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  • those who have not accepted Christ or heard the Gospel preached by Jesus or the Apostles will have a chance to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior that is called the second resurrection after the 1000 year reign with Christ as Lord of Lords and King of Kings. Read people read dont let these people lead you to the lake of fire

  • John 14:

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

  • "there couldn't possibly be just one way!" is not a logical argument. oprah is relying on emotion rather than reasoning, so her argument is just not valid.

  • *Catholics

  • @phxflyguy : It's not that I live under a rock it's just the christians that I'm surrounded by don't do that. Also Chathlics aren't christians. A christian not only accepts Jesus as their lord, but also understands that the one you must pray to is Jesus. Not Mary.

  • I am so pleasantly surprised that Oprah is beyond the mediocre, that she is so open-minded! Well done, Oprah, admire you! And Americans are such backward people! "We are from Ohio, we do not talk about sex in Ohio!" Nor do you talk about anything other than money that is between going to church, do not question anything and vote for presidents like G W Bush!

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  • @internetangel77 Yeah, you're right.... JESUS is the ONLY WAY!!! I realize that now... so I'm going to change my ways & follow JESUS & only JESUS. This way I get to be an asshole & a prick to everyone. I get to murder people, rob banks, & twist the heads off babies! Being kind to my fellow man, & contributing positively to society & the world as a whole MEANS NOTHING. I was send here only to be nice to JESUS... fuck the 6 Billion people on this shithole of a planet!!! Right?

  • Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through i

  • Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

  • I can speak from direct experience of being involved with Gurus, a course in miracles and many new age practices for over 30 years - When all is said and done The Holy Bible and Christ Jesus is the only way - everything else is a diabolical lie to lead you into eternal hell - never seek guidance from extremely wealthy people who have their comfort and reward in this world - if you died tomorrow they would never know about it, nor would they care. Save your own soul.

  • Dumb white bitch cant grab her low iq mind around that concept.

  • @dagoose109: Okay what other religion do we mock? I have yet to hear any christian mock another religion so don't put that on us. We don't do that and we can care less about the respect of the world. God's respect is the only respect that matters and is worth earning.

  • @WLH3eLiTe "Okay what other religion do we mock?" Um, all of them all of the time. It's kind of commanded in the Bible for you to do so. You've never heard a Christian mock Islam, Scientology, Wicca, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, etc? I hear it all the time. I even hear Christians mocking people from other denominations (i.e. "Catholics aren't real Christians" or "Jehovah's Witnesses are crazy"). You've been living under a rock if you've never heard Christians mocking other religions.

  • Christ didn't get oprah to where she is today. God sure. Christ was the physical manifestation of god's light/energy. Oprah got herself there from the rural racist Mississippi knowing she couldn't so it without some sort if high power

  • What Logically Bible says is that U can't be With God (Heaven) if u are a sinner. for ur sin you deserve Punishment which is called Hell. Since you can't lead a life with out doing any sin u need Jesus christ (THE ONLY ONE) to bear ur punishment behalf of u. It will be applicable only if u belive and accept him as your LORD. if not u will get the punishment only for what u have done. It doesn't matter whether u heared about Jesus or not coz sin is sin and all the human know what is gud n evil.

  • " I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas Gandhi

  • By Judging the way christians do it only sets them away from their own belief.

  • religion is religion... God is God..

    They are NOT one in the same.. Religion is only a way by which to believe in God or a God.. Ultimately, I think it is all based on ppls hearts... otherwise.. half of the world would be going to hell... sweet tender innocent people who live good and humle lives.. are they to go to hell.. lol.. common people.. stop with the sensitivity... be good and love one another..

  • I applaud the woman who had the guts to stand up to QUEEN OPRAH.. seriously , i hope god blessed her for standing up for the unpopular choice.. i know it wasnt easy for her. Its probably so hard for the spirit to reside in oprahs studio.

  • I'm no Oprah fan but I agree with her 100%.

  • Oprah makes an excellent point. So anyone who disagrees can suck it!

  • Maybe she is speaking out respect for Judaism and Islam.

  • I am Satan ooga booga boo!!!

  • we americans want everything easy. 

  • I typically never liked Oprah much, but...this just gave me hope.

  • Yeahhhhhh Oprah !

    so many fanatical christians want to control everyone's mind

    I call them the Christian Taliban

  • why did the clip stop before the woman answered Oprah's question?

