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  • @HotDamnItsAdam you clearly have no understanding of budo. This is not all that bujinkan practitioners do. Search for soke doing iaijutsu, kihon happo, hoken juroppo, anything really and you will see that which is more impressive to the fool.

  • I think that people are taking this too literally. The kuji kiri are similar to the sanshin; they represent meta principles to be taken, understood and adapted to physical or emotional techniques. In order to perform these correctly, your taijutsu must be perfect and when your taijutsu is correct and your emotions are balanced your techniques are powerful, this has nothing to do with a 'miracle' as such.

  • hands signs are for pussyies my nigga lee would come rape the apple sauce out of his old ass

  • why this on my recommended list I practice kuji goshen ho not this

  • ridiculous

  • Just one comment about Soke and flow and such Tengu, as I agree with the basis of your other opinions, and I presume to know a bit about Soke (unwisely haha!).

    Soke's art is definitely all about allowing flow. The force isn't a forceful action, but a channel from a greater power. He says often that "you can't do anything, you have to be a vessel for the miracle to flow through" and what not.

  • Isn't it hilarious that, in the 21st Century, anyone at all still takes this bollocks seriously?

    This is no more valid than yogic flying, or astral projection, or fairies at the bottom of the garden.

    Grow up, people. Humans have moved on from this ludicrous ancient superstition.

    Ninjers... stuck in the past.

  • @slapupchrist << so astral projections & siddhi powers are fake...? AH AH AH AH I hope for you that you stay your whole life in that mind cage that you made and live happy within it...because if you ever meet with the invisible, it could destroy your limited view of life and break that weak & scared ego of your...

  • Tengu909, I personally don't believe in yogic flying or astral projection.

    Do you believe in these things??? If so, please explain how/why you believe in them.

    Thanks.

  • @slapupchrist << lol it's not about belief...It's not a religion you know...it's not even about knowledge, but rather EXPERIENCE it's the kind of things you experiment by attaining illumination after several years of internal arts practice or just meditation & contemplation.For myself, I experimented astral projection for the first time after 2 years of INTENSE TaiChi & Qi Gong training (practically 8 hours the day) so everyone has not the same equal results for the same time from such practice

  • @slapupchrist << In our modern "civilisated" world, people do not really promote spirituality (and I don't talk about religion but about real esoterism...and the Church won't claim the contrary 'cause they pretend to be a path to the Other World while they try demonizing every form of mysticism...) so if you don't have the opportunity to encounter a real spiritual master to learn to you, you may have to take a plane to be able to learn or just to "see" it by yourself

  • @slapupchrist << If you really want to live the truth rather than just hear it, you better stop arguing with people & find a real spiritual practice that you're sure you won't quit. 'Cause whatever internal arts may look different(Yoga,TaiChi,BaGua,Qi­Gong,Mantras or Mudras meditation,...),it's all about the same result : enhancing chakras & inner organs' energies.The power always comes from within, & what you may find impossible or even laughable today can seem ridiculously obvious tomorrow...

  • @slapupchrist << btw,I can understand that you don't believe this video...I don't know really much about Mr Masaaki but I personally think that he puts too much strength in drawing the lines...Kuji-Kiri doesn't work like that, you can't use the power if you think that it's by your own, you gotta let it flow by your body like you were just a tool of expression for the universal forces.But everyone know that Japanese people like to put unnecessary strength in everything they do,even in sex, so...

  • hatsumi is the authority on what he teaches and he is the only source of it alive.

  • The way he shook his fingers makes me feel like I am in trouble.

  • so please, if you would love to continue this as much as i would.... provide any historical evidence for ninjutsu being or including a martial arts component, budo , or taijutsu...

    OR, if that is too hard...

    prove takamatsu's connection to a real shinobi lineage, without using the fictional character toda shinryuken...

    since i know both of these are herculean tasks far beyond your tiny intellect's ability to resarch, i will save you some trouble, hatsumi is hiding it. he cant let u learn.

