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  • I'm Terran, I've been offracing as Zerg for a while and I've been losing to cheap tactics such as Mass Marines and such. Instead of complaining about balance, I think about what did I do wrong, what could I do better, etc. etc.

    If there was a balance problem, Blizzard would fix it by now. Blizzard isn't the kind of game developer who would let their games rot because of imbalance. If they were, Warp Gate research would still finish by 40 seconds nowadays.

  • @neozxa Terran are being nerfed in the next patch, and were nerfed in the last patch.

  • lol, for once I agree with everything hitler says. :)

  • Blizzard has recently addressed that Terran is UNDER powered at the lower levels. They're not happy with Terran's win ratio. I'm not even kidding.

    Blizzard won't be happy till the Terran win ratio is 100%.

  • @sparkyk24 protoss > terran right now this video is old

  • @sparkyk24 Not really, the reason why they addressed that Terran is "UP" in lower levels is because Terran is harder to play on the lower levels. But on higher levels, Terran is doing pretty fine.

    Not saying Terran is OP or UP.

  • if you know german joke is broken.

  • @coldvolcano22 this video is over a year old and the whining in it is no longer applicable. appreciate it as comedy not a take on CURRENT TvP balance.

  • @NattyStarcraft It's totally applicable if you're a zerg. Zerg can't do SHIT vs a terran, unless you have 200000 APM and constantly pulling cheesy shit to whittle them down little by little. All a zerg can really do is try to stop the expansion and keep trading with double the number of bases until they bleed their minerals.

  • THUMBS UP IF U LIKE PROTOSS

  • "My life for aiur" lmao

  • At the time this video was made, it was SO TRUE. But now, it's only mostly true.

  • It's not marauders that are op, nor marines. It's stimpack as a whole.

    That and the ridiculous ability to protect intel. Terran is so hard to scout.

  • Thumbs down for asking for thumbs up

  • I fucking love it! Burst out laughing at the "My Life for Auir!"  :D

  • MARINE/MARAUDERS VERY VERY OP! FUCK THAT SHIT!

  • As a protoss player I've found ways to beat Terran players most of the time, but it seems to me like i have to try much harder than they do and tech faster. When I'm up against a Terran player who is as skilled as me or slightly more skilled i lose.

    I don't like how Protoss has been reduced to a hit and run and sentry force field dependent race. Protoss are supposed to be devastating warriors that don't need to run and hide after every push or counter-push.

  • @ColdVolcano22 If they nerfed marauder slow... so you can't infinitely slow units or it costs energy... that would help. And also marauders shouldn't be able to stim.

  • @noobenstein I agree, the maruader slow ability is OP and needs to be nerfed.

  • @ColdVolcano22 marauder slow is fine for me. then again, I play zerg so I don't really feel it. anyhow, from the 4v4s where I've played toss, I can say that what irks me about marauders is the stim more so than the concussive shell. anyhow, having charge zealots and force fields and range 6 immortals help out a lot. aside: i hate it though when I lose my sentries T_T makes me qq.

  • @idleeidolon 4v4 is a very different gameplay dynamic involving much more unit specialization and the advantage of massing up a little more while your allies hold off any smaller waves. I was talking more about 1v1. Even charge lots aren't much use once the bio ball is large with stim and medivac reinforcement, which is standard terran.

    If it wasn't for maurader slow and vikings i think i would've won a lot more games.

  • @ColdVolcano22 you have a point there. but i'm still more annoyed by how much damage a pack of stimmed marauders can to to armored stuff and to buildings. especially since they have so much HP to spend when stimming. stimmed rines can fail especially when the player over stims at the wrong time and gets his bunch of rines dead to a fungal or a storm. marauders are just a bit too forgiving of bad control imho T_T

  • @idleeidolon Agreed. In fairness Terran isn't half as OP as it was back in the day, it's been patched well, i just think it needs slightly more nerfing. I liked the idea of the guy who said marauder slow should be energy dependent, so that when they run out of energy they can't slow until they have more.

  • @ColdVolcano22 all in all, i feel that terran units themselves aren't OP, it's just that they cost so much less gas than the other races. and it isn't in a unit vs unit comparison, it's in the dynamics of the fight, where to do a certain amount of damage to another player, the other races have to invest more gas in a certain composition than terrans have to. sure their weakness is that they burn through their mins thanks to mules and they are more vulnrable to starve tactics but they have pfs

  • @idleeidolon Overall i agree with that assessment, i still think marauder's are a little too cheap, but yes you're right to say it has to do more with the macro dynamics of the fight. For Dark Templar work great in a short game and starve tactics are my only way to win a long game. If i can get a proxy pylon in at the start that works out too.