  • @dancingsquirrel I totally agree with you. She doesn't know she is deceived. Satan uses very powerful people to reach the multitudes. Many people will be lost due to Oprah's power. Please tell as many people that you can.

  • @heartforgod7 what?

  • Oprah joined the dark side, I have no idea why people watch her.

  • @TheGunPulseClan because she has a brain and she uses it. She is willing to question the beliefs that were handed down to her in order to get at the truth. If using your brain is joining the dark side we are in trouble. Jesus also asked tough questions in his day. He threw out the dogma handed down by the priests and rabbis. Why can we not do the same when his message has been distorted and abused by men. So much intollerance coming from the followers of one who loved his enemies. Sad. Very sad.

  • @claudelebel55 Yes she does have a brain, and using it to brainwash Christians.

    Your probably part of her church, right? So that makes you brainwashed.

    Yes It's good to ask questions

    I question 9/11 and other government stuff. Yes even some of the bible knowing the government) controls everything. It doesn't mean I'm not a Christian if I don't agree with everything.

  • @TheGunPulseClan ..... she cannot 'brainwash' christians as you say. Those who listen to her do so willingly because what she says resonates with them. Those who don't agree with her need only change channels and do battle with their own demons as Ted Haggard eventually had to do.

  • Christianity reeks of Spiritual Pride.

  • ITS DARK AND HELL IS HOT

  • Oprah is right on! It baffled me how some people can be so intolerant about other religions.

  • @slurrrpee : Exactly, and she is so courageous to go out and speak the truth, knowing that soooo many people (esp. Christians) will disagree with her strongly.

  • @mdlittle2010 Oprah isn't courageous, only powerful, Satan is using her to deceive multitudes. She doesn't know she is deceived. Please be careful. I tell you this out of love. There is only one way to be saved and that is to be born again through Jesus. Satan knows what he is doing. He uses very powerful people to deceive the world. Most of the world is deceived. Please pray that the Holy Sprit gives you the light.

  • @heartforgod7 : I have seen the light. Thanks for your concern though.

  • @mdlittle2010 Your all hypocrites, and reak of fear of the savior that you have denied. I love how you people always play the numbers game. your tricks and devices are getting stale and out dated. maybe you should ask satan to give you some more catchy sayings. The reason that there are so many Christians is because We Are on the winning team. Your a defeatist loser that wants to lose and be punished. your just a bad kid that acts up when daddy is gone on bizness trip, he will return!!

  • @slurrrpee Its not intolerance, why would God send his son to die horribly on a cross if there were another way?

  • @Stangil1 it IS intolerance. NO religion (all man-made) has any authority to say their truth (of many truths) is the ONLY way. All truths lead to the ONE. Christ in principle displayed how we should live our life by showing love and compassion to all. To truly understand all that God is is far beyond what any human can comprehend, so there's no way some religion has God "figured out". Religions are just different interpretations of the One Power. Each interpretation is no better than the other.

  • @slurrrpee So are you saying that Oprahs actions in this video aren't "intolerant" to Christians? You probably despise christians and christ, thats why you applaud Oprah. oprah loves to create confusion and division, there is only two choices in this life, Satan and Jesus. Now who do you think she loves more? Don't be a fool. Your a child of god, not someone that listens to this media whore. She doesnt give a shit about you, she is fueling your own destruction by decieving you. 

  • @TankMacnamara81 No it is not intolerant to Christians. She's saying that there are many paths to enlightenment including Christianity. Exclusive ideas that Christianity is the only way is what will continue to ignite religious conflict around the world. The root of many religions is Love. When we focus on Love for ourselves and one another, we can see past our differences and the world will be a better place. Blessings.

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  • @slurrrpee All i needed to hear is the part where she blasphemously said "WHAT ABOUT JESUS"? To anyone that believes in JESUS CHRIST, This was quite a low blow, and very disrespectful.  Especially since Oprah sins were paid for by Christ and he went through so much for her. do u guys not get that? that Christians truly believe that. I'm sure most of you that follow Oprah appluaded and cheered. But it is the spirit of satan that you felt and he is happy when people mock and ignore Christ. peace

  • @TankMacnamara81---So Christianity can mock every other religion on earth and expect respect in return? No wonder Insanity and Vanity rhyme with it!

