Climate change election topples Howard government

[eynshamrood]

ALIVEANDWELL yeah the web site of the HIV denial cunt maggiore.

Google Christina Maggiore wiki. Her daughter, Eliza Jane, died of AIDS at age 3 because her mother was sucked in by an HIV denial cult & decided she wasn't infected by HIV anymore. So she had her baby without treatment, and infected her. And never allowed her to be treated. Dead at 3 from AIDS.

Only justice is maggotwhore recently died of disease consistent with AIDS.

Her new book is DEADANDDUMB

[MRMILO57]

This Clive Hamilton definately has the traits of eco-religious cult leader.

He is one creepy man!

[YadaYadaguy]

australia is halarious.isn't the Queen of AUstrilia in control through her governor ...the Royal family of britian is the royal family of alot of areas and yet we tax payers must pay these puppets...lets ge the show over with long live the queen!

[onemoreterm]

Actually global warming has nothing to do with the drought. Just ask your high school science teachers how rain works.

[JonThm]

Global Warming is phantom science made up by the nuclear industry. And people hate nuclear! But nuclear hates US!

[8data]

Great Analysis

Real News Network

Keep Up the Good Work

[pi550]

There is no such thing as global warming. Scientist just want more money. Climate is forever changing.

[ThumperBunny43]

This is good news. About time some countries started taking global warming seriously. Maybe Australia will do something about all those sheep giving off greenhouse gases. More people should go vegan since it's farmed animals that are the biggest contributors to greenhouse gases. People have got to start looking at what they are doing and kick the oil habit and the meat habit or we'll all be in the frying pan.

[petergoesonair]

If people outside of Oz stop buying, I'm sure you will see movement there.

[pi550]

What a load of rubbish. Why don't you tell people to turn off their air conditioning and computers and stop using so much electricity.

[hqlion]

CO2 global warming is BS. Carbon is a life giver. Climate always has and always will change. Don't know the weather in a months time, but people believe predictions of global climate in a century- the sheeple are stupid. The global elite want one world government, to control/tax the common people. Carbon credits a global currency to keep the rich, rich and the poor, poor- wake up!

[rentonbrae]

I agree carbon is a life giver, all life on earth is based upon it. However, carbon dioxide is not, breathe pure CO2 and you'll suffocate. Climate has always and will always change but you seem to be confused with natural changes in climate and anthropomorphic climate change (human caused).

[rentonbrae]

Are you suggesting that the predictions made by the worlds most powerful computers combined with our brightest climate scientists are on a par with the predictions made by local weather services? You simply cannot compare them.

[hqlion]

O.K. how can a system tell the world climate in a century, but I can't get the weather and temperature forecast for one day for one region in a months time. Computers don't think for themselves, they are a tool. Humans program them rubbish in, rubbish out. Hey the computer scientists said that Y2k would be bad- that was a couple of years out (I'm sure they did simulations for that too). Co2 follows temp. not the other way around.

[rentonbrae]

That's assuming rubbish is going in, while computer experts may not have got it right with Y2K that was because there was no precedent, we have 650,000 years of climate and co2 concentration records to go by, thanks to ice cores. With Y2K the scientists were unsure as to what exactly was going to happen, with global warming we can see the link with CO2 concentration and temperature and can predict that higher CO2 means higher temperature but just how much is what the computers are for.

[kwestyunz]

Howard was liberal? wtf, he was so far up Bush's ass...

[petergoesonair]

The Liberal Party of Australia is right of centre. It is more akin to a conservative party. It is a full member of IDU.

"The International Democrat Union (IDU) is an international grouping of conservative, nationalist, classical liberal, anti-Communist and some Christian democratic political parties." (from the Wikipedia)Howard was/is current the chairman of the IDU. He's a war monger.

[kwestyunz]

Thank you, very illuminating... btw, how would categorize the new party's designation conversative/liberal versus Howard?

[petergoesonair]

I have already tried sending comments and they have not gone through.I have tried several times.Very frustrating! I will be back another time to respond. I'm sort of not expecting this to go though...

[petergoesonair]

The Australian Labor Party (ALP) is the oldest political party in Oz. It developed out of the trade union movement. It like the Labour Party in Britain is a full member of the Socialist International (SI)."The Socialist International is a worldwide organization of social democratic, labour, and democratic socialist political parties."(Wikipedia). Not that tells you anything Blair took Britain to war for GWB. The new ALP PM refers to himself as an "economic conservative".

[pi550]

The 1891 Shearers' Strike is one of Australia's most important industrial disputes. Working conditions for sheep shearers in 19th century Australia were atrocious. In 1891 wool was one of Australia's largest industries. But as the wool industry grew, so did the number and influence of shearers.

[pi550]

At their annual conference in Bourke in 1890, the Union laid down a new rule, which prohibited members from working with non-union workers. Soon after, shearers at Jondaryan Station on the Darling Downs went on strike over this issue. As non-union labour was still able to process the wool, the Jondaryan shearers called for help. The Rockhampton wharfies responded and refused to touch the Jondaryan wool. The unionists won the battle.

