see not only is this scene good, but it makes sense in season 5 when ben comes back to this office cuz they treat it like we've seen it before. if they had it then we'd be like "oh! thats bens office from season 3!" but no they cut it, cuz abc makes them have a time limit :(
awww, poor Ben. This scene always makes me so sad cuz I love Ben and although he tries to make it seem like he has no emotions or that he is immune to them because he's "superior" he obviously does (although DUH, right?) hehehe...I will always LOVE Benjamin Linus.
ok. i know ben's a manipulative son of a blah.. but hearing your own daughter say "I hate your guts i wish you were dead" must be really sad .. poor ben!
although after all the bad things Ben has done, and i think he is meant to be seen as a 'bad guy', i love the way the writers have shown this completely different side to him when he is talking to Alex.
"This tumor fails in comparison to the pain i feel over how much our relationship has disintegrated."
That is so realistic for a dad to say to his daughter.
@NeedsSemicolon That wasn't Alex yelling at ben. That was smokey impersonating Alex, yelling at him and telling him to do whatever John Locke(Also being impersonated by smokey) tells him to do.
ben's actually a good guy, cuz remember when tom and the other guy held jin, bernard, and sayid at gunpoint, and ben said if u dont hear my voice in the next minute shoot them, they only shot the sand
Alex knows what love is but Ben never did i mean he was never in love like he never got a wife , he never got ingagd , he never had a girlfriend and he never kissed someone but Alex did she kissed Carl and she got a boyfriend.
If they had kept this scene, the flashback in last week's episode would've been more meaningful to the viewers, but I understand why they cut it. It doesn't really add to the plot and its omission makes other scenes more suspenseful.
wouldn't it be great to see a flashback with young Ben and even younger Alex? Imagine like Alex and Ben as a cute little family playing games and stuff! xD <3
It would be cool. But if Sayid was right and Ben was 12 in 1977, then he would have been 28 when Alex was born. :( So we probably won't see that. But maybe in a flashback? That would be cool.
Haha, and just two days ago we see Ben pushing little Alex on a swing... ^^ I'm not sure if this was your idea of "play" but if you would have just waited a few weeks... :P
I agree. This was a very good, brief insight to their characters and some good development. Perhaps at the time they felt they were giving too much away by putting this in, but I would've like to have seen it.
alex did a great job. i could never tell the possibly best actor EVER the things she said. instead of saying "i don't care what happens to you"i would have said i love you and i would give him a looooong hug!!!
Umm... okay, I see a thumb down on my comment calling Ben an ass.
Now, I like Ben, but can the dissenters tell me how he's NOT an ass when it comes to lecturing about love? I mean, how is he not an ass when it comes to dealing with his own love issues? Would anyone here say that he handled it well?
I agree. Ben while a great character, HE does not really understand what love is. Not having anyone who loves him in his early life made him possessive and made him want love so bad that he does anything in order to get it. He's selfish with love. Probably why he took Alex. Ben wanted someone who would love him. A baby can't say, "No, I don't want to be around you." The plan backfired when she grew up though.
they really should have kept this scene,it was very intense, with great acting as usual oh and they're both amazing actors especially Michael Emerson..
i agree that it humanized him too soon, but i think it was good to show their relationship more, and that yeah, she is a teenager so she would've acted that way. and yeah, she was really kool lol
I miss Alex. She was so cool. I call Ben a Lemur even though he makes the show. It wouldn't be as good without him. Wish they kept this scene. It's really good!!
Maybe they cut it because it humanized Ben too early. Either way, for two characters that are father and daughter they haven't had many scenes together.
Because he's a really, really interesting character. Even now we know his past, are you saying you don't want to know exactly what he has planned, and how much of this he has orchestrated?
Duh! Danielle has been on the island for 16 years and if you saw one of the episodes, it clearly stated she had Alex roughly 2 months after she crashed.
It's cute how she said that then but in the episode last night when John was going to blow her dad's brains out she was balling and practically crawling over her boyfreind to stop him. what a hypocritical bitch. Thanks for sharing the deleted scene it was awesome.
Abra, She's just being a typical 16 year old who's "dad" is not letting her see her boyfriend. She does love him but is acting out because she's not getting her way. Yes, she didn't want to see the man who raised her get his head blown off, who would?!?
I think that's exactly why he said that. I think he made a mistake by liking (or loving) that girl, and realizes that Alex might make the same mistake. I feel bad that Ben has to take crap like that from her, she's a bitch.
