage should be no part of a political homosexual agenda. Is it any wonder why Prop 22 and Prop 8 both passed in California? No matter how many times the GLBT movement tries to press the issue and rob faiths of the marriage institution, people will always take a stand for God and do what is right.
have these ppl. never heard of ANNOYNMOUS donations, stupid its there fault! idiotes! i gave a money order to the yes on 8 canpane w/o signing my name way before this. also NOM fuck u i want to donate annoynmosly but u don't alow that. also allow me to bonk u over the head YOU`DE GET MORE $ IF YOU DID!!!!!
to make fun of people is never the right way to do things. I supported prop 8 but the title of this video makes me sick. Show compassion even if you don't believe what they believe.
no it wasn't unamerican, but it was inmoral. to abuse and destroy someones property because of a political choice is wrong. The Gay community should no all about that. The abuse on them because of there choice is wrong, so to turn around in such hatred is nothing more than a hate crime.
I saw on another video that some gay leader couldn't even pronounce LDS Prophet Monson's name, no wonder Mormons kicked ass on Prop 8!!!
If Gays knew their adversary they could have exposed immoral Mormon racism that exists to this day. Yes, the Mormon PR machine would love for everyone to believe LDS racism ended in 1978
But we have never repudiated or apologized for our racism so it stands to this day as valid doctrine, statements & teachings
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i don't understand their need to get married, they live together anyway. They just want to be accepted by everyone I guess, which is not possible at this moment... the problem is that everyone says:" This is a free country", "This is my country too!", being free doesn't mean we have the right to harm other people or destroy our society.
@vintageyellow71 and what point are you proving by taking advantage and exploiting others misery and sadness after your church and your money took their civil rights away? Who is the cry baby here....go back to your fairy tale book of Morons and stay there. Leave sane people to live their lives as they wish and people will let you use your magic underwear as much you want.
Isn't homosexuality against the natural order of things? Wasn't it ADAM & EVE not ADAM & STEVE or EVE & EVA? Look at these libtard morons & defilers of the natural order cry about the fact that Cali is not allowing them to further screw up the families more than they already have. Isn't San Fran the gay capital of the US? Now 10% of the ppl & their supporters are boycotting businesses b/c of the businesses supporting No on prop 8? I DETECT MASS AMOUNTS OF BUTT HURT!
seperation of church and state doesn't mean that the state can strip a people of there religous freedoms. By the way the members of the LDS church supported prop 8, the church orginazation did not put a dime into the cause.
@ idaman12345 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and its generous donation to protect moral integrity also protects the churches of its faith as well as others from discrimination lawsuits rendered by same-sex couples who would most assuredly be denied to marry in their chapels or church buildings because such a union is as the scriptures describe "an abomination to God."
The LDS protected churches from being subject to the whims of the abomination against creation and God.
Will you also cry to tax the Catholic church, and many Protestant -based churches whose members were strongly encouraged to financially support Prop 8? I guess not because your intolerance and hatred only goes so far, huh? Prop 8 passed. God won this battle over Satan. Get over it.
The Church itself used the tithing of members of the Church who so designated offerings to support Proposition 8. The leadership of the church was only using the funds members of the Church so designated!
And I assure you that if anyone is calling "gay" people that f-word that you used, it isn't any LDS member I know. It might be a member of Westboro Baptist Church. If you want to know what real hatred looks like, then take a look at that church's ministry.
@vintageyellow71: who's crying? Prop 8 supporters like YOU, vintageyellow (how appropriate that you choose "yellow" as part of your name... as in cowardly). I know damn well that the mormon church didn't violate law by encouraging their members to vote and contribute money to Prop 8. Likewise, you should realize that publicizing the names of these supporters, as well as boycotting them, is completely LEGAL. So stop your whining and crying already! This video simply proves it!
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind moopism
@vintageyellow71 Yeah, I feel better. And now that both the DOMA and DADT have also been found unconstitutional, I feel even better.
Here's a hint: if you want to score a point that is relevant in my life, you're going to have to do better than falling back on your little fairy tales of the cosmic boogeyman.
Hey moon beam, did you not get enough breast feeding when you were a child? I sure enjoy sharing with you how much of a moron you are. Get a life. Make a video rather then type garbage to people me who wag you like a dog.
@vintageyellow71 What does making a halfassed video have anything to do with the validity of my viewpoint?
Or breastfeeding?
You don't wag shit. You are typical of the cretinous Mormons that would rather piss away millions of dollars to lose a battle that leaves the broader public repulsed by your faith instead of putting that money into helping the poor.
When you're exposed you argument s sound like the king of shit 3rd graders come up with to taunt each other. So very sad.
The bible is the word of god. jesus came to show us how to live the word of god and if those people who call themselfs real christians should know that jesus would have voted and sided with the mormon church. and it would matter how many poeple where it upset or made mad. the poeple voted their voice was heard now get over it(stop crying)
The Mormon cult prefers a theocracy. If Mormons had their way, women would be property, black forlk would be second class citizens and gays would be executed.
@vintageyellow71 now, how Christ like is it to call people names like you do? You give Christianity a bad name. Then again, Mormons aren't really Christians as they believe in the Book or Morons in where is says Jesus travelled to America among other interesting little fairy tales...talk about ridiculous.
Like the belief that a illiterate charlatan by the name of Joseph Smith found some golden plates on a hill in New York: which he alone could look upon and live; translate - then, after, the plates were "returned to an angel" before anyone else could try to read them.
@vintageyellow71 sorry bub, I've lived in Mormon country and I know first hand how you exclude all outsiders from access to housing, jobs, and the political process. calling that point of view stupid doesn't change the FACT of your church's acts.
