the disc this song comes from is full of great songs...the chick was pretty smokin in person, and so was the guitar player...some of the hottest slacker queers ive seen in a while
Hey I am from Houston ( born and raised in Southwest area--Alief Elsik High ) I went to all the clubs in the mid 80's all the way thru the early 2000's.
i think old music is comming back including the fashion thing...but cool! old rock and pop was amazing! lml too much tecnology kills the feelings sometimes...if you dont know how to use it correctly :D lml
And yet it's ok for you to use racial stereotypes to let him know how insensitive he is? Just accept who you are, obviously he is a rapist at heart and you are a KKK member. Lets all live in peaceful depravity k?
And don't capitalize 'u' it makes you look like a giant tool.
@AlterBridgeSurfa What the hell's the matter with U? U actually thought this...then typed it...then posted it. That should be offensive not just to women, but EVERYONE, including U.
I doubt that U'd find rape an acceptable topic for humor if you were forcibly sodomized by a group of giant, hyper-muscular black dudes in some crazy California prison, passing u around like a 40 ounce bottle of cheap malt liquor or a cigarette.
Someday U'll realize how stupid U were to post that.
@ferstday And yet its ok for you to use a racial stereotype to tell him how fucked up he is? Lets be serious now, are your really that stupid? If you wan't to show someone how wrong they are, you have to present an impeccable facade, not reveal your inner KKK.
Don't capitalize 'u', it makes you look like a giant tool.
@neospectre Who's using racial stereotypes? FYI, there really are people who fit that exact description: yes, they ACTUALLY exist, and I've known lots of them. I have no interest in presenting an 'impeccable facade' as you say (beats me how you ever got that impression). Doing so would make me 1) dishonest, as no one is 'impeccable' and 2) shallow, as the word 'facade' itself implies.
Also, don't tell me how to write or spell. I'm not Ur property nor Ur child for you to concern Urself
when i said all i was refering to the ones arguing and from my experience most ppl in gereral r stupid this generation we live in is fucked every video be it of music or anything has some sort of stupid argument and im getting sick of readin this stupid shit its anoying im just trying to let u know how i feel and i dont know why cause all retards do is try to say something totally stupid to argue with me cause people like to assume that thery r always right its sad really the time we live in
@theaab11 ya truth be told i swear and i dont give a fuck.. this song swears but do you really care does it make the song suck more or cooler cause it says fuck not really....
im a european living in the u.s. and i think you are all fucking stupid, people in general are fucking stupid, you retards are busy fighting, arguing, and wasting time about who is better when you cant fuckin realize we are all fuckin human and look the same hahahaha all this arguing is doing is making you fucks all look like a bunch of moronic monkeys haha fucking twats and wankers you are all the same instead of doin somethin positive and worthwhile you'd all rather talk shit online
@uncleAL93 Yeah but, if they don't make blind generalizations, all the "anti-America" idiots wouldn't be able to bash all Americans. Then how are they supposed to look cool on the internet?
@Bunnie1990 60s? really? oh my god. there is no age for music. different sounds can be made at anytime. but if you must know it's "today's" music and yes, there is an 80s edge to it.
haha it was soooo funny looking, i went to their concert and they had all died their hair blonde and jesper had her hair black, she was weird looking but still HOT
i didn't know it was the song from geico, as i said i heard this band and decided to listen to all they're songs... but i like this song even thought i don't really listen to the words..
Well, the last part of my last comment was probably uncalled for, but I mean, it even says in the description it's by THE SOUNDS. The title says it's by THE SOUNDS, the picture is of THE SOUNDS, I mean come on? >_>
@NightmareAdeli omg yeah i met them at the no doubt concert also and i met her and hugged Maja shes so teeny!! and nice i love them. jasper signed my shoes(:
@imafanaticable It's too bad that Maja thinks she's bisexual. If she lived in North America, she would have learned what a real man is, so she wouldnt have to look for a woman for satisfaction.
@88Panzzer what does that have to do with anything i said? and shes bisexual(; north american guys are ew. europeans are the way to go. id say she is deff biseual(;
@joelibermann you wish america gets everything mad late and they leach off every 1 else this fuckin poor ass retarted country n if you didnt no every 1 hates americans so yea. SUCK MY BALLS
@WushuMasterCrane Wow, that is offensive with terrible spelling. Sir, i do believe you are not helping the issue of cultural tolerance and social acceptance. Please reconsider your blatantly rude and disrespectful interjections.
