Assuming my motor could handle it.... 55 psi would put me in the 2-3000hp range lol. Not bad for a 4 banger I guess. What fuel is it runnin? E85,000,000 lol?
@smallfry0764 Yeah that isn't a lot. Considering it's a 4 cylinder with a small mans penis stroke. Plus i want to see this engine in a year. It's going to be parts spread out along the race track, or road. Depending where hes driving.
@POPCORN454545 Well now that's kind of ignorant. I mean while 575 ft-lbs isn't amazing, it has enough HP to make up for it. Plus, I don't know any car that sits at a 1,000hp racing without being touched for a whole year. Not happening. So do recognize that side, 2 inches does a lotta damage with 1000HP lulz.
@smallfry0764 Torque is what gets you moving. Horsepower is what keeps you moving. That isn't a lot of torque. Plus, read what i said. I want to see that engine in a year or so spread along the race track in fine broken parts blown up. Cause that's whats going to happen to a little piece of shit 4 cylinder.
@tiki2777 Lol mad? Nah. Extra effort put into your grammar isn't a bad thing you know. Anyways, your right. You don't. But if you did have a V8 it would be making more power than this 4 cylinder at 55 psi boost, and again....apparently you cannot seem to read the English language. This engine will be nice shitty 4 cylinder spread out along the road in parts. V8 will last longer, sorry. Learn something about cars first before you talk. Good day.
@allwheeldrive1 What? Front wheel drive sucks ass, why would you even do that? That's retarded. And i'm not understanding what you mean by "it will put out the same power as FWD". Please enlighten your logic on me.
@POPCORN454545 I understand where you're coming from since I own two V8 cars ('01 Mustang GT daily driver, and an '86 Camaro that's currently torn down, thinking about an LS1/T56 swap) but don't be so ignorant towards I4 imports.
Up until the LS1, 302, and PI 4.6 liter Ford, most American V8s sucked ass. Shitty weak head castings that would crack, weak stock internals. And V8s were never super popular with imports either until lately.
@kcole939 V8's never really sucked ass. Back in the day, people made their motor's N/A monsters (some still do) and a V8 is a great foundation for that as opposed to a 4 banger or a sixer. Nowadays, everyone knows making huge power easily means ton of boost. So now, all those small displacement 4/6 cyls make huge power off of tons of boost with strong internals and eat N/A V8s. The V8s that "suck" are the ones that can't handle all that boost, but can still make serious power on motor.
@need2speed94 You have to understand that back then, the way to get power = bigger engine. The quality of the castings weren't the best, so that meant more material. Next thing you know, just the block is over 250lbs, with heads weighing quite a bit over 100. Not to mention that almost every BBC had 2 bolt mains, that couldn't handle much RPM.
Things have come a long ways. Reason why I'm going to be throwing an LS1 into my third gen, and the reason why my Mustang's heads only weigh 44lbs.
@kcole939 Oh believe me I understand that very well lol. Huge displacement, silly long stroke, high compression and leaded gas man haha. And about 2 bolt main blocks... garbage for boost. That's what I was referring to. LS1 3rd gen huh? I was hunting for a 3rd gen but finally decided to settle for a 98 Z/28. I love 3rd gens man, good luck with it! You also going with a T56?
@need2speed94 That's becoming the plan, when I get around to it anyway. Already running a 26 spline T56 in my '01 GT, Centerforce DFX, Fidanza flywheel, 03-04 Cobra aluminum driveshaft, Steeda tri ax shifter, etc. Good transmission.
Originally wanted to do a turbo SBC/auto since I already had the 700R4 core and a 4 bolt 350 block, but it would just be overly heavy up front, making it not much fun to drive anywhere but in a straight line. Plus I'd also like it to be decently fuel efficient.
@kcole939 Ahh. Nice man, T56's are pretty tough tranny's man. When I first picked up my Z28 I was surprised how good of a tranny it was for a budget sports car. If you already have a SB 350 and an auto I'd definitely go for a nasty strip setup, but that's just me. Since you mentioned gas mileage I'm guessing it's mostly going to be a street car/daily driver, so maybe the LS1/T56 would be better for that.
@need2speed94 Just a weekend type car, since it has no AC, heat, radio, etc. But building something that'd be grossly inefficient with it would just bother me. That's another project for another car, like an old first gen Camaro if I ever pick one up.
Sold the stock 700R4 for $200, still have the 4 bolt block sitting in the garage. I'll have to figure out something to do with it eventually, or just sell the block.
@kcole939 Yes and that was 30 - 40 years ago. V8's kick ass now. But now wankels have the stage. 1.3 L or w/e makes 1000 horse? That's insane. Point is i4's are supposed to have 140 horsepower in the family car. Not 1000 horse power at the wheels and going to blow up in a couple years. If my dad were to put 55 PSI boost on his 489 that would put him at like 1800 horse. Assuming it could handle that much fucking pressure.
@POPCORN454545 Lol, just stop with the expert act, exact HP numbers, the intended use for each engine, etc.. You automatically already discredited yourself with this: "V8 will last longer, sorry."
It's COMPLETELY dependent upon the specific engine. A simple dropped valve could destroy even the most "bulletproof" V8. This car makes over 1K HP with a 2.0 4cyl. Anything with this type of power, no matter the size, is typically tore down every 1-3 years for inspection/rebuild. Won't last forever.
@POPCORN454545 Now keep in mind, I am mainly a V8/American car guy, no Evo fanboy here. But, all the bigger V8s have going for them with these types of builds, less HP per C.I. Slightly less stress to the head castings, valves, pistons, etc, due to lower pressures. In the end, any 1,000 HP car, 4cyl or V8, has that stress of 1,000 HP against it's rods and crank.
Look at the Bugatti Veyron. 16 cylinders, 8 liters, 4 turbos, between 987-1,200 HP. Then look at the maintenance costs.
@imagewise Lol, why don't you shut the fuck up, get a fucking life, a job, and learn how to read.
Refer to my previous comment to POPCORN454545: "I understand where you're coming from since I own two V8 cars ('01 Mustang GT daily driver, and an '86 Camaro that's currently torn down, thinking about an LS1/T56 swap) but don't be so ignorant towards I4 imports.
Up until the LS1, 302, and PI 4.6 liter Ford, most American V8s sucked ass."
I was clearly sticking up for imports, since I like them.
@imagewise A big block v8....a piece of metal...sounds more manly than you will ever be. Grow some balls and come back when you don't think that a wankel is better than a piston engine asswipe. You're from Texas aren't you? Only steers and queers come from Texas, and you don't look like much of a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Shut the fuck up maggot.
@imagewise Why would i go cry to my dad? If anything i'd go cry to my mother. Just because you can't accept simple facts doesn't mean that you're lawn mower engine is good. Go back to Texas you fucking queer.
