My question is: Why the guy who is attacking do not use his left hand to protect himself while attacking. In my style we do use both hands always. We never keep our hand in our pokets especialy when attacking.
This is a demonstration. The attacker was simulating someone grabbing your lapel. If this were a real scenerio it would not be clean, prepared, or neat. Realize that this is for demonstration of a technique and not a demonstration of fighting ability. If you would like to see that we have an open door policy.
@kookdebrou It is very simple, because in the reality people do not attack systematically on guard. Everything people do not practise necessarily a martial art or a combat sport. In the street battle and the Dojo there is a whole world. Guard in the spirit "adaptation" is a principle of the bujinkan. Of the courage for you in your way.
That is BEAST!!! Its fantastic to see some Bujinkan fellows train hardcore, rough style. I'm from the Buj as well (just a 7th kyu though), but I'm aware that lots of times the realism is unfortunately left out of our training. This video is proof that that's not the case everywhere! That strike sounded like it stung like crap! Good application. Also, judging by your comments, you seem to have a very good knowledge of how fighting really works - in sparring, etc. Impressive. Gambatte!
Thanks for the kind words. We are able to train harder because we are all very much like family in our dojo. We all care for each other so much that we all want the other to become a better warrior and a better person.
7th kyu is never too early to start training a little harder! Be careful and find an uke you trust. There are things in the training that most in the Bujinkan miss because they are too busy trying to be Hatsumi sensei and develop "wet noodle taijutsu"!
Most importantly keep training! Find a teacher you respect and who still teaches the ways of Takamatsu sensei as well as the philosophy and guidence of Hatsumi sensei.
@ninpo4life Don't just train harder. Start each technique slow and easy to learn the details of timing, distance, balance and body dynamics. Then, as you become accustomed to and more proficient with each technique wratched up the intensity until you can handle hard training. If you just jump into hard training you won't develope the sensitivity to perform your ukemi (receiving the attack, not just rolling) well enough to avoid injury.
We start our 10th Kyu (white belts) off very easy and slowly. At 9th kyu we begin to wratchet up the intensity. By 8th kyu they will be comfortable training as hard as they can safely.
@Budobuyu That's good, too many are stuck practicing at slow speeds, However, picking up the pace is not based on a belt. No matter what belt or level you train at you will be exposed to new concepts and techniques and each time the student should go thru the same process. It's more a matter of how the mind and body learn and improve. Keep up the good work!
Oh, sorry. Haha. It comes up more often than not, but not in the way that it's demonstrated in the video. It's usually comes up at the end of a technique in order to destroy his arm.
It is hard to "find" technique while sparring. Many times you will lead from a strike into a close distance and realize that you have access to a hand or arm. If you look for a technique to do chances are all you'll find is a swift punch in the teeth.
It's better to be well acquainted with many forms of locks and strikes so that when the time comes they'll present themselves amidst the chaos.
i liked the video, Its not just about the slap, look at the timing and foot work, his timing is perfect, he angles off ichimonji, and is kihon the whole time. NICE JOB. This is a good example of how a ura gyaku would look when attacked at speed.
The slap was a normal erevy day atemi, metsubushi is aiked at the point were the nose meets the eyes, it bloody well stuns you, have been tapped with it a few times. The technique looked like a kote-mawashi, if anything ushiro-kote-mawashi but kote-mawashi. I guess different arts have different names for techniques but the metsubushi thing is standard in all japanese martial arts. It's a good technique, I like it but not the easiest to get into, it has to present itself to be caught.
Not sure why this is titled 'real gyaku'. The slap does not guarantee you taking uke's balance. Please see Shiraishi Sensei for work with this. Your understanding of kuzushi needs some understanding. You take the uke's balance with the first move but then you move him back through where his structure is strong. Please study this more.
You are welcome to come to our Dojo to see how much of anything we "understand".
My instructor is a personal student of Hatsumi Soke. He has trained in Japan year after year with Shiraishi, Nagato, Noguchi and Ishizuka.
The reason this is labeled a *real* Gyaku is because it's not all theory as 99% of your comment is. We're actually training to do this full speed with intention.
Please post a video of yourself or if you're in Japan ask my teacher.
