Riz Khan - Somalia: The next Afghanistan ? - Dec 22 - Part 1

[LongliveSnak2e]

Dumb NIGGER. FUCKING ISLAMO FACISTS WILL TAKE OVER THAT COUNTRY.

[ogaal83]

Supporting Somalia establish strong governance is of fundamental importance. Lack of commitment by the international bodies has resulted in lawlessness that produced pirates and terrorists. The concensus now is to help Somalia and that is encouraging but it ought to be a long-term effort to stave off potential chaos that'll permeate regional states and beyond. Unfortunately, Somalia lacks professionals and has old, short-sighted clanists who lack partiotism and wisdom beyond clan issues/regions.

[alternatvethinker]

international community is evil.they joke with the peopeles life. Let alshahb take somalia over.then this problem finished for ever.

[ogaal83]

"Let alshahb take somalia over.then this problem finished for ever."

I'm sorry, but anybody who says that is either incredibly stupid or mentally ill. Calling yourself "Abu" and blowing up children and slaughtering people like lamb isn't a religion, it's the work of a demonic cult. Please read history before you utter such none sense again.

[alternatvethinker]

idiot ,always "'counter arguing"" with "blowing up children and slaughgter peopel".Are yu blind? It is those peopel who blown up? they ahev blown up the gaza and whole palestine not since yeterday but 60 yearsd long. They ahev blown up a paceful iraqi nation and killed millionn, dirty jew yu r i read politics and history last 25 years. not like yu since yesterday. ignorant bias inhumane peopel. always present misinformation

[ogaal83]

I am concerned about the well-being of my people in Somalia. I know there are other problems in the world, such as those in Afqanistan, Palestine, Iraq, etc. Those countries have many more people then we do, their people aren't dying on high seas feeling for safety and decent life. They have neighbours and friends that pour milions on them, my people don't have the luxury of living in a single village without assistance, so it's unwise to lump them with other far away.

[alternatvethinker]

yu bastard inhumane bitch,looks only yur priviliges and ideas than looking the matters globaly. idiot

[tomislavvajs]

You said the point

ogaal83 . While palestinians recived more than 30 bilion USD in different donations and have two pro-arab cameras per-one person the somalis and other africans are out of interest today. The reason for this is that there is no opportunity to GAIN for global islam just PAIN for population there

[ogaal83]

I whole-heartedly agree with you. The Palestinians simply need to get their heads out of their behinds and make peace with their neighbour, their lifes are substantially better than that of my people's, as it is, due to the massive aid they recieve from their Arab brothers. No Arab aid has ever come to Somalia from Arabs, except weapons and extreme ideology to prolong the war and suffering, oddly enough, all in the name of Islam. Israel bends over backword for the Arabs, truth be told.

[ogaal83]

You're concerned with ideological issues when Xamar looks like a slaughter house and we have foreign criminals who use our people's blood and our land as a staging ground for their own agenda. I have yet to see a single Arab country indicate a genuine concerned for our suffering masses. My concern is the Somali lady whose life is so miserable that she has to sell her body to feed herself in refugee camps, not the well-being of Palestinian children. I wish them well but mine is dying.

[alternatvethinker]

yu talking stupid again.Just news few minutes ago that somaly preseant forenminister invited kenya,ethipia,yemen to send troops. If yu do not want foreigners then why people like yu inviting foreign morons? to fuck somalian ladies? idiot go educate politics more 20 years and then face a man like me. i amnot a somalian but i have adeep respect to the plight of somalian people.

[ogaal83]

Your profile says you're actually 39 years old. I'm perplexed by the clear lack of wisdom on your part, especially at that age. I suppose the gap between your view and age indicate something bigger than a typical person's mere views on conflict, thus, rendering any logical argument useless. Carry on. I can only only wish that we Somali people have an educated elite, just like other nations, whose main concern is their people and their land, we desperately need those types of people to save us.