Why thanks :D They could have made it a mobisode; I think "The Envelope" was originally a deleted scene, so I don't see why this couldn't of been made into a mobisode as well. Oh well, I just hope we get more scenes like this soon :)
WOW! She is so bratty... thats why I love her... lol not really but they should have so kept this scene it would have explained why ben said in the man from tallahasee "my daughter currently hates me" because for people who didnt really look into their story that scene would have explained it... oh well I still love them... glad i got to see this scene!!!
Wow, Alex was kinda bratty there. I actually felt horrible for poor Ben...then again, he kinda deserves it. He can be so cold sometimes. AWESOME scene tho, and very well acted. :D
my heart sank for Ben when Alex said " i hate you, i wish you were dead." Look at Ben's face. he seems heartbroken. poor baby. I hate Alex!! i love you, Ben. <3
"Well, you may get your wish. I have a tumour on my spine. I need you to know, Alex - this tumour pales in comparison to the pain I feel over how much our relationship has disintegrated."
see not only is this scene good, but it makes sense in season 5 when ben comes back to this office cuz they treat it like we've seen it before. if they had it then we'd be like "oh! thats bens office from season 3!" but no they cut it, cuz abc makes them have a time limit :(
sp1194 4 months ago
Why'd you throw the man i love in a cage dad?
We've all had to say that to our dads...right....? ;)
suchacometonitsway 1 year ago 3
@suchacometonitsway Of course. Who hasn't?
Creekpaw 10 months ago
I cried
GreenElixir 1 year ago
awww, poor Ben. This scene always makes me so sad cuz I love Ben and although he tries to make it seem like he has no emotions or that he is immune to them because he's "superior" he obviously does (although DUH, right?) hehehe...I will always LOVE Benjamin Linus.
paulmccartneyfan1995 1 year ago 3
good scene but they typically didnt reveal the story like this
ricochetVendetta 1 year ago
SHE WAS FROM MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE
heymangone 1 year ago 2
@heymangone Yup :) I always remember that episode where she freaks out because she grows boobs. Lol...That episode traumatised me as a child :D
suchacometonitsway 1 year ago
Puts his glasses back on. Classic Ben.
bobanddavid90 1 year ago 8
can't believe this was deleted, this is such a beautiful scene...
FuturamaFanatic825 1 year ago 14
ok. i know ben's a manipulative son of a blah.. but hearing your own daughter say "I hate your guts i wish you were dead" must be really sad .. poor ben!
ralebp54 2 years ago 10
although after all the bad things Ben has done, and i think he is meant to be seen as a 'bad guy', i love the way the writers have shown this completely different side to him when he is talking to Alex.
"This tumor fails in comparison to the pain i feel over how much our relationship has disintegrated."
That is so realistic for a dad to say to his daughter.
shannlp1 2 years ago 9
The part where she yells at Ben is used during the judgment of the smoke monster in Dead is Dead... neat.
NeedsSemicolon 2 years ago 5
@NeedsSemicolon That wasn't Alex yelling at ben. That was smokey impersonating Alex, yelling at him and telling him to do whatever John Locke(Also being impersonated by smokey) tells him to do.
sixtysixfish 1 year ago
@sixtysixfish Alex was still alive at that point so smokey couldnt impersonate her
manueld12 1 year ago
ben's actually a good guy, cuz remember when tom and the other guy held jin, bernard, and sayid at gunpoint, and ben said if u dont hear my voice in the next minute shoot them, they only shot the sand
bboydjoe 2 years ago 3
This should have been kept.
TheLostTv 2 years ago 11
i agree.
mileythegreengirl 2 years ago
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Alex knows what love is but Ben never did i mean he was never in love like he never got a wife , he never got ingagd , he never had a girlfriend and he never kissed someone but Alex did she kissed Carl and she got a boyfriend.
thenaks99 2 years ago
You forget his little girlfriend he had when he was a kid in the Dharma.
marvinriscos 2 years ago 5
I wish I could get ingagd one day...
NintendoWarrior1 2 years ago
It would be so strange to have Ben as a father. He's so manipulative, but loving at the same time.
Saltiegal 2 years ago 19
I wish they'd kept this in. When we see this office again in season 5, we'd have a stronger connection to it.
scuffpuppy 2 years ago 17
"this tumor fails in commparison to the pain i feel over how much our relasionship has desintegrated"
aww!!
that was so sweet!!!
thats it, I so love Ben now ♥
marus815 2 years ago 47
@marus815 i don't care what's happening to you....
ahh that was so sick.