  • @slurrrpee sorry but oprah is not right cause every one will have a chance to hear the Gospel and be giving a chance to accept Christ either before or after the 1000 year reign of Christ but she wouldnt know cause she to busy trying to become richer and richer

  • @lilmoepal and how do you know this will happen? You don't. It is all a belief. There is no way to prove it will happen.

  • Holy crap... Oprah was hot... Anyways, God IS a man made idea, he has as much power over a person who follows him, and a person that doesnt. Humans created him, humans can create others. End. Of. Discussion.

  • @Namehereplz98 thats a lie

  • It is useless for people to debate religion cause it is based on faith. No one can actually prove that their way is the right way. The debate will just go in circles everytime.

  • Oprah is right in one point. Yeah, every way can bring you to God (to condemnation). But for salvation there's only one way and His name is Jesus Christ!!!!

    One day her pretty knees will bow down before Him!!!!

  • If you take time to consider what most of the audience is saying it's rather funny it's the clarion call of every religion that has ever existed "our way is the only way" ..... "we're right everyone else is wrong"...... "the only way to god is to believe what we believe" ...... not forgetting the classic "believe what we do, or die"

  • for those that don't know.Jesus is God in flesh. God is a spirit.You definitely cannot go to heaven just because you are doing right. also about the "rapture" nobody knows when it will come. Only the Father knows. If we knew when the Lord was coming trust me nobody would live right. He can come whenever he wants to. He is in control of everything. So even if you are doing right and you haven't given your life to him, you're still a lost soul

  • @LLewis98381 "for those that don't know.Jesus is God in flesh" how can that be possible? the bible says "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only" how can the Father know something the son doesn't know if the Father IS the son?

  • @LLewis98381 s ay that pastour of yours ic quite the dresser aint he,yea,hey look up these chapters and leave me a coment aright..John ch20 vs17,Luke ch10vs27,28.Mark ch12 vs26,29.Heaven on earth ministries.Trinihorseman.

  • First off God does have a son!! His son is Jesus Christ. Anyway Jesus is the only way to get to heaven for those that don't know. Second of all he was sent here for 2 purposes. He was sent here to teach us about God in the flesh. He was sent here to die as well so our sins can be forgiven. Everybody in this world sins. If Jesus didn't die for our sins, everybody would go to hell. You can't go to heaven just because you do everything right. You have to give your life to him.

  • first thing !

    GOD DOES NOT HAVE A SON

    second thing

    MARYAM WAS LONELY GOD BRING JEBREEL TO BLOW IN MARYAM STOMACH

    WHEN SHE GET PREGENT PEOPLE THOUGHT SHE WAS A WIZARD OR A WITCH ! THAN "JESUS" SPOOKED THE TRUTH !

    HERE'S THE TRUE FACT JESUS ISN'T GOD'S SON , HE'S THE MESSENGER OF CHRISTIANITY THAN PEOPLE CHANGED THE CHRISTIAN BOOK !LOT'S OF MESSENGER CAME THE MOHAMMAD CAME IN THE ONLY RELIGION THAT NEVER CHANGED IT'S ISLAM YOU CAN SEARCH ABOUT IT I WAS CHRISTIAN TELL WHEN I FIND THE TRUTH :)

  • Good job Christians. Some good stuff your Jesus worship did. Christianity is just as vile and disgusting as Islam, death, destruction of millions of human lives in the middle east. This "Christian" nation didn't lift a finger to stop it. But go ahead, I won't stop you keep believing in your fairy tales. Fuck America.

  • @DeadRetardedBabies I feel sorry for you and I will pray for you...

  • Oprah is a divider, not a uniter.

  • yeah, it's indeed a threat. a threat to sanity and reason. we all saw how well that rapture of yours went, when's the next one??

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  • All the creatards are outraged. Screw the morons.

  • Oprah is the antichrist. I been said that

  • she means Christianity is not the only religion... come on guys

  • THIS is what i just have to say, first off i believe in JESUS CHRIST HE'S REAL. JESUS showed his LOVE to u guys the day yall wrote this because you could have ben somewhere sick,hurt even worse DEAD. ONE day he coming back the day he crack the sky will be the day he JUDGE every man and women as well as children to there works. first every KNEE will bow and CONFESS that he is the SUN Of GOD. IT will be too late to choose him then so do it NOW dnt listen to oprah she setting you up 2 go to HELL

  • @staceeification My sister Is Jesus the Lion or the Lamb? I would like you to read I Corinthians ch 15 vs 23 & 28. Then read John ch 20 vs 17 and Rev ch 5 vs 3-5. I am waiting for an answer.