@88Panzzer Because there are no bisexual girls or lesbians here in the US. It's a syndrome of some American men to think their penises can change anything, even someone's identity.
Omg ur lucky!!! I've seen them live 3 times with No Doubt. I'm gonna try to see them by themselves! OMG JESPER IS THE KEYBOARDISIT AND HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOO HOTTTTTT! SO IS THE GUTIAR PLAYER FELIX!
Ughh his hug was GOOD!! I loved it! It was a tight hug. Not tight like the cool tight like it accutally tight!! That was good thing though!! Ughh i loved his hug i wish i can hug him agian!! I wanted to kiss him LOL!!! They r SOOO nice! Maja is really cool too!
the disc this song comes from is full of great songs...the chick was pretty smokin in person, and so was the guitar player...some of the hottest slacker queers ive seen in a while
MrTntombo 4 days ago
this group was awesome in concert...they opened for NO Doubt about 2 yrs ago in Atlanta....
MrTntombo 4 days ago
i like this tune ok enough, but they sure do look like a bunch of slacker queers. especially that dude chick singer and queer boy on the right.
brutalluforte 1 week ago
i dont think this band has any other songs, right?
flyingape11 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
lovin the beat!
1Dacruz 1 month ago
cool electro beat on the intro
SethSchonfeldMusic 1 month ago
i like the way he says lust
denvarhawks 2 months ago
check our channel for a new swedish band, thank you :D
SoundOfLifeBand 2 months ago
i have this on itunes
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punkrockprincess221 3 months ago
i wish i could beatbox this part 0:00-0:07
MiamiHeat1989 3 months ago
Is there a clean version out there of this song? I seen one of another they had but not this. TY
ChimichangaCharlie 3 months ago
@ChimichangaCharlie No not that I know of, sorry. Try looking one up online?
harajukulover951 3 months ago
sickkk
legrispoil 4 months ago
This singer is hot
ciarepairs 4 months ago
yes thoe sounds brings out the 80s in me !!
brad97777 5 months ago
i love the beginning :) with that weird sound :) makes me think of the cavemen gettin off the motorcycles in slow mo
Lecuser 6 months ago
Everytime SHE starts singing, i get goosebumps... Amazing voice!
TrI55I 6 months ago in playlist musik
Jeeeeeeea! Greeethings from Croatia!
rexcro 7 months ago
@rexcro Greetings from Dontgiveadamn, TX USA!
houstonjdd 6 months ago
@houstonjdd lol, im going to have to agree, greetings from h-town!
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dochayes1 5 months ago
Hey I am from Houston ( born and raised in Southwest area--Alief Elsik High ) I went to all the clubs in the mid 80's all the way thru the early 2000's.
mrdefkon1 4 months ago
the only reason i know this song is cuz of Geico :) haha
Lecuser 7 months ago 3
"try not to fuck with your feelings!!!!!" <3 love that part! :]
imbetterthanyoubaby 8 months ago 30
:) niceee
Krvelak 8 months ago
i remember seeing them in 2009 opening for Paramore and No Doubt. They were amazing!
inkis57 8 months ago 3
@inkis57 i saw them there too!!!!!
jordant410 6 months ago
@inkis57 Paramore and No Doubt should be opening for The Sounds not the other way around
WilsonT011 4 months ago 3
Lol @ description. Over 1000...
How about over 250 thousand.
kirbyrocks6 8 months ago 4
Bloody amazing song. O_o.........
InfurnusChaotix 8 months ago
About a year ago they came through Norfolk, Va.. The girl pulled my son Jason out of the crowd , and they did this song together. Pretty cool.
redr1150r 9 months ago 6
hahaha! i just remembered the geico caveman commercials! lol
Jej171 9 months ago 14
this song is like me and my bff's friend ship no realy it dose
TheBieberblastHA 9 months ago
Just for everyone's information, this song came out in 2006.
im264shirt 9 months ago
my absolutely new favorite song, i leaved my frind, to not hurt them...
