im gonna get a lot of thumbs down but wtf is with people being judged by pride for their country...just because you were born or are a citizen of a country doesnt make you better then everyone else, no matter where you were born everyones equal, we should be a global community.
and......why can't all these illegal immigrants do what he did??? Heard an illegal on the radio the other day talking about how she wished she could have the opportunities Americans have because she pays taxes too (which she quoted that she pays sales taxes and that's how we know illegals pay taxes because apparently that's the only tax in this country). And she can't go through the citizenship process why?
two type of citizen in america - the state one and the federal one. like the federal government and state government. . every americans who is born in different states have not the same full right in each states.an american born in California has not the same full right as an american born in let say delaware or new york or michigan. boy this is a complicate constitution of the USA.
@imagineaboringlife No American "loves" war. It is a necessary tool to defeat those who would destroy us and our way of life. And we are the greatest country. Name one that is better. There is not one.
@imagineaboringlife Actually, it is the greatest. Don't be bitter because it achieved more freedom and prosperity in 230 years than your shitty Eurotrash commune has in two thousand.
@imagineaboringlife 35 million people should have made better decisions in life. That's why this country is great. There are consequences to your decisions here.
@imagineaboringlife Most of the people in America came from Europe, as does capitalism, science and Christianity and the original idea of democracy. American history is an offshoot of European history. Since its inception, America has been the most powerful force for democracy and helped to save Europe from totalitarianism twice. Its also forwarded capitalism and made huge contributions to science and technology. We owe each other a lot, are not really separate entities. Lets have some love!
@imagineaboringlife well... since Americans are the only ones with enough balls to claim they are the best... who can argue with that? I don't see anybody else claiming the title, do you?
A lot of their influences can be traced to that arrogance.... but you've gotta be arrogant to be the best... You'll always know where they stand 'cause they're not afraid to tell you what they think.
I'm pretty sure being the loudest and most arrogant doesn't constitute being better than someone else...unless it's a contest of who is the loudest and most arrogant.
Under God is an important reference to the fact that, despite peoples teying to rewrite history, the United States was founded based on strong Christian morals. The Founders new that a functional society needed rules and a moral system, and like it or not, the Bible gives a very good set.
@Yarnall541 Most founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. Regardless, "under God" was only added in the 50's when everyone was scared sh*tless of the big, scary, godless Communists. We got along just fine without it before; why did it need to be added, and are we doing any better because it's there?
Check out the following quotation of John Adams (in a separate comment):
@apophis77 Sir, in this you are gravely mistaken, and your statement is false. Nearly all of the Founding Fathers, both of the Declaration and of the Constitution, possessed a strong faith in God and His guidance behind them as they forged a new country. Even the diests, Franklin and Jefferson, possessed far greater belief in God than any of our leaders today. That is a sad tale. @Serpico69 "In God We Trust" was first put on our coins at the behest of a strong man of faith, Abraham Lincoln.
@Yarnall541 No, I don't believe I am mistaken. Faith in God does not equal Christianity. Many religions believe in "God." But even setting that aside, or conceding the point, why should it matter what their beliefs were? Shouldn't people be free to believe what they want and not have to "play along" because of what someone else believed hundreds of years ago? Would you gladly say "under Allah" if they had happened to be Muslim?
Two religions believe in the God I am referring too.
The point that is important is that what those people believed hundreds of years ago are the guiding principles of America, and have helped us attain more in 200 years than any other civilization in the past 5000. They carry more stock than those of a Muslim country, where unbelievers are at best treated with tolerance and at worst with contempt and intense persecution, not to mention their horrible track record of women's rights
@Yarnall541 Actually, *three* religions believe in the God you're referring to; the third just always says the word "God" in Arabic, so it throws people off.
I am aware that Allah is the same word for God. However, with all due respect, I do not believe, as a Christian, that Muslims and Christians refer to the same god. Muslims THINK they do, but Allah is hard nosed, rigid, and harsh, with no room for error. He thinks only of submission, hense muslim, meaning "one who submits". This is a far cry from the Christian God, who is both absolute mercy and vengeance.
@Yarnall541 And at the same time, the Jewish God has no son & regards only the Hebrew people as the Chosen, while the Christian God does have a son & offers salvation to all. There's a reason these three are called the "Abrahamic" religions; they're all based on differing interpretations of the God worshiped by Abraham.
@Yarnall541 Actually, the Allah of the Muslim faith, and the God of the Christian faith are the same God. The Muslim faith originated from Ishmael, Abraham's son with his servant Hagar. Ishmael is considered is considered a prophet of Islam, and is accepted as the son of Abraham in the Muslim faith. It's the same God, just interpreted in three different ways.
"It will never be pretended that any persons employed in [the formation of the United States] had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses... "
“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity…I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.” -June 28, 1813; in a letter to his friend Thomas Jefferson
I will not get into a long fight about this, but it is undeniable that this country has Christian roots.
@Yarnall541 "but it is undeniable that this country has Christian roots."
That's because you were colonized by Christian nations. Most of the founders of your country were atheists, but since the 50's( when you wanted to show your country hold different values than that of communist USSR), some people in your country have been trying to rewrite history to convey the idea that your country is some kind of holy land of Christianity.
@skydark So you're saying that we had to manufacture a higher moral standard for America? False, I'm afraid. We were already at it. But since humans are notoriously bad at remembering their history, they forget the importance of the past.
@Yarnall541 Friend, I don't believe in organized religion, so I'm fortunate enough to not confuse moral with religion. Most atheists HAVE strong moral.
That being said, a quote from Thomas Jefferson:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
@skydark I'm not surprised at that, based on your already stated beliefs. I pity you, though I'm sure you'd shrug it off. I would like to ask you, if you are an atheist, where do your get your moral system from, and do you believe man is inherently good or evil? I am curious... as to the quote, I'm not surprised that Jefferson said that. He was known to take scissors and cut out all the parts of the Bible that he did not agree with or did not like.