  • @naty0975 John14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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  • 1 way, thats jesus christ. thats all i have to say :)

  • WHy cant people just believe in god or the "higher power"of whatever you want to call it, instead of having to belong to some sort of religious affiliation?

    why must you belong to some exclusive group or organized religion & church?

    Why must The bible or the koran be the "only" way.

    I didnt know that god was material & a classifiable object,nor did I know he takes sides,& hates the same things you do.

    no matter what religion u are,Our paths may be different, but our goals are all the same

  • Denying Jesus is the beginning of Opera's free fall. May God forgive you operah.

  • God would only ask one question

    youtube.com/watch?v=E_oxhAcQnR­o

  • there is only one way jesus is the way the truth and the light without jesus you cannot get to the father, and you always get a chance

  • @TheRoper55 hey dick face suck my fat harry short asian cock . im going buddah and if hell exist il kill the devil.

  • there is only one way jesus is the way the truth and the light without jesus you cannot get to the father

  • I guess I can kinda understand Oprah. But let me say this: If Im wrong about God, I lose absolutely nothing. If she's wrong about God, she has a lot more to lose.

  • Jesus never wanted to become an object of Christian Idolatry.

  • Jesus is in fact the wrong way to go.....Oprah is right in a sense but she does not have the whole picture.....Jesus means Latin man and in fact is the bright and morning star, so is SATAN who was called the bright and morning star. No one is dieing and going to heaven. Heaven and hell are right here on earth. It is input for outlook. How you look at the world is what you would put out.

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  • @naty0975 I have no idea what you are talking about, but if you really knew what you were talkin about u would make more since. Lucifer was an angel that got kicked out of heaven and turned to Satan when he went to hell. Before you try and say things like that make sure its right

  • If you believe there are many ways to heaven or to God other than through the shed blood of Jesus Christ you are simply wrong. Jesus said to see God is to see him. And that many will try to come to God in many ways but the only way is through Jesus and his death upon the cross for the sins of man. Anything else is a false religion and Oprah is teaching this doctrine of hers that we are all gods within ourselves. So very wrong & she will see the truth soon enough. Too bad for her...

  • @shatomea---It is truly amazing how Christians condemn every other religion and Christian denomination as delusional except their own. As long as you insist your way is the only way, you can be certain that it is your ego at work instead of God. May you be saved from yourself.

  • @dagoose109 Well said. You stated everything I felt like saying. If only people could escape their egos and find truth.

  • @clintwilson2010---Thanks! You might like some of the exchanges on "Oprah; Jesus Did Not Come To Die On The Cross". Quite a lively debate there. Aloha

  • I don't really like Oprah as a person but she has a point and I like her point because I think it's real. I really don't like Christianity and Islamism but I like Jesus to a certain degree.

  • We need to focus on the 'Christ' part of Jesus. The Christ (or 'agape') aspect is unconditional love and that's what God is all about, and religions or other spiritual pursuits (by yourself or with others) that focus on that are on the right track. The more we can love God and one another unconditionally the more heavenly we make our own lives now and in the afterlife even if someone has never been exposed to Jesus in this current lifetime of theirs. Love is the path to Heaven.

  • @MrPeace2u----If you are a Christian you should send some spiritual enlightenment to the others. Awe and Agape......yes!

  • @MrPeace2u Loving God and others does not get us into Heaven. Believing that JESUS Christ is the Son of God, accepting the sacrifice He made on the cross on our behalf, and confessing Him as our Lord and Savior is the only way to Heaven.

    If you have been given the opportunity to make that decision and choose not to, you will not go to Heaven. You will be cast into hell because that sacrifice is what covers our sin. Whether you are a loving person or not, you cannot love the way God does.

  • @Bayareacwgrl---Who in their right mind would want to go to Christian Heaven and have to listen to a bunch of sanctimonious Christians for eternity? That would be a sin to anyone's sanity!

