Confederate Principles

[MrRsnyder717]

@TheEvilmunkie Think of Mexicans. Mexico is a stupid, backwards country and its inhabitants are overly macho losers who cant read and write, and they are a weak nation. Same with the South and Southerners. Mexico and the South was built on an economic system of plantations, one rich landowner and a shitload of dumb peasants.

[MrRsnyder717]

@TheEvilmunkie The only revisionist history is the one being told by confederate sympathizers, who feel they have some sort of nugget of hidden truth and that the history books have lied and blah blah blah. Every pro-confederate I've spoken with is a moron and knows little of what actually happened. Ironically, they are the ones brainwashed-- not the rest of the country whom they accuse.

[MrRsnyder717]

@TheEvilmunkie No, its not an interpretation. Read more of Lincoln's quotes before he was president, when he gave speeches as head of the Whig Party. He says straight up that "the negros' mental faculties are just as efficient as ours." Point being, Lincoln despised slavery. As president, sure, he was more concerned with preserving the uniion. Still, he was right, and the South was wrong-- morally, economically, politically, and otherwise.

[MrRsnyder717]

@TheEvilmunkie WHAT? You're clueless. Lincoln was head of the Whig Party for years, which adamently opposed slavery. Lincoln wrote treatises against slavery, and spoke against it publically, often. Sure, once president, his desire to preserve the union outweighed his interest in abolishiing slavery. So what. He was still very anti-slavery, read a book about Lincoln's life.

[Valiant114]

And the secondary argument that "It's ok cause it happened in other states" just doesn't wash. If you sad sacks had your way. you'd have your own country where slavery would still exist, if not in name than in function, and only wealthy landowners could vote. Sell your excuses to your cousin.

[Valiant114]

Ok, let's do some educating; The PRIMARY crop of the agrarian southern states (read: ALL) was COTTON, traded to Great Britain. Cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. The number of slaves rose in concert with the increase in cotton production, increasing from around 700,000 in 1790 to around 3.2 million in 1850.[12] By 1860, the southern states were providing two-thirds of the world’s supply of cotton, and up to eighty percent of the British market.

[EdM021]

0:27 "Ah hates th' Declaration of Independence too." HAHAHAHAHA if there were no independent Union there would certainly NOT have been a Confederacy! Just a British Dominion. Maybe.

[BuBzIeNYNY]

when union soldigers captured jefferson he was wearing a dress. the yakee nation prevails, theris 3,000,000 yankees ready to fight, i rase one new yankee soldiger a year, we'll never stop reclaming what is ours

[theboyintheredshirt]

Anyone else see the irony that Jefferson's portrait is shown on the line "I hates the Declaration of Independence too." ? Not to mention it's a line that seems to be so much against the idea of individual freedom and state's rights.

[Valiant114]

With all due respect, you are both right, and both wrong. Seccesion in itself was not prohibited by the Constitution, and during the war Pres. Lincoln abused it widely. If the Confederates had never fired upon Sumter, he would have never been given cause for war. That being said, the south could read a map, and knew they would eventually become a minority against the north and west. They secceded because they knew that their way of life, BASED ON A SLAVE ECONOMY, was coming to an END.

[meetman57]

Mr. Rsnyder Sir, I have been noticing your comments on this web page and would just like to add that you are leaving a LOT of info out when you make your statements. A kind of "Spoon - fed" verson of history if you will. I dont think that you or anyone else for that matter can tell o0f a single law that the Southern States are guilty of breaking that our for-fathers of the Union was NOT guilty of breaking.

[walkerharoldjr]

TREASON!!!! YOU WHO POSTED THIS AND THAT SANG THIS SONG SHOULD DIE!!!

[MrRsnyder717]

Complete BS. Sure, the South wanted "States Rights" AKA the right to maintain and promote plantation slavery-- a horribly corrupt, parasitic, and humanely degrading economic system that deserved nothing less than to be obliterated. The North was right-- morally, economically, and otherwise. Thank God for Lincoln.

