To a certain degree. When there is less money than there is economic activity or economic value the money depreciates again. If that were not true and destroying money always increases value, then if you destroyed 90% of the money in America you would increase the value of American money 10x over. Which I guarantee would not be true in reality.
@hearv888 - It would fail for the same reason printing concentrating it into too few hands eventually decreases value. The currency is no longer anywhere near a reflection of actual economic activity.
Only in fiat economics can currency value be independent of actual value. If destroying 90% of American money increased the value of American currency 10x that would be fiat currency. It's fiat because economic activity (or its current account value) has not actually increased tenfold.
@hearv888 - Not unless the money depreciates with deflation. Which would be unlikely because now the currency is much lower in number than the actual value of the economy. The only way to avoid that would be giving it fiat value.
@A86 when the fed prints money the value goes down, and the exact opposite would happen if you destroy money.. the number doesn't matter, its the value.
Exactly what I said. When you destroy a bunch of money you haven't changed the value of the economy. That's why destroying 90% of the US's money wouldn't make the value go up over 1100%, you've only changed the money supply, not the Current Account or amount of economic production. Theoretically money is supposed to represent economic activity (Real Value).
You're showing a lack of basic Economics understanding.
@A86 you provided me with a bad example, and now you insulting me.. .thanks! you are talking about fiat currency's .. its fraud, its not federal and its only gonna be inflation for you..
@hearv888 - Never said I agreed with fiat currency. I was saying if you destroy 90% of money in the US there is no way it would cause the US GDP to increase by 1100% unless you by fiat declare US money to be worth 10x more now. In a non-fiat system destroying 90% of US currency would likely cause a deflationary recession or depression on the scale of the 1921 Recession or worse.
Why do people resort to making ad hominem attacks? Because they can’t win an argument on the merits of their case. Frustrated and infuriated, the believers lash out at those who reveal that their Emperor is nude. AIDStruthers can’t cite a set of specific publications to prove that “HIV” tests detect active infection, and they can’t cite a set of specific publications to prove that “HIV” causes AIDS; so they try to “kill the messengers” who bring these facts to public attention.
Google........ Kalichman disclaims and makes AD HOMONYM attacks (Does illiteracy matter? — Kalichman’s Komical Kaper #9)
"What’s really wrong with resorting to ad hominem statements — personal attacks on people you disagree with — isn’t that they’re uncivil or that they might offend someone, it’s that they are IRRELEVANT to the subject under discussion........Ad hominem statements are merely invalid attempts to invoke guilt by association........."
@mykoolaidtastesfunny lol you really do just get some idea in your head and search it on the Internet to find things to copy and paste...What's funny is that you don 't understand what you're reading so you post it out of context and twist it to serve your needs.
No vaccine, no safe treatment, no cure, no questions after 30 years ! Isn't something ary? In House of Numbers: Anatomy of an Epidemic, an AIDS film like no other, the HIV/AIDS story is being rewritten. This is the first film to present the uncensored POVs of virtually all the major players; in their own settings, in their own words. It rocks the foundation upon which all conventional wisdom regarding ‘HIV/AIDS’ is based. /watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ
From the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in Atlanta I have requested the scientific papers that prove the causal relationship between the HIV retrovirus and the IMMUNODEFICIENCY SYNDROME commonly known as AIDS. They have never sent even references to the peer-reviewed primary scientific literature that establishes the causal relationship because they CAN'T. Such papers do............NOT.........exist."
Lynn Margulis, PhD, Biologist, Distinguished Professor of Geosciences, University of Mass. at Amherst Recipient of the National Medal of Science (1999). Member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983. Author of over 130 scientific works and books... The Library of Congress started to permanently archive all of her papers in 1998.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Another meaningless quote. THESE DO NOT MATTER how can I drum that into you. And why would I listen to some dissident scientist over the entire of the CDC, WHO and British government. Answer my questions or face the fact I know more than you
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. Appeals to authority do NOT meet your burden of proof. Neither does posting at the top of the page because you don't want people to see this
google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
"Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did ...NOT... purify any virus... cont...
cont..."includes a copy of Gallo’s handwritten changes to the article, a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did NOT contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could NOT be purified directly from human materials.
In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I dont' care about papers and experiments from 20-30 years ago. Or quotes. Answer my question its evidence of a specific virus, that infects a specific set of T cells as determined by an antibody independent test. What more do you want?
@ptolomey12 Well...maybe YOU don't care but it's required for scientific evidence.
I already told you O "Forgetful" One. It's also become abundantly clear that this is just another of Katkinsful's sockpuppets. Your inane crap is still up on my videos.
NO peer reviewed scientific evidence on my featured video though
see on youtube........Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
ANY evidence from the anonymous youtube "expert" Nope. Not "yet" ha ha
@ptolomey12 Um...gee I you STILL haven't posted your fantabulous "evidence" to my featured video Katkinsful's sockpuppet. You can't change your "voice" you big idiot
@mykoolaidtastesfunny So you are not qualified to speak on behalf of the denialists. How dare you post information surrounding it then, as if you are an authority. No scientific no medical training and you dare to peddle the slander that this virus isn't real. Without a shred of knowledge or insight or experience.
Do you even have a job?
Make a contribution to society or is your sole goal to potentiate the suffering of millions of people
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.....fuck off sockpuppet troll. I go to experts with identities and credentials that are easily verified. Not random know it all sockpuppeteers on youtube. Ad hominem attack is NOT a scientific reference
@ptolomey12 “It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are.......NO.......such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
“It will surely lead to a scientifically healthier society if the burden of proof for HIV as a deadly pathogen is returned to where it belongs — to those who maintain that HIV causes AIDS — and others are allowed to pursue alternative approaches in the battle for eradication of the disease.”
— Dr. Beverly E. Griffin, PhD, Director, Dept of Virology, Royal Postgrad Medical School London
for more google...IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW” SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
@mykoolaidtastesfunny God you are so unoriginal. You spew out the same crap post after post. Your a little boy playing with the internet. Go learn some science
“You start out with a testing system that is riddled with false positives, then you treat them with lethal medications which impair the immune system, and then say ha ha you have an immune damaging disease called AIDS...”
— Dr. Craig Michael Uhl, MD, former U.S. Navy physician, California
@katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet. YOU are the one NOT meeting your burden of proof so...I guess YOU are the coward. Lol...that and playing with sockpuppets
Nope....still no "evidence" from you on my featured video.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Rodney Richards, PhD, Biochemist, Founding scientist for the biotech company Amgen. Collaborated with Abbott Laboratories in developing some of the first HIV tests
@katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet....but YOU said people should go to people with at least a passing understanding of science. Why complain about quotes from people with identities which are easily verified? Lol...because you're just some Ministry of Aidstruth sockpuppeteer that's why :P
google....The Guinea Pig Kids The BBC & The AIDSTruth Mafia
@Katkinsful's endlessly retarded sockpuppet....... Stop posting comments on my channel you jackass. Post your "evidence" to the VIDEO in question. You aren;t going to weasel out of being blocked for logical fallacies by refusing to post your "evidence" to the VIDEO. Stop trying to move goal posts
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Why don't you go read the journal AIDS. Not some link on google honestly. This is a very real deadly virus. AND KILLS PEOPLE! You cannot disprove PCR products you lose accept it
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You are such a coward. Terrified by a logical scientific debate. You had threadbare evidence to your cause, quoting it endlessly as if they refute current medical thinking. Not only this is you are scared other people might see your inadequacies as a debater. The fact you cannot answer even my most basic scientific questions illustrates this.