  • @idleeidolon I agree. Whenever I watch a game casted on Youtube and see stimmed Marauders ripping through everything, I just have to stop the vid and look elsewhere for a while. It's so painful.

    You don't see Stalkers or Roaches doing the same. You don't see Immortals or Hydras doing the same, they're too slow. Marauders, now they are fast boys. In general I just think that Blizzard loves Terran all too much for the game to be ever balanced properly.

  • @TheTwilightUnicorn Terran is pretty balanced right now IMO. The only broken thing left in Terran is Snipe vs Zerg.

  • @noobenstein Do you really think people would still make marauders if they couldn't stim? That's like saying zealots shouldn't be able to charge.

  • @HRCSJSUAMMAS Nope. Marauder have slow AND stim ability. That's two abilities. How many do zealots have?

  • @noobenstein rofl wtf you talking about ... zealots are like fucking tanks... they take a shit load of damage without dying.... not to mention fucking colosus don't even bring that shit up .... stalker..chargelot...colosus ... protoss win everygame

  • @sinsukiller shows how much you know... last game the enemy just had marine, not even marauder. A efw stims and medivacs to help. Killed my army which was larger. Only had 1/1 upgrades, and I had more. Nothing can be done about mass stim marine. Chargelots evaporate before they get close even.

    Tier1 unit destroys everything.

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  • @noobenstein colossus = fun

  • @noobenstein i deeply agree with the word ----EVAPORATE----

  • @noobenstein I'd make marauders if they couldn't slow. Not if they couldn't stim, though.

  • @ColdVolcano22

    You have colossus...Im scared of them

  • @AstropilotStudios Which cost 300 min and 200 gas and aren't that great unless you have the range upgrade on them which costs additional resources. In short, Colossus is a tier 3 unit that isn't really viable on one base. If we do go 1 base Colossus and the one or two we pump out end up getting slowed by marauders and dying that's pretty much game over.

  • @ColdVolcano22

    Im still scared

  • @ColdVolcano22 i just wanna know which server are you in, probably nor korea right?

  • @eternity00000 Nope, North American server.

  • @eternity00000 current GSL stats show terran winning 66% of TvZ matchups, and toss winning 57% of PvZ matchups. Zerg is a garbage race right now.

  • @ctsincebay what about PvT?

  • @ColdVolcano22 Protoss ez'est race to use hands down they dont need to attk jsut force feild there ramp and wait till they have an army before attking ... its a noob friendlly race

  • @sniperkid23333 You do realize ff only lasts a few seconds and then energy runs out right? Also, each sentry costs 100 gas. Any player with half a brain would just back out and come back up with ff runs out. What race do you play?

  • @sniperkid23333 did you play starcraft I ? Protoss never need to turtle like hell, forcefield the ramp wait for collossus or storms to push out at that time, whats the problem? fucking maruader and slow

  • @ColdVolcano22 dude, no matter what race you play you will feel the same about the opposing race. It's a psychology thing. Do you think i don't hate protoss as a zerg? Everytime i see how hard i get those wins and how much effort i put into it, while enemy player has half of my APM..

  • @insight1337 I think there is some truth in what you just said but i do still think Terran is slightly OP. They're just too versatile. Are you saying as a zerg you usually have higher APM than toss? Zerg are much more macro intensive than protoss but we are much more micro intensive.

  • @ColdVolcano22 as a zerg I agree with you. i love it when I'm up against a toss who fails at force fields or misses storms or feedbacks, or blinks into lings. :D

  • @idleeidolon I know, it totally sucks. I hate having to play defensively which is why I've started practicing with Terran and Zerg as well.

  • Terrancraft made ma laugh

  • THE MARUADERS NEED A DAMN NERF and the DAMN ARCHON NEEDS A BUFF

  • Has Hitler tried chargelot archon?

  • I love OP wars. Especially since over half of the arguements are invalid or make no sense.

  • "IdrA was right all along" is the part when i bursted out laughing :D

  • fuck m/m/m, i banel that shit.

  • just cuz terran is good doesn't mean theyre op. play terran and you'll win... the whole point isnt balance, just cuz zerg sucks doesnt mean terran shud get nerfed

  • @LaughingSurgeon holy shit your retarded

  • I play Protoss...and this sounds disturbingly like me when I'm ranting at my Terran friend...on the subject of balance I think blizzard is close to evening out the TvP matchup but I think Zerg is being left out...