Well I was offering constructive criticism but you 'invite' me to your dojo. Instead of exploring what I am saying you go on the defensive. So my comment if theory. Its a shame you don't take your ego out of your statement. You have to understand the theory before you have any hope of making it work. You cant possibly understand taijutsu with that attitude.
Ha, no defense necessary. You comment "constructively" as if you're someone whom anyone needs advice from. You have no videos or website.
Once again my teacher is a personal student of Hatsumi sensei and has been awarded the Bujinkan medal as well as being an *extremely* close and personal friend with Bud Malmstrom.
My problem is that you seem to think theory comes before the ability to defend yourself and others. This is why so many in the Bujinkan can't fight their way out of a paper bag.
We follow the traditions of Takamatsu sensei under the guidance of Hatsumi sensei.
I invited you to our Dojo to train and see how we train as well as offer any criticism you may, but it seems you're just another keyboard warrior with no guts.
"...He called Takamatsu an "old has-been". Takamatsu arranged a television interview and said that he saw the Karate master's comments as a challenge, which he wished to accept. He gave the Karate master three days to publicly retract his statement. If he refused, Takamatsu intended to fight him and kill him with his hands tied behind his back. Within the three days the Karate master retracted his statement."
Hon gyaku is the mother of omote-gyaku and ura-gyuaku. This is what Michale Pierce shihan said that Noguchi sensei told him in training in japan. So Hon-gyaku is the mother of the other 2, and come to think about it, there is always the same motion in omote gyaku in uragyaku in take-ori.. so.. :-)
Let's all keep going! I'm trying to figure out what it is we do! hehehee.
Looked more like hon gyaku than ura gyaku or something in between. I can't imagine what you had to do to get him to be the uke. Why didn't you just take him down with ura gyaku?
It's a Ura Gyaku henka. Really between a Hon and Ura.
To get him to be the uke? Ask. Haha. It's good training.
Didn't take him down with it because he wanted control and no opening for ukemi out. Plus having to stand up on one leg while someone applies a gyaku is alot of pain. More so than just taking someone down.
Naah, but it gives you momentum and you unbalance the attacker. It's kinda frustrating for the "macho man bully" to be slaped, blown, spitted in the face, shouted, etc. You gotta think cool to be deadly... and if you are deadly, most of the times, you are cool.
That might be one of the reasons the poster said this was Henka. I am sure he could have also just passed through Sho-shin to get it started (the Hon-gyak-to-the UraGyak) as well :)
Haha, I remember when I first learned this technique, I thought it was the funniest thing ever... Until it was my turn to be the attacker :). Then you realise just how much trouble you're in if you get slapped by someone who trains in Bujinkan!
My question is: Why the guy who is attacking do not use his left hand to protect himself while attacking. In my style we do use both hands always. We never keep our hand in our pokets especialy when attacking.
kookdebrou 8 months ago
@kookdebrou
This is a demonstration. The attacker was simulating someone grabbing your lapel. If this were a real scenerio it would not be clean, prepared, or neat. Realize that this is for demonstration of a technique and not a demonstration of fighting ability. If you would like to see that we have an open door policy.
Budobuyu 8 months ago
@kookdebrou It is very simple, because in the reality people do not attack systematically on guard. Everything people do not practise necessarily a martial art or a combat sport. In the street battle and the Dojo there is a whole world. Guard in the spirit "adaptation" is a principle of the bujinkan. Of the courage for you in your way.
maitrerenard77 3 months ago
The Slap is sound beutiful . Is isnt as much painful but it often Confused emenys :D
Soapbubbleful 9 months ago
Hate being called by Sensei so he can demonstrate the technique.
IT SUCKS I TELL YOU
jmek08 1 year ago
Nice move!!!
DethMetalNinja1 1 year ago
That is BEAST!!! Its fantastic to see some Bujinkan fellows train hardcore, rough style. I'm from the Buj as well (just a 7th kyu though), but I'm aware that lots of times the realism is unfortunately left out of our training. This video is proof that that's not the case everywhere! That strike sounded like it stung like crap! Good application. Also, judging by your comments, you seem to have a very good knowledge of how fighting really works - in sparring, etc. Impressive. Gambatte!
ninpo4life 1 year ago 2
@ninpo4life
Thanks for the kind words. We are able to train harder because we are all very much like family in our dojo. We all care for each other so much that we all want the other to become a better warrior and a better person.