The "more HP" arguments are pretty stupid on here! With a power adder and a big enough wallet, you can make all the power you can dream up. How about 8000 HP? Boring arguments. Making reliable, efficient power is another story. Let's admit it, turbos and superchargers are a kind of novelty now. NA power is still king. This car in the vid, for example, wont last long before being torn down. It is JUST a dyno queen, and maybe some strip running. But have no doubt, she'll have to get torn down.
@9b8 You made that statement based on what? F/I has been around for a LONG time, so I would call it more than a novelty. Appropriately designed F/I allows engines do things they could not do by the rules of science. More than small displacement 4cylinders are turbo charged successfully for long periods of time. At the same time, I've seen countless V8's pop under bolt-on NA power. Sounds like your statement was based on ignorance and nothing more.
@BlueByYou2004 Well he's kind of right, hes trying to say N/A is more reliable which is true. You're more likely to blow your shit up from boost. Other than that though, making your car faster in general usually makes your car burn out faster too whether its F/I or N/A. A good tune is where its at. If you have enough money then obviously you can pay to play.
@betterdropdatdonk Thank you! Someone is able to see the forrest through the trees! I like a nicely tuned forced induction setup just as well as the next guy. But gosh, shit loads of hot shots on here shit talk and shit talk and shit talk about "bad ass turbo" to the point that it gets nauseating. I rank the ignorance (thanks, BlueBy) along with "no replacement for displacement." Simply speaking, I'm a believer in a potent NA platform (e.g. S65/S85, S54, Coyote 5.0L, F20C/F22C, HR10EG, etc).
No shit, Sherlock. My basis is that the majority of engineering discipline revolves around potent NA engine development. Yes, it is in general possible to build a reliable turbo-based platform; no one argued that...ever. My gripe is with 'd00dz' on here having ego wars over boosted HP as if it is some ultimate acheivement or bragging right. Ignorance. There is always a know-it-all. Rather, it sounds like you are a victim of your own accusations.
@soldierx345 think of it like this.... all the way through the rpm its just gaining more and more HP all the way to the top... unless most v8 you see that hit full toque and hp at a low rpm, then what happens is it slowly looses its torque and hp all the way to rev limit...
guys, horsepower sells engines, but torque wins races. take it from me, i have a 454 big block chevy in a 74 corvette. heavy car, but 7.4 liters and 500 foot pounds of torque make it rape any 4 cylinder its come across. don't believe me? look at my videos.
@lightersknivesguns your wrong. 55 psi at 10000 rpm and 90 psi will smoke even a tuned 454. a 454 is fast but im pretty sure this evo will smoke a 454
@lightersknivesguns Denying the power of a tuned 454 would be stupid. Im sure you have an amazing vehicle considering your being honest. But if you think your gonna RAPE a 1000+rwhp awd car,your out of your mind. If your talking baout beating the majority of what you come across on the street sure,thats unarguable. But The car in this particular videois on another level,and full race evos ,and civics ( 4 cyl cars ) running 8s & 9s and insanely high traps are no joke
@lightersknivesguns Ok and you think 1000 hp 4 cylinder has what? 63 ft/lbs? Power to weight ratio effects are key here. Numbers are numbers... fine. If you're car dropped 500 lbs of weight, it would be "faster", right? So to acheive the SAME 1/4 mile time as the "heavier" version would require LESS power, right? Right. See how this plays out? Less power, same results... power to weight ratio... and FYI, that 1000+hp 4 banger probably has more torque then your Vette ;)
First that's wrong ''horsepower sells engines, but torque wins races'' who ever said that is moron.
Next, in about your vette you are right. On thing I can understand, always when I watch some video, there's some idiot fighting about 4cyls vs 8 cyls?? is that even comparable??? No it's not.
FYI I saw 4 cylinder engine big as much as 4x V8 7.4 liter engines, that means each cylinder is big as your 1 V8.
Yes, 28 liter, straight 4... made by Fiat in early 20's
Still today, in Vietnam, Korea, China, and some Asian countries Toyota have in pick up cars 4.5 L, 5.0 L and 6.0 liter, 4 cylinder diesel pushrods, (Fiat / Opel/ design).
So your 7.4 liter V8 is not so big. What you think about BMW, 47 liter V12 producing 3500 bhp naturally at just 2500 rpm, or 36 liter V12 Merlin producing 2000 bhp naturally ???
Power and displacement NOT depends about number of cylinders. Remember that.
pretty sweet car. Correct me if I'm wrong but i've only seen V8 powered cars do 3 second runs on a 1/4 mile.....o_O and Im sure a 772ci naturally aspirated car would put this car to shame. HOWEVER said cars and engines would not in no way be streetable so cudos to this 4 banger
The Veyron have 16 cylinders and 4 turbos that produces 1000bhp, that's from a 16.4. but this car is sick, even getting further off the line with just 4cylinders, plus the thought of this car being lightweight and AWD is even further. Cars that have larger displacement are a lot heavier thus making them pretty much wasteful with their power. LanEVO FTW!!!
@MrDandoc89 You are right, but the pricing for putting this work onto a 4 cylinder is much better. There is a reason you see more Evo's tuned like this than your V8's you love so much. People who love muscle always get mad and hate on 4 bangers with turbo's, but I guess i'd get mad too if i always had to stare at the tail lights of a car with a third the displacement and half the cylinders :]
@bharvey2010 I'm not hating on 4 bangers man lol. I drive a 2.2 S10. And I love Srt4 Neons. I'm just stating that you'll never get as much power out of a 4 cylinder as you will a V8.
wtf 4 pistons making over 1000hp is mind boggling i used to hate on imports but when you see videos like this it makes you think twice before trolling on such a beast of a car.
@TequilaKG Real factor behind acceleration is weight, not mindless torque with really thick tires to absorb mindless power going to the wheels and mindless praying to car gods that it gains traction even for a few secs. Pretty sure that stripped Evo is sub 3000lbs and could pull a really impressive 0-60, quarter mile, and still be used on the track and for the ride home.
@iTzVladd Well aware of hp/trq per pound. I am mentioning that alot of import videos and some domestic videos display horsepower but not torque. I believe imports might reach decent horsepower but don't always achieve torque.
funny how these idiots are on here talking about their V8's and V12s,, that make almost the same power but with another 4 6 or 8 cylinders, and another 4 6 or 8 liters..
@07Z06ss I'd love to see American muscle make 1000+ HP to ALL WHEEL DRIVE...not just rear wheel drive. The power loss through the transmission alone on AWD is close to 22-25%. Not to mention that this engine displaces only 2.0 liters. 2.0 liters is less than what a half gallon milk carton holds. Before you insult a masterpiece like this, please do your research.
@07Z06ss too bad the engine goes through internals after a couple of passes at the strip. At least the JUN built GT-R can make 1000awhp reliably. Can't say that for your topfuel dragsters.
@JonEldred and that's why you don't run on stock internals DUH, and the gtr is junk that's why when purchasing a GTR from a dealer you had to sign over your rights to a warranty for powertrain if you used launch control and you transmission got fucked up, utter fail...