Pseudoscientists like you are the scourge of the scientific community
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.....Um...No honey. It is stated VERY clearly in the video description box AND and I told you that I block after 3 logical fallacies. You used yours up in no time.
Your comments are still up. People can go and marvel at them as much as they want.
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet...... IM not the one claiming to be a scientist. When I have a question I go to experts with identities and credential I can easily verify.
Lol...You get all "your" ideas from those Psuedo-scienists the Ministry of Aidstruth.
"Dr" Jeanne Bergman is lawyer with a PhD in MARKETING and Professor Nick teaches economics
google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
@mykoolaidtastesfunny LOL wow...you really are crazy. You didn't let me finish...I just think you're a loony. All that stuff about whatever it was you were talking about is just nonsense anyway. My only point is that you are really messed up so all the things you believe are messed up too.
@acquiredtasty Honey...it is stated VERY clearly that I block after 3 logical fallacies. You used yours up in no time. I'm not obligated to entertain cultists and their fallacious reasoning.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny asking a person like you about a subject like this is like asking a blind person to tell me how many fingers I'm holding up. lol
am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
I am not moving the goal posts. I am asking you to explain concrete evidence against the presence of a virus as seen by a very very sensitive molecular diagnostic method If the virus didn't exist you would not get products you wouldn't' be able to amplify anything!! Stop harping on about Gallo. Honestly explain to me how you get amplification of viral RNA via RT-PCR and how when you look at these proteins they can infect cells, generate more copies of the virus
@ptolomey12 Yes. You are moving goal posts and "forgetting" over and over and over who has the burden of proof. Then you post again at the top of the page instead of replying to my comments to try and obfuscate the thread
@ptolomey12 NO honey because it ALL revolves around GALLOS crap tests. Stop trying to move goal posts. I was already VERY specific about what you need to cough up
“None of the postulates on which the infectious hypothesis of AIDS is based fulfill the requirements of the research method. None of the bases of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis has been demonstrated at an objective level. They are theoretical assumptions, created by the minds of those who generate and defend that hypothesis.”
— Dr. Roberto Giraldo, MD, specialist in internal medicine, infectious and tropical diseases, New York. Former Chairman of the Department of Microbiology and Parasitology, Un..
@ptolomey12 Gallo's fake virus FAILS Koch's Postulates you idiot. Even the "discoverers" never found any such thing in an aids patient and ALL your "evidence" revolves around GALLOS crap antibody tests
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am not talking about Gallos antibodies I am talking about PCR. If the virus didn't exist you would not get products you wouldn't' be able to amplify anything!! Stop harping on about Gallo. Honestly explain to me how you get amplification of viral RNA via RT-PCR and how when you look at these proteins they can infect cells, generate more copies of the virus
Nucleocapsid Promotes Localization of HIV-1 Gag Uropods That Participate in Virological Synapses between T cells.
Explain where the proteins involved in this study came from. I am not moving the goal posts I am giving you evidence of a virus that you claim does not exist as established by an antibody independent test. You have no answer accept that
@ptolomey12 That doesn't prove Gallo's fake virus exists it ASSUMES it does.
Where the **** is the reference the dissident scientists have been asking for??!!??! The one where GALLO "discovered" those proteins belong to his VMD
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Wait there a second. You run PCR on a blood sample. And you receive a specific sequence back which correlates to proteins which can infect cell, form virus particles and propagate itself. You do not find this in healthy controls. You obviously have no idea how PCR works. The dissident scientists maintain their opinion despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, in psychiatry this is called a delusion
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I have given you evidence. Evidence you cannot refute or have even attempted to because you don't understand it. Stop sending me quotes they are meaningless. And again you have failed to answer how you explain the AIDS phenomena
@ptolomey12 No...you did NOT reference the relevant study. You referenced a lot of crap that ASSUMES Gallo's fake virus exists and that bases ALL the "evidence" on Gallo's crap antibody tests. Duh...you sure are "forgetful"
I see you didn't dare try that crap on my featured video.
@ptolomey12 No...you did NOT reference the relevant study. You referenced a lot of crap that ASSUMES Gallo's fake virus exists and that bases ALL the "evidence" on Gallo's crap antibody tests. Duh...you sure are "forgetful"
I see you didn't dare try that crap on my featured video.
@ptolomey12 Honey.....YOU are the one with the burden of proof. YOU are the ones who keeps NOT meeting it and just calls everyone who doesn't agree with you...including the PhD scientist who won the Nobel Prize for the test you keep wanting to beat me over the head with..."disgraced"
According to WHO? Those informercial marketers the Ministry of Aidstruth?
google...The Guinea Pig Kids The BBC & The AIDSTruth Mafia
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I don't care about your quackery. Answer my questions they are very very simple. If not I have provided you with irrefutable evidence of the presence of HIV.
@ptolomey12 Lmao...honey it is NOT up to skeptics to prove or disprove your cult for you. If YOU beleeeve in it then YOU are the one who needs to cough up the evidence. Did you "forget" again?
Go and post your "evidence" to my featured video where REAL scientists explain science for you
see on youtube.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Again quotes are meaningless. Answer my two questions thats all i ask. Unless you are incapable in which I would say you have lost the argument
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Again quotes are meaningless. Answer my two questions thats all i ask. Unless you are incapable in which I would say you have lost the argument
@ptolomey12 And what did I tell you? Go and post your fantabulous evidence to my featured where REAL scientists explain science for you because you seem to be having a hard time even with Koch's Postulates
see on youtube.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@ptolomey12 No they don't. You NEVER even find the same thing twice. The ONLY reason you think that has anything to do with Gallo's fake VMD are reactions on Gallo's crap antibody test.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
I am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
Google....A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud? Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo
Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo...WHAT virus?!?!?! All you have is crap here
Scroll down to see what the little shit scribbled out. The he announced his big "discovery" at a press conference and hit the patent office. GALLO is the "hiv" antibody test patent holder
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You're going off topic. You profess great knowledge about this why are you not answering my question Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
@ptolomey12 "hiv" you mean the cellular crap Gallo "discovered"?
Honey....THAT crap is not the primary peer reviewed reference. You need the scientific study where GALLO the so-called "hiv" antibody test patent holder demonstrated a DIRECT isolation of his alleged VMD and linked it to immune problems.
Title Date and Journal. Go post it my featured video where REAL scientists explain how science works for you
So explain to me how that makes any difference. You still have not accounted for the RNA products detected by PCR I am asking a simple yet important question. You cannot attribute these reading to an endogenous retrovirus.
Why don't you post something from say the last 3 years that backs up your claim that there is something else other than a non-existent virus which causes aids.