  • @MrPeace2u God cannot have sin in His presence, so without Christ's blood (the only perfect Lamb) our sin would stand between us and God.

  • "The moment you accept that your religion is the only way, it becomes an ideology and is a closed door.".......Eckhart Tolle

  • You know what pisses me off. When people quote scripture. Do they really think someone will read it and say "oh well since you put it that way, your right." Not only that but they don't expand upon what their quoting, they just run around copy and pasting words and don't write down anything that comes from their mind. The only one person that has the answers is you. Not a book or a preacher or a voice in your head. Sit down and think for yourself, you will find the truth.

  • Oprah got a point...

  • To all he fucking morons here,

    There is no god, no jesus, it's all bullshit. get over it and quit wasting your life.

  • @LoopQuantumGravity1 you sound angry and intolerant to the truth. What standard are you using to make your claims and how do you explain creation and your own existence? Where do you get your moral standard from?I can't wait to hear your response.

  • @34craigjan How do you explain "creation"? I can't wait to hear your response.

  • ls religious fundaMENTALism serving God and humanity, or is it just serving some people's egos ?

  • She is for me one of those people who dont believe and make people believe more and more for some reason...cant explain why too good but it seems it is so that she is an atheist but talks about religion in new shows and she seems to act like she believes....one that stops believing can not turn to religion again so easily and i remove that as an option....so....why would anybody do that? (i can presume so much things and kinda conclude but wont talk about it too much cause its not so stable)-

  • Well yeah Oprah's right! Of course there's more than one way!

  • Religion is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

  • @cullyvan , what is your epistemology? How do you receive truth and make sense of reality?

  • @34craigjan with all respect craigjan, I'm not sure you have much of an idea what truth and reality are.

  • By saying this,she calls our Savior a liar who said in John 14:6 ;Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

  • @MrProster Has Oprah ever considered the holiness and the true divinity of Jesus Christ?

  • Holy Koran 98:6 "'The unbelievers of the book (Bible) and the pagans shall burn forever in the fires of hell. They are the vilest of creatures." Sound familiar Christians? Like looking in a mirror perhaps?

  • She is a idiot!

  • @cornbreadwillie totally

  • GOD KNOWS OUR HEART - 1 SAMUEL 16;7 - 7 But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

  • Pt 2 - Luke 24: 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”50 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany, he lifted up his hands and blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. 52 Then they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. 53 And they stayed continually at the temple, praising God.

  • Pt. 1 - Luke 24: 44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” 45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

  • Acts 4:12 - 12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD AND THAT IS THROUGH GOD THE SON, OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

  • @Skyheartstar777---If your Christian God is not Omnipresent, then of course there would only be one way there. That would be a straight and narrow minded path directly into the religious rubber room.

  • @dagoose109 For one, Christianity is the teaching of God the Son (Hebrews 1), Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is a productive and loving life, not a life of selfishness and arrogance and self-centeredness and greed that you see so much of in people who live by the ways of the world. The ways of the world are NOT God's ways. People need to turn to Our Lord Jesus Christ who is the exact representation of God the Father (Heb 1).

  • @Skyheartstar777---Not all Christians are Holier Than Thou Hell-Wishers. It would be unfair to generalize. However, no one needs to turn to Christianity to know God. That is just not spiritually sane.

  • @dagoose109 Christianity for your information is the teachings of God the Son (Hebrews Chap 1) Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the EXACT representation of God the Father. John 14:6 - Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Many people are teaching and telling others wrong. The only way to the Father is through the Son.

  • @Skyheartstar777---I am not looking for a father, as I do not perceive God as a parental figure. Look up the word anthropomorphic---it describes Christianity quite well.

  • @dagoose109 if you read Pslam 89, it talks about the coming Messiah and that He would refer to God as His Father. Are you still following your false religion?

  • @34craigjan---All religions including yours are nothing more than the vain imaginings of human beings. If it makes you feel good, then keep on injecting yourself with the opiate of the masses.

  • ALL OF YOU FOOLS are arguing about nothing. There is no proof Jesus existed, or Krishna, Or FLying Spaghetti Monster. WOuld the other 7 billion of you please pull your heads out of your ass!! I order you to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • why most philosophers aren't women.....should be the title of this....

  • @MrPenguinfeather Lol! Wow this does make all other arguments invalid! Those brief words alone brought peace to my heart! Thanks alot!