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind moopism
This is over the top. Perhaps instead of the word "Mormon" you must mean the word "Muslim" since such practices ARE still practiced in Islamic nations today. The homosexual agenda is one without the highest form of love. You see it in the actions and speech by practically everyone that supports that agenda--the use of derogatory language, explicit actions of hate and intolerance to those of faith, and the rape of the US Constitution to undermine "good" for selfish purposes.
@ScottyLDS really have you seen some of the posts by the anti gay agenda, faggot this faggot that, gays arent trying to "undermine good" they want equality
@AtlasShruggery Then why did a Mormon woman win as the first woman senator in the U.S., her name being Martha Hughes Cannon, and also a polygamous wife as well. Her status never prevented her from completing law school, having three kids, and beating her husband in the election, didn't stop her from making it into Congress. Pretty funny isn't it?
It doesn't matter WHO they are or WHAT they believe - YOU prove THAT! It's about the American way - and the PC attitude that says ALL BELIEFS ARE EQUAL and THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG. Are you saying you disagree with those premises? If NOT, then stop COMPLAINING! You had your vote and so did they. If the voting process is to remain valid, we ALL have to abide by the MAJORITY vote - whether we agree or NOT.
@Photoglogal Sorry, but the constitution guarantees the rights of the minority from the oppression of the majority. You are coming from a fundamental misunderstanding of the American Republic.
I love when so called Christians get all high and mighty with the gay issue. If you were a true follower of jesus and the bible you'd know that it tells you over and over again that its not your job to judge. Keep playing god guys, see where it gets you. You can't stop the bumrush. Homosexuality is now widely accepted, so bitch all you want, but the days of blindly listening to whacked out religious people like you is over. And THANK GOD.
I don't believe in blacklists. I should have donated to Proposition 8 and I don't even live in California. Why do gays think fudge packing is an unalienable right? I could care less if people want to be gay. But I don't think they should be allowed to marry. Gays should be happy if they aren't allowed to marry. This is why I don't get too involved with politics. I don't have the patience to deal with psychotic retards. If a fag ever said anything rude to me it would be his last words.
Jefgg 3 weeks ago
ahhh homophobes
whatnowman42 1 month ago
i swear,that the next homo to stare me down and look at me like if they want to rape me,ima beat the living shit out them.ima record it,and post it on here.matter of fact,what ima do,is start recording how these fags are not right and how disrespectful and out of place they can be.
The98knuklz 4 months ago
what part of not being morally alright to be gay do they not understand.i mean its wrong in so many ways,i dont even know where to start.and the worst part is,you cant walk around and be civilized with them,cuz then they want to hit on you cuz they think your 1 of them..Jesus.!!you see them here,theyll act right for the sake of the protest,but put them in a different situation.there a bunch of disrespectful fags that swear every 1 around them is gay..FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING HOMOS.!
The98knuklz 4 months ago
We know that anti-gay zealots are both ignorant & mentally ill: a deadly combination. The educated among us know that being gay is perfectly normal & natural; an innate condition bestowed upon some of His children by God when He creates them to be gay. Homophobes can throw hissy fits all they want, but minority rights in this country are NOT dependent on the popular vote. If it were, blacks would still be slaves, and women would still be chattel. Gays are equal. Stop whining. Deal.
GodCreatesGays2 1 month ago
A judge in South American was shot and killed on her own front lawn because of these same kinds of tactics. And they are proud?
AquaCarb 4 months ago
It's also UNAMERICAN to deny others (such as Mormons and other groups of Christians or whoever) the RIGHT to disagree with you. Can you say "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom of Religion"? If you want to go somewhere where there is only ONE viewpoint allowed, try Russia or the Middle East. (Good luck there.)
Photoglogal 5 months ago
"You make me less of an American by denying me to marry whoever I want to..." No - what makes YOU less of an American is the fact that when an election that Americans in your state - of ALL beliefs, legally given to AMERICANS, - doesn't go your way, you feel that it doesn't COUNT. That spirit is UNAmerican. You don't like the outcome of the vote, seek to change it NEXT TIME, or move somewhere where it IS approved. Also, your response says," We want everyone to AGREE with us." NO.
Photoglogal 5 months ago
@Photoglogal
Great comments here Photo. Thank you for your argument. Make more sense then the past 1000 comments.
vintageyellow71 5 months ago
@vintageyellow71 Good video. I really enjoyed it! Just hope prop 8 will prevail in the courts. I'm hopeful.
mikeyrobins022585 4 months ago
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@vintageyellow71 Once again, this is a Civil Rights issue. Civil rights aren't supposed to be up for a vote. This is like when interracial marriage was illegal by a vote and the Supreme Court had to overrule it. No matter what, your side will lose (it is already moving towards the side of LGBT rights).
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
@Photoglogal hey deepshit,
you assholes don't have the right to keep us from happiness
Thewite1 3 months ago
@Photoglogal This is a Civil Rights issue. Civil rights aren't supposed to be up for a vote. This is like when interracial marriage was illegal by a vote and the Supreme Court had to overrule it. No matter what, your side will lose (it is already moving towards the side of LGBT rights).
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
Well its almost over and the winner looks to be the gays becaue gay marriage is back baby!!!!!
Clemburke1111 6 months ago
@Clemburke1111 I hope all you motherfuckes be hanged or shot execution style!!!!!!
SaintHakim504 5 months ago
@SaintHakim504 To bad ya cant bitch its now a hate crime if ya do hahahahahahahahahaha
Clemburke1111 5 months ago
@Clemburke1111 We don't know yet, dude. It's still in the courts.
mikeyrobins022585 4 months ago
@mikeyrobins022585 Either way we win , if it goes to SCOTUS we win, if it stays in CA we win.
Clemburke1111 4 months ago
@Clemburke1111 We'll see. It can go either way.
mikeyrobins022585 4 months ago
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Fuck you, you hate filled racist hag.
jwwindsor 6 months ago
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY - TAKE PEOPLES RIGHTS AND GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! AND WORSE! UD DO THE SAME IF THEY BANNED YOUR RIGHTS!