  • @Arteanor

    Now who's making outrageous claims? Reading 300 year old ninjutsu scrolls? Wow. I don't know how youtube factors into gaining credibility, but you're just trying to convince yourself more than anyone else. Reading 300 year old scrolls wont teach you anything. I guess you're elevated to book warrior now. But the book won't correct your posture, your movement.

    Secondly, where did I say anything about ninjutsu in the original post?

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    thirdly, if there are techniques and strategy within a form of engaging in combat, it's a MARTIAL ART. What can't you comprehend about this?

    We've both argued this exhaustingly in other videos, but our views are reconcilable. You need some authority figure to label a martial art to accept it, instead of perceiving what the techniques could be applicable for, which is fundamental to my original point. Read your scrolls, you'll be 300 years behind the curve.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    "thirdly, if there are techniques and strategy within a form of engaging in combat, it's a MARTIAL ART. What can't you comprehend about this?"

    ok, so we agree on the definition of a martial art...

    now what does it have to do with ninjutsu?

    it started in the japanese ninja craze with takamatsu toshitsugu,... he asked his headmaster at kukishen ryu if he could mix kuki and karate(for marketability :P) and call it kukishen ninjutsu, and his resignation to kukishen ryu.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    "You need some authority figure to label a martial art to accept it,"

    not at all, i can accept that the buj is a reasonably broad and developed system, that doesn't make it have ANYTHING to do with ninjutsu...

    " instead of perceiving what the techniques could be applicable for, which is fundamental to my original point."

    i have no problem with this regard, it is still irrelevant.

    "Read your scrolls, you'll be 300 years behind the curve."

    atleast i am ON the ninjutsu curve.

  • @Arteanor So you're only point to study 300 year old scrolls is to say you study ninjutsu?

    ...I think enough has been said.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    i can say that i know more of ninjutsu than you do...

    what was important information you should give to another shinobi to help him infiltrate and join you in an enemy troop?

    impress me.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension don't waist ur time w this man he has no knowledge of the art what so ever.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    "Now who's making outrageous claims? Reading 300 year old ninjutsu scrolls? Wow."

    its amazing what you can find on the internet. would you like the link? i also highly recommend true path of the ninja by antony cummins, he has a YT channel too, you may want to have a look... txt comments are a little limited...

    "Reading 300 year old scrolls wont teach you anything"

    uh, sure it won't... it IS only how takamatsu learned everything HE knew of ninjutsu...

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    " I guess you're elevated to book warrior now. But the book won't correct your posture, your movement."

    which isn't a problem since we can clearly see that the bujinkan's argument to change the definition of ninjutsu to include ANY martial arts component is entirely uncited. there is no evidence for ninjutsu ever being or including MA/budo/taijutsu/styles... anything. it would make no sense anyways

    cont

    Secondly, where did I say anything about ninjutsu in the original post?

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    you didn't, i mentioned it, hoping you would open your trap and say something dumb that i could bust you on, you defended the point... now it is your own...

    watch out for that, makes you look like a chump.

    now to a shinobi in a group of soldiers, doing a strange martial art is not a good idea, you would want to blend in... seems you are trying to make broad claims without giving the time period, it seems to be a lack of research...

  • The difference between Hatsumi and other martial ARTist, is he wants you to understand why you use the technique; disassemble it, take the essence, and dispose of it like the gift wrap of a present. This alone puts him above most martial ARTist. Because there is no Art in duplicating another's work, but in creating your own through inspiration and guidance of another. Refute that, trolls. Otherwise, go back to your McDojo and your UFC rules.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    "he wants you to understand why you use the technique; disassemble it, take the essence, and dispose of it like the gift wrap of a present." you mean he wants to systematically obscure the nature of ninjutsu to hide that it doesnt include his taijutsu?

    "Because there is no Art in duplicating another's work, but in creating your own through inspiration and guidance of another."

    but he doesn't teach that way, or teach the basics he has.

    " Refute that, trolls"

    i just did ;)

  • @Arteanor You're taking your own views, disregarding what I even said, and setting up a completely different argument. It's not even a straw man argument anymore; it's saying apples are oranges, therefore your argument is invalid...

    So, if I write to him, and ask him about you, he'll be able to tell me you've been in his dojo?