[paintballer1231]

@MrRsnyder717 There wasnt much of a difference between slavery and what was happening in the factories up North but yes I agree slavery was bad and should have been abolished after the rev war but its like oil today they couldnt just get rid of it. Slavery was dying near the start of the Civil War and most Confederates especially confederate soldiers opposed slavery because it left them without jobs. The North didnt want the blacks either. the south was willing to compromise lincoln would not

[MrRsnyder717]

@paintballer1231 You are right that working conditions in the north were abusive. But, its nothing compared to slavery. Workers in the north still had mobility in their work, and shortly before the civil war-- many of them were forming unions. Slavery was not dying. The Supreme Court had just ruled slavery legal everywhere via Dred Scott. The very fist article in the Confederate Constitution was to keep/maintain slavery. All the talk that the South was about to abolish it-- not true.

[paintballer1231]

@MrRsnyder717 I never said the South was going to abolish it. I'm saying most southerners didn't own slaves. It was the aristocrats and rich plantation owners that did. The working conditions in the North weren't that much better than Slavery. Another thing, you make it seem like the North was all right and the south was completely wrong. Im a reenactor with Southern Heritage but live in the North and the South was right on most of their principles besides slavery.

[MrRsnyder717]

@paintballer1231 Workers were unionizing. In the South-- that was impossible because humans were legally considered "chatte." I contend the South was wrong about everything. They argue that it was not about slavery, it was about states rights and blah blah. BS. Not true at all. Yeah-- states rights to maintain their awful backwards system of plantation slavery, that made the economy of the South look just like Mexico and the third world. What was the South right about besides slavery?

[paintballer1231]

@MrRsnyder717 Yes it was ruining the economy that's why so many opposed it in the South. idk who is arguing it was states rights but that is a small reason. The south was right in their decision to secede. Most of the Taxes the Union was receiving was from the south they were over taxed and the Union wasn't allowing the Laws of the Constitution developed by the founding fathers to be preserved. They seceded from a terrible government just like the Patriots of old. look into the history more

[MrRsnyder717]

@paintballer1231 That's not true in the slightest. Probably lies from the Southern Heritage. Vast majority of taxes came from the Northt-- tariffs from NY. North was more populated and generating more taxes/revenue, and paid for the South's BS. The South had no right to secede. They were wrong, morally and economically. Not at all like the Founders. They deserved invasion and defeat. The economic system of plantation slavery is parasitic and needed to be wiped out.

[paintballer1231]

@MrRsnyder717 Ok well you continue to believe your fallacies while the rest of the country knows the truth. You cant look back into history and point fingers at people and say who is right and who is wrong. The people today are much different than the people were back then. They grew up believing what was tought (spelling) to them. If the south had no right to secede than neither did West Virginia in seceding from Virginia in which Lincoln allowed. Its a contradiction

[MrRsnyder717]

@paintballer1231 West Vriginia was mostly a territory, part of it joined from Virginia. That's a huge difference from a national rebellion. I'm not a cultural relativist. Sharia law is wrong and stupid-- I dont care if millions support it. The South was wrong and stupid in every way-- I don't care if hundreds of thousands supported it. The BS revisionist history you're getting from Heritgae is totally that-- BS. The regime in the South needed to be wiped out. Lincoln was awesome,

[paintballer1231]

@MrRsnyder717 LMAO! you sound like someone learning about the Civil War in the public school system and that's where your getting these ideas.

[MrRsnyder717]

@paintballer1231 No, the popular trend in the education system is to justify the South. Occassionally, you get these morons from the South who think they are being novel by saying "yeah man, it was nothern aggression and it was the north forcing their taxes blah blah blah." Completely untrue. However, its true the South wanted free trade-- they wanted a NAFTA style economy-- which again, is frickin horrible and stupid.

[paintballer1231]

@paintballer1231 Yes slavery was dying. The final, decadent phase of slavery was reached when the land upon which the cash crops were grown had become exhausted, the nutrients in the soil needed to produce large harvests were depleted. When that happened, the slave regime typically became more relaxed and less labor-intensive. Plantation owners turned to growing grain crops like: wheat, barley, corn, and vegetables. They needed fewer slaves because these crops required less labor. Thank You.

[blowupstuffguy88]

its not racism if you deserve it i like black people and white people latino people and any asian people but i hate god damn niggers chinks beaners

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV I was waiting for an honest retort, that never came. You misstated facts and ignored reason. Hence my assessment. Then continue to expose your truthful notions towards "people of the South" camouflaged amongst rather weak denials. As for my part, It's been rather a relief to find justification towards some of my feelings towards yankees. Thank you.