MAYBE THEY SHOULD MAKE GAYS PAY NO TAX? AS THEIR RIGHTS ARE LESSENED. ID LOvE TO SEE THE CRY BABIES FLOW!
and un american? STEALING RIGHTS IS UN AMERICAN.
BrokenButterfly1000 8 months ago
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY - TAKE PEOPLES RIGHTS AND GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! AND WORSE! UD DO THE SAME IF THEY BANNED YOUR RIGHTS!
MAYBE THEY SHOULD MAKE GAYS PAY NO TAX? AS THEIR RIGHTS ARE LESSENED. ID LOvE TO SEE THEY CRY BABIES FLOW!
BrokenButterfly1000 8 months ago
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY - TAKE PEOPLES RIGHTS AND GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! AND WORSE! UD DO THE SAME IF THEY BANNED YOUR RIGHTS!
MAYBE THEY SHOULD MAKE GAYS PAY NO TAX? AS THEIR RIGHTS ARE LESSENED. ID LOvE TO SEE THEY CRY BABIES FLOW!
BrokenButterfly1000 8 months ago
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY - TAKE PEOPLES RIGHTS AND GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! AND WORSE! UD DO THE SAME IF THEY BANNED YOUR RIGHTS!
BrokenButterfly1000 8 months ago
gay ppl are cry babys they think that mormons gave money when infact they gave none. ok get over youselfs and dont take it out on christians or mormons they did nothing wrong but support the ban.
TheToontownprincess 8 months ago
@TheToontownprincess You're crazy. It's is documented the mormons gave lots of money. Do your research before you post your stupidity for everyone to see. Go fuck yourself.
jwwindsor 6 months ago
@jwwindsor ok if im wrong show me about this document then ill believe because my mormon friends said they donated not money fuck u
TheToontownprincess 6 months ago
@TheToontownprincess Do your research idiot before you open your big fat stupid egomaniac mouth. (mormonsfor8 . com)
jwwindsor 6 months ago
religion and bigotry are the only reasons why their is so much opposition to gay marriage. It's a shame.
soronery1 10 months ago
@soronery1 there are legal reasons to oppose same sex marriage, as well as the fact that many people don't like the idea of activist judges overturning the will of the people. also don't assume that someone who opposes same sex marriage are bigoted. it's a tired argument.
azn1011 8 months ago
dude gays over exaggerate so much!!!!...they're such bitter losers!!!..it just kills him how gays think everyone who dont agree with their point of view are blind and hateful..Juss because we dont agree to their lifestyle..
SiNnDeEzY89 10 months ago
hahahaha good one,..
jetfighters20fr 10 months ago
Well, this was the stupidest, most homophobic video i've seen today, great! Oh, and by the way, blacklists are an extremely anti-communist thing, dumbasses, in fact, i love american people and hate blacklists but they are very common in america unfortunatly. right wing bs!
meggatonman 10 months ago
I think the videos here are selectively chosen to show upset gay marriage supporters at their worst. Honestly their behavior really has nothing to do with the issue of is gay marriage right or not. They have a right to petition their government to create legal instruments on their behalf like any other citizen. Marriage as far as the government is concerned is a legal instrument like a Will or Power of Attorney. Their is no reason to try and stop this. Spiritually, everyone is on their own.
juxtn 1 year ago
Disagree with the use of the NBC theme song as that is a very liberal network nowadays. I would have used a theme from a famous movie or maybe Tabernacle music.
Ragnark1 1 year ago
vintageyellow71: In response to a comment I saw you post on another vid, where you said not to throw around words like "Columbia University." Well, here's one for you: stop throwing around words like "Stalinist." It's not becoming, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Tammylita 1 year ago
I would like these fags to try and protest in front of a Muslim mosque. Let's see how long you last!
ma7799 1 year ago
@ma7799 Fuck you.
Tammylita 1 year ago
extremist on both sides have different views but use the same tactics of all extremes. this black list remind me of how the nazis destroyed the jewish businesses. Gays you have rights already to lead a gay life. dont force people to follow it. there no crime of being gay. be a strong individual and do your rights consitutionally. why would i respect rights that were force unconstitionally and took the rights of the majority to force their rights. gays you make no sense with your actions.
rlow8 1 year ago
And you have failed to listen, as per usual. You're much to focused on instant gratification to consider the bigger picture. The ends don't justify the means, and it looks like the only way your going to learn that is the hard way.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
Again no real argument that can or will ever be solid enough to stand in court. To base it on what you consider to be moral is outrageous, and that case you might think to make it against the law to have sex before marriage or the use of birth control because it is not considered to be moral for your church or religion. A compromise can be made but not one that is not the same. A compromise has to be fair and equal on both parties not just for one. As my example for civil unions but for everyone
MrSinister84 1 year ago
Your religious groups have failed to provide any real proof against why gay marriage should be banned, aside from your religions bias. I have seen nothing that will force anyone not to practice there beliefs, unless you mean that if there "beliefs" condemn homosexuality everyone should follow this and enforce it through government. Just because you think its immoral to have sex outside of marriage or use birth control, you feel that your right and everyone should follow your morals.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
I'm surprised the Mormon church and catholic church, the Mormon church originally had a very different version of marriage that involved several underage girls with mostly no consent, fact that even joe smith there "prophet" practiced yet there followers never condemn him on it. The catholic church with massive child molestation cases against them, with even there pope attempting to cover it up. If they like voting on gay rights then we should vote on there holly tax exempt law, to be fair.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
Don't attempt to place gay marriage next to incest and pedophilia. Destroying the rights of other groups? Are you serious the only rights that are being destroyed are gay people. No one is taking anyone's religious rights? Unless you call wanting to enforce your religious beliefs through government. No majority group should have the right to vote on a minority group's rights. That's why the judge overturned that ridiculous prop, and what where the credible points?
