Paracel Islands, Spratly Islands - belongs to us

[limkchiew]

Spartly Island belongs to Sabah, Malaysia. Everybody fuck off.

[BAIYUE1]

Southeast Asia belongs to us- ASEAN

Chinese invader get out

[SuperMonchu]

Long Live ASEAN, together we'll stand against any treat that will attempt to break us apart!

[tru3prodigy]

paracel islands belong to vietnam !

china can fuck off

[DeDanielAOM]

im chinese and i hate china.. i will defend ASEAN for this for my beloved homeland Brunei

[Harry1992728]

@DeDanielAOM 韩国低能儿，装什么中国人。

[francisceno1976]

southeast asian countries unite! time to rise up brothers!(from philippines!)

[DCFunBud]

The music sounds like a cross between a Lutheran hymn and a Dr. Seuss Christmas carol.

[chineseheart]

Only negotiation between the concern countries will solve the problem.

If China behaves like USA, there is no need to talk, all the neighbour will speak in mandarin and use RMB.

[chuvanangalaxy]

(BBC) In July 2008, China has also pressuring ExxonMobil to stop projects with Vietnam in Beijing said that the area was under Chinese sovereignty.

That project is in the southern continental shelf, including lots 135 and 136, the private sector - Rifleman's Nam Con Son basin.

Mr. Michael Michalak - Former U.S. ambassador was then remarked: giant ExxonMobil has the power 'as the countries' and the policy of their own.

[CanCayate2]

@chuvanangalaxy

rofl, are you a south vietname?

[anonamese]

@CanCayate2 North or South, we still are Vietnamese, you fucktard!

[chuvanangalaxy]

Vào tháng 7/2008, Trung Quốc cũng đã gây sức ép buộc ExxonMobil ngừng dự án với Việt Nam tại khu vực mà Bắc Kinh nói là thuộc chủ quyền Trung Quốc.

Dự án đó nằm trên thềm lục địa phía Nam, gồm các lô 135 và 136, khu vực Tư Chính - Vũng Mây của bồn trũng Nam Côn Sơn.

Ông Michael Michalak - Nguyên là Đại sứ Hoa Kỳ lúc đó là từng nhận xét: tập đoàn ExxonMobil có sức mạnh 'như các quốc gia' và có chính sách của riêng họ.

[chuvanangalaxy]

(BBC) In June 2007, under pressure from China, the British Petroleum Corporation British Petroleum (BP) has stopped the exploration seismic surveys in the Nam Con Son (Vietnam) before the project officially withdrew from this survey in March 2009.

Last week, the upstream part (in charge of exploration activities) of the BP officially hand over the work, property and personnel in Vietnam to the Russian giant TNK after 21 years of presence in Vietnam.

[chuvanangalaxy]

Hồi tháng 6/2007, dưới áp lực của Trung Quốc, Tập đoàn dầu khí Anh British Petroleum (BP) đã ngừng việc thăm dò khảo sát địa chấn tại Nam Côn Sơn trước khi chính thức rút khỏi dự án thăm dò này vào tháng 3/2009.

Tuần qua, bộ phận upstream (phụ trách các hoạt động thăm dò) của BP đã chính thức bàn giao công việc, tài sản và nhân viên ở Việt Nam cho tập đoàn TNK của Nga sau 21 năm hiện diện tại Việt Nam.

[knightslucky]

side Asean what this in Multy-bay-lateral solution a Peace Solution... i think Asean and China is not that Selfish side Every Nation Have there Law to Feed there People and Defend there territory. let's make a Better and Peaceful Solution. and the unfortunately the US is Always There because of the Philippines.. Philippines is the Best Ally of US since ww2 so you cant take that part that the US will always Connecting to the Philippines but Philippines have Independent Government and people.

[knightslucky]

Philippines Have Mutual Defence Treaty on US if the US is on war the Philp. is Required to Give Support in US what ever kind of Support that Philp. Can Give and Vice Versa but US have Mutual Defence Treaty on Japan and S.Korea so if Philippines go to unfortunate battle and because of MDT the US will Send Help and now the US is at the Battle so the US will use the MDT of Japan and S.Korea,so Japan and S.Korea Will Help US but S. Korea is been neutral because of the North so Japan and US will do

[chineseheart]

Vietanm and China has signed up to ensure South China Sea dispute do not become an obstacle btw the dev of both countries..

So no more noise and US stay out , peace will be forever.

[etoile8848]

Lets remove the "SOUTH CHINA SEA" we better put "PARCEL AND SPRATLY SEA"

because PARCEL and SPRATLY ISLANDS belongs to VIETNAM,PHILIPPINE and MALAYSIA , NOT TO CHINA !

[ermejoderoma999]

YES THOSE iSLANDS BELONGS TO ASEAN! not to damn china!