  • terran is more op with every patch

  • @Sajtossajt you are a fucking retard

  • I would say Marines are OP, but then think about if Marines were nerfed. Terran would literally have nothing. Some rauders, Zerg will rape that, toss would have some difficulty but would be very manageable. Terran have no good late game units, because the T1 unit is so good.

  • @RazzleDazzle2340

    terran doesnt have to worry about late game,

    they just stay on 1 base and win every time.

  • @RazzleDazzle2340 your SOOOO right!!! I mean what would they have!? ghosts with emp siege tanks best air unit viking mauaders stims lift off ghosts that's basically nothing did i forget they get a unit that can block projectiles and a unit that is a healing transport? where is that unit for zerg toss? if you say queen has heals ill rip your dick off.

  • @RazzleDazzle2340 yeah, the running joke is that 3/3 rines are the terran tier 3 unit :D not thors, bcs, or ghosts. thors are really good tho especially if you mass them and hit at a certain timing. of course they quickly become useless once the opponent figures that you have them, but hey terran is so hard to scout in the first place so i'd say there's a decent chance of making it work. LOLOLOL.

  • @idleeidolon Scan says hi. As well as stimming marines before an attack. :D

    Not saying that its op or anything :D

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  • 377 people are germans

  • my life for aiur! LOL

  • Hitler needs to forcefield his ramp

  • hellions still need a real nerff

  • @shootingmen No they don't.

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname yes they do

  • @shootingmen NO they don't. Nerfing the hellion already killed an evolving terran metagame and they're once again only suited for harrassment and early game map control vs zerg IF you have the micro for that. Your inability to spot hellion drops and not line up your probes or drones to be killed in one shot by splash damage does not call for another nerf.

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname kk , then terrans need a real nerff

  • @shootingmen Emp radius reduced to 1.5. Now shut the fuck up and go back to trying to 4 gate everyone.

  • @shootingmen No, you need to stop crying foul over bullshit. -Or at least make a rational arguement as to WHY terran should be nerfed and making a suggestion that fixes the issue WITHOUT turning terran into a shallow underdesigned race like Protoss and zerg currently are.

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname ur terran and u cant accept the fact that its OP :D, i am terran , and i can accept it :D

  • @shootingmen Like I said. Giving toss and zerg more options and flexability should be blizzards goal. Not nerfing terran to be shit. And no, you being terran means nothing.

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname nah , ur nothing in this world , u should kill yourself

  • @shootingmen Based on the comments on your page, I'd say you're the little kid that's close to suicide. I'll ask a favor of you. When you do kill yourself, try not to do so in some obnoxious, attention-seeking manner, like a public shooting or something. Jack Tompson has enough ammo to spread his anti gaming propaganda with.

    kthxbye:)

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname and it seems like u judge stuffs from the computer, perhaps you should go out more :D successful troll is successful troll

  • @shootingmen Weak. Just weak.

  • @IneedAbttrscreenname i suggest trying to nerf them in cost in a ptr by adding gas. i'm not saying this as an "absolute" solution. just something to try out and experiment. after all, that's what ptrs are for. it's just that harass from other races that does a similar amount of damage nydus/muta or dt/phoenix/warpprism costs so much more gas. and face it, with mules terrans have no problems with getting minerals.

  • @shootingmen i really do hope they try adding 10 to 25 gas to their cost in a ptr or something. good sim city, bunkers and mules allow some terrans (the decent ones) to just throw away 8+ hellions like it's nothing. after all they just lost 800 mins and it's worth it given that if only 4 of the 8+ hellions survive they have a chance to wreck your mineral line -- whatever your race.

  • 1:56 GARBAGE!!! ahahahaha

  • Hitler is bronze league.

  • Lol... Stalker Colo and Hightemplar, some phoenixs sometimes, is my build. It rapes 100% of the time

  • Someone should teach him the 3 gate robo build :P

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  • omg its like my exact arguments LMFAO

  • all i see is bronzes crying

  • @Tsepardi Terran player?

  • Whole Terran needs a nerf... Conc shells? Blue flame!? gg early game rush.

  • I think Terran is great for beginning players, as it's the easiest of all the races. But it's not OP, i've seen Huk destroy everyone in his path.

  • This is hilarious, though I'm glad I don't speak german for once.

  • i feel the same way as hitler feels, i could play terran pretty decent but i like protoss...

  • @agunsson Exactly! Terran is the noobs crutch!

  • @agunsson Bet that is the first time you have ever said those first 8 words xD

  • @ScrapperTBP lol

  • The only Hitler rage video that the subs fit with the peoples' expressions. gj

  • I guess Hitler discovered Terrans are the master race. Eh? Eh? Did someone make that joke yet?