@Yarnall541 Where I get my moral system from? I don't have a moral system; what I have are moral values taught and transmitted to me from my parents, family and teachers which all influenced my way of being.Steal, hurt, damage others/public property are not things I'd ever think about doing.
I wouldn't be able to do it. And I don't need to perform rituals and believe in God.
All I need is to use those moral values to assess the situations I encounter in life and base my actions on them.
Very well, sir. You do realize that all of those things which you just said are "wrong" originated from somewhere. Steal: the 8th Commandment. Hurt: The 6th Commandment. Damage property: the 10th Commandment. The earliest form of law or moral code that has been recorded, and it survives to this day. I understand that you were taught right and wrong, but I ask you: where did the idea of right and wrong come from?
@Yarnall541 The idea that the bible originated the differentiation between good and bad is a pretty ridiculous one. Men developed a sense of what's right and wrong at the same time civilization advanced(the first civilizations appeared at about 10000bc) as a requirement for a certain amount of order on the system upon which we live our lives.
Man: good or bad? Depends on the perspective. For the species on the verge of extinction, bad; for each other, we are good as we depend on living together
@skydark You got to understand that, as I don't believe in God, I don't have to swim in absolutes and for the most part realize that the reality of life and our existence can only be understood by understanding all the diferent factors that are a part of it.
@Yarnall541 and your commentary sustains my idea that those that follow religion think others live in a moral void. In reality, my moral is actually so strong that I can be good without being given promises of eternal life and candy.
I'm not good because God is watching, but because its the proper way of existing and functioning in society.
You pity me?! Not as much as I pity you, I can assure you.
In all fairness, I do not think you live in a moral void. I have several genuine friends who are explicitly non-religious. I don't judge them or hate them. I challenge them, and I enjoy debating them. I have enjoyed our discussion so far as well.
I do not believe you answered my last question, which was: Is man inherently good, or evil? Your answer would be helpful, as it would give me an idea of where you're coming from.
@Yarnall541 I think you're making a logical fallacy here. Just because the Bible tells you to do things like turn the other cheek and treat others kindly, it doesn't mean anyone who doesn't read (or at least put any stock in) the Bible will necessarily NOT do these things. They were not invented with the Bible. And the Bible is not needed to arrive at these conclusions.
Guilt-based religions like Christianity would teach against it, but I don't take such a dim view towards my fellow man.
@Yarnall541 "The general principles of Christianity," he says. Well guess what. Those "general principles" are pretty much the same no matter what religion you're talking about, and indeed are common sense so even the dreaded atheists would undoubtedly agree. Turn the other cheek, the Golden Rule, etc.
The thing about the USA is that it's supposed to be founded on ideals like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. *These* are the noble (and non-religious) ideals it was really founded on.
That is true, but the problem is that many people forget about the concepts of Natural Law, and why that is so important to our country and its future wellbeing. If the entire population becomes morally corrupt and refuses to accept that their rights come from a Creator, we will fail, unfortunately.
@Yarnall541 "If the entire population becomes morally corrupt and refuses to accept that their rights come from a Creator, we will fail, unfortunately."
I see "becoming morally corrupt" and "refusing to accept...a Creator" as two entirely different things, neither one directly implying the other. If everyone became morally corrupt, then yes, I'd agree that we'd be headed to ruin. But if no one believed in a Creator...well I don't see the harm in that. In fact I see a lot of potential good.
Turncoat , A turncoat is a person who shifts allegiance from one loyalty or ideal to another, betraying or deserting an original cause by switching to the opposing side.
@Serpico69 Like most government policy from the '50s and thenabouts, the addition of "under God" was an ill-conceived kneejerk reaction to the Red Scare and as the Cold War is long past has no place in a tolerant accepting society. Sure it's not a law, and it establishes the idea of a theistic religion and not one particular religion, but its spirit is against the 1st Amendment.
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usa: land of hypocrisy, where the people in charge can commits horrible crimes across the world and feel like they can get away with it. why? because we're a bunch of cowboys, that's why.
silly americans thinking they really have freedom,
you don't have freedom if you have to swear it in front of a fucking flag.
Turncoat , A turncoat is a person who shifts allegiance from one loyalty or ideal to another, betraying or deserting an original cause by switching to the opposing side.
The U.S. doesn't oppose Britain. He did desert Scotland for the U.S., but that's his right as an American to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness by emigrating here.
@MyMerlin1 We don't "have to" Pledge Allegiance although most of us are proud to do it. The difference between Britian and the US is that your flag belongs to the Queen; ours belongs to us. As Craig has said (A speech in Boston), whatever mistakes our government makes, it is the American people who move the government to make it right. Also more Nobel Prize winners and more Olympic Gold winners. This discussion with computers, on the internet wouldn't exist without the US.
@MyMerlin1 We also don't have to bow to monarchy- so every person and nation has their own peculiar ways of showing deference while still being free. We don't HAVE to pledge- it's a sign of respect that is ingrained from childhood. Respect for a symbol that represents so many things: All our states with the stars & 13 original colonies with the stripes- Thus representing all of us, and where our nation comes from. How is that a horrible thing?
@spfccsmft I agree and the first amendment details The Freedom of Religion. So it's a little backwards. That you have to pledge allegiance to God to obtain citizenship
@ActuallyLiam The 1st amendment says, "there hsall not be any established religion", this means that you can be whatever you want, but most of the founders of America back then were Christians. Plus, Seperation of Church and State is not in the Constitution. It was in a letter by Thomas Jefferson defending religious freedom. He was trying to keep the government out of the church, not the church out of the gov.
actually, that is not entirely honest way to put it :P a god yes, but thats about it. nothing points to christian deity, even if one is inclined to read it so.