[pi550]

This galvanised the squatters, and they formed the Pastoralists' Federal Council, to counter the strength of the unions. The battle lines were drawn, conflict was not far away; the only question was where and when.

[pi550]

Crap. Rubbish.He was not a war monger.

[petergoesonair]

Okay, I do believe that Baltasar Garzón did not

personally include John Howard in his list, just some of Mr.Howard's allies. "Spain judge says Bush and Iraq war allies should face war crimes charges."

[AgnesBojaxhiu2000]

Global warming wreaks havoc with nature (polar bears, butterfiles, frogs, bats, squid, ... ) ... and they never say bee ... while the GW greenhouse gas infrared heat is killing the bumblebee and honey bee ... anyway ... food prices rise ... then soar .. then be not available no matter what the cost ... the rushie neocons say that GW is a hoax that food, drought water, and health care are not needed ... that the role of govt is not to care for its people but to get more oil in iraq

[pongman]

The best way to end global warming is for everyone to stop fucking. There are over six billion people on this planet. We don't need anymore people.

[phortiphy]

I agree. Perhaps put more ... nice... Our rate of reproduction is indeed the root cause of global warming as it creates economic pressures, resulting in environmental devastation. Pressure is upon us to examine our 'need' to reproduce, and to redefine our idea of Economy.

[takotheoktopus]

Having kids shouldn't be so damn easy. If you have to have a license to drive a car, shouldn't the same be for child rearing?

[visioninverse]

Or... Since we don't need a license for having babies, we shouldn't have a license for driving a car.

Do you see how your argument (thought) is completely irrational?

[visioninverse]

It is futile to try to stop climate change. The climate has been changing forever. The best thing we can do is adapt to the challenges we face. Burning oil as fuel is like smoking, once you pop you just can't stop. Oil is an addiction, and how to people get rid of addictions?

[skippynhguy]

Our election in USA regarding Climate Change was held in a snowstorm. I think Governments just like weather (NOT climate) is cyclical. The fools that voted because of a drought/draught will be proven wrong during the 'rainstorms' of 2010 in Australia. A smart conservative politician should build an arc starting tomorrow.

[IQchallenged]

You could very well be right. Problem is, if your wrong, and we do nothing, our childrens children may not have an environment in which they can survive. If we do something now and mainstream scientist are proved wrong, yes we will have wasted a lot of money, but at least the air will be fitter for breathing.

[immanent]

The "doing something" proposed by ultra-national governing bodies that are not accountable to you (such as the U.N.) include oppressing the energy needs of third world countries that are trying to develop and feed starving peoples. Instead the World Bank/IMF come in and lend these poor countries tons of cash to afford "alternative energy." Their economies collapse, people starve more.

[IQchallenged]

I was only thinking about western countries that can afford to go to clean energy (as we have caused the pollution), but yes you are correct, a balanced approached must be used for developing countries, thanks for correcting me.

[takotheoktopus]

I wouldn't say it's a waste of money if future generations can breath better.

[ChuckDuck051]

Climate change is real and America needs a president who will do something about it. That person is Dennis Kucinich.

Kucinich 2008!!

[cityview1989]

Their fooling the public. Its warming EVERYWHERE, Mars, Venus, etc. Its about that time. Its a cycle people.

[PersonalJesus348]

yeah but that cycle wasn't suppose to happen for another 1,000 years. Now its going to happen in 100 or if we keep things up 50.

[cityview1989]

Its 1 degree higher. Its nothing to worry about. Back then in the 70's they said the world is going to face a "Ice-age" and NOW were saying its going to be hell on Earth. Enviomentalist are paranoid. Its 1 degree, relax

[PersonalJesus348]

you do realize 1 degree does a lot of damage if it sooner than it should happen. And we avoided an ice age because it was getting HOTTER. face it. Its going to burn.

[happyprometheus]

The point is that the industrial power behind the modern civilisation is consuming planetary resources and disturbing (e.g. polution)eco-processes which took milions of yours to evolve and create the biosphere. It simply cannot go on like this forever, with or without global warming.

[lidixmang]

If every person in the world believed in global warming, then everyone would take this seriously and start living green. But they don't believe it so they don't live it.

Global carbon tax?

Pay a tax for permission to burn petroleum.

[cityview1989]

YEAH!!!!!

[PersonalJesus348]

there's nothing believe. The evidence is clear. I know that we have a Global Climate Crisis. Its going to warm in some areas and cool in others. But it still warms the GLOBAL temperature. Thus melting the ice on our planet. The best reflectors of sunlight.

[cityview1989]

Im not denying its warming. Im agreeing with you, BUT its warming EVERYWHERE in our solar-system. Its something we cant prevent. Its time of the cycles.

[PersonalJesus348]

umm. Its been extremely hot in mercury and venus for eons. How would you know if those planets are warming. Also they estimate those temperatures. The only way to know for sure would be to go there. Which is impossible. No way a human could even set foot, much less land in that kind of enviroment.

[immanent]

Space (dot) com has several articles from NASA I believe which indicate that the temperatures of planets and moons across the solar system are increasing. We can rove around on Mars, send satellites that land on comets, and drop things into Jupiter's atmosphere and you don't think NASA can figure out temperature?