  • this is excellent, especially if u play toss

  • My life for Aiur ;)

  • its funny cause when i played zerg at first everyone said they were OP.. so i switched to toss... got to plat... and then everyone said toss was OP.. so i switched to terran.. and then everyone said it was OP.. so fuck all you lol i do what i want :D

  • I wanna cry now, how imba Terran is in all matchups. + It's the fact, that TvT's are a coinflip - that shows the imba power of the terran. I think goliath needs a comeback, thor needs to be garbaged...

  • BEST STRAT VS TERRAN: go for a quick colossus before expo to harrass, start producing carriers for base defence then follow it up with a mothership and mass recall your 50 voids to his main. insta-win :D

  • @DeKlauwXD BEST STRAT VS TERRAN?? what are you silver league?? if you go fast colossus you will loose to a stim timing push with MM.

  • @Shortbus4 SOMEONE didn't see sarcasm when it was smeared all over his face ;)

  • @DeKlauwXD LOL! Quick colossus! That's funny!

  • People call terran imba and yet they continue to not build sentries, not scout, and try to cheese them. This doesn't work in plat+ guys, get a legitimate strategy. Oh, and toss requires the least skill. Terran need 3 different strategies to win the different matchups, and toss require 1 strategy to beat them all: Colo Ball. Marauders don't do well against most zerg units, not good in every matchup. The pros say TvP is the most even matchup right now, toss got buffs in last patch while zerg needs

  • @Reign274 What a load of BS. Yes, sentries might be a little effective, but then the siege tanks come in and you've got a banshee or two knocking on your nexus and it's gg. Terran is OP, they have been since release. At first they were RIDICULOUSLY OP, now they're just kind OP, but still OP.

    "toss requires the least skill" - LMFAO! You're a noob i can tell. Toss requires by far the most micro. gtfo.

  • @Reign274 If getting Mass Colossi was that easym it would mean toss is OP. By the time you have ONE colossi, in whatever fast build you use, you would have MMM at you, or Mecha, or Banshees ou anything Terra could have massed at that time. Colossi are the top of Toss ground, and takes a lot of time to use then. Yet Vikings bash then quickly enough to send any toss player into rage.

  • "My life for Auir!" ROFLMAO! :D

  • I liked the video mentally, i dislike it digitally because I strongly disagree about your marauder comment.

  • Hitler needs to QQ

    

  • LMAO! TERRAN CRAFT!!!! puahahahah

  • What Did the Zealot say when he went bankrupt?

    My Wife for Hire.

  • My life for Aiur

  • "My life for Aiur" LOL!

  • After HotS zerg will be OP then After LotV protoss will be OP then maybe after another major patch it'll all be gravy and we'll be happy, but for now, terran is laughably OP.

  • One year later and this is still true.

  • lol at 2:20 he said

    ich war nei auf eienr academy!

    and what stand there

    do iseriosly have to start playing Terran?

    dont fit so perfectly

  • 1,356 people play Terran and laughed thier asses off.

    340 people ALSO play Terran, and don't want a Maurader nerf.

  • This would have been funnier if Stalin was mentioned as a Terran lol

  • Hitler hasn't been this correct since he recommended killing all the... oh forget it, it's too easy.

  • The funny part of this video is that it is all completely true =/

  • oh no im seconds away from the 1337th likes!!!

  • unfortunatly its not that funny if u can speak german :(((

  • @Analgleiter just mute it

  • @Analgleiter richtig ;/

  • @Analgleiter Thats why it sucks to be a german.

  • @Analgleiter Mute it and then read the subtitles, its still funny ahah

  • i honestly hate and love marauders, but i think infestors needs a nerf.

  • Toss and Zerg ftw <3 They need to be bffs.

  • i was gonna give a thumbs up but then the marauder nerf annotation popped up :P

  • my life for aiur just torn me up!

  • lol i really wanna know what this is actually saying from german 2 english :D

  • @killakingcobra1997 You should watch "Downfall" then. It's a very impressive movie. And I'm shure it's available in English.

  • I play Terran, and honestly, I think tanks and Concusives are too strong. I'd get rid of Concusives, or make them cost more, and def increase Siege tank's and Siege modes costs too

  • @ProtoDemnGamer im starting to feel that i am a lowly player but its ridcoulous that a 3/3 toos army lost to a 1/1 terran mm and mech. Feel mauraders dont need stim, consives are fine. It just mm is so strong and makes you feel safe i guess.

  • "Everyone that got into Diamond League after swaping to Terran, get out"

    *everyone leaves*

    LMAO

  • faggot Starcraft players. As soon as they lose and their fragile ego gets bruised they cry for nerfs.