Freed the Iraqi people from their Tyrant that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children, freed the Afganistan people from their tyrants/terrorists, loosing life, sheding blood and limbs in every situation mentioned above and below. America has not done enough recently, pardon us while we take a break for "hope". President Barack Obama's message of Hope and apologizing for all we done, we will do more shortly. Rest of World, your welcome for all we have done. "Freedom"
Sir, if you don't mind me saying, I think your blind patriotic love towards America is sligtly deluded.
Why be proud of a place of Birth? surely you should be proud of what you achive and not the place you are born?
I'm English for example, and while I'm happy being English and like the place, getting into a heated argument over a piece of land seems somewhat silly.
It's only land my friend, having a powerful country isn't always a good thing.
There is a supposed separation of church and state today, even there is a good chance that if someone is in the Republican party they are a Christian or believe in god in some capacity. (Many of these people support a mandatory prayer in school every morning for instance)
separation of church and state was actually ment to keep the state out of the church (church of england as an example) but people nowadays have twisted it around to keep God out government
Perhaps a twist is the right thing to do, they believed in slavery- do you still believe in that? We have evolved enough to see that man has created god and not the other way around.(some of us have evolved) for the others- "In God we trust" Oddly enough these same people don't use 2000 year old medical techniques but the god of that era is just fine in their book.
@IM1deadMONEY Actually, a fairly large number of them 235 years ago *didn't* believe in slavery; lots of countries had banned it already, & it was a major point of argument amongst the Continental Congress while the Declaration of Independence was being revised. Thomas Jefferson (whose first draft of the Declaration included a denouncement of slavery) resolved to release his slaves to freedom & did so, and John Adams accurately predicted in what decade a war would occur over American slavery.
@IM1deadMONEY I don't remember if it was the majority or not, but the Continental Congress needed a unanimous vote (a majority of the delegates from each of the 13 colonies) to pass the Declaration, so even if just 1 or 2 colonies were going to hold out over slavery, the rest had to concede the matter for the time being.
Btw, to you folks who are talking shit about Craig Ferguson, because he wasn't born in the U.S... This -American Citizen- starts every 'late' show with "It's a great day for America, everybody.". Now let me ask you negative 'Americans' something.. when was the last time you started ANYTHING with "It's a great day for America."?
If you don't mind, I will inform. It all began with one of the greatest documents ever written "We the people, We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal," America was one of the main reason to defeat Germany (The Nazi's) from killing millions more Jewish and other men, women and children, giving "Freedom" back to Europe. and defeating and stopping Japanese atrocities, Forming/Hosting paying more than our share forming the United Nations.
I believe the constitution doesn't mention women, it just says men are created equal. Japanese atrocities, we threw 2 atomic bombs at innocent civilians. Not to mention black oppression that ended just the other day. Don't get me wrong, I love America, but we are not as omnipotent as you present us. Krevno is right, every nation has something to apologize for, and we are no exception.
@yiyopr1 yes we are not perfect and that happens with anything made by man meaning (men and women) but this country under the constitution has the best hope for providing freedom and the ability for anyone to live the life they want to more than any other country in the world unless the progressives change that soon.
@Dekker451 Nice job replying to a 10 month old comment... Idiot. First of all, there's a difference between racism and oppression... Secondly, I didn't see the germans or the japanese completely destroying two cities and all of their inhabitants (many english civilians died from Hitler's raids, but not to the grave extent we tolled on the japanese). Yeah the founding fathers included an amendment system! That's why it now says women too right? Oh wait, it still doesn't...
@yiyopr1 So it's purely a numbers game. America is more evil than Japan or Germany because our ancestors killed more of their ancestors than vice versa? By that logic the Soviet Union was the least evil of all because they lost the most people in the war...oh wait, Stalin was eventually responsible for even more murders than Hitler. Oops!
Forgot about the 19th Amendment? Oops again!
Might want to check your facts next time. Obviously you're on the Internet so there's really no excuse.
@sunnoisamazing VE Day was pretty awesome for America, as were the day the Declaration of Independence was signed, the day the Treaty of Paris was signed, & the day Dubya Bush moved out of the White House.
you obviously do. in fact you seem to be a bit disturbed, you got comments spanning from multiple weeks on this video trashing Craig, go outside or something.
Well let's see...he lives here, pays taxes here, pays alimony here, raises his child here, married here, has a TV show here, has a house here, obeys our laws...what the hell other proof do you need?
I'm amazed, humbled, and in deep respect for how seriously and deeply he's taking his first oath. For someone his age, it may be the only time he says the Pledge of Allegiance, and even more, he might actually know the spirit of America as a country of history than a country of the moment. For a comedian and a Scotsman, it's a big personal deal to be so serious. For a person, who is otherwise an average kind and humble, it's meaningfully more. Welcome
When I was in elementary school I was SOOoo confused about that. I thought it meant that America was right under the really big and tall chair that God sat on as he looked down from above. I didn't want to be under Him like that. Kinda scary.
Okay first off EVERY country, nation, county, province, content, culture, religion, and city/town has there problems. So stop fighting about who is better and shit. And if we give you money putting ourselves in debt to keep you as our supposed Allies then you should be helping us out and vice versa. Nobody stands behind anybody anymore and everybody has say they are the best. BTW This video has never forced you to believe his beliefs so get over it and move on.
I love Craig Ferguson. He is so real and isn't afraid to show it.
clblackburn1111 8 months ago
im gonna get a lot of thumbs down but wtf is with people being judged by pride for their country...just because you were born or are a citizen of a country doesnt make you better then everyone else, no matter where you were born everyones equal, we should be a global community.
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MyMerlin1 9 months ago
I love Craig. Most "Americans" should be ashame that they don't love the USA as much as this guy. Yeah, God bless America!