@07Z06ss Im sure they're not running stock internals. Yeah, the engine is only assembled in a fucking clean room and tailored to the transmission it's mated too. No shit a dealer is going to void a warranty if your race or beat the shit out of it. I can't immagine a dealer would be happy. if you slapped some drag slicks on a corvette and dumped the clutch at 6k.
@hostilityy Obviously he's not runnin on a stock tranny with that much power. Prolly a dogbox or somethin. Race trannies can handle far more of a beating than this evo's puttin out.
@UunonMopo actually, this is the complete opposite of a ricer. This video shows extreme and meticulous tuning to max out the performance of the vehicle to make sure it is as purpose-built as it can possibly be, rather than "lets put a big wing on it, a loud exhaust, a million stickers, and call it good"
My DREAM Evo... 2007 Evo IX (Or whatever the last year IX was made), full suspension and huge brakes, 400-500whp (street car!!) and a 8500rpm limit. Ahh that would be heaven.
55PSI on the little 4...all i can say is O, M, G. Not a big Mitsu fan because they are known for making trucks, and the cars suck (yes, that's including the eclipse). But the EVO is an exception and it is just THAT sick.
@turbobenx you know the evo used the same engine as the turbo eclipse did for a few years right? not sure if the evo 8 ran the 4g63 but saying the eclipse sucks but the evo is an exception is kind of closed minded imo
@firefoxx04 you're rite. I shouldnt have say what i said. But when i said it suck, it doesnt mean the hp/TQ...well, i sorta meant that too. But what i meant is the reliability of the car. If u kno and experience one, u should kno that the eclipse has many problems with the tranny and engine. Altho it stores the 4g63 (older models), but it wasnt tuned to the likes of the EVO.
And yes, the evo8 stores the 4g63, however, it is not a MIVEC engine like the EVO9....the EVO9 imo, is the best model.
very nice video, didnt think you could get that much power out of a small engine. but with that much power in a little engine and with that much thrashing, the engine is going to be fucked after 10000ks
To all morons on here babbling on arguing about reliability gas miliage and so forth thing about it I highly doubt they intended it for neither you don't build a 1000+hp car for gas mileage so get a life and stop arguing about it
Fair enough the builders got 1000+ hp @ 10,000 rpm nothing against those guys, that's their job
But what most of you don't understand is HP dosn't mean anything. it's just a formular worked out from torque and rpm. HP = Torque x RPM / 5252(rpm)
So in theory if he reved another 5000 rpm more keeping a straight torque line he would make 700 more HP Really his just reving more and still puttin the same torques on the ground.
@951PSI So what you wanna say is it doesnt matter what HP you have. If you have the same torque youll be as fast? Youre saying this evo would be just as fast if he kept the same torque figure but had his maximum revs to 2000rpm? Dude even if you change the gearing, you wont come anywhere with those 200hp it would make.
Fact is HP gets the car going. It doesnt matter if you have 30lbs torque, if you do it at 20000rpm, and gear it right, it will go fast.
@bingoberra18 you do know Torque is measured by how quick it travles a distance by rpm and time intervals. the flat torque line in this video shows that you can put some decent gears in it and go fast. like F1 cars have nice flat torque lines and use it all with their gear ratios. BUT when you change gear ratios and put it on the dyno... numbers change.(whp/wtq)
@951PSI No torque is a just a twisting force, you can apply 500lbs of torqe on an axle without it rotating. So what that means is torque doesnt say how fast anything can move. You need torque and revs to make it move, and that equates to horsepowers. Wich means horsepowers is what gets you going.
@bingoberra18 but we're talking about moving objects so the torque applys to the moving object. At the end of the day it's the torque that makes horsepower. if HP= Torque x rpm / 5252. if you have 0 and you multiply it by any rpm you still have 0. rolling roads measure torque then do the equation to get the HP. say you have 300lb torque from 3000 - 5000 rpm.. from 3000-4000 (228hp@4000rpm) the car will accelerate at the same rate as 4000-5000 rpm(285hp@5000rpm) even though theres more horsepower
@951PSI "At the end of the day it's the torque that makes horsepower"....i dont even need to read what u said or talking about, because you're already wrong just by saying that. TQ provides HP, not "make" HP.
@951PSI Sir, what im saying is torque in the matter of the word doesnt accelerate a car. You cant tell me torque alone gets a car moving, because its the torque combined with the revs, and the torque combined with revs is the same as horsepower. If your example stands, why would racingcars keep high revs even though the torque is much lower thant there than in midrange?
@bingoberra18 I never said that only torque gets the car moving. it takes one to start the other... it takes the torque of the engine to make rpm which both of them is horsepower. it's like you dont choose a clutch by how much howsepower you car is making you need to know the torque. horsepower is more for gearing and not bragging rights of raw power. but it's better to make more torque at a higher rpm so you can take advantage of gearing. thats where horsepower comes into play.
@951PSI Torque decides the linear acceleration, however HP decides the terminal velocity. Just read a few pages from fluid mechanics and you will understand what I mean.
@951PSI Alright...as a math guy I have a question on your formula.
you wrote your formula as...
HP= Torque x RPM / 5252(rpm)
This confuses me a little, because the number 5252 isn't really derived from anything. Is it the redline, the current RPM, what? Otherwise your formula is this...
HP=Torque x RPM / RPM
Further simplified to
HP=Torque x 1
A number divided by itself is always 1. This equation is always going to be HP=Torque.
Perhaps the / symbol was used as an [or] operator?
when you put a car on the dyno it measures the torque at the wheels. to get horsepower the computer does the fomular HP = Torque x RPM/5252. on the dyno chart, the data shows is torque, so for example you get the torque at any given rpm, lets say at 4000 rpm theres 340 ft lb of torque. so to work out the horsepower at 4000 rpm you use the formular 340 x 4000/5252 which equals 258.9 HP. so depends on the dyno it will do the fomular for every 1 or more rpm to work out the hp.
@951PSI no your wrong actually hp means everything , your right about the math but u act as tho it would be easy to keep that amount of torque at that rpm level ITS NOT the formula was made for a reason very hard to keep the torque like that at those high rpm
@abacacus it depends. if both the cars are identical, but making the same horsepower, 1 at 3000 rpm and other at 7000 rpm, the car with the lower rpm HP will need a lot more torque then the 1 with the higher rpm HP.
in a drag race, the car with low end torque will probably launch quicker and keep its distance if it shifts just past his hp limit so just past 3000 rpm while the other will have a higher top speed, over double because he can rev higher and probably pass him in the end.
@abacacus (continue) for the lower end car to have the same top speed it'll need different gear ratios, if the ratios are right, it'll give it the same top speed but it will struggle and will be out accelerated by the high end car.
My point here when originally posted was that HP isnt really bragging rights to a "powerfull engine" since torque is the actual "power" figure where HP which points out that you can use higher gear ratios to get the same top speed which you will gain in acceleration.
@PostMeridianLyf yes, in the lower rpms (lower then 5252rpm) you need alot more torque to make hp and higher then 5252 rpm you'll need less torque to make the same horsepower.
