Senator Orin Hatch is a Benedict Arnold He supports the dream act go to google and type Dream act, you will find out that Orin hatch wrote it so we can pay for illegal immigrants to go to college.
this is junk, your dumb amendment didn't pass because it was and is not legitimate. im starting to believe that republicans would have been happier if George W. would have stayed in office and continued doing nothing. Look in the mirror republicans.
Are you kidding me? After Republican sociopath George W. Bush and his minions destroyed the economy prior to Obama's election, you are blaming Obama and the Dems? Republicans and Democrats stop blaming each other, and do your jobs!
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and John Boehner know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
I am far away from envy buddy. It's all about fairness, just as we all pay taxes etc, shouldn't it run all across the board? Giving more perks to the already greedy and selfish wealthiest, Are you kidding me. Read this: “less than five months after federal unemployment insurance (UI) for the long-term jobless was renewed through the end of 2011 as part of a deal to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent of Americans for two years.” and yet they want more???
a balanced budget amendment is nothing but a backdoor trick to attack social security. these people have no integrity. come right out, say what you are trying to do, and accept the consequences. guaranteed if you attack senior citizens security, by any ruse, it will be decades before republicans ever have power again. spin all the BS you want, we are not stupid. I paid into my social security all my life. you stole money from me. now shut up and pay it back
@BeingNobody1956 The average person gets 3x back from SS to what they pay in. I am 24 and I have to live with your generations debt the rest of my life. Who is stealing from whom?
@BoulderBoy101 well my generation never once thought about what we were paying going to take care of people who had already retired. we viewed it as an investment in our future as Americans. you are not for taking care of Americans you are selfish and heartless thinking only of yourself. i'm sure your parents will refuse the social security they have paid for when they retire and i am sure the are greatful for your lack of love for them
Speaking of "legitamite", how about losing the usurper King? So congress needs a "LAW" so they are forced to do what common sense dictates. Brilliant! How about charging the usrping Puppet King; forgery (long form BC), SS fraud (phony CT #), obstructing justice (Fast &Furious), and violating the War Powers Act (Libya), would make a nice start. Maybe "We the People" should start a campaign to have "our" congress arrested for "misprison of felony."
Orrin Hatch is dangerous in his proposal. The Federal Government is fundementally different from the State Governments.States do not have to respond to wars and depressions. We would have lost both World Wars or the ability to respond to respond to 9/11 and had a depression from the Bush financial fiasco if the Hatch Amendment had been in effect. At this type of Amendment has decimated California and other states.
"The five states in the worst financial condition--Illinois, New York, Connecticut, California and New Jersey--are all among the bluest of blue states. The Democrats can't hide their states abismal records, but some fools never learn...? Democrats must have their shrimp-treadmills....?
The fact is the federal government takes enough in tax receipts every month to pay the INTEREST on DEBT which AVOIDS a DEFAULT.
The Political-Class merely seeks to raise the debt limit so it may continue waging WAR and keeping the parasitic entitlement class loyal to the STATE and to avoid protests similar to GREECE.
Resist and REFUSE to cooperate with the FEDERAL LEVIATHAN.
Much of federal spending isn't even in the budget and wouldn't be affected by Hatch's 18% limit.
I am opposed to an arbitrary limit or historical average such as 18%. That figure will only be used as a goal -- not a limit. Instead, all federal spending must be restricted to roles that are authorized by the Constitution to the central government. If Congress were to abolish all unconstitutional agencies, programs, laws, regulations, policies, etc, federal spending would be less than 5%.
What makes Hatch think that Congress would respect a balanced budget amendment any more than it respects anything else in the Constitution?
We already have a limit on federal spending. It's called the US Constitution! If Hatch and his fellow congressmen would simply abolish all federal laws, rules, policies, agencies, and programs that go beyond the limits imposed by the Constitution, we would not be having the current debate about spending caps, tax increases, and balanced budget amendments!
What does being liberal have to do with doing the right thing?
People are hurting right now. So let's cut all the partisan bs and focus on doing what's right to get us out of this mess.
I'm with Obama on this one. Dems have already agreed to some spending cuts, but the problem here is that the Republicans are not budging on raising taxes for the wealthy and corporations.
We need everyone to pitch in for this, and they are not doing that. That is the real decline.
One of the first things to be done for the U.S. economy is to get rid of the tax law that allows U.S. companies to reinvest their profits from overseas operations back into those countries and never pay a dime of U.S. income tax.
I am with our President on this one! Congress should come together and do their part to support All Americans and the Executive Branch and stop the partisan rhetoric. You helped get us into this mess with unfunded wars, tax cuts and lack of control over the Medicare Drug program. Be adults and accept responsibility for the good of all the county and our future economy and agree to pass the balanced plan proposed by the President
'Job killing' tax hikes? Platitudes... Hiking taxes on the rich will not kill any jobs.