MrRayBnz 10 months ago
@MrRayBnz Many Americans don't even know their country is a secular nation, with a secular founding document, either...
MattSingh1 8 months ago
I love how he's surrounded by hispanics lol
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MyMerlin1 1 year ago
Is it just me or is it super adorable how proud he is of his citizenship?
specialkrj 1 year ago 10
@specialkrj It's just you.
scottydfa 11 months ago
1st Amendment:
"There shall be no laws made in respect of religion."
"And a nation under god."
...You people suck... You ruined America with your socialist radicals!
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
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that's an atagonysm, yea: why swear to god when you're not a believer? In my country, we got a swear and a pledge
saemikneu 1 year ago
You know I was born in America but decided to take the American Citizenship test. It's hard. Hat's off to all naturalized citizens.
bluesboy25000 1 year ago 2
This really touched me, especially to see such a funny, amazing man grow so serious and sincere. Amazing. :)
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ThatNickGuy28 1 year ago
I love Craig Ferguson. He definitely is proud to be an American, probably moreso than half of Americans are.
RoseMaddison 1 year ago 4
He's probably got more pride than 70% of Americans today
JeremyBarandela 1 year ago 68
@JeremyBarandela our loss (sort of) is your gain.
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MyMerlin1 1 year ago
@MyMerlin1 Good to know you can be honest with yourself.
specialkrj 1 year ago
Never trust a turncoat.
ludocrat 1 year ago
and......why can't all these illegal immigrants do what he did??? Heard an illegal on the radio the other day talking about how she wished she could have the opportunities Americans have because she pays taxes too (which she quoted that she pays sales taxes and that's how we know illegals pay taxes because apparently that's the only tax in this country). And she can't go through the citizenship process why?
xena2shoes 1 year ago
America is weird. One nation under god, *cough* first ammendment *cough*
cruncher221 1 year ago
Gosh. Craigy's a better American than me. xD Everyday at school, I don't even say the pledge. xD It's toooooooooo monotonous. >.> Good job, Craigy.
EvanescentWoodNymph 1 year ago
two type of citizen in america - the state one and the federal one. like the federal government and state government. . every americans who is born in different states have not the same full right in each states.an american born in California has not the same full right as an american born in let say delaware or new york or michigan. boy this is a complicate constitution of the USA.
71gk 1 year ago
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MyMerlin1 1 year ago
People make such pooha about it. The Us isn't the greatest country in the world. People act like it is though.
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife maybe so. but were the most powerful. and thats all that matters.
lanedrew164 1 year ago
@lanedrew164 Let's start a war shall we? Give you a chance to act all patriotic, come on you people love war, let's do it!
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife No American "loves" war. It is a necessary tool to defeat those who would destroy us and our way of life. And we are the greatest country. Name one that is better. There is not one.
AlexRGravlin 1 year ago
@AlexRGravlin You're not the greatest country in a lot of ways. A lot of ways. BTw i'm educated, if anyone has doubts, I know my history
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife Actually, it is the greatest. Don't be bitter because it achieved more freedom and prosperity in 230 years than your shitty Eurotrash commune has in two thousand.
Supermassively 1 year ago
@Supermassively What makes you think i'm bitter? Do you feel attacked? Prosperity? 35 million people in the Us live below the poverty line.
Freedom? You can google that yourself.
I love how you capitalized Eurotrash.
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife 35 million people should have made better decisions in life. That's why this country is great. There are consequences to your decisions here.
Supermassively 1 year ago
@Supermassively You are a retard.
Cheers from an American.
foxygrandpa991 1 year ago
@foxygrandpa991 And you are a self-hating jackass. Move to Britain, lowlife. If you hate this country, we're so great that we actually let you leave!
Supermassively 1 year ago
@Supermassively I'm 18, I plan on leaving ASAP.
foxygrandpa991 1 year ago
@foxygrandpa991 Yeah, like you'll ever go through with it. You won't have the freedom to hate your country in many other countries.
Supermassively 1 year ago
@Supermassively I'm not going to argue with you anymore. Come back when you know a bit about the world
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife Most of the people in America came from Europe, as does capitalism, science and Christianity and the original idea of democracy. American history is an offshoot of European history. Since its inception, America has been the most powerful force for democracy and helped to save Europe from totalitarianism twice. Its also forwarded capitalism and made huge contributions to science and technology. We owe each other a lot, are not really separate entities. Lets have some love!
InnocenceExperience 1 year ago
@InnocenceExperience What makes you think I don't know? I'm educated.
Also, America has not been the most powerful force since it's inception.
If I remember correctly (and I think I do) it's WOI and II that made the Us the force it is today.
Anyway, I just don't like the attitude of the Us. Not in the past, not in the present, I doubt it will change in the future.
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InnocenceExperience 1 year ago
@lanedrew164 Ever heard of China?
TheMysteriousZebra 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife
Only people in the US think that :D
Kaulen777 1 year ago
@imagineaboringlife well... since Americans are the only ones with enough balls to claim they are the best... who can argue with that? I don't see anybody else claiming the title, do you?
A lot of their influences can be traced to that arrogance.... but you've gotta be arrogant to be the best... You'll always know where they stand 'cause they're not afraid to tell you what they think.
beenn15 1 year ago
@beenn15
I'm pretty sure being the loudest and most arrogant doesn't constitute being better than someone else...unless it's a contest of who is the loudest and most arrogant.
knnyphph 1 year ago
@knnyphph Agreed, what a dumb thing to say.
imagineaboringlife 1 year ago
im glad that he is an american......and how proud he is to be one
mercuryrulz 1 year ago 74
Were his fingers crossed under the coat?????
bear1989s 1 year ago
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McDopetron 1 year ago
Under God is an important reference to the fact that, despite peoples teying to rewrite history, the United States was founded based on strong Christian morals. The Founders new that a functional society needed rules and a moral system, and like it or not, the Bible gives a very good set.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 Most founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. Regardless, "under God" was only added in the 50's when everyone was scared sh*tless of the big, scary, godless Communists. We got along just fine without it before; why did it need to be added, and are we doing any better because it's there?