  • @Al0neStillAlive While I disagree with you, I must ask what rts game would you play in place of it?

  • @TheCollect You assume that one can not dislike the players of a game while still enjoying the game itself. Also Red Alert 3 is also pretty fun but not as popular as it was in it's hayday. In b4 you tell me that you think Red Alert sucks because I just plain don't care about your opinion.

  • @Al0neStillAlive No need to get defensive, I like RA3 :).

  • @Al0neStillAlive this is like the 2nd Starcraft video i've seen you troll on today.. seriously dude if you don't like Starcraft, don't look up videos about it and do something with your time that you actually enjoy.. you're the only faggot here from what I can tell

  • @CrispyCressant I find is laughable how stupid you come across. I like Starcraft very much, I just don't like whiny starcraft players. If that's not immediately apparent by what I said you are just fucking dumb /argument.

    so once again, I hate faggot statecraft PLAYERS

  • @Al0neStillAlive i don't think i come across as stupid at all.. like i said ive seen you comment on two separate SC2 videos and they were both negative... what else am I supposed to assume from that? and from ur previous comment it sounded like your were calling all SC players faggots, which usually insinuates that you think SC is for faggots. i'm not the stupid one here, you are.. my bad you're too dumb to make your opinions clear. you commented on 2 videos and both were bashing SC / SC players

  • @CrispyCressant All I can hear is "Hurp Derp!"

  • Honestly all this talk about Terran being op is giving me a headache :s The most powerful/expensive unit Terran has ie the Thor is rendered totally useless by HT's Feedback, the same goes for most mech units like Banshee, Medivac, Battlecruiser etc etc etc which means Terrans HAVE to Bio ball against toss. As for Zerg, well we don't exactly have an excellent counter to broodlords. If u go with marines, he sends banelings/speedlings and thors anti air is pathetic nuff said

  • @neilslats i know im getting pretty sick of it too, if zerg went for there third tier terran would get wrecked every time not to mention muta's are bs 2nd tier unit that has a 3rd tier counter yeah real balanced.

  • @neilslats So the Thor is countered by another T3 unit, who cares. A creeping siege line backed by MMM is hard for any race to defend against. And if you want the obvious counter for broodlords...vikings, they're cheap and fast.

  • @neilslats vikings vs broodlords, easy

  • @neilslats ghosts say pew pew pew. LOL. and ghosts cost way less resources and time to make than broodlords and ultras :D

  • "it's not the race"

    daring words from someone living in Nazi Germany

  • Everyone that got into diamond league after swaping to Terrans, get out!!!!! HILARIOUS

  • Terran fanboys eat shit. is it so fucking hard to conceive the idea that BLIZZARD CANNOT SEEM TO BALANCE THE GAME? stop fingering your ass to the pretense that just because it took so long for the game to be released it MUST be balanced because the fucking messiahs at blizzard are somehow perfect. YES, buttfucks, the game can be unbalanced. and it is to this day. the nerfs to terran have been trivial at best. "THE RACE IS OP AS THE PLAYER WHO PLAYS IT BECAUSE BLIZZARD DOES NO WRONG LOLOLOL"

  • @shawnatio889 Its really Impossible to take you seriously, or even try to remotely make sense of what your saying when you write in caps, talk about fingering ass and buttfucks, and swear your head off. Are you like 8 years old?

  • @shawnatio889 no one. at all. is going to listen to you. if you cuss like that......you haven't even given any reasons why terran op

  • Terran are not op :P

    Zerg dont know how to macro

    Protoss assume that their units MUST BEAT EVERYTHING

  • @MO77H3W true that, besides, Zerg 7 roach build can't be stopped if not scouted properly - Zerg can faint an expansion and then go for Roach Warren, a simple strategy that makes Terran think he's safe for a while.

    and Toss: for example, a well executed Void Ray rush (2-3 chronoboosted Rays) with a pylon on the low ground givong warp-in space on the high ground once the Rays are there is a backdoor rush madness...

    Like I've been saying, the race is as OP as the player who plays it.

  • @armaniac661 The 7 Roach build is very all in and easily countered...so is the VR rush. The VR rush requires that they don't scout the rays and don't apply much of any pressure early game.

  • @hepotitus well, I lost to a Roach push on Shakuras Plateau because I scouted in the wrong direction and it took me forever to find my opponent. As far as Toss is concerned, how many failed VR rushes have you seen? Not a lot... Look, I know everything can be countered, that's what David Kim and the others are working on, but sometimes it can't due to many factors, which doesn't make a race OP.

  • @MO77H3W Idiot

  • @lowe2009 QQ