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84
One: We have already established that gay marriage is not a right, that false premise is merely a fallacy.
Two: At least be decent enought to use the context of times for the time period you are describing, selectivly judgeing by todays standards only shows a lack of character on your part.
Three: The judge overstepped to many lines in his verdict, to the point of using his opinion on policy in place of facts, and ignored any valid points that went against it.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
Your still showing us the same thing over and over, a determination to self justify and ignore any issue created by the methods used to get what you want, to the point where it harms everyones right, including homosexuals. A comprimise can easily be made, but you are determined to have it your way in a way that sacrifices everyones rights by putting the power to take the voice of the people out of the equation. If anyone has a reason to have fear, that is the reason, not homophobia.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
Again you have not shown this failed proof argument on why gay's shouldn't be married, aside from the pointless argument that it discriminates your religious right to discriminate against another group. The judge was doing his job, it is injustice for a policy or law that affects a minority group to be voted by the majority. It is only a fallacy when you consider it to be in the context of your church or religion but in government it has tax laws and other laws that come into play.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
Well I guess your fine with incest then, after all, siblings can be consenting adults, and once the guys demanding the lowering of age get the judges to over rule the 'phobic moral' voters, you can add pedophilia to the list as well. And heck why not just allow marriage of cars and animals, after all, since morality has no place in law, as you say, then there is no real reason not to allow it, since morality has no real basis.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
And not to mention now you can just sue the religious all you want, after all, since morality and religous belief have no place in law, what rights do they have to anything anymore? So what if they don't want to take part in your ideals, you can just sue them now. Heck we already have people burning down churches, why not just reward the arsonists, after all, church goers obviously must have morals and religious beliefs, so they obviously must be up to no good.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
Face it, all your doing is setting yourselves up for hypocrism, destroying the rights of ofther groups, of all Americans even, just so you can force your ideas on others, crying out for equality, while dealing out none. But again, you don't care about this, just as long as you get to have your way, it doesn't matter that people lose the right to vote, or ther right to practice their beliefs, I mean who needs elections anymore, people are too moral and phobic to vote, just let the judges do it.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
When people use the shield of morality and religion, all you get is discrimination towards a minority, for example the ridiculous laws such as slavery, banning interracial marriage, anti women rights. In court, the only real thing that matters is facts and proof, not peoples bigotry renamed morality and faith. What is so immoral about two consenting adults that love each other? Who are you to say whats immoral and not? Next your going to outlaw sex before marriage because its immoral to you.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
This reminds me of that interracial ban on marriage that was still on the books that had no valid argument to it, just peoples religious and racist bias. Don't like interracial marriage, fine don't marry a person of a different race, don't like gay marriage, find don't marry a gay person. I would understand if gay marriage banned straight marriage but its doesn't. Civil unions are fine but to be equal they have to be for both gays and straights. Worry about your marriage, not others.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
Likewise here we have people trying to abuse the language of law to emilinate the essential rights of others simply because they didn't get what they wanted right away in instant gratification. They are unwilling to compromise, unwilling to examine the effects, unwilling to submit information, and unwilling to think about the far reaching consequences involved in this.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
It reminds me of the 'equal protection clause' of a while back, which basically said that men and women were exactly the same. While the church agreed that women should have equal rights, they were opposed to the simplicity that the clause took, which in a single statement said that basically men and woman had NO differences, physically, emotionally, or otherwise, which would eliminate the essential protections that women have.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
Religion is generally protective against suicide, and studies on Latter-day Saints bear this out. It is unfortunate that critics wish to trivialize a serious problem such as suicide—a leading cause of death in the United States—by using it as a club to beat a specific religion. They do this without any data implicating the Church, and much data which argues against the patients' religion as a causitive factor.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
On another note, I have learned that gay activist 'poll' don't mean much over the course of this divorce, suicide, or otherwise, as all they have distorted the relevence of them simply to try and demonize religion. For instance, they try to associate a 'Utah poll' to mean 'LDS' in considering of suicide rates, ignoring the fact that Utah is in the 'suiside belt' of states, where suicides are more common, as well as the fact that Utah has a lower suicide rate then it's surrounding states.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
See basically what we can see here is gay activists not caring what rights get sacrificed as long as they get a political and ultimatly temporary backing from the left. You won't be so happy when you find that favor tilts to something you disapprove of, and find that you no longer have the right to object because you handed the judges the power to pass judgement on the people and cut them out of the equation.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
A vote for conservatism is a vote for fascism.