Check out the following quotation of John Adams (in a separate comment):
apophis77 1 year ago
@apophis77 Sir, in this you are gravely mistaken, and your statement is false. Nearly all of the Founding Fathers, both of the Declaration and of the Constitution, possessed a strong faith in God and His guidance behind them as they forged a new country. Even the diests, Franklin and Jefferson, possessed far greater belief in God than any of our leaders today. That is a sad tale. @Serpico69 "In God We Trust" was first put on our coins at the behest of a strong man of faith, Abraham Lincoln.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 No, I don't believe I am mistaken. Faith in God does not equal Christianity. Many religions believe in "God." But even setting that aside, or conceding the point, why should it matter what their beliefs were? Shouldn't people be free to believe what they want and not have to "play along" because of what someone else believed hundreds of years ago? Would you gladly say "under Allah" if they had happened to be Muslim?
apophis77 1 year ago
@apophis77
Two religions believe in the God I am referring too.
The point that is important is that what those people believed hundreds of years ago are the guiding principles of America, and have helped us attain more in 200 years than any other civilization in the past 5000. They carry more stock than those of a Muslim country, where unbelievers are at best treated with tolerance and at worst with contempt and intense persecution, not to mention their horrible track record of women's rights
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 Actually, *three* religions believe in the God you're referring to; the third just always says the word "God" in Arabic, so it throws people off.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
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I am aware that Allah is the same word for God. However, with all due respect, I do not believe, as a Christian, that Muslims and Christians refer to the same god. Muslims THINK they do, but Allah is hard nosed, rigid, and harsh, with no room for error. He thinks only of submission, hense muslim, meaning "one who submits". This is a far cry from the Christian God, who is both absolute mercy and vengeance.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 And at the same time, the Jewish God has no son & regards only the Hebrew people as the Chosen, while the Christian God does have a son & offers salvation to all. There's a reason these three are called the "Abrahamic" religions; they're all based on differing interpretations of the God worshiped by Abraham.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
@CaptHayfever Yea but too bad there all fake
madhouse221 1 year ago
@madhouse221 No, they're all real; I've seen them. All three of those religions totally exist.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 dude you rock the house.....proverbs 3:5 brother in Christ!!!
aurick7737 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 Actually, the Allah of the Muslim faith, and the God of the Christian faith are the same God. The Muslim faith originated from Ishmael, Abraham's son with his servant Hagar. Ishmael is considered is considered a prophet of Islam, and is accepted as the son of Abraham in the Muslim faith. It's the same God, just interpreted in three different ways.
MadyWolfe 1 year ago
@MadyWolfe You forgot hebrew ;)
prehistoricyall 1 year ago
@Yarnall541
"It will never be pretended that any persons employed in [the formation of the United States] had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses... "
apophis77 1 year ago
@apophis77
With your quote, I answer with another:
“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity…I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.” -June 28, 1813; in a letter to his friend Thomas Jefferson
I will not get into a long fight about this, but it is undeniable that this country has Christian roots.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 "but it is undeniable that this country has Christian roots."
That's because you were colonized by Christian nations. Most of the founders of your country were atheists, but since the 50's( when you wanted to show your country hold different values than that of communist USSR), some people in your country have been trying to rewrite history to convey the idea that your country is some kind of holy land of Christianity.
Religion can be a dangerous thing sometimes.
skydark 1 year ago
@skydark So you're saying that we had to manufacture a higher moral standard for America? False, I'm afraid. We were already at it. But since humans are notoriously bad at remembering their history, they forget the importance of the past.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 Friend, I don't believe in organized religion, so I'm fortunate enough to not confuse moral with religion. Most atheists HAVE strong moral.
That being said, a quote from Thomas Jefferson:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
skydark 1 year ago
@skydark I'm not surprised at that, based on your already stated beliefs. I pity you, though I'm sure you'd shrug it off. I would like to ask you, if you are an atheist, where do your get your moral system from, and do you believe man is inherently good or evil? I am curious... as to the quote, I'm not surprised that Jefferson said that. He was known to take scissors and cut out all the parts of the Bible that he did not agree with or did not like.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 Where I get my moral system from? I don't have a moral system; what I have are moral values taught and transmitted to me from my parents, family and teachers which all influenced my way of being.Steal, hurt, damage others/public property are not things I'd ever think about doing.
I wouldn't be able to do it. And I don't need to perform rituals and believe in God.
All I need is to use those moral values to assess the situations I encounter in life and base my actions on them.
skydark 1 year ago
@skydark
Very well, sir. You do realize that all of those things which you just said are "wrong" originated from somewhere. Steal: the 8th Commandment. Hurt: The 6th Commandment. Damage property: the 10th Commandment. The earliest form of law or moral code that has been recorded, and it survives to this day. I understand that you were taught right and wrong, but I ask you: where did the idea of right and wrong come from?
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 The idea that the bible originated the differentiation between good and bad is a pretty ridiculous one. Men developed a sense of what's right and wrong at the same time civilization advanced(the first civilizations appeared at about 10000bc) as a requirement for a certain amount of order on the system upon which we live our lives.
Man: good or bad? Depends on the perspective. For the species on the verge of extinction, bad; for each other, we are good as we depend on living together
skydark 1 year ago
@skydark You got to understand that, as I don't believe in God, I don't have to swim in absolutes and for the most part realize that the reality of life and our existence can only be understood by understanding all the diferent factors that are a part of it.
skydark 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 and your commentary sustains my idea that those that follow religion think others live in a moral void. In reality, my moral is actually so strong that I can be good without being given promises of eternal life and candy.