Almost 60 lbs. of boost and 10K rpm's on a 4G63?! How are they keeping that thing together? And did you notice the requirements of a dual wastegate/blowoff valve setup? Like the top comment said the fact that it makes that much horsepower isn't that impressive BECAUSE it's mostly from high boost. If you could keep it together, ANY ENGINE with that amount of air being rammed into it would make an impressive amount of power. But it DOES take someone who knows what they are doing to make it last.
Assuming my motor could handle it.... 55 psi would put me in the 2-3000hp range lol. Not bad for a 4 banger I guess. What fuel is it runnin? E85,000,000 lol?
need2speed94 3 weeks ago
mad props. if it can beat my busa then ok its fast lol and this car would barely lol
tttrey13 1 month ago
It'd be impressive if they had made the same power on a Mustang dyno instead of a Dynojet.. Just saying.
plastikseraph 1 month ago
And prolly only 500 ft-lbs of torque.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
@POPCORN454545 Pausing at the speadsheet it says 575 ft-lbs. Lol.
smallfry0764 1 month ago
@smallfry0764 Yeah that isn't a lot. Considering it's a 4 cylinder with a small mans penis stroke. Plus i want to see this engine in a year. It's going to be parts spread out along the race track, or road. Depending where hes driving.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
@POPCORN454545 Well now that's kind of ignorant. I mean while 575 ft-lbs isn't amazing, it has enough HP to make up for it. Plus, I don't know any car that sits at a 1,000hp racing without being touched for a whole year. Not happening. So do recognize that side, 2 inches does a lotta damage with 1000HP lulz.
smallfry0764 1 month ago
@smallfry0764 Torque is what gets you moving. Horsepower is what keeps you moving. That isn't a lot of torque. Plus, read what i said. I want to see that engine in a year or so spread along the race track in fine broken parts blown up. Cause that's whats going to happen to a little piece of shit 4 cylinder.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
@POPCORN454545 lolumadbro don't need 4 extra cylinders to do that.................bitch
tiki2777 1 month ago
@tiki2777 Lol mad? Nah. Extra effort put into your grammar isn't a bad thing you know. Anyways, your right. You don't. But if you did have a V8 it would be making more power than this 4 cylinder at 55 psi boost, and again....apparently you cannot seem to read the English language. This engine will be nice shitty 4 cylinder spread out along the road in parts. V8 will last longer, sorry. Learn something about cars first before you talk. Good day.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
@POPCORN454545
and that V8 will be able to put the same amount of power as a FWD car.
allwheeldrive1 1 month ago
@allwheeldrive1 What? Front wheel drive sucks ass, why would you even do that? That's retarded. And i'm not understanding what you mean by "it will put out the same power as FWD". Please enlighten your logic on me.
POPCORN454545 1 month ago
@POPCORN454545 I understand where you're coming from since I own two V8 cars ('01 Mustang GT daily driver, and an '86 Camaro that's currently torn down, thinking about an LS1/T56 swap) but don't be so ignorant towards I4 imports.
Up until the LS1, 302, and PI 4.6 liter Ford, most American V8s sucked ass. Shitty weak head castings that would crack, weak stock internals. And V8s were never super popular with imports either until lately.
kcole939 4 weeks ago
@kcole939 V8's never really sucked ass. Back in the day, people made their motor's N/A monsters (some still do) and a V8 is a great foundation for that as opposed to a 4 banger or a sixer. Nowadays, everyone knows making huge power easily means ton of boost. So now, all those small displacement 4/6 cyls make huge power off of tons of boost with strong internals and eat N/A V8s. The V8s that "suck" are the ones that can't handle all that boost, but can still make serious power on motor.
need2speed94 3 weeks ago
@need2speed94 You have to understand that back then, the way to get power = bigger engine. The quality of the castings weren't the best, so that meant more material. Next thing you know, just the block is over 250lbs, with heads weighing quite a bit over 100. Not to mention that almost every BBC had 2 bolt mains, that couldn't handle much RPM.
Things have come a long ways. Reason why I'm going to be throwing an LS1 into my third gen, and the reason why my Mustang's heads only weigh 44lbs.
kcole939 3 weeks ago
@kcole939 Oh believe me I understand that very well lol. Huge displacement, silly long stroke, high compression and leaded gas man haha. And about 2 bolt main blocks... garbage for boost. That's what I was referring to. LS1 3rd gen huh? I was hunting for a 3rd gen but finally decided to settle for a 98 Z/28. I love 3rd gens man, good luck with it! You also going with a T56?
need2speed94 3 weeks ago
@need2speed94 That's becoming the plan, when I get around to it anyway. Already running a 26 spline T56 in my '01 GT, Centerforce DFX, Fidanza flywheel, 03-04 Cobra aluminum driveshaft, Steeda tri ax shifter, etc. Good transmission.
Originally wanted to do a turbo SBC/auto since I already had the 700R4 core and a 4 bolt 350 block, but it would just be overly heavy up front, making it not much fun to drive anywhere but in a straight line. Plus I'd also like it to be decently fuel efficient.
kcole939 3 weeks ago
@kcole939 Ahh. Nice man, T56's are pretty tough tranny's man. When I first picked up my Z28 I was surprised how good of a tranny it was for a budget sports car. If you already have a SB 350 and an auto I'd definitely go for a nasty strip setup, but that's just me. Since you mentioned gas mileage I'm guessing it's mostly going to be a street car/daily driver, so maybe the LS1/T56 would be better for that.
need2speed94 3 weeks ago
@need2speed94 Just a weekend type car, since it has no AC, heat, radio, etc. But building something that'd be grossly inefficient with it would just bother me. That's another project for another car, like an old first gen Camaro if I ever pick one up.
Sold the stock 700R4 for $200, still have the 4 bolt block sitting in the garage. I'll have to figure out something to do with it eventually, or just sell the block.
kcole939 3 weeks ago
@kcole939 Ahh gotcha. Sellin the block would be a good way to fund the LS1/T56 swap.
need2speed94 3 weeks ago
@kcole939 Yes and that was 30 - 40 years ago. V8's kick ass now. But now wankels have the stage. 1.3 L or w/e makes 1000 horse? That's insane. Point is i4's are supposed to have 140 horsepower in the family car. Not 1000 horse power at the wheels and going to blow up in a couple years. If my dad were to put 55 PSI boost on his 489 that would put him at like 1800 horse. Assuming it could handle that much fucking pressure.
POPCORN454545 3 weeks ago
@POPCORN454545 Lol, just stop with the expert act, exact HP numbers, the intended use for each engine, etc.. You automatically already discredited yourself with this: "V8 will last longer, sorry."