[ywintube]

@ermejoderoma999 Ancient Chinese sailed this part of the sea since ~1000 years ago, the long stretch of islets and coral reefs were known to them as " ten thousand miles long sandy islets or 万里长沙 in Chinese“. ASEAN didn't exist then, and their people were still living in tribal society except vietnam which was ruled or influenced by the Chinese. For your info, the largest island and the only one with fresh water to support life in Spratly, is controlled by Republic of China, now Taiwan ROC.

[knightslucky]

@ywintube excuse me? history in Ancient Time? what about the ancient Kingdom of Brunei (Borneo) the Sultanate of Sulu the Kingdom of Tundun (tondo) the Mai Empire the Visayan Empire ect. Sultanate, Empire and kingdoms of Asean Country, ok China Wrote those island to their Ancient book but What about the People who really living on it Philippines Has a Official Local Government on it the Barangay Pagasa in the Municipality of Kalayaan Province of Palawan Republic of Philippines

[knightslucky]

@knightslucky more that 200 Villiers living cropping farming fertilizing and Fishing those island by People of Baragay Pag-asa not like others Specially China they only have Military Base one time a reporter interview a fisher man of Pag-asa and he say are you lucky if Vietnamese catch you. Vietnamese are kind to us if our cause-guard is not around ( Philippine Cause-guard) thy patrolling close to our territory so thy can see us. your dead if China Ship See you a Warning Shot will be see

[ywintube]

@knightslucky How old were those empires you qouted? I know the Malacca sultanate in today's Malacca state of Malaysia was ~500 years old, that's when the Chinese Admiral Zheng He( or Cheng Ho ) fleet visited and offered protection against the invading Siamese from the north.

Please let me know which are the crops grown in these atoll islands with no fresh water supply? coconut trees?

[knightslucky]

@ywintube Even if thy living in tribal the Sultanate is not recording book's for there history but the Empire of Mai and and Kingdom of Tundu of the Philippines is Recorded to the Song Empire. I know the Largest is in the Hand of ROC but Pag-Asa Island is have a 200 Civilian Resident. hahaha even the Largest island you say controlled by ROC is don't have any Civilian thy only have a Military out post and Soldier

[knightslucky]

@ywintube Philippines is Rule by datus, rajahs, or sultans. those days and the oldest recorded book are recorded by China our Ancestor even thy have Alphabets thy know how to Write or to Read thy not Recoding History the Kingng Dom of Tundo Recorded in Dynasty (Ming Shilu Annals) kingdom of tundu send a Envoy and Philippines Kingdoms and Sultanates is a Traders of Tang and Song Dynastiy

[knightslucky]

@ywintube and first recorded People of the philippines is in Palawan Area or the Closes Island of the Philippine in Spratlys whit only 88 nautical miles the Malayo-Polynesians coming from Taiwan began migrating to the Philippines around 4000 BCE and thy set successfully a Sultanate and take the Islam culture and they coordinating to there sultan in Sulu about 1000 BCE and to the Sultanate of Borneo

[ywintube]

@knightslucky So your ancient history was not recorded as the the tribal society lacks written ability?

Since when your 200 civilians moved to these unihabital atoll islands and how they get fresh water supply? Are they refugees/ involuntary migrants?

[knightslucky]

@ywintube am in history Thy Refuse to Write there Culture because of there Tradition thy want There Culture to be Remember on Saying it of passing history by Story. am thy have frees water even in Desert my Friend you can see a Location and Dig Dig Dig to make a Water Well these Island is surrounded bay Water and you can do Distillation, Reverse Osmosis, Electrolysis, and the Very Common one Desalination. but Spratlys is For all We need only our government to talk peacefully

[ywintube]

@knightslucky Your english is funny, some phrases do not make sense. Are you using google's translation?

Desalination, reverse osmosis, electrolysis? wow these are expensive hi-tech stuff ? I guess those 200 civilians must be well to do people. Why they chose to live there? as resort homes? By what are the crops grown by them?

[knightslucky]

@ywintube am no im not using Google Translation English is not my First Language and im Still Studding it. hummm Australia Using Desalination and you can Desalinate in a Small Desalination Plant.. a mini-desalination plant, was now install since 2007 like the one US use in Afghanistan and Iraq and now at Pag-asa Island === Thitu Island = == about Corps you can Dig a Canal or Irrigation Canal so the Salty water my Desalt a simple Mangroves Trees Will Do to make the Desalting to those Canal

[chuvanangalaxy]

The actions of China recently madeclear strategy "takes out" their South China Sea.

They harassed other countries do not allow economic exploitation in the waters of the Paracel Islands, Spratly Islands, while they are there to oil drilling.

It is considered a conspiracy to expand on the sea in the direction of "spreading oil stain" to where China will be appropriated by all the tricks from politics to economics an attempt to isolate the country in dispute with China, most is for Vietnam.