I'm not good because God is watching, but because its the proper way of existing and functioning in society.
You pity me?! Not as much as I pity you, I can assure you.
skydark 1 year ago
@skydark
In all fairness, I do not think you live in a moral void. I have several genuine friends who are explicitly non-religious. I don't judge them or hate them. I challenge them, and I enjoy debating them. I have enjoyed our discussion so far as well.
I do not believe you answered my last question, which was: Is man inherently good, or evil? Your answer would be helpful, as it would give me an idea of where you're coming from.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 I think you're making a logical fallacy here. Just because the Bible tells you to do things like turn the other cheek and treat others kindly, it doesn't mean anyone who doesn't read (or at least put any stock in) the Bible will necessarily NOT do these things. They were not invented with the Bible. And the Bible is not needed to arrive at these conclusions.
Guilt-based religions like Christianity would teach against it, but I don't take such a dim view towards my fellow man.
apophis77 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 "The general principles of Christianity," he says. Well guess what. Those "general principles" are pretty much the same no matter what religion you're talking about, and indeed are common sense so even the dreaded atheists would undoubtedly agree. Turn the other cheek, the Golden Rule, etc.
The thing about the USA is that it's supposed to be founded on ideals like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. *These* are the noble (and non-religious) ideals it was really founded on.
apophis77 1 year ago
@apophis77
That is true, but the problem is that many people forget about the concepts of Natural Law, and why that is so important to our country and its future wellbeing. If the entire population becomes morally corrupt and refuses to accept that their rights come from a Creator, we will fail, unfortunately.
Yarnall541 1 year ago
@Yarnall541 "If the entire population becomes morally corrupt and refuses to accept that their rights come from a Creator, we will fail, unfortunately."
I see "becoming morally corrupt" and "refusing to accept...a Creator" as two entirely different things, neither one directly implying the other. If everyone became morally corrupt, then yes, I'd agree that we'd be headed to ruin. But if no one believed in a Creator...well I don't see the harm in that. In fact I see a lot of potential good.
apophis77 1 year ago
@apophis77 Agreed. If that were to happen (the not believing in a creator part) I'd be like, "Yes! Second Dark Age avoided!"
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Turncoat , A turncoat is a person who shifts allegiance from one loyalty or ideal to another, betraying or deserting an original cause by switching to the opposing side.
MyMerlin1 1 year ago
"under god" -- for fuck's sake, the sheer arrogance
they even have "in god we trust" printed on their dollar bills...talk about indoctrination!
land of the free...yeah right.
Serpico69 1 year ago
@Serpico69 Like most government policy from the '50s and thenabouts, the addition of "under God" was an ill-conceived kneejerk reaction to the Red Scare and as the Cold War is long past has no place in a tolerant accepting society. Sure it's not a law, and it establishes the idea of a theistic religion and not one particular religion, but its spirit is against the 1st Amendment.
Qermaq 1 year ago
@Serpico69 yeah right? I thought church and state were supposed to be seperate!
uberelf65 1 year ago
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usa: land of hypocrisy, where the people in charge can commits horrible crimes across the world and feel like they can get away with it. why? because we're a bunch of cowboys, that's why.
silly americans thinking they really have freedom,
you don't have freedom if you have to swear it in front of a fucking flag.
they're just FORCING you .
Serpico69 1 year ago
Turncoat , A turncoat is a person who shifts allegiance from one loyalty or ideal to another, betraying or deserting an original cause by switching to the opposing side.
MyMerlin1 1 year ago
How is he switching to the opposing side...
The U.S. doesn't oppose Britain. He did desert Scotland for the U.S., but that's his right as an American to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness by emigrating here.
Hawk02VUSAFS 1 year ago
hes scottish people, scottish born and bred untill the age of 31
taojjbtcrf108 1 year ago
Ha ha ha , we have FREEDOM in England because we DON'T have to pledge allegiance to our flag. In America they are told to do it.
MyMerlin1 1 year ago
i think its the same for emmigrants who want UK citizenship........do they no need to take an oath of loyalty to the queen??
maybe i'm talkin shite!
anyways fuck it man ALBA GU BRATH :P :P
Craig Ferguson is the man!
joetavish 1 year ago
@MyMerlin1 We don't "have to" Pledge Allegiance although most of us are proud to do it. The difference between Britian and the US is that your flag belongs to the Queen; ours belongs to us. As Craig has said (A speech in Boston), whatever mistakes our government makes, it is the American people who move the government to make it right. Also more Nobel Prize winners and more Olympic Gold winners. This discussion with computers, on the internet wouldn't exist without the US.
TheFred3733 1 year ago
@TheFred3733
"This discussion with computers, on the internet wouldn't exist without the US. "
Ummm, the internet and world wide web were both invented by English men. So I don't know what you're talking about.
(Google Tim Berners Lee and Charles Babbage if you don't believe me.)
AVoodooSmile 1 year ago
@MyMerlin1 We also don't have to bow to monarchy- so every person and nation has their own peculiar ways of showing deference while still being free. We don't HAVE to pledge- it's a sign of respect that is ingrained from childhood. Respect for a symbol that represents so many things: All our states with the stars & 13 original colonies with the stripes- Thus representing all of us, and where our nation comes from. How is that a horrible thing?
cambryn 1 year ago
only white dude there
NJRocks281 1 year ago
@jomayc0ck, I meant to emphasize the fact that Christianity was extremely common.