It's COMPLETELY dependent upon the specific engine. A simple dropped valve could destroy even the most "bulletproof" V8. This car makes over 1K HP with a 2.0 4cyl. Anything with this type of power, no matter the size, is typically tore down every 1-3 years for inspection/rebuild. Won't last forever.
kcole939 3 weeks ago
@POPCORN454545 Now keep in mind, I am mainly a V8/American car guy, no Evo fanboy here. But, all the bigger V8s have going for them with these types of builds, less HP per C.I. Slightly less stress to the head castings, valves, pistons, etc, due to lower pressures. In the end, any 1,000 HP car, 4cyl or V8, has that stress of 1,000 HP against it's rods and crank.
Look at the Bugatti Veyron. 16 cylinders, 8 liters, 4 turbos, between 987-1,200 HP. Then look at the maintenance costs.
kcole939 3 weeks ago
@kcole939 SHUT THE FUCK UP, go back to your pile of POS V8, farting blob of metal
imagewise 2 weeks ago 2
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@imagewise Lol, why don't you shut the fuck up, get a fucking life, a job, and learn how to read.
Refer to my previous comment to POPCORN454545: "I understand where you're coming from since I own two V8 cars ('01 Mustang GT daily driver, and an '86 Camaro that's currently torn down, thinking about an LS1/T56 swap) but don't be so ignorant towards I4 imports.
Up until the LS1, 302, and PI 4.6 liter Ford, most American V8s sucked ass."
I was clearly sticking up for imports, since I like them.
kcole939 2 weeks ago
@imagewise A big block v8....a piece of metal...sounds more manly than you will ever be. Grow some balls and come back when you don't think that a wankel is better than a piston engine asswipe. You're from Texas aren't you? Only steers and queers come from Texas, and you don't look like much of a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Shut the fuck up maggot.
POPCORN454545 2 weeks ago
@POPCORN454545 go back to your daddy and cry a little
imagewise 2 weeks ago
@imagewise Why would i go cry to my dad? If anything i'd go cry to my mother. Just because you can't accept simple facts doesn't mean that you're lawn mower engine is good. Go back to Texas you fucking queer.
POPCORN454545 2 weeks ago 2
now just think if you threw that boost to built a 5.0 co, or a ls7 you would see almost 2k or more so not really impressed.
delo690 1 month ago
@delo690 That's true, but this is a 2.0L 4 banger surviving 55psi and putting 1000 to the wheels. It's impressive.
iPROFITDON 1 month ago
@delo690 it not just about power um power to weight ratio and traction make a big difference to just to name a few
bulletman001 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
my lawnmower threw down 8.5 wheel hp on the dyno.... beet that BITCHESSSS!!!!
fish10782 1 month ago 2
So the boost doesn't even come on until you've reached the normal redline!!! LOLOL!!
bliglum 2 months ago
eargasm
Deuc35 2 months ago
1k hp on a 2 liter, impressive. On the down side, now that you tested it a few times, I'm sure its time to rebuild the engine.
kraemer66 2 months ago
@kraemer66 so you think it runs on stock internals?:)
4stinduction 2 months ago
@4stinduction Of course I don't think it runs on stock internals. I'd be shocked if they even started with a stock block.
kraemer66 2 months ago
The "more HP" arguments are pretty stupid on here! With a power adder and a big enough wallet, you can make all the power you can dream up. How about 8000 HP? Boring arguments. Making reliable, efficient power is another story. Let's admit it, turbos and superchargers are a kind of novelty now. NA power is still king. This car in the vid, for example, wont last long before being torn down. It is JUST a dyno queen, and maybe some strip running. But have no doubt, she'll have to get torn down.
9b8 2 months ago
@9b8 You made that statement based on what? F/I has been around for a LONG time, so I would call it more than a novelty. Appropriately designed F/I allows engines do things they could not do by the rules of science. More than small displacement 4cylinders are turbo charged successfully for long periods of time. At the same time, I've seen countless V8's pop under bolt-on NA power. Sounds like your statement was based on ignorance and nothing more.
BlueByYou2004 2 months ago
@BlueByYou2004 Well he's kind of right, hes trying to say N/A is more reliable which is true. You're more likely to blow your shit up from boost. Other than that though, making your car faster in general usually makes your car burn out faster too whether its F/I or N/A. A good tune is where its at. If you have enough money then obviously you can pay to play.
betterdropdatdonk 2 months ago
@betterdropdatdonk Thank you! Someone is able to see the forrest through the trees! I like a nicely tuned forced induction setup just as well as the next guy. But gosh, shit loads of hot shots on here shit talk and shit talk and shit talk about "bad ass turbo" to the point that it gets nauseating. I rank the ignorance (thanks, BlueBy) along with "no replacement for displacement." Simply speaking, I'm a believer in a potent NA platform (e.g. S65/S85, S54, Coyote 5.0L, F20C/F22C, HR10EG, etc).
9b8 2 months ago
@BlueByYou2004 "F/I has been around for..."
No shit, Sherlock. My basis is that the majority of engineering discipline revolves around potent NA engine development. Yes, it is in general possible to build a reliable turbo-based platform; no one argued that...ever. My gripe is with 'd00dz' on here having ego wars over boosted HP as if it is some ultimate acheivement or bragging right. Ignorance. There is always a know-it-all. Rather, it sounds like you are a victim of your own accusations.
9b8 2 months ago
vreeeeem kizuwowo vreeeeeeem kizowowo vreeeeeeem kizuwowow
jjjjoshchristian4 2 months ago
lol @ 55 psi
Imakeplanesboom 3 months ago
1014 WHP 55 PSI 2.0 @10,000 RPMS ON WHAT USED TO BE AN EVOLUTION 8* corrected that for yah
TonightsSpecials 3 months ago
I take it they aren't trying for any kind of long engine life?..
burningsociety 3 months ago
What's it run in the 1/4, or does it only race dynos? Typical.
montegod7ss 3 months ago
What good is all that hp at the very end of your gears?
soldierx345 3 months ago
@soldierx345 think of it like this.... all the way through the rpm its just gaining more and more HP all the way to the top... unless most v8 you see that hit full toque and hp at a low rpm, then what happens is it slowly looses its torque and hp all the way to rev limit...
Tj1056 3 months ago
better be careful or you get sucked right into it lol
DeathlyHall0w 3 months ago
...and i jizzed in my pants
dsmmonster11 3 months ago
What kind of turbo can handle that kind of pressure?
XxthefailnessxX 3 months ago
@XxthefailnessxX A real mans turbo! 55 PSI really isnt all that much thou lol
BetterNReverse 3 months ago
my "dinosaur" v8 on 55lbs of boost would fuck you in the ass and make you its bitch... nice evo tho!