WhiteNowa1 8 months ago
If they had kept this scene, the flashback in last week's episode would've been more meaningful to the viewers, but I understand why they cut it. It doesn't really add to the plot and its omission makes other scenes more suspenseful.
mabus024 2 years ago
damn that was harsh
Ben maybe a manipulative jack ass most of the time but i know he cares about Alex a lot she should be a bit more nice
Plus he is keeping her away from karl for her own protection
mysticdark1 2 years ago 7
Well damn Alex.
youlmakeitoutalright 2 years ago
Would have been a nice scene to keep. :s
Irockman1 2 years ago 5
wouldn't it be great to see a flashback with young Ben and even younger Alex? Imagine like Alex and Ben as a cute little family playing games and stuff! xD <3
anschelica 2 years ago 5
It would be cool. But if Sayid was right and Ben was 12 in 1977, then he would have been 28 when Alex was born. :( So we probably won't see that. But maybe in a flashback? That would be cool.
RunningWithRum 2 years ago
Haha, Ben playing a board game.
youlmakeitoutalright 2 years ago
Haha, and just two days ago we see Ben pushing little Alex on a swing... ^^ I'm not sure if this was your idea of "play" but if you would have just waited a few weeks... :P
ChayEmerson 2 years ago
Well, yes it was xD When I saw that I started jumping up and down crying xD That was so cute! hope to see more of those.. *crossing my fingers*
anschelica 2 years ago
It's not the room of Caesar Finds on the 5th season???
felipeluthor 2 years ago
I think it is
butt3r5 2 years ago 3
it is the same room
its ben office at the Hydra station
mysticdark1 2 years ago
im guessing its the same room they tend to use a set more then once after then make it..
kargo64 2 years ago
Looks a lot like the office in Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham...
NeedsSemicolon 2 years ago 5
i love dat michael emerson. :D
Dweedlelump 3 years ago 12
Ben - my favorite char
profaa927 3 years ago 22
they shoulda kept this, it shows that ben has feelings too, he's a person too.
systork 3 years ago 56
I agree. This was a very good, brief insight to their characters and some good development. Perhaps at the time they felt they were giving too much away by putting this in, but I would've like to have seen it.
PiratePianist 3 years ago 4
@systork i know this was 1 of the best lost scenes
jay041302 1 year ago
alex did a great job. i could never tell the possibly best actor EVER the things she said. instead of saying "i don't care what happens to you"i would have said i love you and i would give him a looooong hug!!!
Shutter2fly 3 years ago 6
that is so sad!
jokersgirlfriend45 3 years ago 3
LOST is American Television's singular achievment.
badmofo1877 3 years ago 8
DAMMM michael emerson is on a whole nother level of acting
x2432615184x 3 years ago 8
they shouldn´t have left out this scene.
it´s amazing
it´s michael´s next emmy
sofiadegregorio 3 years ago 6
I agree...I would've loved to see this one. Who knows? It could've actually won him the Emmy. I hope he wins this year!
dpj1992 3 years ago
hehehe! Lol-Ben is talking about LOVE! lol! ^^
Agugasek 3 years ago 6
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Oh, yeah, BEN lecturing his daughter about love. Um... remember Goodwin? Remember "You're mine" ? What an ass.
TomerMMHA 3 years ago
Umm... okay, I see a thumb down on my comment calling Ben an ass.
Now, I like Ben, but can the dissenters tell me how he's NOT an ass when it comes to lecturing about love? I mean, how is he not an ass when it comes to dealing with his own love issues? Would anyone here say that he handled it well?
TomerMMHA 3 years ago
I agree. Ben while a great character, HE does not really understand what love is. Not having anyone who loves him in his early life made him possessive and made him want love so bad that he does anything in order to get it. He's selfish with love. Probably why he took Alex. Ben wanted someone who would love him. A baby can't say, "No, I don't want to be around you." The plan backfired when she grew up though.
spacerocker 3 years ago 3
Ben should have taken the girl with him off the island, to the US, and march right into the Jerry Springer show!
Today, on Jerry Springer: "Dad, I don't like it when you kidnap my boyfriend and brainwash him on a freakshow island!"