Using antibodies would make no difference to PCR products
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. YOU are the one who believes Gallo's cellular crap is the virus of mass destruction. YOU are the one who needs to scrape up some evidence.
@ptolomey12 The scientists in my featured video will explain how science works for you
see on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
Dr. Rodney Richards, PhD, Biochemist, Founding scientist for the biotech company Amgen. Collaborated with Abbott Laboratories in developing some of the first HIV tests
@ptolomey12 You need the peer reviewed paper where GALLO the so-called "hiv" test patent holder demonstrated these proteins... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160....actually came from a SPECIFIC virus and it was linked to immune problems
Title Date and Journal. And I block after 3 logical fallacies so you better rethink your Ministry of Aidstruth bullshit
@ptolomey12 WHy do you keep posting shit at the top of the page? Do you not want people to see this?
google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
"Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did ...NOT.... purify any virus..... In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny My apologies. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
@ptolomey12 You don't. You NEVER even find the same thing twice
WHERE is that peer reviewed scientific reference? YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. If YOU believe Gallo's cellular crap = a virus of mass destruction then it is YOU who has a case to make.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Coward. You are now obviously out of your depth. Again you show shocking ignorance of experimental science. You seem unable to deny the presence of this virus as assessed by PCR
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am not moving the goal posts. As with all denialists asked basic questions about molecular biology and they fall short so resort to pseudoscience. the only thing they understand
@ptolomey12 YOU are the one with the burden of proof you idiot. It isn't up to skeptics to prove or disprove your cult for you. You keep NOT coughing up the evidence that the dissident scientists have been asking for.
@ptolomey12 Go post the peer reviewed scientific reference to my featured video where REAL scientists with easily verified identities and credentials will explain how science works for you. I have never claimed to be a scientist. That's why when I have a question I go and ask SCIENTISTS
I don't see any evidence from you there "yet" haha.....on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr Luc. Montagnier is a disgraced scientist. Despite his early seminal work he then followed a route of pseudoscience which gave nothing to the field of medicine or science. Beside this was 30 years ago, we know far more now and have much better techniques. You keep dodging my two questions and regurgitating quotes I have already heard!
@ptolomey12 Lmao.... Are you fucking STUPID? The "discoverers" NEVER found any virus of mass destruction in an aids patient you idiot. Haven't you ever heard of Koch's Postulates? All you do is vilify everyone who pokes holes in your VMD cult but then go on to suggest people get their info from a bunch of UNqualified internet drug marketers
google....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
Google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
" Montagnier admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did........NOT.........purify any virus....includes.... a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did....NOT...contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could...NOT... be purified directly from human materials."
Dr. "Gonda, Matthew" , Head of Electron Microscopy at the "National Institutes of Health".....to Gallo L RON "Gallo, Robert" . He reports that images wanted for the Science papers, do....NOT..... contain "HIV" (HTLVIII) as Gallo had claimed, but only cellular rubbish.
This was received only 3 days before Gallo sent in the Science papers for publication, When the papers appeared in print, they still contained photos credited to Gonda, with Gallo LYING saying they contain HIV.
Here is lovely study showing clear association between CD4 and mortality. And also the efficacy of HAART in improving survival from the gold standard of medical research institutions.
Optimal time for initiation of antiretroviral therapy in asymptomatic, HIV-infected, treatment-naive adults From the Cochrane Library
@ptolomey12 You already tried that. That doesn't show an improvement in health or mortality. That only tries to figure out WHEN someone should start taking HAART.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You failed to mention the association with CD4 in that sentence. Secondly if HAART was not effective why would you see any difference in mortality and CD4 count?
" [169 who had taken some AZT, 3 who had only taken placebo]...The results of Concorde do not encourage the early use of zidovudine in symptom-free HIV-infected adults. They also call into question the uncritical use of CD4 cell counts as a surrogate endpoint for assessment of benefit from long-term antiretroviral therapy."
Concorde Coordinating Committee. Concorde: MRC/ANRS randomised double-blind controlled trial of immediate and deferred zidovudine in symptom-fr
@ptolomey12 HAART is only "effective" at "improving virological response" i.e. CD4 counts and "viral load"
There's NO evidence that that has anything to do with health or longevity though. YOU claimed to have evidence that shows it does but....you get "your" ideas from internet drug marketers so....I'm still waiting.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I just sent you evidence!! I just want to summarise what we have so far. You do not believe in HIV. You believe it is a made up virus, and that the proteins found on say a western blot or the viral RNA found by RT-PCR is not present or that viral DNA found by nested PCR and do not exist. That the proteins researches work on do not exist. And that the increase of incredibly rare conditions was random and that CD4 is not important for mounting an immune response
@ptolomey12 “It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are no such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
@ptolomey12 Why did you post this at the top of the page? Are you embarrassed that you were suggesting people go to internet drug marketing sites with ZERO scientists on the board for their info? Did you want to try to hide it?
Google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No I suggest people go to a doctor. Trained in medicine for years who has a good knowledge of basic science. Not someone like you who has no discernible experience in research or medicine
@ptolomey12 fuck off you lying bitch. Your comments are still up. You SNEER at chemists but the ONLY site you suggested was the Ministry of Aidstruth which has ZERO scientists on the board. i got to experts with identities and credentials that areeasily verified and that ain't you you lying *****
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I have posted quite a lot of scientific literature which you fail to comment on because you don't understand it, that much is evidence. Testimonials from so called scientists means very little to me. Whats even worse is you can't offer any explanation for the AIDS phenomena.
@ptolomey12 LIAR! I have commented on it. I pointed out that ALL of it is based on Gallo's crap antibody tests. I also pointed out that NONE of the studies you referenced re: HAART showed an improvement in health or lifespan. They only show HAART is "effective" at "improving" some random lab tests.
"So-called scientists"? You mean like "Dr" Jeanne Bergman the lawyer with a PhD in marketing who tries to pass herself off as an expert on that drug marketing site the Ministry of Aidstruth?
@ptolomey12 "So-called scientist"? So....PhDs in ya know SCIENCE doesn't count with you VMD cultists?
“We did not purify [isolate] ... We saw some particles but they did not have the morphology [shape] typical of retroviruses ... They were very different ... What we did not have, as I have always recognized it, is that it was truly the cause of AIDS.”
Interview with Djamel Tahi-1997
Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, co-discoverer of HIV, Pasteur Institute, Paris
“It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are no such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
@ptolomey12 Lmao....honey YOU suggested people go to in internet drug marketing site...The Ministry of Aidstruth...that has ZERO scientists on the baord and is funded by the co's whose products they endorse. "Dr" Jeanne is a lawyer whose PhD is in marketing and Professor Nick teaches economics.
Google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
To see Gallo's "proof" that there's a VMD afoot google......A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud? Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo
Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo......WHAT virus of mass destruction?