[alternatvethinker]

If i talk with some i talk neutrally. i have an ideology but i defend the truth everywhere and always neutrally. i amnot a friend of mine too. i love to spek truth. I am 42 yeras old actually an began read international and conflict politics from avery young age,My agae is there not correct on my first account was correct age

[alternatvethinker]

i belong to one of teh worlds most readed man so do not come to talk so immature and bulllshit with me. you can not prosper a society without complete security and with the interference of foreigners or foreign troops youb can not get complete security and thats why movement like shahab is good a t the end if not for long term

[alternatvethinker]

somalia is fucked up since 25 years and yu suddenly  waked up and want a beter life for them within 4 weeks. You must be tough idiot and a very poorly educated. Go read more about geo and conflicyt politics than wasting yur time here on yutube.

[ogaal83]

..The world powers won't create another tiny, poverty-stricken, war-prone, aid-dependant, corrupt African state that is pointed to by an arrow on the globe because it's so tiny. It's precisely why not a single country or legitimate world organization would endorse such a thing. In fact, they'll do whatever possible to counteract to it. Wars happen but don't result in seccession. If these regions fight, are they doing to also declare statehood? We'd have city-states in the world, 900+ nations.

[ogaal83]

If Somalia is to be divided, how, when and where, it'll be a Somali endeavour and not imposed from the outside because a few clanists have written to various diplomats and what not. Only a sitting Somali parlaiment with substantial popular and international support would engage in such an effort. Even then, it's highly unlikely that the international community would allow it because it is generally against the immergence of newer nations for the sake of world peace and order...

[DISHU]

...i do think their movement is cowardly, pathetic and selfish they claim they are the safest part of somalia were crime is low well PUNTland is also a relatively safe place to live but we do not want to split we are sticking with greater somalia and hopefully INSHALLAh we will all come back and invest money time and engergy together in our country, what we see in somalia today is a case of brain dreain where all the professional educated people have fled and we see left are these animals

[DISHU]

and to continue on my point...Siad Barre was a great man during his early years but like dictatorship that usually doesnt last, he implemented a no Tribe rule, he also tried to help people integrate were northerners were seen in the south and southerners in the north i think his vision was beautiful but like i said shit happens and ppl on both sides got hurt. i personally have many Isaaq friends and they too deep down do not want to split from somalia, do i blame why they want to NO but....

[DISHU]

Siad Barre might have made some serious mistakes in what he did in the north but that pails in comparison to what these animals are doing and have been doing in the south for the past 20 years. OKAYYY you kicked Siad Barre out and the south is yours now what? how have you stabalized your region and i think we all know who im talking about.....I do not support Al-Shabab because they are wolves in sheeps clothing they are they same people who destroyed Mogadishu just in different clothes EFFF that

[KTranquility]

I am disgust with the ignorance of some people especially those who clime that theyre from the north. Would you rather live in where your 13 years old sister or daughter be rapped and stone to death? Or live in a free respectful true Muslim society which are Somaliland sands for. Somalia is gone when the regime government brutally launches gruesome attacks to its own people of the north. That was the true face of Somalia reviled 1980s.

[KTranquility]

Somaliland sovereign peace full Muslim Country!!

While rest of Somalia in crisis, Somaliland government, manage to bring order and peace to its people. Somaliland chooses freedom over oppression, peace over conflicts; prosperity over poverty and self-sufficiency over dependency.

No one knows better what is best for Somaliland than its people.

Let Somaliland be free and independent country.

[missflowers]

And so is puntland but we would rather not part from the rest of Somalia just because it faces problems. Rather stick together and help each other.

People like you seem to live in a ideal world, cutting yourself will not help you in the long term. but by all means part if you wish.

[LetItFloat]

Somalia's main problem was the minority regime in Ethiopia. They take money from the US, and take a dip into Somalia. What we have is a horrible death and destruction. I am sure it will be difficult to bridge them now than it would have been prior to Ethiopia's invasion.