7th kyu is never too early to start training a little harder! Be careful and find an uke you trust. There are things in the training that most in the Bujinkan miss because they are too busy trying to be Hatsumi sensei and develop "wet noodle taijutsu"!
Budobuyu 1 year ago
@ninpo4life
Most importantly keep training! Find a teacher you respect and who still teaches the ways of Takamatsu sensei as well as the philosophy and guidence of Hatsumi sensei.
Budobuyu 1 year ago
@ninpo4life Don't just train harder. Start each technique slow and easy to learn the details of timing, distance, balance and body dynamics. Then, as you become accustomed to and more proficient with each technique wratched up the intensity until you can handle hard training. If you just jump into hard training you won't develope the sensitivity to perform your ukemi (receiving the attack, not just rolling) well enough to avoid injury.
apryor2006 11 months ago
@apryor2006
We start our 10th Kyu (white belts) off very easy and slowly. At 9th kyu we begin to wratchet up the intensity. By 8th kyu they will be comfortable training as hard as they can safely.
Budobuyu 11 months ago
@Budobuyu That's good, too many are stuck practicing at slow speeds, However, picking up the pace is not based on a belt. No matter what belt or level you train at you will be exposed to new concepts and techniques and each time the student should go thru the same process. It's more a matter of how the mind and body learn and improve. Keep up the good work!
apryor2006 11 months ago
@Budobuyu,
I think I've fomented a misunderstanding. By find, I meant, does that wristlock come up very often in live sparring?
Godsmasher22 1 year ago
@Godsmasher22
Oh, sorry. Haha. It comes up more often than not, but not in the way that it's demonstrated in the video. It's usually comes up at the end of a technique in order to destroy his arm.
Budobuyu 1 year ago
@Godsmasher22
It is hard to "find" technique while sparring. Many times you will lead from a strike into a close distance and realize that you have access to a hand or arm. If you look for a technique to do chances are all you'll find is a swift punch in the teeth.
It's better to be well acquainted with many forms of locks and strikes so that when the time comes they'll present themselves amidst the chaos.
Budobuyu 1 year ago
@Budobuyu Probably the best comment of all which summarizes what fighting is really about.
Fitz972 1 year ago
Good pop and catch...
kamiyamashinobisha 1 year ago
dont think the reciever expected such a heavy slap :D cant remember the proper term for attacker think its kyo
gripwing 2 years ago
i liked the video, Its not just about the slap, look at the timing and foot work, his timing is perfect, he angles off ichimonji, and is kihon the whole time. NICE JOB. This is a good example of how a ura gyaku would look when attacked at speed.
petecfla 2 years ago
ouch you can tell by his face that didnt feel good lol
shadowwarriorsociety 2 years ago
The slap was a normal erevy day atemi, metsubushi is aiked at the point were the nose meets the eyes, it bloody well stuns you, have been tapped with it a few times. The technique looked like a kote-mawashi, if anything ushiro-kote-mawashi but kote-mawashi. I guess different arts have different names for techniques but the metsubushi thing is standard in all japanese martial arts. It's a good technique, I like it but not the easiest to get into, it has to present itself to be caught.
aikifan77 2 years ago
A dude in my dojo got good treatment alright. Broken ribs :)
C00LTUBE 2 years ago
the slap is a metsubush...he could have poked his eyes or anything...the real thing is the wrist snap that is now available.
LordKaseem 2 years ago
Not sure why this is titled 'real gyaku'. The slap does not guarantee you taking uke's balance. Please see Shiraishi Sensei for work with this. Your understanding of kuzushi needs some understanding. You take the uke's balance with the first move but then you move him back through where his structure is strong. Please study this more.
insectillian 2 years ago
You are welcome to come to our Dojo to see how much of anything we "understand".
My instructor is a personal student of Hatsumi Soke. He has trained in Japan year after year with Shiraishi, Nagato, Noguchi and Ishizuka.
The reason this is labeled a *real* Gyaku is because it's not all theory as 99% of your comment is. We're actually training to do this full speed with intention.
Please post a video of yourself or if you're in Japan ask my teacher.
-H.