    You didn't refute shit, get off my internet, you're wasting my bandwidth.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension "It's not even a straw man argument anymore; it's saying apples are oranges, therefore your argument is invalid..."

    actually im telling you the opposite, that you cannot continue calling your oranges apples....

    if you want to continue your quest to change the definition of ninjutsu to one that includes martial arts, PROVE YOUR CASE.

    "So, if I write to him, and ask him about you, he'll be able to tell me you've been in his dojo?"

    no and i never said i have been...

  • @Arteanor ...So then... how can you even say ANYTHING about the way he teaches? You're just a keyboard warrior wanting to get some credibility with zero work.

    Secondly, Your argument had nothing to do with what I said, you were just trying to hijack it to argue your point.

    Thirdly, you're a moose.

    Fourthly, ggnoreplzkthx.

  • @3rdeye7thdimension

    "So then... how can you even say ANYTHING about the way he teaches? "

    because he shows and demonstrates in the same way, i have seen vids of hombu classes...

    "ou're just a keyboard warrior wanting to get some credibility with zero work.

    reading 300 year old ninjutsu manuals is ZERO WORK???

    are you soft in the head or something??

    "Your argument had nothing to do with what I said, you were just trying to hijack it to argue your point."

    your lack of understanding is ur fault

  • ...What is he doing?

  • its ironic that ppl dont find spiritual enlightenment in d most expected place, the church, but find it in the least expected place, an ancient system of combat.

  • @fardisghomeshi << maybe because Christianity is just a fucking joke...I respect & worship Jesus Christ as the enlightened being he was/is but seriously the Vatican raped his ass by writing non-sense bullshit in the Bible...such as making people believing he's dead...enlightened beings don't die lol...seriously Church is such a joke & conspiracy for power...

  • Er... Tengu909, please clear-up this for me:

    1. You are saying that the Vatican wrote things in the Bible.

    2. The Vatican is making people believe Jesus is dead.

    3. Jesus didn't die.

    Is all of the above what you really think/believe??? If so, please explain.

  • @slapupchrist << 1.Yes I'm saying they changed the original scriptures & replaced it by bullshit like the story of Adam, Eve & the magical apple or saying that God created the World in a week...I think it's all symbolic but who dares trying to understand the sense behind it?

  • @slapupchrist << 3.For average people, the soul & the body are 2 totally different things but in reality, matter is just consciousness at a raw level, as etheric soul is consciousness at a subtle level, the goal of internal practice is to merge these two levels (soul&body) then the "mind over matter" concept becomes possible & things like physical immortality, walking on water, shape-shifting or disappearing become easy to do. This is why fully enlightened beings don't really die.

  • @slapupchrist << 2.According to the actual Bible writings, until Jesus comes back to our World, every miracle that can be seen cannot be made by anyone but by "the Devil"...(even the massive healing ones like Lourdes') some people are conviced that even if they see Jesus talking himself to them (like it has been done all over the World), it has to be a "devilish" trick.

  • @Tengu909 more ridiculousness.......the world is full of snake oil salesmen

  • @slapupchrist << 2.Jesus never told he's gone. Even in the scriptures of the dead sea scrolls, he said to people who want to speak to him : "lift a rock and I am there" & "split a piece of wood and I am there". He has always been there for his believers. You can pray him whenever & wherever you are, you don't need to go to church or anything else. It's just about your power of faith in him.

  • @slapupchrist << Look how people in Vatican worship the Pope...they take every word from his mouth like it was from God himself. Did you ever see someone entering into the Vatican Church without authorisation & leave safely? The place is guarded by the Military. They do not want you to know what they're hiding

  • Why are people so very negative. To be a Buddha does not mean you are a deity, necessarily. If you remember, the Buddha achieved mastery, achieved ascension, achieved perfection or ascension. This means that you to can be this. He was a man, an enlightened man. This is a process in latin known as apotheosis, or man becomeing divine. Hatsumei is the man, but you may all become like unto him. The first step is to stop criticizing what you do not understand. The second step is for you to find

  • @TheDimensionalwalker apotheosis is ancient greek term not latin, are you saying Hatsumi is "Divine Buddha"?