Ya. The Republicans under Bush very certainly couldn't control their 'urge to spend'. Where were you when Bush was in office? Do I smell a hypocrite?
Ya, no BBA with that little 'no tax hike without a supermajority' rider. Supermajority requirements for raising taxes existed here in CA as a result of a state referendum. Voters axed it last election; it can make balanced budgets impossible.
@Rdp321ful that will not come anywhere close to fixing the budget mess. Plus, not to mention destroying the poor and middle income levels. Think about what you are saying instead of operating on envy.
@WhereDidItAllGo7 I am far away from envy buddy. It's all about fairness, just as we all pay taxes etc, shouldn't it run all across the board? Giving more perks to the already greedy and selfish wealthiest, Are you kidding me. Read this: “less than five months after federal unemployment insurance (UI) for the long-term jobless was renewed through the end of 2011 as part of a deal to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent of Americans for two years.” and yet they want more???
My fellow Americans the days of a broken political system must come to an aprubt end if we are to survive as a Nation....Both Partys are guilty of hypocrisy....Also, We The American People are guilty for not holding our elected officials accountable. Choose this day what kind of country you want....The BBA gives strength back to the people. We must pass the BBA or suffer decline!
Forget the politicians my fellow Americans. It's all about you and me and whether we're will to hold these people accountable. What kind of country do we want to have?? is what we need to ask ourselves. Pass the BBA Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is insulting to our intelligence. You guys voted to raise the same debt ceiling 16 times during the Bush era? You weren't concern about our children future the? Or it is about Republican v.s. Democrat in the white house? As a republican during the Bush era I was ashamed of my party and with everything you guy stand for I changed my party to Democratic. The country should vote you guys out of the office in next election. Stop lying to us. We are not stupid.
@kenravon So the Democrats are any different!? The Democrats are pure political too trying to get their European Socialist agenda through. The Democrats are doing the same thing now as Republicans did and even more at lightning speed. At least now there are real Conservatives being elected to office like Rubio, Johnson, Mke Lee, West, Paul, and a grassroots effort to hold them accountable.
I will never vote for another Republican for as long as I live in this country. I am sick of the RICH getting richer, and the working class supporting them! I can and will live cheaper in another country, who also allows free medical. A former US Republican
A scare tactic is being used by politicans and news reporters that seniors may not receive their earned social security payments in August and military personnel also may not be paid.
It is never suggested by any politican,including the president, that they nor their staff will not be paid either. This includes all federal government agencies and their employees.
Congress enacts rules that exempt themselves from what they can do to us.
Debt is a blessing when it isn't supporting a Ponzi scheme, which the Congress allowed to form in its fawning over the "free market." Wall Street is bankrupt, not the U.S. Treasury. The RMBS market is about to collapse.
How many trillions of Treasury's obligations are supporting this, Wall Street's Ponzi Scheme? Cancel it!
Senator Hatch, some Democrats are serious about our nation's bankruptcy. See House bills HR 1489 and HR 2451 reinstating Glass-Steagall. Congress MUST exercise its Article I Section 8 power NOW.
Per the BBA: as a Democrat, I SUPPORT it! Why? Because it will HASTEN the creation of the Bank of the United States modeled on Alexander Hamilton's conceptions. And that, sir, is why the BBA will remain dead in the water until Glass-Steagal is restored. A bankrupt Wall St. must be made to heal.
Senator Orin Hatch is a Benedict Arnold He supports the dream act go to google and type Dream act, you will find out that Orin hatch wrote it so we can pay for illegal immigrants to go to college.
sinthytechstudios 4 months ago
No joke - like EVERYTHING you've said is false.
annaborrero 6 months ago
this is junk, your dumb amendment didn't pass because it was and is not legitimate. im starting to believe that republicans would have been happier if George W. would have stayed in office and continued doing nothing. Look in the mirror republicans.
dustinauen 6 months ago
Are you kidding me? After Republican sociopath George W. Bush and his minions destroyed the economy prior to Obama's election, you are blaming Obama and the Dems? Republicans and Democrats stop blaming each other, and do your jobs!
zubari1000 6 months ago
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Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and John Boehner know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 7 months ago
What
stonethugmusic 7 months ago
FOR: @WhereDidItAllGo7
I am far away from envy buddy. It's all about fairness, just as we all pay taxes etc, shouldn't it run all across the board? Giving more perks to the already greedy and selfish wealthiest, Are you kidding me. Read this: “less than five months after federal unemployment insurance (UI) for the long-term jobless was renewed through the end of 2011 as part of a deal to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent of Americans for two years.” and yet they want more???