Scroll down to see what the little fraudster scribbled out. Then he announced his big "discovery" at a press conference and hit the patent office. GALLO is the "hiv" test patent holder. a VMD was all GALLOS bright idea
Dr. "Gonda, Matthew" , the Head of Electron Microscopy at the "National Institutes of Health" , to....L RON "Gallo, Robert" . He reports that images wanted for the Science papers, do not contain HIV XE "HIV" (HTLVIII)as Gallo had claimed, but only CELLULAR RUBBISH!!! This was received only 3 days before Gallo sent in the Science papers for publication, When the papers appeared in print, they still contained photos credited to Gonda, with Gallo LYING saying they contain HIV.
@ptolomey12 STOP LYING! I've posted waaay more than that and you have posted NOTHING to show that HAART improves health or longevity. Appeals to emotion are NOT scientific evidence.
HIV treatment response and prognosis in Europe and North America in the first decade of highly active antiretroviral therapy: a collaborative analysis.
INTERPRETATION:
Virological response after starting HAART improved over calendar years, but such improvement has.......NOT......translated into a decrease in mortality."
So much for CD4 counts as a measure of "effectiveness"
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Google The relationship between the Human Immunodeficiency Virus and the Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome. There are enough references in the first paragraph to fill this comment box. Also a very compelling and well referenced article. Read every signal paper from each author and you might be in a position to comment. And i stress "might"
@ptolomey12 "Hiv"? You mean the cellular crap Gallo "discovered"?
Also.....Stop trying to move goal posts. YOU claimed to know scientific evidence that shows HAART improves health and mortality. Instead...you referenced some crap about CD4 counts and suggested people get their info from a bunch of UNqualified internet drug marketers.
Ha....if YOU have the reference the dissident scientists have been looking for NAME it. Title Date and Journal
You need peer reviewed scientific reference where Gallo showed thse proteins.... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160 ...used in/for..ALL...his "hiv" antibody tests actually belong to a SPECIFIC virus and it was linked to immune problems
If you can scrape anything up feel free to post it to my featured video where REAL scientists explain how science works for you
@ptolomey12 You need to google.....NIH NIAID REBUTTAL PAPER
since you obviously have noooo frikkin idea of what Koch's Postulates are. 1st...you have to ya know FIND a microbe in the sick person before you try to blame the illness on it. Duh! The "discoverers" of the VMD never found any such thing in any aids patient ever.
ALL your "evidence" is based on GALLOS crap antibody tests. You may as well use an e-meter to "prove" body thetans"
@mykoolaidtastesfunnyThe only thing you are doing is quoting the website HIV/AIDS skepticism. I don't think you even read these papers do you? If you do you just about manage the abstract. Go learn some science, some research methods and get an original opinion.
You do a diservice to the hundreds of thousands dying of this terrible disease. And mock the efforts of doctors and researchers worldwide. The only thing you and you're kind do is promote misery and early death. Shame on you
@mykoolaidtastesfunny For someone who seems to base there entire HIV/AIDS ideology on House of Numbers and prolifically quotes the Lancet maybe you would be interested in what they have to say on it and HIV denialism.
@ptolomey12 Who wouldn't "deny" hiv? Even the "discoverers" never found any such thing in any aids patient ever. Haven't you ever heard of Koch's Postulates?
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Yes they have. I have seen it. They have sequenced thousands of different genomes of HIV from patients. Studied its genes, how they work. Electron microscopy by other eminent scientists have shown this virus. You can add a fluorescent protein into its genome and see it actually moving in cells and between them.
@ptolomey12 Sigh....NO they haven't and they NEVER find the same genetic fragments twice. The ONLY connection btw all those "different hivs" are reactions on Gallo's crap antibody tests.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No they are never the same because the virus mutates. Its polymerase is error prone so it mutates at least one nucleotide per HIV virus. So no they are almost never identical.
@ptolomey12 DUH! And yet the "hiv" proteins" used in/for ALL the antibody tests are exactly the same as the day GALLO walked into the patent office. The ONLY connection btw all those "different" hivs are reactions on Gallos crap antibody test.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Do you understand how antibodies work? No the difference between them are nucleotide differences. Which might have functional implications.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I'm the one attempting to answer you're inane question. You are refusing to answer mine. You recognise AIDS as a clinical syndrome with very specific characteristics. Fine you don't believe in the viral cause. But how do you explain the mergence of this new disease?
no diet can cure hiv virus.
it has over a trillion mutations.
this guy is an idiot. LoL
BluePittbull666 4 days ago
@BluePittbull666 Do your research on the subject and then make a judgement call. Before you do that....you only sound like an idiot.
KyaniDave 2 days ago
Goat serum might be the cure
ALEXANDERBELL0 2 weeks ago
The Rothschild family, could solve a poverty in the world. Their net worth is over 500 trillion. Look it up.
Mathaius833 3 weeks ago 3
@Mathaius833 if everybody has money the value would go down...
hearv888 2 weeks ago
@hearv888 sounds elitist to me
Mathaius833 1 week ago
@Mathaius833 maybe it does.. cheap money = inflation.. btw the rothschilds doesnt have 500trillion dollars in wealth...
hearv888 1 week ago
@hearv888 ya its more like 550 trillion now.
Mathaius833 1 week ago
@hearv888 - Concentrating money into too few hands can also make the value of money go down.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 Less money = More value, i guess if people start using another currency the value could go down or would if it was a fiat currency...
hearv888 3 days ago
@hearv888 - "Less money = More value"
To a certain degree. When there is less money than there is economic activity or economic value the money depreciates again. If that were not true and destroying money always increases value, then if you destroyed 90% of the money in America you would increase the value of American money 10x over. Which I guarantee would not be true in reality.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 i think it would..
hearv888 3 days ago
@hearv888 - It would fail for the same reason printing concentrating it into too few hands eventually decreases value. The currency is no longer anywhere near a reflection of actual economic activity.
Only in fiat economics can currency value be independent of actual value. If destroying 90% of American money increased the value of American currency 10x that would be fiat currency. It's fiat because economic activity (or its current account value) has not actually increased tenfold.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 the prices on goods and services goes down..
hearv888 3 days ago
@hearv888 - Not unless the money depreciates with deflation. Which would be unlikely because now the currency is much lower in number than the actual value of the economy. The only way to avoid that would be giving it fiat value.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 when the fed prints money the value goes down, and the exact opposite would happen if you destroy money.. the number doesn't matter, its the value.
hearv888 3 days ago
@hearv888 "its the value"
Exactly what I said. When you destroy a bunch of money you haven't changed the value of the economy. That's why destroying 90% of the US's money wouldn't make the value go up over 1100%, you've only changed the money supply, not the Current Account or amount of economic production. Theoretically money is supposed to represent economic activity (Real Value).
You're showing a lack of basic Economics understanding.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 you provided me with a bad example, and now you insulting me.. .thanks! you are talking about fiat currency's .. its fraud, its not federal and its only gonna be inflation for you..
hearv888 3 days ago
@hearv888 - Never said I agreed with fiat currency. I was saying if you destroy 90% of money in the US there is no way it would cause the US GDP to increase by 1100% unless you by fiat declare US money to be worth 10x more now. In a non-fiat system destroying 90% of US currency would likely cause a deflationary recession or depression on the scale of the 1921 Recession or worse.