JPWMT 1 year ago
Already we can se where people are being DENIED the right to vote on moral issues, our most important right, the right to have our voices heard, is being swept under the rug because you decided that anyone who doesn't agree with your ideals MUST be homophobic. Which is really more important to you, your voice or a word? Because your essentially giving one up for the other here.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
The fact is that people have the right to defend the definition of a word that does effect everyone, it effects our school systems, and as you point out so often it effects how the religious are treated, and while your screaming homophobia and cheering on a judge whom basically mandated that any and all people who voted for prop 8 could have only done so because of bigotry and homophobia, you fail to see how this tears apart the constitution.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
The simple fact that gay activists can't accept is that 'gay marriage' is not a civil right. Basically you can compare prop 8 to prop 19, it's about a restiction, not about a right. People want to change that restriction, which is applied the same to everyone, but gay activist try to hide behind a false civil rights claim to take advantage of the suffering that others went through in REAL civil rights cases, which is disrespectul the real victims in those cases.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
When your placing a restriction on a minority then it is a civil right, especially when that restriction has no logical reasoning or even facts, aside from the religious bias views that make heterosexual couples superior than homosexual couples which in itself is biased. Not everyone believes your fairytale or god that you can't see, hear, touch but is there. Don't like gay marriage, fine don't marry a gay person and worry about your own relationship or marriage if you even have one.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84 Once again, it is not a civil right, under your line of logic, having marajuana illegal is a violation of civil rights. under you line of logic having pedofilia illegal is a violation of civil rights. What you are again complaining about is a restirction that applies to same to everyone. The definition of marriage is abetween a man and a woman, that is not denied you, you complain about the restriction, but you cannot claim it as a civil right.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
Your line of logic also fails to give any real reason or logic to denying two consenting adults the same civil right as if they were straight, just that they are gay and the rest is just religious bias. You forget that the definition of marriage was between one white women and one white man with a ban on interracial marriage not too long ago, as well as the unique definition of underage polygamy marriage that the LDS had, that even joe smith practiced, which is a fact.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84 You can have two consenting adults have a union, just call it something else. It's a simple compromise that protects everyones rights and freedoms.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
And that case it would be easier if it was called civil unions for both gay and straight couples in a government and laws sense, and then if people want to call it marriage personally and or by there church and religions, then it would be up to them. As there shouldn't be any church involvement in government issues, or to call it sacred, since not everyone considers it, just look at divorce rates for example. But don't ask them to call it something else, as that is not equal.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84 With you until the point of 'shouldn't be any church involvement in government issues' becuase that is basically demolishing the rights that this country was founded on. Seperation of church and state says nothing about church or religion not participating in issue of public morality, all it says is that the government cannot enforce a religion or prohibit the practice of religion. What you are suggesting is again taking away peoples rights simple to support your own views.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
I agree people can and should believe whatever they wish, but to have the government enforce your belief of what marriage should be, when not everyone has the same faith or religion as you do is not right either. Churches should marry however they wish, but the government has to be equal. That's why I gave you my example, that if you want to change it to civil unions then be fair and change it for everyone, and then let their church or them personally call it marriage if they want to.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84 Right the government should not be able to enforce a certian groups ideals about marriage on everyone else, like gay activists are trying to do, glad we can agree on that.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
Lol good one, but no, the only ones trying to enforce there ideals of marriage into government that comes with no logic or proof is from religious organizations that aside from there beliefs that they cannot prove, have no real argument for gays marrying. Even the judge said that there wasn't any real evidence, proof or argument to that prop, just a bias argument that straight couples are superior to gay couples.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@MrSinister84 The judge ignored all the credable points from one side and treated the other as experts, put all the voters of prop 8 of on trial and said the ONLY reason ANY of them voted for prop 8 was because they were homophobic, said morality has not place in law, and that religious beliefs have no place in legal matters. What he did crossed all sorts of lines and have essentially said that the judges can now decided if you even get a vote at all.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
What you are doing is trading away rights for a temporary backing of your own ideals, but how are you going to feel when the judges decide you're too 'insert whatever phobia here' to vote on a different moral matter? Because that is basically what he set up. It's now codified in law that morality has no bearing in law, that your beliefs have no bearing, and that if the judge chooses to, he can decide that millions of people are simply too phobic to have a vote.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
This will effect future cases, this will effect everyones rights, and you don't really care, just as long as you get to 'win'. Everything else you just place on cognative disonance like everyone else is just delusional because you've decided what is right and wrong. We can already see people having to PATITION just to be allowed to vote on issues, and still you just ignore it because you can't possibly be wrong.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1
What credible points, besides the religious bias? No majority should have a vote on a minority groups rights. Of course morality has not place in law, and that religious beliefs have no place in legal matters, not everyone believes in what you consider morality wrong or right or what god you follow. Legal matters have to do with unbiased facts and proof.
MrSinister84 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 isnt religion doing the same thing to gays and lesbians though?
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 No, because religion has not handed over the voice of the people just for political backing, that is all gay activists right there. Religion has voiced itself, legally campaigned, and voted, while gay activists have demanded that anyone opposing their ideals be stripped of that voice and vote and be MADE to comply. Again, the ends do not justify the means, and the methods of gay activists endanger the rights of all.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 seperation of church and state should stop religion from campaigning for anything political
Even when talking about something not religious (marriage)
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Learn what seperation of Chuch and Stame means, because you obviously are ignorent of it's meaning.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 state cannot make a law that imposes anything on religion
And those cults get tax exemption
(Which the mormon cult should lose)
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Oh, so Christianity is now a cult that should be taxed huh? Yeah, and you claim that the religious have 'nothing to fear'. Some much for that claim.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 technically it has always been a cult
And if they donated money to prop h8 they should
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman1234 Translation: "if free citizens of the United state donate to a cause I disagree with, they should be punished for disagreeing with me despite their right to donate in a general elective, doing so within the lines of the law, and having the right to do so". Right your SO into equality, just like Hitler was.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 actually in the gay/anti gay side
hitler would agree with the anti gays
because like hitler, they hate anything pro america
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Riiiight , sure, because you say so. Get over yourself.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 actually their actions prove I'm right
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 And your actions prove you wrong.
Dyoni1 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 Firstly, it's "you're." Learn to spell. Secondly, it's more like this: "If free citizens of the United States donate to a cause under the name of a religious organization, and this donation contributes to the passage of a provision which takes rights away from a minority, it should be appealed as unconstitutional." Majority rule, minority rights, kiddo. I'm guessing you didn't pass eighth grade government?
Tammylita 1 year ago
@Dyoni1 And by the way: Hitler made a point of shoving gays, the disfigured, Jews, gypsies, and every other minority into gas chambers. Not a very good comparison there, my friend.