I believe Ben was already On Jerry on "I killed my dad and became a mass murderer to join "The Others""
TomerMMHA 3 years ago 4
haha!, that would be amazing XD
sofiadegregorio 3 years ago
That hurt, Ben is not a forgiving man LOL
MoniqueIrving 3 years ago
Ben :"(
LostFan1128 3 years ago 4
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Suddenly I don't feel quite as bad about Alex getting a bullet in her head. Still bad, but not quite as bad. Poor Ben.
troodon311 3 years ago
Why this scene was deleted?! It's great!
Kohedlo 3 years ago 2
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ben is a noob! richard is cool;D
ruubern 3 years ago
aww... this makes me wanna give ben a hug.
BenLinusTvsFinest15 3 years ago 8
aww poor ben.. I wish they kept that scene... i love ben!!!
LPROCK4EVA 3 years ago 3
GREAT scene. They really should have kept this one. Emerson is such a great actor and I LOVE Ben!!
Nikooru222 3 years ago 10
They should of kept this one... Goodness it soo Awsome! EVEN THOU I FEEL sorry for ben.. :(
tazzyanio 3 years ago 4
Why did they deleted this scene? It's so great... Aww, poor Ben, he looks so ashamed... :(
Well, just for a few seconds, but still ^^
Lolothegirl123 3 years ago 6
When Ben tells Alex he has a tumor, she does looks very scared...
PeanuttButterLove 3 years ago 5
1:10-> Twin Peaks backwards shit
YouFoolWarrenIsDead 3 years ago
they really should have kept this scene,it was very intense, with great acting as usual oh and they're both amazing actors especially Michael Emerson..
infinitynow90 3 years ago 6
Emerson is the best actor on lost, and o"quinn and cusick are right behind him
LostFan1128 3 years ago 17
tania raymonde is such a good actress.
hanaish 3 years ago 5
i agree that it humanized him too soon, but i think it was good to show their relationship more, and that yeah, she is a teenager so she would've acted that way. and yeah, she was really kool lol
hanaish 3 years ago 5
I miss Alex. She was so cool. I call Ben a Lemur even though he makes the show. It wouldn't be as good without him. Wish they kept this scene. It's really good!!
babygirllily 3 years ago 5
I dig Henry's glasses. 8-)
judyb1169 3 years ago 5
I'm kinda glad they did cut this scene, it just makes Ben look weaker and alex seem like a stroppy teenager
Prunellamary 3 years ago 5
Maybe they cut it because it humanized Ben too early. Either way, for two characters that are father and daughter they haven't had many scenes together.
captain07234 3 years ago 7
Gee...I think it would have set up their relationship very well. They really should have kept it.
mormonhippie 3 years ago 6
I agree and after what happened in last night's episode it would've heightened the tragedy of the moment.
captain07234 3 years ago 4
BEN IS A GOD!!! he knows all the secrets of the island
Zachary4815162342 3 years ago 2
BEN IS A GOD!!! he knows all the secrets of the island
Zachary4815162342 3 years ago
I love how Alex acts so young when she's around Ben. "I hate you! I hate the world! You're so mean!" ^__^
It's too cute.
PinkEraser 3 years ago
Man, some really good, interesting, telling scenes got cut...
opsin 3 years ago
I agree. They shouldn't have deleted it.
dpj1992 3 years ago 6
Great scene, it shouldn't have been deleted.
squalmuirr 3 years ago 5
Um... Why is everyone saying so Bens so great? I don't get it. I hate that guy. Are you talking about Michael Emerson or Ben?
Madz74 3 years ago
Both
mormonhippie 3 years ago 2
i think they both are great wouldnt be such a great show with out him :)
lk200064 3 years ago 2
Because he's a really, really interesting character. Even now we know his past, are you saying you don't want to know exactly what he has planned, and how much of this he has orchestrated?
opsin 3 years ago 2
Great scene, they're both wonderful actors.
anonybelle 3 years ago 2
I clapped when she said "I don't care what happens to you." OH MAN I LOVE HER!
JoeMoron2000 4 years ago 2
I didn't realise she was supposed to only be 16!
Austen1984 4 years ago
Duh! Danielle has been on the island for 16 years and if you saw one of the episodes, it clearly stated she had Alex roughly 2 months after she crashed.
cermet592 3 years ago
this scene is very sad ! poor Ben ! Ben is the Best ! Michael Emerson is very great actor !
LOSTADDICT38 4 years ago
i had a conversation like that last night.