A86 3 days ago
@A86 and inflation is a tax, so you loose value on saved money.
hearv888 3 days ago
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Green Tea (EGCG)
Black Tea (Theaflavin)
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Resveratrol
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LifeIsLife1984 1 month ago
This is a philosaphy I have personally believed myself.
surleyguru 1 month ago
truth becoze the virus AFFECTS the T CELLS
t12256 1 month ago
Why do people resort to making ad hominem attacks? Because they can’t win an argument on the merits of their case. Frustrated and infuriated, the believers lash out at those who reveal that their Emperor is nude. AIDStruthers can’t cite a set of specific publications to prove that “HIV” tests detect active infection, and they can’t cite a set of specific publications to prove that “HIV” causes AIDS; so they try to “kill the messengers” who bring these facts to public attention.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 1 month ago
Google........ Kalichman disclaims and makes AD HOMONYM attacks (Does illiteracy matter? — Kalichman’s Komical Kaper #9)
"What’s really wrong with resorting to ad hominem statements — personal attacks on people you disagree with — isn’t that they’re uncivil or that they might offend someone, it’s that they are IRRELEVANT to the subject under discussion........Ad hominem statements are merely invalid attempts to invoke guilt by association........."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 1 month ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny lol you really do just get some idea in your head and search it on the Internet to find things to copy and paste...What's funny is that you don 't understand what you're reading so you post it out of context and twist it to serve your needs.
acquiredtasty 1 month ago
@acquiredtasty Ha...and the irony is that you "refute" the claims of ad hom with yet more ad hom :P
My account was hacked so I'm using my spare.
myspareaccount303 1 month ago
Well Africans, especially east Africans do have more in their DNA toolbox to fight it off.
eethry 1 month ago
SWED
chobag 2 months ago
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No vaccine, no safe treatment, no cure, no questions after 30 years ! Isn't something ary? In House of Numbers: Anatomy of an Epidemic, an AIDS film like no other, the HIV/AIDS story is being rewritten. This is the first film to present the uncensored POVs of virtually all the major players; in their own settings, in their own words. It rocks the foundation upon which all conventional wisdom regarding ‘HIV/AIDS’ is based. /watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ
ricci1007 2 months ago
⇩ work with each other not against each other. we dont see much animals fighting with their own kind.
wills22nd 2 months ago
@wills22nd We see many, many, many animals fighting with their own kind. Very very often.
KVID1000 2 months ago
@KVID1000 and are they play fighting or murdering each other.
wills22nd 2 months ago
@wills22nd You are anthropomorphising. Nevertheless, you're initial observation is flawed. That is all.
KVID1000 2 months ago
WILL YOU TWO BELLOW SHUT UP AND LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT TOGETHER!!!
fredguy2 2 months ago
From the CDC (Center for Disease Control) in Atlanta I have requested the scientific papers that prove the causal relationship between the HIV retrovirus and the IMMUNODEFICIENCY SYNDROME commonly known as AIDS. They have never sent even references to the peer-reviewed primary scientific literature that establishes the causal relationship because they CAN'T. Such papers do............NOT.........exist."
quote is from an expert in science
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Lynn Margulis, PhD, Biologist, Distinguished Professor of Geosciences, University of Mass. at Amherst Recipient of the National Medal of Science (1999). Member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1983. Author of over 130 scientific works and books... The Library of Congress started to permanently archive all of her papers in 1998.
google....IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS?
ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW”
SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Another meaningless quote. THESE DO NOT MATTER how can I drum that into you. And why would I listen to some dissident scientist over the entire of the CDC, WHO and British government. Answer my questions or face the fact I know more than you
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. Appeals to authority do NOT meet your burden of proof. Neither does posting at the top of the page because you don't want people to see this
google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
"Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did ...NOT... purify any virus... cont...
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
cont..."includes a copy of Gallo’s handwritten changes to the article, a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did NOT contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could NOT be purified directly from human materials.
In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I dont' care about papers and experiments from 20-30 years ago. Or quotes. Answer my question its evidence of a specific virus, that infects a specific set of T cells as determined by an antibody independent test. What more do you want?
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Well...maybe YOU don't care but it's required for scientific evidence.
I already told you O "Forgetful" One. It's also become abundantly clear that this is just another of Katkinsful's sockpuppets. Your inane crap is still up on my videos.
NO peer reviewed scientific evidence on my featured video though
see on youtube........Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
ANY evidence from the anonymous youtube "expert" Nope. Not "yet" ha ha
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Coward
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Um...gee I you STILL haven't posted your fantabulous "evidence" to my featured video Katkinsful's sockpuppet. You can't change your "voice" you big idiot
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny So you are not qualified to speak on behalf of the denialists. How dare you post information surrounding it then, as if you are an authority. No scientific no medical training and you dare to peddle the slander that this virus isn't real. Without a shred of knowledge or insight or experience.
Do you even have a job?
Make a contribution to society or is your sole goal to potentiate the suffering of millions of people
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.....fuck off sockpuppet troll. I go to experts with identities and credentials that are easily verified. Not random know it all sockpuppeteers on youtube. Ad hominem attack is NOT a scientific reference
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 “It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are.......NO.......such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
see on youtube....HOUSE OF NUMBERS
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
“It will surely lead to a scientifically healthier society if the burden of proof for HIV as a deadly pathogen is returned to where it belongs — to those who maintain that HIV causes AIDS — and others are allowed to pursue alternative approaches in the battle for eradication of the disease.”
— Dr. Beverly E. Griffin, PhD, Director, Dept of Virology, Royal Postgrad Medical School London
for more google...IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW” SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny "HIV causes AIDS" CDC
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.....Duh! That's not a scientific reference. That's an appeal to authority.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny God you are so unoriginal. You spew out the same crap post after post. Your a little boy playing with the internet. Go learn some science
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.... Go and post some to my featured O "Forgetful" One
Duh...you VMD cultists are soooo "forgetful
Nope...no "evidence" from you "yet"
see on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny This isn't a scientific reference you cretinous sack of shit
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 And she listens to fluorescent green raccoons from outer space
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet....sure whatever sockpuppet
“You start out with a testing system that is riddled with false positives, then you treat them with lethal medications which impair the immune system, and then say ha ha you have an immune damaging disease called AIDS...”
— Dr. Craig Michael Uhl, MD, former U.S. Navy physician, California
google...IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS?
ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW”
SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Stop quoting people. I don't care. Answer my question you coward
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet. YOU are the one NOT meeting your burden of proof so...I guess YOU are the coward. Lol...that and playing with sockpuppets
Nope....still no "evidence" from you on my featured video.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Rodney Richards, PhD, Biochemist, Founding scientist for the biotech company Amgen. Collaborated with Abbott Laboratories in developing some of the first HIV tests
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet....but YOU said people should go to people with at least a passing understanding of science. Why complain about quotes from people with identities which are easily verified? Lol...because you're just some Ministry of Aidstruth sockpuppeteer that's why :P
google....The Guinea Pig Kids The BBC & The AIDSTruth Mafia
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's endlessly retarded sockpuppet....... Stop posting comments on my channel you jackass. Post your "evidence" to the VIDEO in question. You aren;t going to weasel out of being blocked for logical fallacies by refusing to post your "evidence" to the VIDEO. Stop trying to move goal posts
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Why don't you go read the journal AIDS. Not some link on google honestly. This is a very real deadly virus. AND KILLS PEOPLE! You cannot disprove PCR products you lose accept it
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. It is NOT up to skeptics to prove or disprove tour cult for you.