Budobuyu 2 years ago
Well I was offering constructive criticism but you 'invite' me to your dojo. Instead of exploring what I am saying you go on the defensive. So my comment if theory. Its a shame you don't take your ego out of your statement. You have to understand the theory before you have any hope of making it work. You cant possibly understand taijutsu with that attitude.
insectillian 2 years ago
Ha, no defense necessary. You comment "constructively" as if you're someone whom anyone needs advice from. You have no videos or website.
Once again my teacher is a personal student of Hatsumi sensei and has been awarded the Bujinkan medal as well as being an *extremely* close and personal friend with Bud Malmstrom.
My problem is that you seem to think theory comes before the ability to defend yourself and others. This is why so many in the Bujinkan can't fight their way out of a paper bag.
Budobuyu 2 years ago
We follow the traditions of Takamatsu sensei under the guidance of Hatsumi sensei.
I invited you to our Dojo to train and see how we train as well as offer any criticism you may, but it seems you're just another keyboard warrior with no guts.
Budobuyu 2 years ago
Also, concerning "ego" :
"...He called Takamatsu an "old has-been". Takamatsu arranged a television interview and said that he saw the Karate master's comments as a challenge, which he wished to accept. He gave the Karate master three days to publicly retract his statement. If he refused, Takamatsu intended to fight him and kill him with his hands tied behind his back. Within the three days the Karate master retracted his statement."
Budobuyu 2 years ago
Hon gyaku is the mother of omote-gyaku and ura-gyuaku. This is what Michale Pierce shihan said that Noguchi sensei told him in training in japan. So Hon-gyaku is the mother of the other 2, and come to think about it, there is always the same motion in omote gyaku in uragyaku in take-ori.. so.. :-)
Let's all keep going! I'm trying to figure out what it is we do! hehehee.
herasmito 3 years ago
Looked more like hon gyaku than ura gyaku or something in between. I can't imagine what you had to do to get him to be the uke. Why didn't you just take him down with ura gyaku?
NinpoTaijutsuShinobi 3 years ago
It's a Ura Gyaku henka. Really between a Hon and Ura.
To get him to be the uke? Ask. Haha. It's good training.
Didn't take him down with it because he wanted control and no opening for ukemi out. Plus having to stand up on one leg while someone applies a gyaku is alot of pain. More so than just taking someone down.
Budobuyu 3 years ago
the problem with doing real techniques in ninjutsu is finding a volunteer :D
sure the blackbelts get tough treatment, but it is still very mild to prevent damage, imagine if he'd put more power on that armbar :D
haters of ninjutsu be damned
ImmortalMojo 3 years ago 8
@ImmortalMojo better is said haters of bujinkan be damned
rondendik 1 year ago
did he REALLY have to slap the crap outta my mans there
MarcMorisseau 4 years ago
Naah, but it gives you momentum and you unbalance the attacker. It's kinda frustrating for the "macho man bully" to be slaped, blown, spitted in the face, shouted, etc. You gotta think cool to be deadly... and if you are deadly, most of the times, you are cool.
HibanaDaisuke 3 years ago
That might be one of the reasons the poster said this was Henka. I am sure he could have also just passed through Sho-shin to get it started (the Hon-gyak-to-the UraGyak) as well :)
RekLawXeRo 2 years ago
This is true. Once slapped and captured there's really no reason to just go breaking your Uke's wrist.
;)
Budobuyu 2 years ago
Haha, I remember when I first learned this technique, I thought it was the funniest thing ever... Until it was my turn to be the attacker :). Then you realise just how much trouble you're in if you get slapped by someone who trains in Bujinkan!
DavidPartay 5 years ago 2
That was ura, to the inside. Omote gyaku goes to the outside.
spec01 5 years ago
My question is: which gyaku, hon or ura? It wasn't clear to me, but it was still nice.
EvilWays316 5 years ago
A bit of both really. It was more hon than ura, but it definitely had some ura in it in the sense that he was trying to expose the attacker's leg.
Budobuyu 5 years ago
damn dude got "BITCH SLAPPED" ROFLMAO
maceioninjutsu 3 years ago
Yes, it was a slap. Easier than it could be, but still a hard slap. Hopefully to distract him long enough to forget about his wrist.
Budobuyu 5 years ago
was that a slap
gary45768423 5 years ago