Rdp321ful 7 months ago
a balanced budget amendment is nothing but a backdoor trick to attack social security. these people have no integrity. come right out, say what you are trying to do, and accept the consequences. guaranteed if you attack senior citizens security, by any ruse, it will be decades before republicans ever have power again. spin all the BS you want, we are not stupid. I paid into my social security all my life. you stole money from me. now shut up and pay it back
BeingNobody1956 7 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 The average person gets 3x back from SS to what they pay in. I am 24 and I have to live with your generations debt the rest of my life. Who is stealing from whom?
BoulderBoy101 7 months ago
@BoulderBoy101 well my generation never once thought about what we were paying going to take care of people who had already retired. we viewed it as an investment in our future as Americans. you are not for taking care of Americans you are selfish and heartless thinking only of yourself. i'm sure your parents will refuse the social security they have paid for when they retire and i am sure the are greatful for your lack of love for them
BeingNobody1956 7 months ago
Speaking of "legitamite", how about losing the usurper King? So congress needs a "LAW" so they are forced to do what common sense dictates. Brilliant! How about charging the usrping Puppet King; forgery (long form BC), SS fraud (phony CT #), obstructing justice (Fast &Furious), and violating the War Powers Act (Libya), would make a nice start. Maybe "We the People" should start a campaign to have "our" congress arrested for "misprison of felony."
JakeBlakeProject 7 months ago
Orrin Hatch is dangerous in his proposal. The Federal Government is fundementally different from the State Governments.States do not have to respond to wars and depressions. We would have lost both World Wars or the ability to respond to respond to 9/11 and had a depression from the Bush financial fiasco if the Hatch Amendment had been in effect. At this type of Amendment has decimated California and other states.
SterlingGroupIntl 7 months ago
@SterlingGroupIntl Incorrect, if Congress has declared war it can avoid the amendment, also a 2/3 vote will override the amendment as well.
It doesn't make it impossible for congress to spend willy nilly, it just makes it more difficult.
BoulderBoy101 7 months ago
"The five states in the worst financial condition--Illinois, New York, Connecticut, California and New Jersey--are all among the bluest of blue states. The Democrats can't hide their states abismal records, but some fools never learn...? Democrats must have their shrimp-treadmills....?
Wildkkat1 7 months ago
The fact is the federal government takes enough in tax receipts every month to pay the INTEREST on DEBT which AVOIDS a DEFAULT.
The Political-Class merely seeks to raise the debt limit so it may continue waging WAR and keeping the parasitic entitlement class loyal to the STATE and to avoid protests similar to GREECE.
Resist and REFUSE to cooperate with the FEDERAL LEVIATHAN.
TheSmokingArgus 7 months ago
Much of federal spending isn't even in the budget and wouldn't be affected by Hatch's 18% limit.
I am opposed to an arbitrary limit or historical average such as 18%. That figure will only be used as a goal -- not a limit. Instead, all federal spending must be restricted to roles that are authorized by the Constitution to the central government. If Congress were to abolish all unconstitutional agencies, programs, laws, regulations, policies, etc, federal spending would be less than 5%.
blainenay 7 months ago
Get a clue guys. If we had a balanced budget amendment, guess what's going to get first priority in spending? DEFENSE SPENDING.
the argument will be made, "we can afford to cut funding for schools, the elderly, the poor, but we CANNOT compromise on defending the homeland"
by 'defend the homeland' they of course mean go to war in the middle east!
asphyxiafeeling 7 months ago
What makes Hatch think that Congress would respect a balanced budget amendment any more than it respects anything else in the Constitution?
We already have a limit on federal spending. It's called the US Constitution! If Hatch and his fellow congressmen would simply abolish all federal laws, rules, policies, agencies, and programs that go beyond the limits imposed by the Constitution, we would not be having the current debate about spending caps, tax increases, and balanced budget amendments!
blainenay 7 months ago
Liberalism = Statism = Decline not Progress
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
@WhereDidItAllGo7
What does being liberal have to do with doing the right thing?
People are hurting right now. So let's cut all the partisan bs and focus on doing what's right to get us out of this mess.
I'm with Obama on this one. Dems have already agreed to some spending cuts, but the problem here is that the Republicans are not budging on raising taxes for the wealthy and corporations.
We need everyone to pitch in for this, and they are not doing that. That is the real decline.