Duh!...go and post your fantabulous evidence to my featured video.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You are such a coward. Terrified by a logical scientific debate. You had threadbare evidence to your cause, quoting it endlessly as if they refute current medical thinking. Not only this is you are scared other people might see your inadequacies as a debater. The fact you cannot answer even my most basic scientific questions illustrates this.
Pseudoscientists like you are the scourge of the scientific community
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet.....Um...No honey. It is stated VERY clearly in the video description box AND and I told you that I block after 3 logical fallacies. You used yours up in no time.
Your comments are still up. People can go and marvel at them as much as they want.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@Katkinsful's retarded sockpuppet...... IM not the one claiming to be a scientist. When I have a question I go to experts with identities and credential I can easily verify.
Lol...You get all "your" ideas from those Psuedo-scienists the Ministry of Aidstruth.
"Dr" Jeanne Bergman is lawyer with a PhD in MARKETING and Professor Nick teaches economics
google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
google....The Aidstruth Rats Scatter
to see who pays them
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny LOL wow...you really are crazy. You didn't let me finish...I just think you're a loony. All that stuff about whatever it was you were talking about is just nonsense anyway. My only point is that you are really messed up so all the things you believe are messed up too.
acquiredtasty 1 month ago
@acquiredtasty Honey...it is stated VERY clearly that I block after 3 logical fallacies. You used yours up in no time. I'm not obligated to entertain cultists and their fallacious reasoning.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 1 month ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny asking a person like you about a subject like this is like asking a blind person to tell me how many fingers I'm holding up. lol
acquiredtasty 1 month ago
@ptolomey12 Lol...nope. It's the usual Ministry of Aidstruth crap you get from VMD cultists.
google....THE AIDSTRUTH RATS SCATTER
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
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I am not moving the goal posts. I am asking you to explain concrete evidence against the presence of a virus as seen by a very very sensitive molecular diagnostic method If the virus didn't exist you would not get products you wouldn't' be able to amplify anything!! Stop harping on about Gallo. Honestly explain to me how you get amplification of viral RNA via RT-PCR and how when you look at these proteins they can infect cells, generate more copies of the virus
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Yes. You are moving goal posts and "forgetting" over and over and over who has the burden of proof. Then you post again at the top of the page instead of replying to my comments to try and obfuscate the thread
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Cytopathic Mechanisms of HIV-1
Joshua M Costin
This is a lovely paper which shows a lot about HIV
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 NO honey because it ALL revolves around GALLOS crap tests. Stop trying to move goal posts. I was already VERY specific about what you need to cough up
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
“None of the postulates on which the infectious hypothesis of AIDS is based fulfill the requirements of the research method. None of the bases of the HIV-AIDS hypothesis has been demonstrated at an objective level. They are theoretical assumptions, created by the minds of those who generate and defend that hypothesis.”
— Dr. Roberto Giraldo, MD, specialist in internal medicine, infectious and tropical diseases, New York. Former Chairman of the Department of Microbiology and Parasitology, Un..
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Again quotes mean nothing
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. You just keep trying to shoot messengers move goal posts all over the place
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
“Years from now, people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find those who excommunicated Galileo.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
see on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny If you cannot answer my question then all the studies involving HIV PCR prove the existence of this virus
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Kochs postulate answer the question or admit defeat
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Gallo's fake virus FAILS Koch's Postulates you idiot. Even the "discoverers" never found any such thing in an aids patient and ALL your "evidence" revolves around GALLOS crap antibody tests
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am not talking about Gallos antibodies I am talking about PCR. If the virus didn't exist you would not get products you wouldn't' be able to amplify anything!! Stop harping on about Gallo. Honestly explain to me how you get amplification of viral RNA via RT-PCR and how when you look at these proteins they can infect cells, generate more copies of the virus
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Everything revolves around GALLOS tests so stop trying to move goal posts you idiot.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny
Nucleocapsid Promotes Localization of HIV-1 Gag Uropods That Participate in Virological Synapses between T cells.
Explain where the proteins involved in this study came from. I am not moving the goal posts I am giving you evidence of a virus that you claim does not exist as established by an antibody independent test. You have no answer accept that
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 That doesn't prove Gallo's fake virus exists it ASSUMES it does.
Where the **** is the reference the dissident scientists have been asking for??!!??! The one where GALLO "discovered" those proteins belong to his VMD
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Wait there a second. You run PCR on a blood sample. And you receive a specific sequence back which correlates to proteins which can infect cell, form virus particles and propagate itself. You do not find this in healthy controls. You obviously have no idea how PCR works. The dissident scientists maintain their opinion despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, in psychiatry this is called a delusion
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 NO jackass...THATS not the primary peer reviewed reference
“Years from now, people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find those who excommunicated Galileo.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
see on youtube....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I have given you evidence. Evidence you cannot refute or have even attempted to because you don't understand it. Stop sending me quotes they are meaningless. And again you have failed to answer how you explain the AIDS phenomena
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 No...you did NOT reference the relevant study. You referenced a lot of crap that ASSUMES Gallo's fake virus exists and that bases ALL the "evidence" on Gallo's crap antibody tests. Duh...you sure are "forgetful"
I see you didn't dare try that crap on my featured video.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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@ptolomey12 No...you did NOT reference the relevant study. You referenced a lot of crap that ASSUMES Gallo's fake virus exists and that bases ALL the "evidence" on Gallo's crap antibody tests. Duh...you sure are "forgetful"
I see you didn't dare try that crap on my featured video.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am getting tired of you answering my fundamental scientific question with quotes from disgraced scientists.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Honey.....YOU are the one with the burden of proof. YOU are the ones who keeps NOT meeting it and just calls everyone who doesn't agree with you...including the PhD scientist who won the Nobel Prize for the test you keep wanting to beat me over the head with..."disgraced"
According to WHO? Those informercial marketers the Ministry of Aidstruth?
google...The Guinea Pig Kids The BBC & The AIDSTruth Mafia
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 You keep posting at the top of the page instead of hitting reply. Why? Do you not want people to see this?
Google...A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud? Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I don't care about your quackery. Answer my questions they are very very simple. If not I have provided you with irrefutable evidence of the presence of HIV.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Lmao...honey it is NOT up to skeptics to prove or disprove your cult for you. If YOU beleeeve in it then YOU are the one who needs to cough up the evidence. Did you "forget" again?