Karrissen 9 months ago
i think old music is comming back including the fashion thing...but cool! old rock and pop was amazing! lml too much tecnology kills the feelings sometimes...if you dont know how to use it correctly :D lml
Uchimusic 10 months ago
@neospectre chill out. those black dudes dont need UUUU to defend them
zs12235 10 months ago
@alterbridgesurfa
And yet it's ok for you to use racial stereotypes to let him know how insensitive he is? Just accept who you are, obviously he is a rapist at heart and you are a KKK member. Lets all live in peaceful depravity k?
And don't capitalize 'u' it makes you look like a giant tool.
neospectre 10 months ago
I love Felix!!!!!!
EnvyMadhouse 10 months ago
I'd poke her in the butt. What's wrong with that?
88Panzzer 11 months ago
Maja needs a big american Cock to set her straight!!!!
JohnFox1336 11 months ago
@JohnFox1336 No way dude..
a Canadian one
asulkan 11 months ago
@asulkan Is that what you call canadian bacon???
JohnFox1336 11 months ago
@JohnFox1336 yes it is. thicker and juicier. maja would approve
asulkan 11 months ago
@JohnFox1336 That's what does it for you, then?
tobiasaurusrex 11 months ago
AlterBridgeSurfa, thats really sick, rape is no joke, its totally wrong and evil.
123Deszi 1 year ago
I want to rape Maja in the ass so bad.
AlterBridgeSurfa 1 year ago
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@AlterBridgeSurfa I dont blame you
JohnFox1336 11 months ago
@AlterBridgeSurfa What the hell's the matter with U? U actually thought this...then typed it...then posted it. That should be offensive not just to women, but EVERYONE, including U.
I doubt that U'd find rape an acceptable topic for humor if you were forcibly sodomized by a group of giant, hyper-muscular black dudes in some crazy California prison, passing u around like a 40 ounce bottle of cheap malt liquor or a cigarette.
Someday U'll realize how stupid U were to post that.
ferstday 11 months ago
@ferstday Why are you being mean to me? :(
AlterBridgeSurfa 11 months ago
@ferstday And yet its ok for you to use a racial stereotype to tell him how fucked up he is? Lets be serious now, are your really that stupid? If you wan't to show someone how wrong they are, you have to present an impeccable facade, not reveal your inner KKK.
Don't capitalize 'u', it makes you look like a giant tool.
neospectre 10 months ago
@neospectre Who's using racial stereotypes? FYI, there really are people who fit that exact description: yes, they ACTUALLY exist, and I've known lots of them. I have no interest in presenting an 'impeccable facade' as you say (beats me how you ever got that impression). Doing so would make me 1) dishonest, as no one is 'impeccable' and 2) shallow, as the word 'facade' itself implies.
Also, don't tell me how to write or spell. I'm not Ur property nor Ur child for you to concern Urself
ferstday 8 months ago
@AlterBridgeSurfa LOL, buttsurfer!
88Panzzer 11 months ago
drugi od prawej to przeciez slawek szmal
siwyk8 1 year ago
o kurwa, ale gejozy.
TeNsHiNhAn95 1 year ago
Did ANYBODY here this from the Shortcut
Lucia1531578 1 year ago
when i said all i was refering to the ones arguing and from my experience most ppl in gereral r stupid this generation we live in is fucked every video be it of music or anything has some sort of stupid argument and im getting sick of readin this stupid shit its anoying im just trying to let u know how i feel and i dont know why cause all retards do is try to say something totally stupid to argue with me cause people like to assume that thery r always right its sad really the time we live in
Gators1357 1 year ago
commercials ruin good music.
uncleAL93 1 year ago
@theaab11 ya truth be told i swear and i dont give a fuck.. this song swears but do you really care does it make the song suck more or cooler cause it says fuck not really....