[rosekiller123]

I have no respect for Somalia they torture people for the most stupid reasons. They deserve what they get for being such sheep.

[afrikanbadboy]

MY MUSLIMS WAKE UP THE YAHOODS AN NASARAHS PLAN EVERYDAY ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO DESTROY OUR UMMAH ONE BY ONE but it wont happen OUR LORD IS EVER WATCHFUL OF THE WRONGDOERS

BLAME AMERICANS GIVIN CASH TO SOMALI WARLORDS AN PAYIN FAKE SOCALLED JIHADIS TO DESTABLIZE OUR NATION AN TO MAKE US FOLLOW THE WRONG PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE SUNNAH OF RASULALLAH S.A.W

IF THE HOLY MESSANGER OF ALLAH CAME BACK TO EARTH AND SAY THE OUR UMMAH HE WOULD HAVE CHANGED OUR PLANET BACK TO PEACE AN HARMONY

[hemlic]

I have no doubt that if the international war criminals do not interfere in Somalia, the Islamic Shabbab Mujahideen will bring peace and stability and will stop piracy. These people should be given their right to rule their land as they see fit, or there will be catastrophic results.

[Inkan1969]

Shabbab must submit to the ICU. The ICU before the invasion had the true moderate vision that would've saved Somalia. You cannot embrace extremism, the fruit of Satan.

[manhattanwombat]

what do you know about this issue? learn what extremism is first. all you know is how the mainstream media defines extremism. extremism is doing too much. ash shabab doesnt do too much they just try to implement sharia as it should be done everywhere. the brave mujahideen of somalia show the world that america can never stop the people from practising their religion in the way they want it. if u want ur stupid 'moderate' islam (srsly wtf is that?) go to tunisia or something and have some gay sex

[Inkan1969]

Who's the "they"? And what's the "have some gay sex"? Is your manhood threatened?

[manhattanwombat]

the muslims of somalia of course and I said that cause I think ur an american pretending to be a 'moderate' muslim who loves gays

[Inkan1969]

Is it the Muslims of Somalia, or al-Shabab? I did not say that I was U.S. citizen, or Muslim. I still support moderate Islam because extremism of any ideology is bad for the entire world. And are you obsessed with hating gays?

[manhattanwombat]

look at what ash shabab gives somalia! PEACE!! for the first time in decades PEACE!! they are the same as the taliban who also drove away the criminals and warlords and established the rule of divine law. look what happens to muslim countries without muslim government they become pits of corruptian, warlordism, criminality, drug and arms trafficking, kidnapping, terrorism,... these people are heroes they risk their lives to bring peace to their country and families and to restore their religion

[Inkan1969]

The Taliban did not bring peace, it brought tyranny. It enforced its "peace" by terrorizing people into obeying their infinitely evil rule. The ICU is good because it is NOT like the Taliban. ICU followers must not let the injustices of the anarchy and the Ethiopian and Western meddling poison their souls to embrace the true Satanism that was the Taliban's perversion of Islam.

[manhattanwombat]

u forget they were at war. they needed strict control in the areas they controlled. spies of the vile warlords of the northern alliance could infiltrate if they didnt do this. of course it wasnt pure sharia but it was necessary as long as the war continued. even in the times of the caliphate sharia was only established once the right conditions were there (peaceful muslim society)

[Inkan1969]

That's a convenient excuse for atrocities: it's necessary as long as there's war.

[manhattanwombat]

so it would have been better if the northern alliance won and plunged the country in yet more decades of violence, warlordism and organised crime?

[Inkan1969]

It would've been better if civil war had been averted in 1992.

[manhattanwombat]

yea like that was possible in a country full of warlords and communists and criminal scum like the northern alliance.