BagpipekilR 3 months ago
That evo is sexy as fuck
gothemi89 3 months ago
guys, horsepower sells engines, but torque wins races. take it from me, i have a 454 big block chevy in a 74 corvette. heavy car, but 7.4 liters and 500 foot pounds of torque make it rape any 4 cylinder its come across. don't believe me? look at my videos.
lightersknivesguns 3 months ago
@lightersknivesguns your wrong. 55 psi at 10000 rpm and 90 psi will smoke even a tuned 454. a 454 is fast but im pretty sure this evo will smoke a 454
pawnstar365 3 months ago
@lightersknivesguns Denying the power of a tuned 454 would be stupid. Im sure you have an amazing vehicle considering your being honest. But if you think your gonna RAPE a 1000+rwhp awd car,your out of your mind. If your talking baout beating the majority of what you come across on the street sure,thats unarguable. But The car in this particular videois on another level,and full race evos ,and civics ( 4 cyl cars ) running 8s & 9s and insanely high traps are no joke
fresh81steez 3 months ago
@lightersknivesguns Ok and you think 1000 hp 4 cylinder has what? 63 ft/lbs? Power to weight ratio effects are key here. Numbers are numbers... fine. If you're car dropped 500 lbs of weight, it would be "faster", right? So to acheive the SAME 1/4 mile time as the "heavier" version would require LESS power, right? Right. See how this plays out? Less power, same results... power to weight ratio... and FYI, that 1000+hp 4 banger probably has more torque then your Vette ;)
Speedcult77 3 months ago
@lightersknivesguns
First that's wrong ''horsepower sells engines, but torque wins races'' who ever said that is moron.
Next, in about your vette you are right. On thing I can understand, always when I watch some video, there's some idiot fighting about 4cyls vs 8 cyls?? is that even comparable??? No it's not.
FYI I saw 4 cylinder engine big as much as 4x V8 7.4 liter engines, that means each cylinder is big as your 1 V8.
Yes, 28 liter, straight 4... made by Fiat in early 20's
2jzgtejza80 3 months ago
@lightersknivesguns
Still today, in Vietnam, Korea, China, and some Asian countries Toyota have in pick up cars 4.5 L, 5.0 L and 6.0 liter, 4 cylinder diesel pushrods, (Fiat / Opel/ design).
So your 7.4 liter V8 is not so big. What you think about BMW, 47 liter V12 producing 3500 bhp naturally at just 2500 rpm, or 36 liter V12 Merlin producing 2000 bhp naturally ???
Power and displacement NOT depends about number of cylinders. Remember that.
2jzgtejza80 3 months ago
pretty sweet car. Correct me if I'm wrong but i've only seen V8 powered cars do 3 second runs on a 1/4 mile.....o_O and Im sure a 772ci naturally aspirated car would put this car to shame. HOWEVER said cars and engines would not in no way be streetable so cudos to this 4 banger
fish10782 3 months ago
I drive a Camry, 35mpg.
chasen15666 3 months ago
@chasen15666 camry's fucking rock dood
IMGLADU8C4 3 months ago
The Veyron have 16 cylinders and 4 turbos that produces 1000bhp, that's from a 16.4. but this car is sick, even getting further off the line with just 4cylinders, plus the thought of this car being lightweight and AWD is even further. Cars that have larger displacement are a lot heavier thus making them pretty much wasteful with their power. LanEVO FTW!!!
HeroshiKurashiwa 3 months ago
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT V8s! Jesus Christ! This beast is awd and pry still gets 20+mpg. Stick that in your gay camaro and smoke it.
velle71 3 months ago
Throw that much boost and fuel pressure into a worked V8 and then talk. THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT
MrDandoc89 3 months ago
@MrDandoc89 You are right, but the pricing for putting this work onto a 4 cylinder is much better. There is a reason you see more Evo's tuned like this than your V8's you love so much. People who love muscle always get mad and hate on 4 bangers with turbo's, but I guess i'd get mad too if i always had to stare at the tail lights of a car with a third the displacement and half the cylinders :]
bharvey2010 3 months ago
@bharvey2010 I'm not hating on 4 bangers man lol. I drive a 2.2 S10. And I love Srt4 Neons. I'm just stating that you'll never get as much power out of a 4 cylinder as you will a V8.
MrDandoc89 3 months ago
That awsome and all. But can it do that without the turbo? not sarcastic question btw.
kizzymeow12 3 months ago
wtf 4 pistons making over 1000hp is mind boggling i used to hate on imports but when you see videos like this it makes you think twice before trolling on such a beast of a car.
JsDs1020 4 months ago
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yourleftnut1 4 months ago
No mention of torque, the real factor behind acceleration.
TequilaKG 4 months ago
@TequilaKG if u look at the screen when they show the hp it say 573.71 tq
ReeferCloud420 4 months ago
@TequilaKG Real factor behind acceleration is weight, not mindless torque with really thick tires to absorb mindless power going to the wheels and mindless praying to car gods that it gains traction even for a few secs. Pretty sure that stripped Evo is sub 3000lbs and could pull a really impressive 0-60, quarter mile, and still be used on the track and for the ride home.
iTzVladd 4 months ago
@iTzVladd Weight allows torque to reach it's full potential.
TequilaKG 3 months ago
@iTzVladd Well aware of hp/trq per pound. I am mentioning that alot of import videos and some domestic videos display horsepower but not torque. I believe imports might reach decent horsepower but don't always achieve torque.
TequilaKG 3 months ago
brrrooooOOOOOooo...
pssszz....
lolampaxo 4 months ago
So do you shift at gravel?
PiroFyre 4 months ago
how much with an exhaust ? LOL
goodlucks7even 4 months ago
55psi holy shiiiii
SacredDicing 4 months ago
is that just a straight pipe
airmannajera 4 months ago in playlist turbo and exhaust sounds
Damn I need y'all to tune my evo 8
Krazilegz89 4 months ago
Could you imagine if it jumped off the dyno tracks? ROFLtart. Also.. A super nice car.. Stripped and ruined... Give me it.
XxthefailnessxX 4 months ago
funny how these idiots are on here talking about their V8's and V12s,, that make almost the same power but with another 4 6 or 8 cylinders, and another 4 6 or 8 liters..
arich357 4 months ago
@arich357 and another couple thousand pounds heavier
SacredDicing 4 months ago
@arich357 The only reason V8's don't get modded to a full potential, is because that turns them into a DRAG CAR.
TequilaKG 4 months ago
lol thats not an evo, if it was it would be smoking hahaha
shaunrwil 4 months ago
como le pongo 10.000 rpm a un auto
jairo014 4 months ago
fuck when he slows down sounds like a jet
greensnake00 4 months ago in playlist greensnake00's Favorited Videos
can it finish a lap at nurburgring? 55psi sound crazy.... wont the engine blown?
secrettidus 4 months ago
LOL it takes this jap crap 55 PSI to make ONLY 1000 to the wheels?!?!
hahahahahahahaha that's funny!!
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss I'd love to see American muscle make 1000+ HP to ALL WHEEL DRIVE...not just rear wheel drive. The power loss through the transmission alone on AWD is close to 22-25%. Not to mention that this engine displaces only 2.0 liters. 2.0 liters is less than what a half gallon milk carton holds. Before you insult a masterpiece like this, please do your research.
deprydation 4 months ago
@deprydation and? some V8s with auto trans make 1000rwhp and the percentage lost is 20%....i dont need to do research to insult jap crap btw.
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss too bad the engine goes through internals after a couple of passes at the strip. At least the JUN built GT-R can make 1000awhp reliably. Can't say that for your topfuel dragsters.