Gators1357 1 year ago
im a european living in the u.s. and i think you are all fucking stupid, people in general are fucking stupid, you retards are busy fighting, arguing, and wasting time about who is better when you cant fuckin realize we are all fuckin human and look the same hahahaha all this arguing is doing is making you fucks all look like a bunch of moronic monkeys haha fucking twats and wankers you are all the same instead of doin somethin positive and worthwhile you'd all rather talk shit online
Gators1357 1 year ago 3
@Gators1357 - If you stopped swearing so gratuitously that comment you made would sound alot more intelligent
TheAab11 1 year ago
@TheAab11 *a lot* lol
colocusefan 1 year ago
@Gators1357 I agree with you, except the "all" part. Please don't generalize us because of a select few idiots. thank you.
uncleAL93 1 year ago 2
@uncleAL93 Yeah but, if they don't make blind generalizations, all the "anti-America" idiots wouldn't be able to bash all Americans. Then how are they supposed to look cool on the internet?
InaGameComa 1 year ago
if u wanna talk shit about the united states then get the fuck out of our country or keep ur mouth shut, u should be greatful to be here.
123Deszi 1 year ago
Love this sounds
slices09 1 year ago
TOTALLY~ KEWeL~
gypsygirl731 1 year ago
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2HootHoot 1 year ago
met the sounds in 2002 talked with them and got a signed cd awesome
kimsugar812 1 year ago
they were awesome at piteå dansar och ler (:
elissa95 1 year ago
Wow, this is very '80's, I like it.
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MrBumpmen 1 year ago 45
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younghoss 4 months ago
yay!!
TheAmybites 1 year ago
Who's the guy at the far left?
fraikenclayzy 1 year ago
is this today's music orrrr like 60's stuff lol
Bunnie1990 1 year ago
@Bunnie1990 60s? really? oh my god. there is no age for music. different sounds can be made at anytime. but if you must know it's "today's" music and yes, there is an 80s edge to it.
SailorJupi 1 year ago
I dont care who you are, you can never convince me that this is not the best song ever written or performed by ANYONE!
HasGoodHair 1 year ago
1000! hahahahahaha
deathinbodom1 1 year ago
XDD GICOE AND GUD GUYS BLACK ON BLACK
lVlonkE11 1 year ago
up to 88,913 views. Half of them are from me! lol
jonpapy 1 year ago 3
this is a good song!
dcfrezz 1 year ago
long time fan.. and i still love the song after ive played it a thousand timees
love the sounds=)
HarajukuBlossom 1 year ago 3
haha it was soooo funny looking, i went to their concert and they had all died their hair blonde and jesper had her hair black, she was weird looking but still HOT
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maricones de mierda
battle2n 1 year ago
maricones de mierda
battle2n 1 year ago
1:45 - 2:02 :D :D
smagalaz 1 year ago
i love it
diabolical81 1 year ago
try not to fuck with your feelings!!!!
ThePartybarge 1 year ago
I love this song!
trubbadur 1 year ago
i wuv dis wun
Nonniemayrox 2 years ago
don't wanna hurt you. try not to mess with your feelings (8 . i love this song, it's so cool .
i'm from argentina :B
thatboysamonster 2 years ago
I like that :) The Sounds is my favorite <3
Linneliini 2 years ago
Screw Duran Duran. if they had a lead singer like her I may have been a fan.
88Panzzer 2 years ago
i saw the sounds live. they are amazing
scenefreak22 2 years ago 2
lol 0:31 i found out why the Geico commercial wasn't any longer
ohnoitsmangofett 2 years ago 3
man this makes me love geico even more
babiiswa9908 2 years ago
@babiiswa9908 Well I guess that's marketing for you. :P
inxnix 2 years ago
woww they sound soo modern duran duranishh
Majordejavoo14 2 years ago
i didn't know it was the song from geico, as i said i heard this band and decided to listen to all they're songs... but i like this song even thought i don't really listen to the words..
HellsHillHouseHorror 2 years ago
lol i saw them on october, when they played this song they were dancing and you can tell it was a fun song to sing for them.
Jekkoify 2 years ago 2
its by them!???
HellsHillHouseHorror 2 years ago
No, it's by the Pixies!!!
Stupid.