Seriously though, you can count Irish Catholics as 2 Christians, since they're a bunch of fanatics. So you could reach 150% I think.
janroucax 2 years ago
Plain God and not Jesus is a moot point, because :
1. No one swears solemny in the name of Jesus.
2. In 1776, there were like 150% of Christians in the American population. Islam and Judaism were quite insignificant in Europe back then.
janroucax 2 years ago
@janroucax I may be being stupid here but how can one have 150% of anything?
jomayc0ck 2 years ago
you really don't understand percentages do you?
imnevermakingavideo 2 years ago
@janroucax Where exactly did you get your numbers from?
caalexander08 2 years ago
It just says God. It doesn't say which God.
Now, if it said Jesus there could be a legitimate complaint.
Docbrown777 2 years ago 4
@Docbrown777 But what if you don't believe in any God at all?
InsanelyxLogical 1 year ago
@Docbrown777 The problem is that by saying God, it promotes monotheism over polytheism, agnosticism, atheism, etc.
spfccsmft 1 year ago
@spfccsmft I agree and the first amendment details The Freedom of Religion. So it's a little backwards. That you have to pledge allegiance to God to obtain citizenship
ActuallyLiam 1 year ago
@ActuallyLiam The 1st amendment says, "there hsall not be any established religion", this means that you can be whatever you want, but most of the founders of America back then were Christians. Plus, Seperation of Church and State is not in the Constitution. It was in a letter by Thomas Jefferson defending religious freedom. He was trying to keep the government out of the church, not the church out of the gov.
Ironhide12977 11 months ago 6
God is actually part of the oath to become American.
And you pretend to try to fight religious fanatics when God is in your constitution, HAHAHA.
janroucax 2 years ago
actually, that is not entirely honest way to put it :P a god yes, but thats about it. nothing points to christian deity, even if one is inclined to read it so.
somberlight 2 years ago
@insaneWW2freak
Did you know that...
the roads you drive on...
are payed by other people?
AND THAT THE POLICE AND FIREMEN
are payed by other people?
*gasp*
Do you want to get rid of that, since we are under a capitalist system?
AnnaSmee 2 years ago
He looks like he's about to cry.
AnnaSmee 2 years ago
first few seconds of this video:
craig puts his hand in his jacket as if he would pull out a guy
haha i love this man
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krevno 2 years ago 6
I think you are an extremely intelligent, well spoken human being. Congratulations.
skydark 2 years ago
Freed the Iraqi people from their Tyrant that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children, freed the Afganistan people from their tyrants/terrorists, loosing life, sheding blood and limbs in every situation mentioned above and below. America has not done enough recently, pardon us while we take a break for "hope". President Barack Obama's message of Hope and apologizing for all we done, we will do more shortly. Rest of World, your welcome for all we have done. "Freedom"
jayjames5 2 years ago
This guy is a great American.
AlexRGravlin 2 years ago 72
craig makes me proud of my country. i never appreciated it before i saw his passion.
DriveThruOnly 2 years ago 11
wow you sound like mrs obama
GunslingerA29 2 years ago
oh. i'd rather not.
DriveThruOnly 2 years ago
Pretty much lol.
They were trying to forbid North korea for testing missiles lol.
Morrisseyisdead 2 years ago
Because with that power you get attention, and that attention usually involves other countries business.
Morrisseyisdead 2 years ago
Sir, if you don't mind me saying, I think your blind patriotic love towards America is sligtly deluded.
Why be proud of a place of Birth? surely you should be proud of what you achive and not the place you are born?
I'm English for example, and while I'm happy being English and like the place, getting into a heated argument over a piece of land seems somewhat silly.
It's only land my friend, having a powerful country isn't always a good thing.
Morrisseyisdead 2 years ago
I share your oppinion fully.
shurednichso 2 years ago
I wounder why hes holding his hand inside his jacket like that / you can spot these people a mile off
energy311 2 years ago
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He is a DICKHEAD , America is welcome to him.
MyMerlin1 2 years ago
It's closer to his heart?
m173627 2 years ago
What does "One nation under God" mean ?
MyMerlin1 2 years ago
It means it was written 200 years ago.
There is a supposed separation of church and state today, even there is a good chance that if someone is in the Republican party they are a Christian or believe in god in some capacity. (Many of these people support a mandatory prayer in school every morning for instance)
IM1deadMONEY 2 years ago
separation of church and state was actually ment to keep the state out of the church (church of england as an example) but people nowadays have twisted it around to keep God out government
GunslingerA29 2 years ago 2
Perhaps a twist is the right thing to do, they believed in slavery- do you still believe in that? We have evolved enough to see that man has created god and not the other way around.(some of us have evolved) for the others- "In God we trust" Oddly enough these same people don't use 2000 year old medical techniques but the god of that era is just fine in their book.
IM1deadMONEY 2 years ago
@IM1deadMONEY Actually, a fairly large number of them 235 years ago *didn't* believe in slavery; lots of countries had banned it already, & it was a major point of argument amongst the Continental Congress while the Declaration of Independence was being revised. Thomas Jefferson (whose first draft of the Declaration included a denouncement of slavery) resolved to release his slaves to freedom & did so, and John Adams accurately predicted in what decade a war would occur over American slavery.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
@CaptHayfever A fairly large number but clearly not the majority.
IM1deadMONEY 1 year ago
@IM1deadMONEY I don't remember if it was the majority or not, but the Continental Congress needed a unanimous vote (a majority of the delegates from each of the 13 colonies) to pass the Declaration, so even if just 1 or 2 colonies were going to hold out over slavery, the rest had to concede the matter for the time being.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
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AlexRGravlin 2 years ago
"One nation under God" - so much for seperation of church and state.
Good on you though, Craig. :)
AnonRanGER01 2 years ago
Btw, to you folks who are talking shit about Craig Ferguson, because he wasn't born in the U.S... This -American Citizen- starts every 'late' show with "It's a great day for America, everybody.". Now let me ask you negative 'Americans' something.. when was the last time you started ANYTHING with "It's a great day for America."?