Go and post your "evidence" to my featured video where REAL scientists explain science for you
see on youtube.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Again quotes are meaningless. Answer my two questions thats all i ask. Unless you are incapable in which I would say you have lost the argument
ptolomey12 2 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny Again quotes are meaningless. Answer my two questions thats all i ask. Unless you are incapable in which I would say you have lost the argument
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 And what did I tell you? Go and post your fantabulous evidence to my featured where REAL scientists explain science for you because you seem to be having a hard time even with Koch's Postulates
see on youtube.......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Stop trying to move goalposts
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 No they don't. You NEVER even find the same thing twice. The ONLY reason you think that has anything to do with Gallo's fake VMD are reactions on Gallo's crap antibody test.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
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I am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
Google....A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud? Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo
Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo...WHAT virus?!?!?! All you have is crap here
Scroll down to see what the little shit scribbled out. The he announced his big "discovery" at a press conference and hit the patent office. GALLO is the "hiv" antibody test patent holder
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny You're going off topic. You profess great knowledge about this why are you not answering my question Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
These are not parts of the human genome.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
“There is no proof that HIV causes AIDS”: AIDS denialism beliefs among people living with HIV/AIDS
Just found this. HIV denialism in HIV positive patients is linked with increase in mortality and poorer outcomes.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 "hiv" you mean the cellular crap Gallo "discovered"?
Honey....THAT crap is not the primary peer reviewed reference. You need the scientific study where GALLO the so-called "hiv" antibody test patent holder demonstrated a DIRECT isolation of his alleged VMD and linked it to immune problems.
Title Date and Journal. Go post it my featured video where REAL scientists explain how science works for you
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
So explain to me how that makes any difference. You still have not accounted for the RNA products detected by PCR I am asking a simple yet important question. You cannot attribute these reading to an endogenous retrovirus.
Why don't you post something from say the last 3 years that backs up your claim that there is something else other than a non-existent virus which causes aids.
Using antibodies would make no difference to PCR products
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. YOU are the one who believes Gallo's cellular crap is the virus of mass destruction. YOU are the one who needs to scrape up some evidence.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 The scientists in my featured video will explain how science works for you
see on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
Dr. Rodney Richards, PhD, Biochemist, Founding scientist for the biotech company Amgen. Collaborated with Abbott Laboratories in developing some of the first HIV tests
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 You need the peer reviewed paper where GALLO the so-called "hiv" test patent holder demonstrated these proteins... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160....actually came from a SPECIFIC virus and it was linked to immune problems
Title Date and Journal. And I block after 3 logical fallacies so you better rethink your Ministry of Aidstruth bullshit
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 WHy do you keep posting shit at the top of the page? Do you not want people to see this?
google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
"Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did ...NOT.... purify any virus..... In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny My apologies. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
These are not parts of the human genome.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 You don't. You NEVER even find the same thing twice
WHERE is that peer reviewed scientific reference? YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. If YOU believe Gallo's cellular crap = a virus of mass destruction then it is YOU who has a case to make.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am asking you a very very simple question. Again please explain how you get specific PCR products of HIV without presence of the virus. I would hasten to add the protein products of the genes found by PCR have effects on human T cells. For example Gag multimersation and budding from the virus surface. To the reverse transcriptase and its ability to convert RNA to DNA.
These are not parts of the human genome.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Coward. You are now obviously out of your depth. Again you show shocking ignorance of experimental science. You seem unable to deny the presence of this virus as assessed by PCR
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Stop trying to move goalposts.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am not moving the goal posts. As with all denialists asked basic questions about molecular biology and they fall short so resort to pseudoscience. the only thing they understand
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 YOU are the one with the burden of proof you idiot. It isn't up to skeptics to prove or disprove your cult for you. You keep NOT coughing up the evidence that the dissident scientists have been asking for.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Go post the peer reviewed scientific reference to my featured video where REAL scientists with easily verified identities and credentials will explain how science works for you. I have never claimed to be a scientist. That's why when I have a question I go and ask SCIENTISTS
I don't see any evidence from you there "yet" haha.....on youtube......Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 "hiv" You mean the cellular crap Gallo "discovered"? Lmao...do you beleeeve in body thetans too?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Dr Luc. Montagnier is a disgraced scientist. Despite his early seminal work he then followed a route of pseudoscience which gave nothing to the field of medicine or science. Beside this was 30 years ago, we know far more now and have much better techniques. You keep dodging my two questions and regurgitating quotes I have already heard!
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Lmao.... Are you fucking STUPID? The "discoverers" NEVER found any virus of mass destruction in an aids patient you idiot. Haven't you ever heard of Koch's Postulates? All you do is vilify everyone who pokes holes in your VMD cult but then go on to suggest people get their info from a bunch of UNqualified internet drug marketers
google....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
" Montagnier admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did........NOT.........purify any virus....includes.... a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did....NOT...contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could...NOT... be purified directly from human materials."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Dr. "Gonda, Matthew" , Head of Electron Microscopy at the "National Institutes of Health".....to Gallo L RON "Gallo, Robert" . He reports that images wanted for the Science papers, do....NOT..... contain "HIV" (HTLVIII) as Gallo had claimed, but only cellular rubbish.
This was received only 3 days before Gallo sent in the Science papers for publication, When the papers appeared in print, they still contained photos credited to Gonda, with Gallo LYING saying they contain HIV.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Here is lovely study showing clear association between CD4 and mortality. And also the efficacy of HAART in improving survival from the gold standard of medical research institutions.
Optimal time for initiation of antiretroviral therapy in asymptomatic, HIV-infected, treatment-naive adults From the Cochrane Library
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 You already tried that. That doesn't show an improvement in health or mortality. That only tries to figure out WHEN someone should start taking HAART.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You failed to mention the association with CD4 in that sentence. Secondly if HAART was not effective why would you see any difference in mortality and CD4 count?
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 This sentence?
" [169 who had taken some AZT, 3 who had only taken placebo]...The results of Concorde do not encourage the early use of zidovudine in symptom-free HIV-infected adults. They also call into question the uncritical use of CD4 cell counts as a surrogate endpoint for assessment of benefit from long-term antiretroviral therapy."
Concorde Coordinating Committee. Concorde: MRC/ANRS randomised double-blind controlled trial of immediate and deferred zidovudine in symptom-fr
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 HAART is only "effective" at "improving virological response" i.e. CD4 counts and "viral load"
There's NO evidence that that has anything to do with health or longevity though. YOU claimed to have evidence that shows it does but....you get "your" ideas from internet drug marketers so....I'm still waiting.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I just sent you evidence!! I just want to summarise what we have so far. You do not believe in HIV. You believe it is a made up virus, and that the proteins found on say a western blot or the viral RNA found by RT-PCR is not present or that viral DNA found by nested PCR and do not exist. That the proteins researches work on do not exist. And that the increase of incredibly rare conditions was random and that CD4 is not important for mounting an immune response
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Do you disagree with any of those statements
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 I'm not interested in PMs. Keep it public. I already told you what I thought of your "evidence"
It is ALL based on GALLOS crap antibody tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 “It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are no such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Why did you post this at the top of the page? Are you embarrassed that you were suggesting people go to internet drug marketing sites with ZERO scientists on the board for their info? Did you want to try to hide it?