JonEldred 4 months ago
@JonEldred and that's why you don't run on stock internals DUH, and the gtr is junk that's why when purchasing a GTR from a dealer you had to sign over your rights to a warranty for powertrain if you used launch control and you transmission got fucked up, utter fail...
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Im sure they're not running stock internals. Yeah, the engine is only assembled in a fucking clean room and tailored to the transmission it's mated too. No shit a dealer is going to void a warranty if your race or beat the shit out of it. I can't immagine a dealer would be happy. if you slapped some drag slicks on a corvette and dumped the clutch at 6k.
JonEldred 4 months ago
@deprydation watch top gear much lmao
austinmffrd1 4 months ago
This car gimme orgasms.
dorsett45 5 months ago
Thumbs up @951PSI ...Finally a fucking intelligent comment on here! Good on ya buddy!
SoWhnDoUThnkUrGrwnUp 5 months ago 2
i can not imagine a motor at 55psi lasting very long before it breaks or needs a rebuild
whatsvtec 5 months ago
thats amazing plus thats 4wd think if it was only fwd it would be higher
UYNProductions 5 months ago
@UYNProductions it would also be a death sentence
EC17MEISTER 5 months ago
thats fuckin nuts
Cnoevo499 5 months ago
is it wrong that i had this tab open and a porn tab open and half way through this video i close the other tab and couldnt stop watching this?
OZZY2461 5 months ago
@OZZY2461
LOL
GraphicFrost 5 months ago
ouch never wearing headphones again
SrBeardsly 5 months ago
Wow.
f34rthe4banger 5 months ago
SO WHEN IS THE TRANSMISSION GONNA SNAP IN PIECES ?
hostilityy 6 months ago 23
@hostilityy Obviously he's not runnin on a stock tranny with that much power. Prolly a dogbox or somethin. Race trannies can handle far more of a beating than this evo's puttin out.
madoggyd 4 months ago
@hostilityy not for quite a while, as it probably has straight cut gears.
JonEldred 4 months ago
How does this engine not fail after going 10,000 RPM with 55 PSI bursting into the cylinder?
criticaboutvids 6 months ago
@criticaboutvids Cause it's a a fukin 4g63! Baby 2Jz, go for a drive in a Evo and u will never look back at a V8. lol
No offence intended.
Brutisxxl 4 months ago
@Brutisxxl But I mean.. this is a ridiculous amount of stress and it just keeps going..
criticaboutvids 4 months ago
just my ears are bleedin right now
Pantza2 6 months ago
WoW
Apidium 6 months ago
did I see it right....twin turbo 4 cyl??...2 Wastegates and 2 BOV
FrankLSD38 6 months ago
@FrankLSD38 twin scroll turbo use 2 wastegates to keep exhaust pulses seperate from the other 2 cylinders
:D
abhir87 6 months ago
whts the red line on that evo?
josehuerta73 6 months ago
ricer
UunonMopo 6 months ago
@UunonMopo actually, this is the complete opposite of a ricer. This video shows extreme and meticulous tuning to max out the performance of the vehicle to make sure it is as purpose-built as it can possibly be, rather than "lets put a big wing on it, a loud exhaust, a million stickers, and call it good"
EliteMadHornet 5 months ago
@EliteMadHornet What is idea for that car? It is no longer suitable for rally.
UunonMopo 5 months ago
those were to external wastegates..sik set up!!
MyJazzyp 6 months ago
2 BOV
gusti096 6 months ago
SO much air is going in n out of that engine, its not funny
Jumseg 6 months ago
And using a block from a car that originally had 68HP
moondog203 6 months ago
that's definitely a simple man's work car. love it :>
DuhuKaralius 6 months ago
just imagine what the evo would do with another 4cyl and another turbo.... lol i think we'd all like to see that
Eddcano09 6 months ago
My DREAM Evo... 2007 Evo IX (Or whatever the last year IX was made), full suspension and huge brakes, 400-500whp (street car!!) and a 8500rpm limit. Ahh that would be heaven.
cxbra 6 months ago
evo8 is best car ever made :)
SuperM1998 6 months ago
1,000 hp just isn't alot anymore in the evo world..... 1,000hp now is the new 500hp
liu41285 6 months ago
lol bag of ice on the engine. Brutal car excellent tuning. 10 points sir.
badmattitude666 6 months ago
Car sounds amazing. Good work lol
LimitlessAeon619 6 months ago
no matter how much rice there is out there there is no replacement for displacement
guitarguru0420 6 months ago
did this video make any one else laugh ha ?
nickritter1992 6 months ago
55PSI on the little 4...all i can say is O, M, G. Not a big Mitsu fan because they are known for making trucks, and the cars suck (yes, that's including the eclipse). But the EVO is an exception and it is just THAT sick.
turbobenx 6 months ago
@turbobenx you know the evo used the same engine as the turbo eclipse did for a few years right? not sure if the evo 8 ran the 4g63 but saying the eclipse sucks but the evo is an exception is kind of closed minded imo
firefoxx04 6 months ago
@firefoxx04 you're rite. I shouldnt have say what i said. But when i said it suck, it doesnt mean the hp/TQ...well, i sorta meant that too. But what i meant is the reliability of the car. If u kno and experience one, u should kno that the eclipse has many problems with the tranny and engine. Altho it stores the 4g63 (older models), but it wasnt tuned to the likes of the EVO.
And yes, the evo8 stores the 4g63, however, it is not a MIVEC engine like the EVO9....the EVO9 imo, is the best model.
turbobenx 6 months ago
very nice video, didnt think you could get that much power out of a small engine. but with that much power in a little engine and with that much thrashing, the engine is going to be fucked after 10000ks
guesswho747 6 months ago
im sure it doesnt take 55psi to make 1000 hp with this engine
MrNicholas586 7 months ago
4G63 is a hell of an engine. :D
Jabid21 7 months ago
full boost at 8000rpm , hahhahahaha :)
Tomek2581 7 months ago
"so wat do you shift at? 8k or 9k?" ,"um na once hit hits the tarmac setting" lol
TMPT50 7 months ago
To all morons on here babbling on arguing about reliability gas miliage and so forth thing about it I highly doubt they intended it for neither you don't build a 1000+hp car for gas mileage so get a life and stop arguing about it
subiguy123088 7 months ago
1000+hp. whats the tq?
Inuyashatg98 7 months ago
If it were a IX motor with MIVEC it would have been 1100whp
SpoonFedonFacebook 7 months ago
how many gears does it have!!!
MurdaINCBaller 7 months ago
Fair enough the builders got 1000+ hp @ 10,000 rpm nothing against those guys, that's their job
But what most of you don't understand is HP dosn't mean anything. it's just a formular worked out from torque and rpm. HP = Torque x RPM / 5252(rpm)
So in theory if he reved another 5000 rpm more keeping a straight torque line he would make 700 more HP Really his just reving more and still puttin the same torques on the ground.