TurboBabyPuncher 2 years ago
i heard of the band from another band, and found out the song, i really never knew... :(
HellsHillHouseHorror 2 years ago
Well, the last part of my last comment was probably uncalled for, but I mean, it even says in the description it's by THE SOUNDS. The title says it's by THE SOUNDS, the picture is of THE SOUNDS, I mean come on? >_>
TurboBabyPuncher 2 years ago
i lov this song
thnx fr upload :)
XissFobGirl 2 years ago
sounds like the talking heads a little
jethrotullteacher 2 years ago
it does actually your right XD
rcktmn3412 2 years ago
!!!!!!!wow this song really rocks!!!!!!!!
samtheman1234567able 2 years ago 2
F**K this song is good! This band plays great! *thumbs up*
arellanon 2 years ago 2
God i love bands like this, there so unique and their music sounds amazing. lol get it *sounds* as in...oh nvm
RayBanMan428 2 years ago 8
i <3 the sounds sooo much their so unique
AshleyJacobJulie 2 years ago 2
@AshleyJacobJulie sonic youth bitches. those are some real sounds
snakpak27 1 year ago
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Like this song so much <333
cin118 2 years ago
Jesper is SOOOO HOT!!!! XD I thank myself for going to that No Doubt concert or else I would have never heard of them
NightmareAdeli 2 years ago 40
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fraikenclayzy 1 year ago
@NightmareAdeli omg yeah i met them at the no doubt concert also and i met her and hugged Maja shes so teeny!! and nice i love them. jasper signed my shoes(:
imafanaticable 1 year ago
@imafanaticable It's too bad that Maja thinks she's bisexual. If she lived in North America, she would have learned what a real man is, so she wouldnt have to look for a woman for satisfaction.
88Panzzer 1 year ago
@88Panzzer what does that have to do with anything i said? and shes bisexual(; north american guys are ew. europeans are the way to go. id say she is deff biseual(;
imafanaticable 1 year ago
@88Panzzer ahahah American men are nothing you guys made nothing for ur selves. AMERICA SUCKS BALLS
WushuMasterCrane 1 year ago
@WushuMasterCrane
fuck off european shit, you hate us but you buy our music, movies, and buy into our style, without us, bitch.
joelibermann 1 year ago
@joelibermann you wish america gets everything mad late and they leach off every 1 else this fuckin poor ass retarted country n if you didnt no every 1 hates americans so yea. SUCK MY BALLS
WushuMasterCrane 1 year ago
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ok faggot, im not going to even argue with you because your a faggot, and every1 knows it.
joelibermann 1 year ago
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@WushuMasterCrane
Well if you don't like America, you can kiss my ass and lick my balls you european uncircumsised faggot. h
joelibermann 1 year ago
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@WushuMasterCrane
Well if you don't like America, you can kiss my ass and lick my balls you european uncircumsised faggot.
joelibermann 1 year ago
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@WushuMasterCrane
if you dont like america you can kiss my ass and lick my balls you uncircumsised faggot pussy.
joelibermann 1 year ago
@WushuMasterCrane Wow, that is offensive with terrible spelling. Sir, i do believe you are not helping the issue of cultural tolerance and social acceptance. Please reconsider your blatantly rude and disrespectful interjections.
uncleAL93 1 year ago
@uncleAL93 usa = trash
WushuMasterCrane 1 year ago
@88Panzzer Because there are no bisexual girls or lesbians here in the US. It's a syndrome of some American men to think their penises can change anything, even someone's identity.
slickwill143 1 year ago
@NightmareAdeli Same here ahaha :) although I still like them better live
KkBeAr15 9 months ago
@NightmareAdeli any chick is hotter :P especialy whoever that chick is
isaac9517 9 months ago
she reminds me of gwen stefani they sound the same, its funny they play together
BURSTspeed 2 years ago
i love them =]] i was just at their concert yesterday...the keyboardist is sooo hotttttttttttt
PrincessMariax3 2 years ago
Omg ur lucky!!! I've seen them live 3 times with No Doubt. I'm gonna try to see them by themselves! OMG JESPER IS THE KEYBOARDISIT AND HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOO HOTTTTTT! SO IS THE GUTIAR PLAYER FELIX!
harajukulover951 2 years ago
HAHA Jesper is hottttttttttttttttttttttttttter lol && her LEGS are niccccce
PrincessMariax3 2 years ago 5
LOL!! They r lol. She said she did kick boxing, boxing, and karate when she was younger thats why she has good legs. Did u meet The Sounds?
harajukulover951 2 years ago
no i didnt meet them. i wish!! BUTT i was like standing right in front of them....&& i got to stare at Jesper the whole time lol!!!