LostFan487 4 years ago
It's cute how she said that then but in the episode last night when John was going to blow her dad's brains out she was balling and practically crawling over her boyfreind to stop him. what a hypocritical bitch. Thanks for sharing the deleted scene it was awesome.
AbraFilo 4 years ago
she was angry here!
MafiaVirusAlias 4 years ago
Abra, She's just being a typical 16 year old who's "dad" is not letting her see her boyfriend. She does love him but is acting out because she's not getting her way. Yes, she didn't want to see the man who raised her get his head blown off, who would?!?
charlottesmom 4 years ago 3
Thank-You charlottesmom!I could not have said better myself!
cermet592 3 years ago
Wishing someone is dead and trying to stop that person from being shot are completely different things. There is no hypocrisy here.
spacerocker 3 years ago 3
i love u aleeeex ;) :P
chillypeppsybaby 4 years ago
Oh, how I love me some Ben.
reverie98 4 years ago
that guy is really a great actor !!
mohamed2011 4 years ago 4
Ben is the Man!!!!!!!!!!
AADDII558 4 years ago 2
i hate ben,... but i love how much i hate him :)
capaincrunch 4 years ago 2
Poor Ben. She doesn't deserve him :-))
keysezozie 4 years ago
What a bitch. I love u ben!
TeenNotKid 4 years ago
:O ben said "Your 16 you dont know what love is", YET When he was like 10 he was in love with that girl :")
CRuiSeRoFCHaOs 4 years ago 7
I think that's exactly why he said that. I think he made a mistake by liking (or loving) that girl, and realizes that Alex might make the same mistake. I feel bad that Ben has to take crap like that from her, she's a bitch.
melrastessa 4 years ago 2
They should make that scene a flashback in season 4, it helps make Ben seem more human. Poor Ben :( I think he really cares for Alex.
EclairPerversePastry 4 years ago 8
Very good idea, Eclair.
pinkosquare 4 years ago
Why thanks :D They could have made it a mobisode; I think "The Envelope" was originally a deleted scene, so I don't see why this couldn't of been made into a mobisode as well. Oh well, I just hope we get more scenes like this soon :)
EclairPerversePastry 4 years ago
Yeah the part at the end of season 3 when Ben's all blooded up and Alex does nothing, I think Alex's characters worser than Shannon.
swiv2d 4 years ago
omg i actually feel sorry for ben. Maybe thats why they took it out they didn't want too much sympathy for him.
yuy124 4 years ago 4
WOW! She is so bratty... thats why I love her... lol not really but they should have so kept this scene it would have explained why ben said in the man from tallahasee "my daughter currently hates me" because for people who didnt really look into their story that scene would have explained it... oh well I still love them... glad i got to see this scene!!!
aikolostie 4 years ago 3
cool vid,love lost!
chillypeppsybaby 4 years ago
I love Alex, she hasn't figured out that I'm her true love yet. So I might be on Ben's side for this one.... and she was kinda bratty in that one.
dvinsanity13 4 years ago 2
Wow, Alex was kinda bratty there. I actually felt horrible for poor Ben...then again, he kinda deserves it. He can be so cold sometimes. AWESOME scene tho, and very well acted. :D
SassyLostie 4 years ago
my heart sank for Ben when Alex said " i hate you, i wish you were dead." Look at Ben's face. he seems heartbroken. poor baby. I hate Alex!! i love you, Ben. <3
linus108Nicole 4 years ago 4
wat does ben say between 1.46 and 2.25? doe sanyone know?
amazinbean 4 years ago
"Well, you may get your wish. I have a tumour on my spine. I need you to know, Alex - this tumour pales in comparison to the pain I feel over how much our relationship has disintegrated."
themelancholyman 4 years ago
Thanks my speakers are crap lol so thanks anyways
amazinbean 4 years ago
You're very welcome. I've had it transcribed before you even asked, so it wasn't any trouble at all.
themelancholyman 4 years ago 2
You've gotta feel sorry for ben in this scene even though wat he did 2 Karl was sick.
amazinbean 4 years ago
taht wa really sad:((((((
Flika123 4 years ago 4
Poor Ben...no one likes him, not even his "own" daughter. Wish this scene would've stayed!
Lissbirds 4 years ago 3
Alex is a brat!
melissaq9 4 years ago
Woah.. Wish that didn't get cut.
spacerocker 4 years ago 2