[ywintube]

@chuvanangalaxy I don't think China had drilled oil in this disputed waters as what you said; if I am not mistaken, Vietnam has drilled oil and earned billions of dollars to pay for its submarines bills from Russia.

[YuDumPhuck]

@ywintube Vietnam drilled oil in its ''EXCLUSIVE ECONOMIC ZONE''; the end tip of Vietnam. Never in the disputed areas Paracel or Spratly Islands. While China drilled in the disputed areas. So you need to get your facts straight. DUMB FUCK CHINK!!!

[ywintube]

@YuDumPhuck Your name already telling others you are a real YouDumbFuck! Drilling at the end tip of EEZ- in risk of crossing the line to siphon out the reserve pool- very cunning but risky move and certainly a price to pay if gone out of hand.

[YuDumPhuck]

@ywintube My username applies to dumb fuck like you.  Vietnam drills at the end tip of Vietnam, Ca Mau province. Go google ''CA MAU PROVINCE'' and see where it is. Since you're at it google ''Vietnamese Oil Fields'' and see if they're in or outside Vietnamese's EEZ. You despicable chink parasites always speak with a mouth full of shit!!! Now eat my shit DUMB FUCK!!!!

[ywintube]

@YuDumPhuck YouDumbFuck, the world knows Vietgooks have been parasiting others all this while: aids from China and Soviets when fighting the French and the americans, aids to viet refugees after the vietnam war and even now still depending on aids for developments! I say the world should stop giving them aids, as it is obvious that they are diverting the money to buy weapons and threatening the weaker Asean neighbors.

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube You "conveniently" have 'selective history". By helping North Vietnam, u helped urself, too. Half of the Vietnamese didn't even want this "kind" gesture of yours which eventually made them become refugees. Thank u very much! Tens of millions of Chinkroaches escaped to everywhere in the world like parasites to avoid communism before. Vietnam herself took in 2 millions Chinkroaches in 1949. Last, u didn't receive aids from many much-smaller nations like a giant beggar in the past 30 yrs?

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Oh my! Who is threatening the weaker Asean neighbors ? Give me a non-Chinkroach controlled media that says Vietnam is threatening neighbors with their newly-bought weapons? But I can throw at you 100 articles from every country that says Chinkroaches are the potential threat of all. Why do u think they need assurance from the US that the US won't leave Asia? and so far the US has committed to stay. Why do u think the US "concerns" about the South China Sea issue?

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname #Why do u think the US "concerns" about the south china Sea issue#

Simple answer indeed: US is interested in the oil beneath the sea, and selling the soon to be outdated arsenal to you guys so that she could save her runaway economy. You are in US, and I m pretty sure you saw Obama in live TV not long ago appealling to increase the debt ceiling limit so as to pay the bills due, otherwise he might have to cut your social security expenses, isn't it?

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Oh my, the US wanted to rob the oil? LOL. Asean nations are begging her to stay to rob the oil? LOL. Even if they buy US arms, I don't think with a few billions of sale the US can change her situation. It's not like WW. It's like a drop of water into an empty bucket. It's all about politics, my friend. The US has militarily dominated Asia and the Pacific region for so long, China thinks it's time the US should leave and leave the region for her to "handle" and to expanse her influence

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname If not mistaken, Obama administration announced not too long ago that they are coming back to this region, this means US has not been active for sometime, probably since the Vietnam War? Only Phillipines and Vietnam beg US interference , not all "Asean nations are begging her to stay..." as what you put it. Read my comment again, did I say " US wanted to rob the oil?" as what you had said?

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube No no, for a while the US were focusing on the Middle East with 2 wars, Asia was quiet and peaceful, so it was neglected even though the US military has always been present in Asia thru time. Until recently the region was heated up with China coming into the scene. The US was waken up & realized this region is as important as the Middle East, it's her "national interest" & she can't afford to lose it to somebody else. Notice the US Navy has been quite busy with activities lately?

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Vietnam and the Philippines just happen to be in conflict with China. Maybe except Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos have no opinions, the rest pretty much prefer the US' continuous present over China's. The top US officials have several times confirmed their commitment in SEA at recent dialogs. Did u hear what Admiral Mike Mullen said while he was in China? A meeting of Naval officials from Asean members was also held recently.

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname That's your view, but most people see US is interferring in this region on the pretext of free passage of international waters.

What do you mean " she can't afford to lose it to somebody else"? Are you say US own this region?lol!

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Of course, that's another excuse for the US to interfere in the region in order to contain China's expansion. Taiwan has always been a bargaining chip. It's all about politics. India should be the US's strongest ally in the Middle East.

Stupid, do u understand political meaning? The US doesn't own the region physically. "Lose it" means losing their influence and dominance in SEA and East Asia. Like the US "owns" NATO.