Magestrix 7 months ago
One of the first things to be done for the U.S. economy is to get rid of the tax law that allows U.S. companies to reinvest their profits from overseas operations back into those countries and never pay a dime of U.S. income tax.
scribebat 7 months ago
I am with our President on this one! Congress should come together and do their part to support All Americans and the Executive Branch and stop the partisan rhetoric. You helped get us into this mess with unfunded wars, tax cuts and lack of control over the Medicare Drug program. Be adults and accept responsibility for the good of all the county and our future economy and agree to pass the balanced plan proposed by the President
TheGrandmacarrie 7 months ago
Orrin Hatch,
'Job killing' tax hikes? Platitudes... Hiking taxes on the rich will not kill any jobs.
Ya. The Republicans under Bush very certainly couldn't control their 'urge to spend'. Where were you when Bush was in office? Do I smell a hypocrite?
Ya, no BBA with that little 'no tax hike without a supermajority' rider. Supermajority requirements for raising taxes existed here in CA as a result of a state referendum. Voters axed it last election; it can make balanced budgets impossible.
scribebat 7 months ago
The only way to a balanced budget is to have the rich pay their fair share of taxes, PERIOD!!!!
Rdp321ful 7 months ago
@Rdp321ful that will not come anywhere close to fixing the budget mess. Plus, not to mention destroying the poor and middle income levels. Think about what you are saying instead of operating on envy.
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
@WhereDidItAllGo7 I am far away from envy buddy. It's all about fairness, just as we all pay taxes etc, shouldn't it run all across the board? Giving more perks to the already greedy and selfish wealthiest, Are you kidding me. Read this: “less than five months after federal unemployment insurance (UI) for the long-term jobless was renewed through the end of 2011 as part of a deal to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent of Americans for two years.” and yet they want more???
Rdp321ful 7 months ago
My fellow Americans the days of a broken political system must come to an aprubt end if we are to survive as a Nation....Both Partys are guilty of hypocrisy....Also, We The American People are guilty for not holding our elected officials accountable. Choose this day what kind of country you want....The BBA gives strength back to the people. We must pass the BBA or suffer decline!
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
Forget the politicians my fellow Americans. It's all about you and me and whether we're will to hold these people accountable. What kind of country do we want to have?? is what we need to ask ourselves. Pass the BBA Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
These addresses need to be shorten down to 3 mins or less. People want to hear the straight skinny right away or they will tune out.
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
This is insulting to our intelligence. You guys voted to raise the same debt ceiling 16 times during the Bush era? You weren't concern about our children future the? Or it is about Republican v.s. Democrat in the white house? As a republican during the Bush era I was ashamed of my party and with everything you guy stand for I changed my party to Democratic. The country should vote you guys out of the office in next election. Stop lying to us. We are not stupid.
kenravon 7 months ago
@kenravon So the Democrats are any different!? The Democrats are pure political too trying to get their European Socialist agenda through. The Democrats are doing the same thing now as Republicans did and even more at lightning speed. At least now there are real Conservatives being elected to office like Rubio, Johnson, Mke Lee, West, Paul, and a grassroots effort to hold them accountable.
WhereDidItAllGo7 7 months ago
I will never vote for another Republican for as long as I live in this country. I am sick of the RICH getting richer, and the working class supporting them! I can and will live cheaper in another country, who also allows free medical. A former US Republican
addelynelise 7 months ago
A scare tactic is being used by politicans and news reporters that seniors may not receive their earned social security payments in August and military personnel also may not be paid.
It is never suggested by any politican,including the president, that they nor their staff will not be paid either. This includes all federal government agencies and their employees.
Congress enacts rules that exempt themselves from what they can do to us.
u812joe 7 months ago
Debt is a blessing when it isn't supporting a Ponzi scheme, which the Congress allowed to form in its fawning over the "free market." Wall Street is bankrupt, not the U.S. Treasury. The RMBS market is about to collapse.
How many trillions of Treasury's obligations are supporting this, Wall Street's Ponzi Scheme? Cancel it!
Glass-Steagall NOW.
MrTGolden 7 months ago
Senator Hatch, some Democrats are serious about our nation's bankruptcy. See House bills HR 1489 and HR 2451 reinstating Glass-Steagall. Congress MUST exercise its Article I Section 8 power NOW.
Per the BBA: as a Democrat, I SUPPORT it! Why? Because it will HASTEN the creation of the Bank of the United States modeled on Alexander Hamilton's conceptions. And that, sir, is why the BBA will remain dead in the water until Glass-Steagal is restored. A bankrupt Wall St. must be made to heal.
MrTGolden 7 months ago
Wake up and don't be selfish! The rich need to pay their fair share of taxes as well!
THAT'S the only way to balance the budget!!
Kilia40 7 months ago
@Kilia40 The rich already pay their fair share. Fair would be everyone paying the same flat rate.
anaptownguy 7 months ago