Tammylita 1 year ago
"acting" on gay feeling are sinful to the bible. you dont have to marry to love your partner. have all the sex you want but man and woman must marry to have intimate relations because sex must be bounded in marriage or is sinful. it is a religious institution. leave marriage to religion. most gays deny god so why do they want to join an act that was brought up religiously. they want to ban religion influence but are hypocrites to want to marry each other. you wouldnt speak if i wasnt for the USA
rlow8 1 year ago
Great videos- Keep it brethren!!! hahaha Leave it to activists to blow everything out of proportion. Lose is lose, win is win! They should just join us since they can't beat us. Hahaha
Superaven 1 year ago
I thought the Mormons were the ones accused of being hatful. I see no hate here except from Gay activists.
tcfarmer 1 year ago
"Gays should not be in the United States" Couldn't agree with this chinese dude more. They should ban gay marriage in faggott states like Mass "ass" chucettes and the other states.
mikeyrobins022585 1 year ago
@mikeyrobins022585 gays and lesbians have as much rights to be here as you do
why should equal rights be banned?
idaman12345 1 year ago
@mikeyrobins022585 dude saying gay marrage should be ban is reaterd enfoth but saying that they should be ban from the u.s is to far. you know i awhys though the u.s was for freedom and rights and it is and people that stand agest that like you at this classic yellow prick should not be in the united states
Victor143 1 year ago
If people truly believed in their convictions to donate for a proposition against equal rights, they should be comfortable enough for people to know how they supported unequal rights. The hypocrisy of calling gay people cry babies is ridiculous, the news segment was about people that donated to hate were crying about their names being published. Which just goes to show that if they would have know their actions would be public, they wouldn't have supported such an anti american campaign.
Xwowplaya 1 year ago
well frist i just whated to say vintageyellow (if that is your real name) your a fucking dipshit and second it kind of funny because now the yes on prop 8 supporters are crying like fucking annoying babys (because there worng) and third what kind of a name is vintageyellow it a stupid name your name is bacesy classic yellownow what kind of a fucking name is classic yellow
KELLSONIC 1 year ago 39
@KELLSONIC
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind kellsonic
vintageyellow71 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 keep crying!! you make my point so eloquently and also your kind of right it is best to fight for what right like you said you know kind of what i'm doing now and what eveyone else is doing now it is worng to juge mock or hate people just because of how they love and yes i do now know much about god but i know for a fact that he would what to have love in the world not hate so if i were you i would ask God for forgiveness and stop mokeing gay people
KELLSONIC 1 year ago 30
So exactly how does gay couples marrying negatively affect a couple in a "traditional marriage"?
I don't understand this about all religions; they are not content with their own fantastical claims, and instead seek to interrupt the lifes of non-believers in the name of "religious freedom" - as phrased on some of the posters. Why can't you keep yourself to yourself; I'm sure if Muslims were trying to impose sharia law you'd be quite opposed to religion mediating it's morals on all citizens.
piprod01 1 year ago
this is what the extreme left always does when they can't have it their way. they crassly impinge on other peoples rights. they're lunatics and soooo hypocritical.
gardenvarietypenis 1 year ago
Do we still live in America? Do we still have freedom of speech and religion? And what about elections? Do they still count? Well, if you answered YES to these questions, then Mormons have as EQUAL a say as HOMOSEXUALS. And if the state VOTED DOWN the proposition, who is being CRY BABIES to protest people's RIGHTS to VOTE. THEY HAVE SPOKEN. DEAL WITH IT!
Photoglogal 1 year ago
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@Photoglogal yet mormons have more rights than homosexuals
idaman12345 1 year ago
In regards to the issue of marriage we simply choose to defend a man and a woman=marriage. This is much different than hate as those steeped in ignorance, intolerance and hatred themselves would have you believe. I know what I believe and I love Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Ghost I also love all people even if they lie-which they are doing, persecute and despitefully use us. "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." Jesus Christ (John 15:18)
AnFhirinne 1 year ago
We have always taught unconditional love of all races, cultures and all people including homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers, and those who don’t live or follow God’s commandments and this includes even those who we do not agree with for whatever reason. "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:40)
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 2
Someone should point out to Chris Li, that in this Constitutional Democracy, people are supposed to be equal.
Not the reality of Communism, which George Orwell pointed out as "some people being more equal than others"
osummuso 1 year ago
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Eventually this will run its course to the point that after they've milked this whole "Gay the New Black" slogan till it dries the bucket will see caucasians (Regardless of gender) revert back to being their natural selves when their typical behavior: weak men and woman hiding being a token person(s) of ethnicity; Flavor will be stale. IF the news or the politicians don't find a way to "desensitize" it first of course. Becoming appearant it can no longer be of use to effect the Obama cabinet.
Sileni 1 year ago
Mormans are some whacked out muthas, for sure, but the total willingness to demonize other Americans in the name of, whatever the Mormons believe in, since they are a closeted cult I can't tell, is just Un-American. Why do you hate civil rights so much? WTF are you really doing in those temples, starry eyed cult leaders? Your cynicism is total, what a waste of capitol, both political and social. Get some ethics, please. Prop 8 = epic fail! cost? 40 million and counting.
kern0099 1 year ago
OVERTURNED! HAHHAHAHA!!!!!
DarcyTV1 1 year ago 4
@DarcyTV1 Getting appealed! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
mikeyrobins022585 1 year ago
@mikeyrobins022585 poor closet case. It's okay, pretty soon, you'll be able to admit to everybody why you were so worked up about homosexuality.
Leda333 1 year ago
@Leda333 Whatever dude.
mikeyrobins022585 1 year ago
We don't vote on basic human rights, people!
dougules 1 year ago
Out of all the videos I've seen this is the VERY BEST!!! THANK YOU for standing up to these radical perverts who are trying to destroy the natural family and expect the rest of society to mutually respect weirdos with warped sexual practices. You are AWESOME!!!
Exciteme777 1 year ago
Now its our turn to see the Yes on 8 cry babies! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
So babies are gay? I hope you do not gay bash your baby, I will call child protective services on you.
juxtn 1 year ago
This is too dang funny....cry babies....really!
1956etol 1 year ago
God put Adam and Eve on dis earth not Adam and another man. ppl think.if we let gays to get married and adopt children, the next gen will think its ok to be gay. WHICH ITS NOT!!!!! yu must think bout our childrens future.