  • Lol! I'm a Christian. And I must admit that we Christians have painted a picture of an insecure and petty God: "Believe in my Son or go to hell" is not the Gospel. God is not trying to force Jesus down people's throat. We are spiteful beings by nature and fear is a horrible motivator. My goal is not to convert any1 but rather to reveal the true heart of the Father and let the chips fall where they may: God is Love and saw mankind's need for a Savior/Mediator. He is not out to punish but to save.

  • @djdeejay81 We shouldn't need to depend on others to save us - it is our actions that will lead us to God. God's real name is Truth & anyone who leads a truthful, honest life will be close to God, they may be Atheist, theist, agnostic, klingon, whatever.

  • @ramaraksha01 Understanding is of utmost importance. Therefore, I'm not going to disagree with you my friend, I just want to understand where you are coming from. What are ALL the necessary actions that leads one to God and how will one know when they have arrived or are close to God?

  • @djdeejay81 Well the Gita talks about 3 ways to Moksha - Karma Yoga, Gnana Yoga & Bhakti Yoga. None of these involve stepping into a house of worship.

    Karma Yoga - Do ur job, lead a honest life. Don't cheat anyone. Earn a honest paycheck

    Gnana Yoga - Learn, Read & Teach Others

    Bhakti Yoga - This is what the likes of Gandhiji & Mother Teresa did.

    Hope this helps.

  • @ramaraksha01 Ok, how will you know when you have accomplished the goal? How will you know when you are close to God?

  • @djdeejay81 There is no end. Moksha - Knowledge, Enlightenment - this is a jouney but never any end to the pursuit of knowledge. No one can say i am fully enlightened, one can only say I am on the path towards enlightenment.

    God is not a person - God is Truth & Truth is God. This is why an Atheist who never prays to God nor ever enter a house of worship can still be close to God.

    There is a wonderful story in Hinduism - Anasuya was able to defeat the Gods because she had Truth on her side.

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  • @ramaraksha01 Ok, but earlier you mentioned that God's name is Truth implying that He is a person. But now you say He is not a person. And after reading some of the other comments you written on this board, you said that your religion's goal is too earn praises from God. So how can you earn praises of someone who is not a person? You also said that our actions and a life of integrity leads us to God implying that there's a goal to reach. So, how will you know if you are lead to or close to God?

  • @djdeejay81 Has there been instances when u shied away from close relatives & others where u hugged non-relatives? As we grow older unless it is a close parent we move away from certain people because of their attitudes & values & vice versa. In the end God is the same way - ultimately God represents to me the Ultimate Truth. Sadly to most religions he has become as escape hatch, a back door - what will God do for me? he will take care of me & my loved ones after i die etc. cotd

  • @djdeejay81 Hinduism asks u to turn the question on its head - what can I do for God? The goal of Moksha is about becoming part of God ie becoming part of something greater than us. Think of America u think of George Washington, think of emancipation of blacks u think of MLK & Abraham Lincoln - that's Moksha. Moksha is the higher goal, heaven is the cheap goal - pleasures of the flesh.

    Heaven can be begged or groveled for

    Moksha is always EARNED!

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  • Admittedly, I know only the headlines about India. In India today, what group is in conflict with Hinduism? Why? Is it a religious difference, or is it about power, money, land?

    In Hinduism, what is the knowledge (Moksha) the knowledge of? I know that is a broad question but I ask it because I have my own understanding of spiritual knowledge.

  • @160n3rd sorry for the late reply. I guess the good question is which religion isn't in conflict? But basically the proselytizing religions of islam & christianity. They see us dominant & want to convert as many as they can - to do that they use abusive tactics - their main target is the poor & uneducated. Throw some money at them & make them convert - easy tactic. The keep losing thier flock in europe & even in the US atheism is growing so their next target is Asia & Africa

  • @160n3rd sorry for the late reply. the conflict is religious diff - basically with the 2 proselytizing religions - christianity & islam. They are losing their flock in europe & even in the US Atheism is on the rise, so they are hunting for new converts in Asia & Africa. Their target is the poor & uneducated - just throw some money at them & make them convert

  • @160n3rd As for Moksha - there is Heaven & then there is Moksha. Think of anything that u can buy or beg or be simply given - sex, food, drink - all these are heaven, pleasures of the body, no need for any qualification, just win the lottery & u can have all these.