[oculist2020]

You have named yourself clearly for any to see.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Pffft.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Ok, your an idiot. this is over.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Uhhh... Hello in there? Is any body home? Our government has no money of its own. A private banking institution called the Federal Reserve prints up bucks. Which it loans to the government at interest,which is then in turn paid back to the Fed via collected taxes. Payment of the Federal debt is squarely on the shoulders of tax payers. What don't you believe when you hear our elected officials complaining, when trying to get reelected, that we are passing to much debt to our children?

[oculist2020]

Yes, great job Jeffersonian Republic. These flags do call us.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV In conclusion, before you say we are not slaves, I offer you this single question, what is it when our children are born into debt that they did not obligate themselves to and are compelled to pay it off? And one more. What are YOU when you accept that?

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV *expose their true motivations

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV (from cont. 2) the degree of which people participate in slavery today, and yet curse the South for an ancillary circumstance, their true motivations, whether they outwardly acknowledge or are even aware of. It has been my effort to point out that people are deeply involved in an ongoing status quoit that is equally as "evil" as the situation you point your finger at and invite the judgment of God upon. That is NOT an act of love or enlightenment.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV (from cont1) PEOPLE that are driven to produce with coercions of every type known to ill masters of old are employed for the same reasons in order that you may wear Nikes, clothe yourself in Cathy Lee Gifford products. The discussion is one of freedom, the fight for it, the continuing love of a people for that struggle and that heritage. The struggle for freedom period, and from slavery is current and most valid. (cont 2)

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Look, if you can't pick it up, I'll come out and say it. I don't like the idea of slavery at any time then or now. It is a condition in which we as Americans participate. If you are not prepared to accept the nature of our current economy and our place in it, then you will at least be aware suborn slavery around the world. Most of the items your residence are produced by slave labor. (cont 1)

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Was it not your statement that an economy based on slavery was not worth defending. Implying economies where the defining principles in whether a nation or its cause is worthy. Did you not state that God had passed judgment on a people as a result of their economy. What do you mean you don't know where hate comes into play? Extolling the judgment of God on such a superficial level as finance says volumes for the degree of your disdain.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV The subject is freedom, rights, the continuing struggle, the proud past of a people who stood as a people for Liberty, for the fourth time at that point. These issues seem to elude you as YOUR effort is expended on hate.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV (from cont)The economy we take part in is as unjust as that which you "know was evil". The clothes you buy being made by slave labor today would not seem to bother you. You have focused your energies to the point you believe something you despise is in the past, and that a people you don't know, mysteries to you, are the sole progenitors of that.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Was slavery more evil than rounding up millions of native Americans, putting them in what amounted to be concentration camps for all the same purposes Hitler had? How about the bombing of Dresden in WWII where the military admitted there were no targets of military interest? This country has been as guilty as any other of human rights violations as any in history. (cont)

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV The economy and or slavery is not what the South was defending. It seems nearly impossible for outsiders to understand.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV In the end your position is one of fear and vanity. You would ask, in response to taxation, "who would pay for the roads"? Well, the people who wanted roads bad enough to take the money out of their own pockets, that's who. What people have done is resign individual responsibility in favor of personal convenience. Abandoned rights in favor of convenience, privilege. Defenses of the status quoit consisting of questions, not solutions. That is slavish and fearful behavior.

[oculist2020]

As a result of the outcome of the war for Southern independence, the north got what it wanted. We were all enslaved economically. Our God given and Constitutionally assured rights as individuals were diminished in favor of voluntary servitude. Involuntary servitude was abolished for the few in favor of voluntary servitude of all. Go on, defend how the government can demand all your money that you worked for. How it can regulate your private life. How it can take your property at will.

[oculist2020]

(from cont) Secondly, Your judgment on the South invites, that God passed judgment on the South because its economic foundation was evil is laughable. Exactly where would you believe the judgment of God would rest in the current economic slavery scheme, which is what the north was fighting for and prevails to this day.

[oculist2020]

@DarkstarNV Firstly Sir, The framers of the Constitution made a concession. Realizing that in order to protect freedom, individual rights, that there must be a superior to individuals, that is some individuals who seek to demean the rights of others. Someone to enforce Liberty. Hence States rights. Otherwise there would necessarily be anarchy. Would you trust Joe Shmoe to be respectful of your rights? There had to be an enforcer. States rights are all about the Liberty of individuals. (cont)

[prohunter105]

hey lets say when the yankes make a time machine will still it and cary some m-16 and some humveees and lets hit bull run one more time see if we lose this time

[SuperCountrysinger1]

I wish the south would have won too :(

[SuperCountrysinger1]

GREAT JOB.... GREAT JOB

[dipredneck333]

great song i wish the south would of won!!

