@crackawise Nah. Hunting pigs to extinction is unrealistic and the community would oppose it, except in small remote preserves. The idea is to strategically alter/improve food sources in areas that will never see pigs eradiated. That way 1)hunters (like me) can hunt them more efficiently 2) pigs are better eating, and 3) they eat less native plants because they are fed by year-round produce from non-invasive fruit trees, as a few trees do seasonally. Both conservation and hunting benefit.
@nbarca Its not unrealistic at all to hunt pigs to extinction (at least on hawaii). You just want them around so you can torture them. I have no problem with legitimate hunting.
@StewartLucrative All you have to do to eradicate pigs from Hawaii is start fencing at the mountain tops and continue fencing 3000 acre units all the way down to the sea. ...it's unrealistic.
@StewartLucrative every reason why an animal was able to be hunted to extinction does not apply to pigs. They have large litters, they thrive in a wide variety of habitats. They can be reintroduced at any time via an escaped farm animal, they live in thick cover, they are low value, they can get very smart when hunted hard.
@nbarca I realize that, but putting a bounty on them would give a great incentive for people to hunt them, if not to extinction very damn near close, enough to greatly benefit the native species of hawaii. For the record, I am not an anti-hunting liberal or anything like that. I just fell in love with hawaii when I traveled there and it saddens me to hear about all the invasive species. Can you hunt pigs with guns on the island? I want to hunt there, I'd love to stalk through the dense forest.
@StewartLucrative Yeah. ...a lot of us have pitched the bounty idea. Theoretically it would work in reducing pig numbers. Politically, nobody wants to move time and money from their expensive fencing and invasive plant control programs to pay hunters for what they already do for free. If only there was the money... It might work on a smaller scale at the very least. If only there was the money...
@crackawise though I do agree that pigs can be very bad for the islands. Lepto, erosion, demise of native ecosystems and biodiversity, reduced water, etc. And this isn't supposed to compete with fencing and eradications. But 95% of Hawaii won't be fenced. That's just the reality of it. There just isn't enough money out there or will. And why remove pigs from areas that are non-native anyway? Management as a resource is far more benefitial.
Hey Nic, Been following your videos and posts on the various hunting web sites for a while now. I must say you have a lot of GREAT IDEAS! I dont know how realistic they would be as far as actual implementation. I hate to sound pessimistic but the state of our native forests is too far gone and unrecoverable (on Oahu at least). People think that most of the invasive species are actually native, as they have been here so long and have "Hawaiian" names. Keep up the great work!
Mahalo for you visions, I'm into experimenting with something like that in a small watershed. Which island are you on? Aloha
junglemedicine 5 months ago
@junglemedicine Kauai
nbarca 5 months ago
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You are so fucking weird....
StewartLucrative 6 months ago
Keep hunting the hawaiian pigs to extinction so they dont ruin the islands
crackawise 1 year ago
@crackawise Nah. Hunting pigs to extinction is unrealistic and the community would oppose it, except in small remote preserves. The idea is to strategically alter/improve food sources in areas that will never see pigs eradiated. That way 1)hunters (like me) can hunt them more efficiently 2) pigs are better eating, and 3) they eat less native plants because they are fed by year-round produce from non-invasive fruit trees, as a few trees do seasonally. Both conservation and hunting benefit.
nbarca 1 year ago
@nbarca Its not unrealistic at all to hunt pigs to extinction (at least on hawaii). You just want them around so you can torture them. I have no problem with legitimate hunting.
StewartLucrative 9 months ago
@StewartLucrative All you have to do to eradicate pigs from Hawaii is start fencing at the mountain tops and continue fencing 3000 acre units all the way down to the sea. ...it's unrealistic.
nbarca 5 months ago
Thousands of other species have been hunted to extinction, why are feral pigs any different?
StewartLucrative 9 months ago
@StewartLucrative every reason why an animal was able to be hunted to extinction does not apply to pigs. They have large litters, they thrive in a wide variety of habitats. They can be reintroduced at any time via an escaped farm animal, they live in thick cover, they are low value, they can get very smart when hunted hard.
nbarca 5 months ago
@nbarca I realize that, but putting a bounty on them would give a great incentive for people to hunt them, if not to extinction very damn near close, enough to greatly benefit the native species of hawaii. For the record, I am not an anti-hunting liberal or anything like that. I just fell in love with hawaii when I traveled there and it saddens me to hear about all the invasive species. Can you hunt pigs with guns on the island? I want to hunt there, I'd love to stalk through the dense forest.
StewartLucrative 5 months ago
@StewartLucrative Yeah. ...a lot of us have pitched the bounty idea. Theoretically it would work in reducing pig numbers. Politically, nobody wants to move time and money from their expensive fencing and invasive plant control programs to pay hunters for what they already do for free. If only there was the money... It might work on a smaller scale at the very least. If only there was the money...
nbarca 5 months ago
@crackawise though I do agree that pigs can be very bad for the islands. Lepto, erosion, demise of native ecosystems and biodiversity, reduced water, etc. And this isn't supposed to compete with fencing and eradications. But 95% of Hawaii won't be fenced. That's just the reality of it. There just isn't enough money out there or will. And why remove pigs from areas that are non-native anyway? Management as a resource is far more benefitial.
nbarca 1 year ago
Hey are you familiar with 'permaculture'?
The permaculture institute of Australia has some great DVD's out (available as torrents)
eightwillwontcannot 2 years ago
Hey Nic, Been following your videos and posts on the various hunting web sites for a while now. I must say you have a lot of GREAT IDEAS! I dont know how realistic they would be as far as actual implementation. I hate to sound pessimistic but the state of our native forests is too far gone and unrecoverable (on Oahu at least). People think that most of the invasive species are actually native, as they have been here so long and have "Hawaiian" names. Keep up the great work!
Babooze 2 years ago