    Hindus are asked to aspire for a higher goal - Moksha. Think of being able to think like Einstein, to create music like Mozart, to be able to sing like MS, to have a heart like Mother Teresa contd

  • @160n3rd Moksha is the Awakening or flowering of the Mind & Heart. You cannot beg or be given Moksha - it has to be EARNED! You can admire the way Yo-yo Ma plays the violen but u can't buy his talent - if want to play like him the only way is thru hard work - it has to be EARNED!

    Now imagine the Einstein of Einsteins, the Yo-yo Ma of Yo-yo Mas, think of the brain power - that's Moksha - Enlightenment, Knowledge! It implores Hindus to be great! to be extraordinary!

  • I'm sure you are right. I do not know what is going on in India. I know that there is horror in many places in the world. I am sorry to hear of it. It's a tricky thing isn't it? To retaliate, makes us what attacks us. The only difference is the "side" we're on. But religion, it seems to me is so often a reason used for attack. When in truth, it is people that attack.

  • I don't see it as a competition, so I wasn't seeing there to be an advantage. I am not of an organized religion as it seems apparent to me that they are a collection of memories trying to be a viable means of understanding new life, the life we live today. It can't work. The old cannot know the new. It only thinks it can.

    I don't wish to compete with your views. I don't wish to disagree with your views. They don't make sense to me, though I hope you will not pass this off as my being ignorant.

  • I'm so glad Oprah said that, but a little dissapointed that she'd give the God bullshit any credence at all. What a silly superstitious species and how doomed because of it. They'll never learn, just like spoiled children they'll all turn to mysticism and irrational theories before using their heads. The Christians with their agenda are just as bad as the new agers. Just as flaky too.

  • Karma & Rebirth means that we do not beg & grovel for mercy. Hindus STAND Tall, We hold our head high, we own up to our actions

    Karma & Rebirth means that life is not pointless, it has meaning, it has purpose

    Karma & Rebirth means that we are the keepers of this earth.

    Karma & Rebirth means we Hindus must do the right thing. Asking God to forgive our debts is WRONG – cheating our creditors. We must repay, the right thing to do.

    Karma & Rebirth means that We are not QUITTERS!

  • @ramaraksha01 Show me a confident, proud man and I'll show you a man that is dead inside- Jiddu Krishnamurti

  • @ramaraksha01 Oh what the hell. I won't make you worse off.

    Are you willing to have a rational conversation?

    It's funny that you only think in terms of what religion a person is. You ask "are you this this, are you that?"And you are looking for a bias in me. But not all of us are the slaves of organized thought.

    Krishnamurti was not the "oracle" and doesn't need to be.

    He was a human being who asked the sort of brilliant questions that any person can ask if they are attentive enough.

  • @160n3rd Sure no problem. The reason i ask is that u could be an Atheist or a christian/muslim. Then i can have a better idea of where u are coming from & can frame my answer correctly. Besides it's just good manners, u have the advantage of me, i am in the dark but u know where i stand.

  • @ramaraksha01 The kind of pride and confidence I am talking about is the kind that enslaves you. To have to call yourself better, or "chosen" shows your fear. That kind of pride and confidence is fear. To be strong, effective and happy, you don't need any of that. To teach children this defensiveness will bring conflict, fear and violence into their minds.

  • @160n3rd U are overreacting a bit. This is not to be taken that seriously. Besides u have no idea what is going in India nowadays. Hinduism has been attacked in ages - mocking us for being idolators, caste & told we are going to hell. My aim is to instill some pride & also better knowledge of what Hinduism is teaching us. So many Hindus are all about Temples & our Gods. There is more to Hinduism than that.

    I just used catchy words, nothing wrong with that.

  • @ramaraksha01 You are absolutely right. I should not have been insulting. I act stupid sometimes. I apologize. I don't understand your comments though. I am actually not of a background as you might imagine, and Krishnamurti is not at all my god. He was just another man who happened to have a good mind, like many of us. I do value the insights of many intelligent people. I see that I have only created conflict here and that is of course because I am only a soul with a clumsy mind.

  • @160n3rd No problem though i am not sure if u are responding to the other person. I don't know why every christian i have met is so abusive towards other religions. So-called "loving" god but man do they pack hate if u don't like w