951PSI 7 months ago 15
@951PSI So what you wanna say is it doesnt matter what HP you have. If you have the same torque youll be as fast? Youre saying this evo would be just as fast if he kept the same torque figure but had his maximum revs to 2000rpm? Dude even if you change the gearing, you wont come anywhere with those 200hp it would make.
Fact is HP gets the car going. It doesnt matter if you have 30lbs torque, if you do it at 20000rpm, and gear it right, it will go fast.
bingoberra18 7 months ago
@bingoberra18 you do know Torque is measured by how quick it travles a distance by rpm and time intervals. the flat torque line in this video shows that you can put some decent gears in it and go fast. like F1 cars have nice flat torque lines and use it all with their gear ratios. BUT when you change gear ratios and put it on the dyno... numbers change.(whp/wtq)
951PSI 7 months ago
@951PSI No torque is a just a twisting force, you can apply 500lbs of torqe on an axle without it rotating. So what that means is torque doesnt say how fast anything can move. You need torque and revs to make it move, and that equates to horsepowers. Wich means horsepowers is what gets you going.
bingoberra18 7 months ago
@bingoberra18 but we're talking about moving objects so the torque applys to the moving object. At the end of the day it's the torque that makes horsepower. if HP= Torque x rpm / 5252. if you have 0 and you multiply it by any rpm you still have 0. rolling roads measure torque then do the equation to get the HP. say you have 300lb torque from 3000 - 5000 rpm.. from 3000-4000 (228hp@4000rpm) the car will accelerate at the same rate as 4000-5000 rpm(285hp@5000rpm) even though theres more horsepower
951PSI 7 months ago
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turbobenx 6 months ago
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@951PSI "At the end of the day it's the torque that makes horsepower"....i dont even need to read what u said or talking about, because you're already wrong just by saying that. TQ provides HP, not "make" HP.
turbobenx 6 months ago
@951PSI Sir, what im saying is torque in the matter of the word doesnt accelerate a car. You cant tell me torque alone gets a car moving, because its the torque combined with the revs, and the torque combined with revs is the same as horsepower. If your example stands, why would racingcars keep high revs even though the torque is much lower thant there than in midrange?
bingoberra18 6 months ago
@bingoberra18 I never said that only torque gets the car moving. it takes one to start the other... it takes the torque of the engine to make rpm which both of them is horsepower. it's like you dont choose a clutch by how much howsepower you car is making you need to know the torque. horsepower is more for gearing and not bragging rights of raw power. but it's better to make more torque at a higher rpm so you can take advantage of gearing. thats where horsepower comes into play.
951PSI 6 months ago
@951PSI Torque decides the linear acceleration, however HP decides the terminal velocity. Just read a few pages from fluid mechanics and you will understand what I mean.
AlmightyGTR 5 months ago
@951PSI Alright...as a math guy I have a question on your formula.
you wrote your formula as...
HP= Torque x RPM / 5252(rpm)
This confuses me a little, because the number 5252 isn't really derived from anything. Is it the redline, the current RPM, what? Otherwise your formula is this...
HP=Torque x RPM / RPM
Further simplified to
HP=Torque x 1
A number divided by itself is always 1. This equation is always going to be HP=Torque.
Perhaps the / symbol was used as an [or] operator?
EliteMadHornet 5 months ago
@EliteMadHornet
when you put a car on the dyno it measures the torque at the wheels. to get horsepower the computer does the fomular HP = Torque x RPM/5252. on the dyno chart, the data shows is torque, so for example you get the torque at any given rpm, lets say at 4000 rpm theres 340 ft lb of torque. so to work out the horsepower at 4000 rpm you use the formular 340 x 4000/5252 which equals 258.9 HP. so depends on the dyno it will do the fomular for every 1 or more rpm to work out the hp.
951PSI 5 months ago
@951PSI no your wrong actually hp means everything , your right about the math but u act as tho it would be easy to keep that amount of torque at that rpm level ITS NOT the formula was made for a reason very hard to keep the torque like that at those high rpm
barnchips 5 months ago
@951PSI This is correct.
modede30 5 months ago
@951PSI This is correct.
modede30 5 months ago
@951PSI Torque CAN be calculated like that, but horsepower is actually a real figure that can be measured, and does effect performance.
abacacus 5 months ago
@abacacus are you serious?
horsepower is a calculation of a real figure.
"torque can be calcuated like that" um... torque is calcuated by that and thats how you get your horsepower
951PSI 5 months ago
@951PSI
*disclaimer, I'm not sure of what I'm saying here, I'm asking questions*
So would an engine with more torque bot lower revs be faster or slower then an engine with less torque but higher revs?
abacacus 5 months ago
@abacacus it depends. if both the cars are identical, but making the same horsepower, 1 at 3000 rpm and other at 7000 rpm, the car with the lower rpm HP will need a lot more torque then the 1 with the higher rpm HP.
in a drag race, the car with low end torque will probably launch quicker and keep its distance if it shifts just past his hp limit so just past 3000 rpm while the other will have a higher top speed, over double because he can rev higher and probably pass him in the end.
951PSI 5 months ago
@abacacus (continue) for the lower end car to have the same top speed it'll need different gear ratios, if the ratios are right, it'll give it the same top speed but it will struggle and will be out accelerated by the high end car.
My point here when originally posted was that HP isnt really bragging rights to a "powerfull engine" since torque is the actual "power" figure where HP which points out that you can use higher gear ratios to get the same top speed which you will gain in acceleration.
951PSI 5 months ago
@951PSI Wow i never knew that! Thanks for the info. So more torque > more hp?
PostMeridianLyf 5 months ago
@PostMeridianLyf yes, in the lower rpms (lower then 5252rpm) you need alot more torque to make hp and higher then 5252 rpm you'll need less torque to make the same horsepower.
951PSI 5 months ago
@951PSI So this is why they say no replacement for displacement?
PostMeridianLyf 5 months ago
30 mechanics exclusively work on broken mitsubishi evo motors and havnt had work in years!
TheBulitt 7 months ago
an ice bag? Nice way to cool down the mainfold
digajjj80 7 months ago 2
i would love to have this as a daily driver...."hey how come u dont have a radio?" cuz this sounds better WAHHHHHHH PSHHHHTT!!!
jsaulgodoy 7 months ago
@jsaulgodoy turbo hits at 6k, go that far on road if u can:P
everyday602430 7 months ago
@everyday602430 nice....with pleasure ill put a big shopping cart sticker that says catch me if u can
jsaulgodoy 7 months ago
Almost 60 lbs. of boost and 10K rpm's on a 4G63?! How are they keeping that thing together? And did you notice the requirements of a dual wastegate/blowoff valve setup? Like the top comment said the fact that it makes that much horsepower isn't that impressive BECAUSE it's mostly from high boost. If you could keep it together, ANY ENGINE with that amount of air being rammed into it would make an impressive amount of power. But it DOES take someone who knows what they are doing to make it last.
Chris17psi 7 months ago