[oculist2020]

@dipredneck333 The trick is, in ways the South did win, resoundingly. Firstly, above all else, the South stood for Liberty, regardless of outcome that effort is NEVER in vain. Only the most fearful, ignorant and spiteful rascals would question the blood of the patriots of Liberty. The truth is obvious to any with half eyesight to see. Had the the soldiers of 1776 been asked on which side would they have stood in the war of 1861-65, they would have been utterly astounded that there could be doubt

[oculist2020]

@oculist2020 I believe it is that way because Americans today, by and large, don't understand what this country started out to be, and the fact that it has changed drastically from its foundational roots. There are few in the world more ignorant of American history than Americans. Including college graduates. Let me ask you, what is freedom? What are your rights? Why do you have them?

[doversniper]

the civil war is the greatest lie ever told, slavery was not the issue, it was states rights and personal freedoms, and most of all 47 percent tax against anything bought. the south was being taxed to the point that the poor farmer whom never saw a slave on his place was starving. the south fought to prevent the invasion of the murderous army of lincolns hate filled troops.

[wolfsadfree]

how dare you bring military into this please never do it again because with them currently they are fighting for what few rights we have left the only time you bring them into it is when we go to war against the Feds otherwise dont cross that line

[cary123]

I have no issue with states succeeding. As a leninist, all people have the right to self-determination.

[686204]

@cary123 As a Leninist all people have the right to self-determination. Sounds great until you see who you idealize. Too bad that Ideology did not apply to those countries taken over by the Communists after the 2nd World War. Would you mind telling me what is meant by self-determination?

[cary123]

@686204 Oh you mean those degenerate workers states? Self-determination means that all groups of people may succeed from there mother country to form one of there own.

[686204]

@cary123 So just how small can you go? State secedes from Country to form their own Country. So what happens if one city in that state decides to seceded from the state because they are not happy with the way the State is running things can they become a country? Do you really believe you can find utopia by seceding every time you disagree with a politician who runs a country. A politician is a politician whether he runs a state or a Country they will never please everyone. Cont

[cary123]

@686204 Utopia is by its very definition, impossible. If citys want to fuck themselfs over, they have every right to.

[686204]

@cary123 And what about the people that don't agree with the city and don't want to secede but want to remain within the State and or the Country are they just suppose to accept it? You said it man Utopia by its very definition is impossible. Seceding every time you disagree with a politician is ludicrous. That's what you have elections for to get rid of the politician or government you don't agree with. Our problem is not government it's Corporate America and their lobbyists!

[cary123]

@686204 Majority rule, Concessness on anything is impossible on such a large level.

[686204]

@cary123 It has always been my view that no form of government is perfect. In fact of the 3 most highly visible Capitalism is the best of 3 evils. The other two being socialism and Communism. The idea behind socialism and Communism sounds great a society were the means of production are commonly owned. However we just have to look at the Soviet Union to see that it failed and to all sense and purpose it has failed in China. They are more Capitalistically orientated now than the US. Cont

[686204]

@cary123 Of Course if you are a Communist run country you don't have to worry about it you just shoot the guy that doesn't agree with what you are doing. I personally don't think you know what Lenin and Communism is or was all about. As for secession every time you disagree with a politician that is almost laughable in fact it is laughable!

[cary123]

@686204 Communism is a stateless classless society were the means of production are commonly owned. If you want to argue about some of the war crimes that took place under leninist proletarian dictatorships, thats fine. Lenin did some harm, but did tons of good.

[686204]

@cary123 The remaining countries under Communist rule are forced on the people and the people have absolutely no say in what their government does ie North Korea and Cuba. They both live in poverty or near poverty conditions except for those that rule the country if you call that sharing no thanks!

[cary123]

@686204 North Korea can claim to be a SOCIALIST STATE all they want, doesn't make them one. North Korea also claims to be a "Democratic People's Republic".

Cuba is a democracy, the president is elected and subject to recall votes by the Nation Assembly, the National Assembly is elected by Local Assemblys that are directly elected by the people. Candidates cannot be officially candidates of any party, including the communist party. Cuba has a poverty level of less then 2%.