  • @Cardan011 I am saying we are all Divine Buddha, if we wake up and realize. There is only One spirit here. And you too can become a part of the great I Am that you are! And your right, it is greek, but it was in latin as well, and got passed down through the eons

  • hatsumi sensei is awesome

  • Epitome of awesomeness.

  • 怪しいジジイだなw

    

  • I really believe hatsumi’s rule in the universe as the “protector or defender” reaches beyond our physical realms and extends to the spiritual realm. I know stories of hatsumi that would out right make ppl call him the next Buddha or Jesus, and that is exactly what some of his students call him. Hatsumi is the result of the self fully submerged in way of budo as a way of life. It saddens me to see ppl criticize him instead try to cherish and understand who and what he is.

  • @fardisghomeshi So basically you are suggesting is that Hatsumi is a deity of sorts? The very fact that people would call him the next buddha in and of itself shows that some of his students have created a cult like following. Hatsumi is at best a man trying to carry a dying system that will never truly be pasted on, and at worse a shyster.

  • @wayoftheforesthand dude theese weirdos sound like any back flipped cult , and each one of those has shyster type leader like Hatsumi

  • @fardisghomeshi dude you know there is a 12 step program that can help you overcome your brainwashed condition , lol this coment is hilarious next Buddha or Jesus -Hatsumi ......wow just ....insane ....

  • Beautiful Shakuhachi

  • sai satanas sai

  • Does he choose to teach americans or british the most, thats my question, im the american ninja.

  • @scor9977 hahahhahahaha ooops american ninja....what you watch shit quality videos you got ripped off by purchasing over amazon and train in your basement while cross dressing in black pijamas...priceless

  • i wish i could be there :-/

  • Fierce.

  • kinda scary

  • i think the one behind soke hatsumi is shihan richard van donk, right?

  • @thegigas yeh, his wife is back there too..

  • wow...dats great

  • thank you

  • I trained in the hombu many times i loved those saturday hatsumi classes. many things i saw there i wouldnt believe if i didnt see it with my own 2 eyes.

  • enjoy

  • what you mean incredible,I belive hatsumi sensei the last living ninja what after him is going to happen ?

  • manaka unsui is quite ninja too, man..

  • l saw the clips and read on google about this sensei but l had not a big impression as l have about hatsumi

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  • l had strong impression instead gembukan shoto tanemura ,do you agree?

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  • @chucknorrispranks

    hello, see around you , you have a lot of poor comment

  • @chucknorrispranks The best in my opinion was Muramatsu-san. If you ever get to Japan and he is teaching a class when Soke isn't then try to train with him. You won't be disappointed!

  • @apryor2006 yeah, muramatsu-san is really awesome. Him and Manaka Sensei are good freinds.

  • @weloveyoudimebag Do you know anything about him or have his contact info? I trained with him a long time ago and would like to track him down again but everyone I talk to says he dropped off the planet. Last time I was in Japan he called me but I couldn't train with him because Soke was holding a class at the same time.

  • @ninjamerlin would you like to share soem of it?

  • @ninjamerlin thanks for sharing experience, like what u mean ? im excited to know

  • Sensei is badass

  • i've always wanted to see hatsumi sensei in person, but i can't afford to go to japan to train. i'd also like to train with saito sensei in aikido...

  • I was starstruck when Soke walked into the room at Hombu... Kinda surreal, watching videos of him for years and then meeting him....

  • that's awesome, if i were there i would have been like "i'm not worthy".

  • This is kuji kiri, not kuji in. Still, you can perceive the power of his intent. That what's kuji kiri really is. To focus the power of your intent.

  • yes that's true , now it's correct

    thanks.

  • both

  • thx dude bujinkan rulez!!!

    :DD

  • haha poor guy... you will never understand the bujinkan budo life.

  • isn't that the guy who made bujinkan?

  • show a little respect its tradition its part of the art accept it or dont watch it

  • what is ?????????????

  • ????

  • why hatsumi soke show hes kuji in , because this is top secret !!

  • ?????

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