LichtorWright 2 years ago 3
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let me ask you, when was there EVER a great day for america?
sunnoisamazing 2 years ago
If you don't mind, I will inform. It all began with one of the greatest documents ever written "We the people, We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal," America was one of the main reason to defeat Germany (The Nazi's) from killing millions more Jewish and other men, women and children, giving "Freedom" back to Europe. and defeating and stopping Japanese atrocities, Forming/Hosting paying more than our share forming the United Nations.
jayjames5 2 years ago
I believe the constitution doesn't mention women, it just says men are created equal. Japanese atrocities, we threw 2 atomic bombs at innocent civilians. Not to mention black oppression that ended just the other day. Don't get me wrong, I love America, but we are not as omnipotent as you present us. Krevno is right, every nation has something to apologize for, and we are no exception.
yiyopr1 2 years ago 6
@yiyopr1
Black oppression.. ended? Hm?
AnnaSmee 2 years ago
@yiyopr1 yes we are not perfect and that happens with anything made by man meaning (men and women) but this country under the constitution has the best hope for providing freedom and the ability for anyone to live the life they want to more than any other country in the world unless the progressives change that soon.
stntx04 1 year ago
@yiyopr1 You forgot what we (the United States) did (and are still doing) to the American Indians..
Yefatbastard 1 year ago
@yiyopr1 Well, first of all there's a reason the Founding Fathers included the amendment system in the Constitution.
Secondly, America wasn't the only nation in WWII to wage what was then termed "total war".
Lastly, if you think that racism is suddenly over because Obama was elected President then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Dekker451 1 year ago
@Dekker451 Nice job replying to a 10 month old comment... Idiot. First of all, there's a difference between racism and oppression... Secondly, I didn't see the germans or the japanese completely destroying two cities and all of their inhabitants (many english civilians died from Hitler's raids, but not to the grave extent we tolled on the japanese). Yeah the founding fathers included an amendment system! That's why it now says women too right? Oh wait, it still doesn't...
yiyopr1 1 year ago
@yiyopr1 So it's purely a numbers game. America is more evil than Japan or Germany because our ancestors killed more of their ancestors than vice versa? By that logic the Soviet Union was the least evil of all because they lost the most people in the war...oh wait, Stalin was eventually responsible for even more murders than Hitler. Oops!
Forgot about the 19th Amendment? Oops again!
Might want to check your facts next time. Obviously you're on the Internet so there's really no excuse.
Dekker451 1 year ago
@yiyopr1 nothing wrong with the a-bombs you limp wristed hippy bitch
njdevil281 1 year ago
@yiyopr1
19th ammendment to the constitution...
isaacopedal 1 year ago
@sunnoisamazing VE Day was pretty awesome for America, as were the day the Declaration of Independence was signed, the day the Treaty of Paris was signed, & the day Dubya Bush moved out of the White House.
CaptHayfever 1 year ago
That must have been a really proud day for him.
LichtorWright 2 years ago 3
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MyMerlin1 2 years ago
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MyMerlin1 2 years ago
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I do
.....take that, you jealous English c*nt.
dazzanumber3 2 years ago
you obviously do. in fact you seem to be a bit disturbed, you got comments spanning from multiple weeks on this video trashing Craig, go outside or something.
gatsu6969 2 years ago
Welcome to the party Craig. Now if we could get rid of someone for everyone with a brain we take in we would be good to go.
JohnBigBootay 2 years ago 3
Strange that he says he is proud to be a Scot
MyMerlin1 2 years ago
It's not strange. It's where he was born, where his family lived. He is Scottish by birth and American by choice.
soulcornflake1 2 years ago 15
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Jesus said, No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
MyMerlin1 2 years ago
Well let's see...he lives here, pays taxes here, pays alimony here, raises his child here, married here, has a TV show here, has a house here, obeys our laws...what the hell other proof do you need?
soulcornflake1 2 years ago 7
and? We can quote fictional characters all day, then where will we be.
acidmaniac 2 years ago
I'm amazed, humbled, and in deep respect for how seriously and deeply he's taking his first oath. For someone his age, it may be the only time he says the Pledge of Allegiance, and even more, he might actually know the spirit of America as a country of history than a country of the moment. For a comedian and a Scotsman, it's a big personal deal to be so serious. For a person, who is otherwise an average kind and humble, it's meaningfully more. Welcome
SavageInsight 2 years ago 29
@SavageInsight
He's only 47!
AnnaSmee 2 years ago
haha i imagine if we would do that in our country everybody would be like: "nazis"!! ^^
gulaschsuppm 2 years ago
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am i the only one who see that there are only two whites in a crowd of a thousand mexicans?
larsdassler 2 years ago
"one nation under god"? :)
It's like describing a sexual intercourse (missionary position hahah) :)
ertansaygi 2 years ago 4
When I was in elementary school I was SOOoo confused about that. I thought it meant that America was right under the really big and tall chair that God sat on as he looked down from above. I didn't want to be under Him like that. Kinda scary.
SavageInsight 2 years ago
Like the picture at the ending of "Conan the barbarian"? :)
Watch "Dogma", the movie...
I'd be happy being under Alanis Morrissette :P
(As far as she doesnt talk to me of course as my head would blow up from her wonderful voice :) )
ertansaygi 2 years ago
Okay first off EVERY country, nation, county, province, content, culture, religion, and city/town has there problems. So stop fighting about who is better and shit. And if we give you money putting ourselves in debt to keep you as our supposed Allies then you should be helping us out and vice versa. Nobody stands behind anybody anymore and everybody has say they are the best. BTW This video has never forced you to believe his beliefs so get over it and move on.
Callieprue 2 years ago 9
well said
dude0242 2 years ago