[Inkan1969]

Anything is possible under God. The Reagan and Bush administrations were much at fault for not aiding Afghanistan after the Soviet pullout. They could've helped keep the situation from collapsing into civil war. The GWB administration is being just as negligent, not paying enough attention to corruption and lack of power in the Karzai administration.

[ZionismISNEWNazism]

only ppl who could stop the pirates and bring peace to somailia is the ICU but america doesnt like the ICU it doesnt care if theyre good for somalia it just doent like them

[manhattanwombat]

the ICU will be back in power within years thanks to ash shabab

[Inkan1969]

I hope the ICU can dissolve shabab. Sharif Sheikh Ahmed's moderate stands are what's needed.

[manhattanwombat]

so somalia can be a 'moderate' muslim country, meaning a zionist puppet like egypt?

[Inkan1969]

An answer like that disqualifies you from any sane judgement of what is moderate or not. Madmen like you cannot save Somalia.

[mambozz]

unfortunatly i think the ICU neither has the will nor the capacity to confront the AL shabaab movement, there resistance movement will fracture and they get at each other's throats once the ethopians leave....

[Inkan1969]

We can hope for the best, god willing. If the ICU had been left alone, I bet Ahmed would've been able to weed out the extremist nuts, and the ICU would've rebuilt Somalia.

[missflowers]

they weren't angles but yeah perhaps they would have.

well at least he has a second chance and I am cautiously optimistic.

[Inkan1969]

I hope that Sheikh Ahmed earns credibility as transitional president. We could get a ceasefire, and then an election where the ICU factions can take real seats.

[fdama]

Somalia(apart from Somaliland) is gone....finished....finito. It still amazes me that a country which is so homogeneous, whose people share the same language, culture and religion cannot agree on for the sake of peace and are killing each other day by day. There is nothing left that is salvageable in Somalia. Society has been destroyed, infrastructure is non existent and civilised politics, which is the way out of chaos, is hard to find.

[Eetaq]

The somalis have repeatedly tried, and succeeded in stabilizing and uniting themselves. However, because they choose to do so under the banner of Islam, America, and the West, intervenes, and eliminates any stability.

[LijamGerrie]

No foreign aid (ransom) forthcoming, Ethiopian running away from Somalia.

Somalia troop withdrawal to go ahead - Ethiopia

Deepika - 7 hours ago

ADDIS ABABA, Dec 22 (Reuters) The African Union called on Ethiopia today to delay a move to withdraw its forces from Somalia to allow for reinforcements, but Ethiopia said the decision was irreversible.

[oamaer]

MossadAngentwatching,

I am not prejudice against jewish ppl, however,a person who is not very bright like should be stone to death.

[MossadAgentWatching]

you do not get it ...the monkeys like to kill each others ...leave them in peace why would you like to civilize monkeys thinking they are humans ...they are not ....monkeys are just that MONKEYS...

[thefutureofbass]

your mother is a monkey

[theunholysoul]

Why do you call them monkeys? Your attitude towards black is identical to the Nazis attitude against jews ("not humans"). The only difference is they identified jews as dirty rats.

[oamaer]

MossadAngentwatching,

I am not prejudice against jewish ppl, however,a person who is not very bright like should be stone to death.

[abdi6734]

This so called expert of the piracy in somalia is a joke.

He seems to be defending the ethiopian genocide in somalia and attacking the somali liberation forces.

[Habesha28]

I dont think so but if he does,he`s right cause of Somali liberation so called Alshabab is athreatning the east africans with help of eritrean dictator.For me personally as an eritrean is ashame to see this proxy war of my country, we loosed ones in 1998 the war and now to start another war on somali ground is showing eritrean president how blood thristy he is!!!!!

[conduit99]

Where's part 2?

[halyey]

somaliye tooso tooso isku tirsade eek koolbo kiina tagdaranek tagero waligeena

[WKaliber1]

is Somalia in Europe?

[halyey]

no somalia is in east afrika.

[WKaliber1]

no its not, its right next to Germany