[686204]

@cary123 As I said the ideology of Communism sounds great but it usually turns out like north Korea and the former Soviet Union just kill anyone that does not agree with what the government is doing. Castro recently admitted that Socialism was not working in his country wonder why. Because they are no long subsidized by the former soviet Union. The Government controls 90% of the jobs and they have neighborhood watch committees who monitor individuals political behavior step out of line no job.

[cary123]

@686204 If you look ibnto research about what he said, you would find he was being sarcasric.

[686204]

@cary123 Cuba is grudgely slowly turning toward more capitalistic measures to improve its economy although it won't admit it. The Country has one official party the Communist party and it appointed Raul Castro as Fidel's replacement.Was there an election? Although there are other political party's in the country political campaigning during an election is not allowed wonder why. No matter what you say most people live slightly above 3rd world standards of living I have been there I have seen it

[cary123]

@686204 Nope, there moving from state socialism to direct socialism and direct workers control. Nope, sense the constitutional amendment in 1992, all party's are allowed but the Communist Party is given a symbolic role of a vangard. No Raul was the first vice president under Fidel, he was not appointed, but the line of succession made him president. Yah, no political campaigning is allowed,but that includes the communist party. Most people are slightly above the poverty line despite the embarg

[686204]

@cary123 Lol a man who believes in fair tales. You think they are living such a great life in Cuba maybe you sould consider moving there. Tell me for my own information what is the difference between state socialism and direct socialism? For your information Cuba is actively pursuing foreign countries for Credit & capital. Their system is failing and has been since the early 90's when they stopped receiving asst from the SU. People are being jailed there for even mentioning the word democracy.

[cary123]

@686204 There not living a "great life" but socialism has greatly helped there quality of life. State socialism is when a state run by the workers nationalizes and controls all means production, Direct socialism is when the workers directly control the means of production via workers coops and economic councils. Yes the elimination of soviet aid greatly harmed cubas economy. What bull, if that was true, every election all the pollstation people would be under arrest.

[RunningManOnMars]

Somebody gonna' geda' wick whippin' if dae' don't get back outch' der and bea' pickin' dat cotton! Reckon I gets me some tea rights hera'

[Alexander29854]

Respect from Hellas the land who the meaning of FREEDOM was borne

"ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΑ"

[tazedbrothree]

So, how many of you believe that each State should be a separate Nation, like they did in the South 150 years ago?

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@tazedbrothree they didnt think that, thye thought that the states created the federal government, and could disband it if they wish, which then can and is 100% legal to do.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty Secession legal,not according to the 1869 decision of the Supreme Court it isn't. You tell me where in the constitution is says that secession is legal. By the way the constitution was agreed to by all states. The southern States may have thought it was but the North didn't and the South did not take it to the Supreme Court for a legal decision so how could it be judged legal?

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 The Constitution is a pact of unity between a group of independent states. Independent as in they can leave whenever they want. The founders would be astounded to see such arrogance in the nation they built, and their plans so contorted that not even they would recognize what nation they were in unless you had a welcom to the USA sticker. Why would the writers of the constitution fight a war to be free, then force their will upon others? and aftewr the civil war the US government had and

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 shouldnt have any say seeing as it broke almost every law in the constitution within the states of the Union alone, thus nullifying the agreement between the states and the federal govenment they had formed. Its by gods good grace, and the fact the we have be mislead as a people for so long has kept us docile.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty Would you like to tell me all the laws the Union broke in the Constitution? Also they may be independent states but they all agreed to form a Republic with a constitution. The constitution has to stand for something and to this date legal experts have argued the point of secession based on the Constitution some for and some against. The only ruling to-date was made by the Supreme court in 1869, it was illegal sorry.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 any state could leave right now and the feds couldnt do shit without opposition.There are to many to risk,they violated the 2nd ammendment rights of over 10,000 men in indiana to keep the state in the union.Also the feds did unwarranted search and seizures without ever returning anything,there are hundrends of examples and if you wanted the exact parts of the constitution that were violated id have to look into it more but it is undeniable that this indeed did happen, and much worse in

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty Once you start a war against the Government you still expect Constitutional laws to protect you? Come on be sensible you can't have it both ways. To win a war the resolve of the country has to be broken there is no such thing as rules of engagement just look at what happened in both world wars. look what happened in Vietnam we won all the battles but lost the war because our country became tired of war. To win a war you have to be ruthless or get beat by the enemy.