=p have you met them
PrincessMariax3 2 years ago
LOL! Yes i have met them!! i gave Jesper a BIG hug!!! Ughh hes sooo hot!!! I didnt wanna let go LMAO!
harajukulover951 2 years ago
UGHHH luckyyyy!!!!!! lol...how was the hug...and HOW are they like??
PrincessMariax3 2 years ago
Ughh his hug was GOOD!! I loved it! It was a tight hug. Not tight like the cool tight like it accutally tight!! That was good thing though!! Ughh i loved his hug i wish i can hug him agian!! I wanted to kiss him LOL!!! They r SOOO nice! Maja is really cool too!
harajukulover951 2 years ago
i know!!!
CnLopez101 2 years ago
you're a little bit over 1,000 views ;)
fungamesss 2 years ago
I have 26,309
harajukulover951 2 years ago
i always picture my bf singing this since he reminds me of felix:)
ToxicChic014 2 years ago
if u picture ur bf like one of these guys then u should get a new bf. but i like this song sooo much
mguiney35 2 years ago
i didn't imagine that the F word is yelled out just moments after the geico commercial cuts out, lol
erikjohnnn 2 years ago 53
love this song i get wasted and sing it out loud.either way i love this song
19DARKLIFE 2 years ago
hahahahaha ppl just think im wasted when i suddenly burst out singing this
sasunaru4ever34 2 years ago
maja's hot
leavelucktohell 2 years ago 8
Maja's not just hot she's super hot
greenrangerx 2 years ago 8
Lol! Shes very pretty. Well im a girl thats why im saying shes pretty.
harajukulover951 2 years ago
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couldnt have made a worse song. if thats what they were trying to do is make a terrible song they succeeded i cant stand even a second of this song
xwallinx 2 years ago
What r u talking about? This song is great! You are fucking lost! If u really hated thins song then why r u watching the video of the song? Dumb ass
harajukulover951 2 years ago
i heard this song on a geico commercial and fell in love with it.
pagoogly 2 years ago 4
yeah, same here. i almost thought it was an 80s song, they make such good use of the synthesizer
GMR93 2 years ago 2
yeah i thought it was an 80s song too, lol.
pagoogly 2 years ago
same here! I had my laptop in my lap (lol) when I saw this and I had to look it up! Its so beast!!!!!
taters159357 2 years ago
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this song makes me jizz a little
tyrannosaurusb 2 years ago
dudeeeeeee, commercials have the best songggsssss
hahahelaina 2 years ago 8
haha, i totally fkin agree!!
maizenblue19 2 years ago 2
like one of my faves by themm!
jocylyn62 2 years ago
heard it from gieco ahahh
WANGSTA574 2 years ago 6
very nice beat very catching
adjadde 2 years ago 5
love the song!!
soleidentity 2 years ago
This song makes me want to dance!!!
The1Spotlight 2 years ago
skicka låten någon, send the song. PLZZZ :)))<3
hilltophoodsandKwest 2 years ago
i like to get high , gettt highhhhhhhh
gorgomel123 2 years ago
this song owns thank you god for the geicho commercial
UrDailyM3dia 2 years ago
I can't believe you guys have only heard of The Sounds through an advertisement. They're an amazing band, with even better songs than Hurt You.
asphyxiateme 2 years ago 8
I know!! They r soo awesome and nice! Ive met them b4. Have u
harajukulover951 2 years ago
awesome song
theKing4720 2 years ago 4
yup
harajukulover951 2 years ago
vest song by them. discovered this on geico. haha:]
ToxicChic014 2 years ago 2
You can get it at Limewire or download the song or buy it on itunes. Or as always buy their cd :)
harajukulover951 2 years ago
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where can i get this song?
maggyullrich 2 years ago
Thanks for watching guys!! 13,106 views WOW!!! Thanks for watching and subscribeing me!! Please sub me too please!
harajukulover951 2 years ago
i didn't know who the sounds were until the geico cavemen came and showed me the promise land.
Josephmgo1 2 years ago
Hahaha lol!
harajukulover951 2 years ago
thank you geico
MadBadKc 2 years ago
i was surprised that theses guys opened for no doubt!!!! great band!
musclerocker 2 years ago