123titile 1 year ago
@123titile god didnt put adam and eve on this earth
god is man made
it is ok to be gay
what would be wrong is for our children to believe that god is real
idaman12345 1 year ago
They don't get it. The more they scream, the less likely we are to vote for them.
They might get votes if they acted professional in any way.
Jakob19490 1 year ago
Idaman, marriage is not an institution of the state. Marriage is an institution of religion and was first incorporated into religion. If homosexuals want Church and state separate, then marriage should be no part of a political homosexual agenda. Is it any wonder why Prop 22 and Prop 8 both passed in California? No matter how many times the GLBT movement tries to press the issue and rob faiths of the marriage institution, people will always take a stand for God and do what is right.
ScottyLDS 1 year ago
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OwRdrKsTdAySBeCk 1 year ago
have these ppl. never heard of ANNOYNMOUS donations, stupid its there fault! idiotes! i gave a money order to the yes on 8 canpane w/o signing my name way before this. also NOM fuck u i want to donate annoynmosly but u don't alow that. also allow me to bonk u over the head YOU`DE GET MORE $ IF YOU DID!!!!!
bluemoon014 1 year ago
WTF!!!
keller9daphne 1 year ago
to make fun of people is never the right way to do things. I supported prop 8 but the title of this video makes me sick. Show compassion even if you don't believe what they believe.
collegesports1 1 year ago
how exactly is making public knowledge public knowledge unamerican?
if im not mistaken you can find out who donated what to any campaign so what the gays did was not unamerican
idaman12345 1 year ago
no it wasn't unamerican, but it was inmoral. to abuse and destroy someones property because of a political choice is wrong. The Gay community should no all about that. The abuse on them because of there choice is wrong, so to turn around in such hatred is nothing more than a hate crime.
collegesports1 1 year ago
I saw on another video that some gay leader couldn't even pronounce LDS Prophet Monson's name, no wonder Mormons kicked ass on Prop 8!!!
If Gays knew their adversary they could have exposed immoral Mormon racism that exists to this day. Yes, the Mormon PR machine would love for everyone to believe LDS racism ended in 1978
But we have never repudiated or apologized for our racism so it stands to this day as valid doctrine, statements & teachings
I'm Justa: Pro-truth Latter-day Saint
justamusta 1 year ago
This is really sad.
Rosina57NZ 1 year ago
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i don't understand their need to get married, they live together anyway. They just want to be accepted by everyone I guess, which is not possible at this moment... the problem is that everyone says:" This is a free country", "This is my country too!", being free doesn't mean we have the right to harm other people or destroy our society.
josue679 2 years ago
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@vintageyellow71 and what point are you proving by taking advantage and exploiting others misery and sadness after your church and your money took their civil rights away? Who is the cry baby here....go back to your fairy tale book of Morons and stay there. Leave sane people to live their lives as they wish and people will let you use your magic underwear as much you want.
ToddDoesitRight 2 years ago
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ToddDoesitRight 2 years ago
Fucking Chris Li deserves to lose business. Fucking bigot donated 1,000 to end civil rights for 10% of Americans.
jasedotcom 2 years ago 12
keep crying!! you make my point so eloquently:)
vintageyellow71 2 years ago
go fuck yourself thier not crying thier proveing a point and you would be protesting too if you couldnt marry the person u love
lesbin0000 2 years ago
@vintageyellow71
Isn't homosexuality against the natural order of things? Wasn't it ADAM & EVE not ADAM & STEVE or EVE & EVA? Look at these libtard morons & defilers of the natural order cry about the fact that Cali is not allowing them to further screw up the families more than they already have. Isn't San Fran the gay capital of the US? Now 10% of the ppl & their supporters are boycotting businesses b/c of the businesses supporting No on prop 8? I DETECT MASS AMOUNTS OF BUTT HURT!
LucaviAD 2 years ago
yeah but the mormon church illegally supported prop h8
separation of church and state
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345
The Mormons do a lot of things that are illegal & immoral, so it comes as no surprise that they did this. How about you?
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago
seperation of church and state doesn't mean that the state can strip a people of there religous freedoms. By the way the members of the LDS church supported prop 8, the church orginazation did not put a dime into the cause.
collegesports1 1 year ago
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the church organization did not put a dime into the cause.
have any actual proof of this?
why should non tax paying cults have more rights than good tax paying american citizens
idaman12345 1 year ago
@ idaman12345 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and its generous donation to protect moral integrity also protects the churches of its faith as well as others from discrimination lawsuits rendered by same-sex couples who would most assuredly be denied to marry in their chapels or church buildings because such a union is as the scriptures describe "an abomination to God."
The LDS protected churches from being subject to the whims of the abomination against creation and God.
ScottyLDS 1 year ago
What this cult did was illegal
Seperation of chirch and state
Tax these mor(m)ons
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345
Will you also cry to tax the Catholic church, and many Protestant -based churches whose members were strongly encouraged to financially support Prop 8? I guess not because your intolerance and hatred only goes so far, huh? Prop 8 passed. God won this battle over Satan. Get over it.
ScottyLDS 1 year ago
@ScottyLDS how many of the churches themselves donated money
answer: none (other than the mormon church)
"god" may have won, but in reality good normal people lost
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345
The Church itself used the tithing of members of the Church who so designated offerings to support Proposition 8. The leadership of the church was only using the funds members of the Church so designated!
And I assure you that if anyone is calling "gay" people that f-word that you used, it isn't any LDS member I know. It might be a member of Westboro Baptist Church. If you want to know what real hatred looks like, then take a look at that church's ministry.
ScottyLDS 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 and you prove your point by being a completely arrogant and rude bigot.