[littlewilma22]

@686204 The south didn't start the war. It was invaded and defended itself.

[686204]

@littlewilma22 Tell me who fired on Fort Sumter? Cuse whoever fired on that fort started the war.You guys just can't seem to get it in your heads you fired first. And once you start a war don't expect leniency from you enemy. There is no such thing as "Rules of engagement" when it come to war. If you think there is such a thing as chivalry when it comes to war you lose. Come to think of it the South lost right. Also I think the South invaded the North on a couple of occasions.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 the south. They used the same tatics the british used during the revolution to get information and the Army stole everything that wasnt bolted down, which is also a violation of Constitutional law seeing as nothing can be taken for government use without just compensation (Amendment 5 of the U.S constitution). Union soldiers were often ordered to take horses, and live stock to carry and feed the Army. They also forced civilians to quarter soldiers (3rd Amendment) most of these

[littlewilma22]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty In addition, the yankee soldiers burned or killed anything they couldn't use or carry. The allegations that came out of Gitmo were nothing compared to what the yankees did to Southern civilians.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@littlewilma22 I know, i think i said that a few pages back. Im not sure, i know ive told about 4,000 yankes that but they just dont get it. It happened all over the south, they did it, and didnt do shit with that war, besides cut their own throats and the throats of their southern neighbors.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 have to do with the bill of rights, which is not something to be tampered with.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 Additionally, the Confederacy was not part of the United States, it was its own nation with its own laws and Constitution. So nothing it did can be seen as illegal nor treasonous because one cannot betray a country he claims no allegiance to in the first place.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty The Confederacy was a nation on its own only in the eyes of the South. The North did not recognize it you were viewed as rebels. Also the rest of the world did not recognize it and the CSA tried hard to get the Brits and France to recognize it and failed. The perspective you take is solely that of the South it does not reflect the views of the North they viewed you has rebels and traitors thus a war was started when SC fired on a Union fort. You started it and you lost it.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty There was an ave. open to the South to prove that secession was legal by taking it to the Supreme Court they chose to ignore it and decided to secede on their own interpretation of the Constitution. It was wrong as was pointed out in the 1869 Supreme Court decision which viewed it as illegal. I might also point out that the Revolutionary army treated those loyal to the British pretty harshly so you see it goes both ways in a war always has.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 Lincoln imprisoned thousands of U.S citizens for just speaking out against the war, and him. They shut down newspapers and banned people from the country.Theres no way to prove secession is illegal because once you seceed, you are an Independent nation and whatever government you were once a part of has absolutely nothing to do with how your new one will be ran. To make secession illegal the seceeding government would have to agree it was illegal.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty There was a written constitution involved that all states agreed to abide by and South Carolina used it to justify its secession from the Union. Look it up. Based on their interpretation of the Constitution it was legal. Based on the North's it wasn't, approaching the Supreme Court would have resolved it. The question is would the decision have prevented a war my opinion most likely not. But if the South had won they had the legal backing they needed to justify their cause

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty With that justification they quite possibly could have obtained Britain's and France's backing. All speculation yes but who knows at least you could go around saying that legally the North was wrong and justify all the wrong doing you claim it did to the south. Would have had my sympathy to a certain extent.

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@686204 Look at Texas for example, Texas and the Federal government agreed that if at anytime Texas was not satisfied with the dealings of the United States government that it could leave the Union and once again become the Republic of Texas or whatever it wished to do, but we know now that if they wished to leave we would force them to stay. There have been talks of Texas secession lately and the federal government has massed troops, supplies and deployed CCMRF, and DOD soldiers in the west.

[686204]

@DixieOfDeKalbCounty Yep the Federal Government has built all those military bases in the south just to make sure you guys don't try it again. Come on get serious those bases are there because we need them in the North and South for the protection of the Country. As well an more important they provide financial and economic substance to those community's where they are located. I have never seem such a bunch of wimps when it comes to you guys and what you perceive the Feds are planning.

[KentuckyThunder1863]

beautifully said, sir. Wonderful Video.

[SamWiseGingy]

Google this:

Call for a Referendum on a Tennessee Secession Convention

Speech of Tennessee Governor Isham G. Harris

January 7, 1861

There you will find a southern governor making the case for secession and civil war.

[ncfordcountrygirl15]

CSA!!! DEO VINDICE!!!