Google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
Google....The Aidstruth Rats Scatter
to see who pays them
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No I suggest people go to a doctor. Trained in medicine for years who has a good knowledge of basic science. Not someone like you who has no discernible experience in research or medicine
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 fuck off you lying bitch. Your comments are still up. You SNEER at chemists but the ONLY site you suggested was the Ministry of Aidstruth which has ZERO scientists on the board. i got to experts with identities and credentials that areeasily verified and that ain't you you lying *****
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I have posted quite a lot of scientific literature which you fail to comment on because you don't understand it, that much is evidence. Testimonials from so called scientists means very little to me. Whats even worse is you can't offer any explanation for the AIDS phenomena.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 LIAR! I have commented on it. I pointed out that ALL of it is based on Gallo's crap antibody tests. I also pointed out that NONE of the studies you referenced re: HAART showed an improvement in health or lifespan. They only show HAART is "effective" at "improving" some random lab tests.
"So-called scientists"? You mean like "Dr" Jeanne Bergman the lawyer with a PhD in marketing who tries to pass herself off as an expert on that drug marketing site the Ministry of Aidstruth?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 "So-called scientist"? So....PhDs in ya know SCIENCE doesn't count with you VMD cultists?
“We did not purify [isolate] ... We saw some particles but they did not have the morphology [shape] typical of retroviruses ... They were very different ... What we did not have, as I have always recognized it, is that it was truly the cause of AIDS.”
Interview with Djamel Tahi-1997
Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, co-discoverer of HIV, Pasteur Institute, Paris
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 "So-called scientist"?
“It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There are no such documents.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
You have to stop quoting Henry Baeur. He is a chemist not doctor or a research he is out of his depth and anyone with any standing knows this
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Lmao....honey YOU suggested people go to in internet drug marketing site...The Ministry of Aidstruth...that has ZERO scientists on the baord and is funded by the co's whose products they endorse. "Dr" Jeanne is a lawyer whose PhD is in marketing and Professor Nick teaches economics.
Google.....THE GUINEA PIG KIDS THE BBC AND THE AIDSTRUTH MAFIA
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
To see Gallo's "proof" that there's a VMD afoot google......A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud? Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo
Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo......WHAT virus of mass destruction?
Scroll down to see what the little fraudster scribbled out. Then he announced his big "discovery" at a press conference and hit the patent office. GALLO is the "hiv" test patent holder. a VMD was all GALLOS bright idea
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Dr. "Gonda, Matthew" , the Head of Electron Microscopy at the "National Institutes of Health" , to....L RON "Gallo, Robert" . He reports that images wanted for the Science papers, do not contain HIV XE "HIV" (HTLVIII)as Gallo had claimed, but only CELLULAR RUBBISH!!! This was received only 3 days before Gallo sent in the Science papers for publication, When the papers appeared in print, they still contained photos credited to Gonda, with Gallo LYING saying they contain HIV.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 STOP LYING! I've posted waaay more than that and you have posted NOTHING to show that HAART improves health or longevity. Appeals to emotion are NOT scientific evidence.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Lancet. 2006 Aug 5;368(9534):451-8.
HIV treatment response and prognosis in Europe and North America in the first decade of highly active antiretroviral therapy: a collaborative analysis.
INTERPRETATION:
Virological response after starting HAART improved over calendar years, but such improvement has.......NOT......translated into a decrease in mortality."
So much for CD4 counts as a measure of "effectiveness"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Google The relationship between the Human Immunodeficiency Virus and the Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome. There are enough references in the first paragraph to fill this comment box. Also a very compelling and well referenced article. Read every signal paper from each author and you might be in a position to comment. And i stress "might"
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 DUH!
That is ALL based on GALLOS crap antibody tests you idiot.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 "Hiv"? You mean the cellular crap Gallo "discovered"?
Also.....Stop trying to move goal posts. YOU claimed to know scientific evidence that shows HAART improves health and mortality. Instead...you referenced some crap about CD4 counts and suggested people get their info from a bunch of UNqualified internet drug marketers.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
Ha....if YOU have the reference the dissident scientists have been looking for NAME it. Title Date and Journal
You need peer reviewed scientific reference where Gallo showed thse proteins.... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160 ...used in/for..ALL...his "hiv" antibody tests actually belong to a SPECIFIC virus and it was linked to immune problems
If you can scrape anything up feel free to post it to my featured video where REAL scientists explain how science works for you
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 You need to google.....NIH NIAID REBUTTAL PAPER
since you obviously have noooo frikkin idea of what Koch's Postulates are. 1st...you have to ya know FIND a microbe in the sick person before you try to blame the illness on it. Duh! The "discoverers" of the VMD never found any such thing in any aids patient ever.
ALL your "evidence" is based on GALLOS crap antibody tests. You may as well use an e-meter to "prove" body thetans"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunnyThe only thing you are doing is quoting the website HIV/AIDS skepticism. I don't think you even read these papers do you? If you do you just about manage the abstract. Go learn some science, some research methods and get an original opinion.
You do a diservice to the hundreds of thousands dying of this terrible disease. And mock the efforts of doctors and researchers worldwide. The only thing you and you're kind do is promote misery and early death. Shame on you
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny For someone who seems to base there entire HIV/AIDS ideology on House of Numbers and prolifically quotes the Lancet maybe you would be interested in what they have to say on it and HIV denialism.
Google Lancet House of Numbers Review
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Stop making shit up. I started asking questions in 2006
Lmao.....fuck film reviews! THATS your evidence that Gallo's fake ass virus exists?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Who wouldn't "deny" hiv? Even the "discoverers" never found any such thing in any aids patient ever. Haven't you ever heard of Koch's Postulates?
I deny body thetans as the cause of aids too.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Yes they have. I have seen it. They have sequenced thousands of different genomes of HIV from patients. Studied its genes, how they work. Electron microscopy by other eminent scientists have shown this virus. You can add a fluorescent protein into its genome and see it actually moving in cells and between them.
So what do you think is cause of AIDS?
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Sigh....NO they haven't and they NEVER find the same genetic fragments twice. The ONLY connection btw all those "different hivs" are reactions on Gallo's crap antibody tests.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No they are never the same because the virus mutates. Its polymerase is error prone so it mutates at least one nucleotide per HIV virus. So no they are almost never identical.
Again what do you think causes AIDS?
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 DUH! And yet the "hiv" proteins" used in/for ALL the antibody tests are exactly the same as the day GALLO walked into the patent office. The ONLY connection btw all those "different" hivs are reactions on Gallos crap antibody test.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Do you understand how antibodies work? No the difference between them are nucleotide differences. Which might have functional implications.
ptolomey12 2 months ago
@ptolomey12 Do you not understand how to answer simple questions?
WHY do you believe in something even the "discoverers" never found in an aids patient?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I'm the one attempting to answer you're inane question. You are refusing to answer mine. You recognise AIDS as a clinical syndrome with very specific characteristics. Fine you don't believe in the viral cause. But how do you explain the mergence of this new disease?
ptolomey12 2 months ago