ToddDoesitRight 2 years ago
@vintageyellow71: who's crying? Prop 8 supporters like YOU, vintageyellow (how appropriate that you choose "yellow" as part of your name... as in cowardly). I know damn well that the mormon church didn't violate law by encouraging their members to vote and contribute money to Prop 8. Likewise, you should realize that publicizing the names of these supporters, as well as boycotting them, is completely LEGAL. So stop your whining and crying already! This video simply proves it!
Kaileo1 1 year ago 2
@vintageyellow71 Sorry, but the courts have held that those who engage in political fundraising and giving have no expectation of privacy.
That you want to keep your names secret demomnstrates how emotionally vile your politics are. SO WHO"S REALLY CRYING?
moopism 1 year ago
@moopism
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind moopism
vintageyellow71 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 Yeah, I feel better. And now that both the DOMA and DADT have also been found unconstitutional, I feel even better.
Here's a hint: if you want to score a point that is relevant in my life, you're going to have to do better than falling back on your little fairy tales of the cosmic boogeyman.
moopism 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71,
Not everyone believes in your God.
ElectricShark 1 year ago
@moopism
Are you so stuck on yourself that you think I really care a rats ass about you? Wow, you're nothing to me and nothing in general frankly
vintageyellow71 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71
Really? Then why the need to even respond?
Not only are you a fucking liar, but a bad one at that. Thanks for the laugh.
moopism 1 year ago
@moopism
Hey moon beam, did you not get enough breast feeding when you were a child? I sure enjoy sharing with you how much of a moron you are. Get a life. Make a video rather then type garbage to people me who wag you like a dog.
vintageyellow71 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 What does making a halfassed video have anything to do with the validity of my viewpoint?
Or breastfeeding?
You don't wag shit. You are typical of the cretinous Mormons that would rather piss away millions of dollars to lose a battle that leaves the broader public repulsed by your faith instead of putting that money into helping the poor.
When you're exposed you argument s sound like the king of shit 3rd graders come up with to taunt each other. So very sad.
moopism 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 as for me i can see how much you enjoy sharing how much of a moron you are
victorapellegrinosc 1 year ago
The bible is the word of god. jesus came to show us how to live the word of god and if those people who call themselfs real christians should know that jesus would have voted and sided with the mormon church. and it would matter how many poeple where it upset or made mad. the poeple voted their voice was heard now get over it(stop crying)
TheAna262 2 years ago
The Mormon cult prefers a theocracy. If Mormons had their way, women would be property, black forlk would be second class citizens and gays would be executed.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago 13
You're a real ridiculous person. This is so stupid.
vintageyellow71 2 years ago
@vintageyellow71 now, how Christ like is it to call people names like you do? You give Christianity a bad name. Then again, Mormons aren't really Christians as they believe in the Book or Morons in where is says Jesus travelled to America among other interesting little fairy tales...talk about ridiculous.
ToddDoesitRight 2 years ago
@vintageyellow71
Like the belief that a illiterate charlatan by the name of Joseph Smith found some golden plates on a hill in New York: which he alone could look upon and live; translate - then, after, the plates were "returned to an angel" before anyone else could try to read them.
piprod01 1 year ago
@vintageyellow71 sorry bub, I've lived in Mormon country and I know first hand how you exclude all outsiders from access to housing, jobs, and the political process. calling that point of view stupid doesn't change the FACT of your church's acts.
moopism 1 year ago
@moopism
Are you feeling better now that you told me off? Boy, you really let me have it there. There are things you can't do anything about yourself. Like the disregard for a living God and not caring whether you are on his side or on the side of Satan. For your info, you need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and fight for what is right.
Don't bother trying to write, Make a video response to my video and tell me with your own face and voice instead of hiding behind moopism
vintageyellow71 1 year ago
@AtlasShruggery
This is over the top. Perhaps instead of the word "Mormon" you must mean the word "Muslim" since such practices ARE still practiced in Islamic nations today. The homosexual agenda is one without the highest form of love. You see it in the actions and speech by practically everyone that supports that agenda--the use of derogatory language, explicit actions of hate and intolerance to those of faith, and the rape of the US Constitution to undermine "good" for selfish purposes.
ScottyLDS 1 year ago
@ScottyLDS really have you seen some of the posts by the anti gay agenda, faggot this faggot that, gays arent trying to "undermine good" they want equality
idaman12345 1 year ago
@AtlasShruggery Then why did a Mormon woman win as the first woman senator in the U.S., her name being Martha Hughes Cannon, and also a polygamous wife as well. Her status never prevented her from completing law school, having three kids, and beating her husband in the election, didn't stop her from making it into Congress. Pretty funny isn't it?
suemorphplus2009 1 year ago
@AtlasShruggery
It doesn't matter WHO they are or WHAT they believe - YOU prove THAT! It's about the American way - and the PC attitude that says ALL BELIEFS ARE EQUAL and THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG. Are you saying you disagree with those premises? If NOT, then stop COMPLAINING! You had your vote and so did they. If the voting process is to remain valid, we ALL have to abide by the MAJORITY vote - whether we agree or NOT.
Photoglogal 1 year ago
@Photoglogal
Whether you Mormons like it or not, we have a Constitution which protects the rights of minorities.
AtlasShruggery 1 year ago
@Photoglogal Sorry, but the constitution guarantees the rights of the minority from the oppression of the majority. You are coming from a fundamental misunderstanding of the American Republic.
moopism 1 year ago
He doesn't mention that those against prop 8 also raised almost $40mil. So stupid. Why can't these news people be HONEST?
lindalds 2 years ago
I love when so called Christians get all high and mighty with the gay issue. If you were a true follower of jesus and the bible you'd know that it tells you over and over again that its not your job to judge. Keep playing god guys, see where it gets you. You can't stop the bumrush. Homosexuality is now widely accepted, so bitch all you want, but the days of blindly listening to whacked out religious people like you is over. And THANK GOD.
athwbitt 2 years ago 13