[ncfordcountrygirl15]

the Confederate Anthem by Johnny Rebel...one of my favert songs

[8Libertine8]

There was nothing ever sacred about this country. Just a bunch of opportunistic entrepreneurs stepping on the heads of their workers to reach the freshest fruit.

[jefferyshroder]

the best video on youtube

[0oTheGhilliedGhosto0]

The civil war was not freedom's last stand. The final battle will soon begin.

[JediMindTricks183]

rednecks

[sparkywundermutt]

Now that's a five star video; great job.

[ronaldb8179]

I loved that song about hating the Yankee nation. These are great videos to browse this weekend while I try to forget this Martin Lucifer Koon Day.

[gunnertcm]

Not cool dude! Prejudice belongs to the north. The South is to be the only true land of the free. This video is not about the hate of people but bringing back states rights as stated both constitutions. Want hate move north! Want freedom move South. To get southern agendas to pass we need to use inelligents and education of the Southern people, blcak, white, native,legal hispanic, all southern people. The head of the KKK lives in Saint Joesph County, Indiana. Not the South!

[StonewallDVGM]

Amen.

[Tholt87csa]

Amen brother! Deo Vindice.

[COOLLILMEXICANAJ777]

@gunnertcm accually in whitestown no pun intended but good point

[SeSsKaG4eVa]

@gunnertcm Ummm... this song sure spews a lot of hate.. I mean, it says it plenty of time, wouldn't you agree? I would never say I hate a rebel, and I'm a Yankee for sure and pure :) So what if he lives there, it spawned in the south, and the south was the side fighting for slavery... hmm. I've had plenty of Southerners tell me about the hate Northerners get from them, but not the other way around. Please, get your facts straight before you comment. 

[DixieOfDeKalbCounty]

@SeSsKaG4eVa fighting for slavery? and you want others to get fact straight?

[DonMeaker]

@gunnertcm The South is a full partner in the Land of the Free. Before the Civil War, Canada was the destination of escaped slaves, so that the Fugitive Slave Law would not force their return to slavery. The greatest cause for abolition was the courageous performance of US soldiers of African ancestry. where they occupied an equal place in the line of battle, and an equal space in the grave if they fell.

[XConfederateSoldierX]

@gunnertcm In fact, Indiana was home of the KKK for the last 50 years.

[1AnonymousPatriot]

Go take your racism somewhere else, hate mongerer

[gunnertcm]

I have many more Linclon quotes like the ones I responded to RebelliousHutterite with. Yankees think they are great saviors of the slaves. Funny thing is they even had laws up north that made it illegal for any black man to make residence in thier states. Now, get over it Yankee. The north is not free of the blame of slavery! Confederate principles are what is needed today! The same ideas are what are being spoken about in the elections right now. I guess they realized that we were right!

[gfacekilla43]

@gunnertcm look theres this stupid bitch that goes by the name southernfriedhoney please send that bitch some history lessons about the beloved northerners i've tried til i'm sick go to hank jr's if the south woulda won song you'll see the stupid shit thanks god bless dixie

[Tholt87csa]

Yeah, shes quite the intellectual. Some people are just ignorant and will not see what's plainly told them. Oh well, you just have to feel sorry for anyone who grows up in a home like that. Deo Vindice.

[RebelliousHutterite]

The whole point of the confederate states of america was because of the threat to slave holders rights. They knew republicans at the time and Lincoln opposed slavery. Seven states declared their independence from the United States before Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated as President.

[GaleryonTheMystic]

Yes, we are familiar with history. If you do not recognize however that the fundamental differences in ideology and as to the role the federal government should play were also contributing factors, then you are ignorant. This is my video by the way.

[gunnertcm]

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave , I would do it...what I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the union." Abraham Lincoln in a letter to Horace Greely, 1862

"I will say, then, that I am not nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races" Abe Lincoln Campain speach, Sep. 18 1858. Yes the south had slaves but it was the north who imported them and hated them.

[DixielandRebel]

Well done!

The USA have always brought war and death only to get money and political power to a few of their failure leaders like Lincoln and Bush. It's time to raise on high the Stars and Bars again.

[notube2007]

Lincoln not only committed war crimes against citizens of The Confederate States, but against the citizens of The United States too! The northern people lost their rights right along with the southern people. What you end up with is the mess we have today!

[reapstreet54]

funny how much Bush and Lincoln have in common. Both are violators of the Constitution and both committed war crimes in the name of "Freedom" for others.