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname nonsense excuses! Pls use the right vocab/ words, isn't English your first language? Please tell the Europeans that US "owns" NATO and see what's their reaction.

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Either u like it or not and think those are non-sense excuses, the US will always find an excuse to poke in. Btw, if not the US, who do u think is the dominant member of NATO? The other guys are just "helpers" when the US decides to strike someone. LOL

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname "owns" and "dominant" carry the same meaning in your dictionary?LOL.

I am done with you.

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube No, it's not in my dictionary. It's a common American way of speech. U don't physically own, u virtually own, u hold their souls. In political aspect, USSR owned half of Europe; in cultural and linguistic aspect, China owns Japan, Korea, Vietnam; in monetary aspect, US currency owns the world; somebody emotionally depends on u, u own his soul. Many Chinese blah blah blah they own the US (in bonds). If u still disagree with me, it's OK. I understand your limitation in English.

[ywintube]

@ivycoolname you 'own' your bullshit logics!

[ivycoolname]

@ywintube Haha...I expected that from ya. Here it is, to be objective, I'm gonna give u one more proof from a third party to prove to u that it's not just my own bullshit logic. Go to Google and type in "who owns America", then see how many articles from native- English speakers who uses the word "own". But we all know it doesn't mean "physically own". I'm done :-)

[chineseheart]

@ivycoolname

You have some valid points.. that is an American game.... perception and reality are virtually 2 totally scenarios. Ppl are deceived to be made to beleive what they like to beleive.

Yes, US$ still owns the money market, US military still dominate the world, US controls many countries..

But US has lost on moral ground, US has given up righteousness for American interests.... and that will one day lead to chaos and unrest ....inside USA.

[YuDumPhuck]

@ywintube By the way pay attention to punctuation and learn how to read properly next time.

[ywintube]

@YuDumPhuck ha.ha..a YouDumbFuck trying to be an expert in English!

[tsunas12]

Do you know that in China, people cant use Google. So they cant find information outside the world. The Chinese are brainwashed by their goverment.

[ywintube]

@tsunas12 Don't be foolish, there was no Google in the past, but people still can get information via other means. You will be surprised that the nettizens in China may be more knowlegeble than you.

[tsunas12]

@ywintube You're such a fool. Do you know exactly what i mean? Can you explain why informations in China is always wrong, alway different than what others knew. You see imformations, you see news... but that was all edited or that is your goverment want you to see. Back to the topic. The VN has all the proof by paper, map from hundred years ago. It show that Paracel Islands, Spratly Islands - belongs to VietNam

[ywintube]

@tsunas12 read your comment again, you said "Do you knnow that in China, people cant use Google. so they cant find information outside the world." What a sweeping statement!

[tsunas12]

Is there any proof to show that Spratly island belong to China? All anouncement is valueless if there is no proof by paper, map or picture. Vietnam has all the proof, and Spratly island definitely belong to Vietnam.

[raymond1457]

tingnan nio sa mapa kung alin ang pinakamalapit,,,,,,wala ng iba kungdi sa pinas lang yan..mga mang aagaw mayaman na kayo d na kayo naawa >>

[ttiger500]

China dare to take on Asean countries now!! United you stand divided you fall my fellow men....

[ywintube]

@ttiger500 China dares to take on anyone threatening her security/ territorial integrity as evidenced by:

-the Korean war against US and allies, the northern border clash with Russia, western border skirmishes with India, supporting Vietcongs fighting agaisnt the French and later US in vietnam war; but these were things of the past and now the disputed parties should negotiate to find an amicable solution. Otherwise, you will end up as loser, either destroyed or bankcrutp cos of war debts.

[thekissinger1972]

China is the ringleader empire for peaceful peoples all over the world in the 21st century.Its friendly announcement is actions of deceit world opinion & in order to attract weak & poor countries in the world.Wicked,cupidity & evil intentions of its has unmasked & exposed it’s deceitful & hypocritical face.We should dig out the tomb of Deng Xiao Ping,let chirlden shit & and then feed that mixture to all members of Chinese leaders.

[chuvanangalaxy]

Three U.S. Navy ships arrived Friday (July 15th, 2011) - as welcome guests - at the Vietnamese port of Da Nang VN, is part of a seven-day celebration of the 16th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two former enemies.

The 7th Fleet delegation consists of the guided-missile destroyers USS Chung-Hoon and USS Preble, the rescue and salvage ship USNS Safeguard, additional sailors from the Logistics Group Western Pacific command, and a mobile diving and salvage team

[ywintube]

Very funny, ignorant remarks also received "ups"? crazy...

[dansky03]

PARACEL belongs to VIETNAM!! and SPRATLY belongs to the PHILIPPINES!!n please vietnam and CHINA!! respect the international law... UNCLOS ..territorial water within 200 nautical miles.. :)) just respect..

[knightslucky]

@dansky03 hummm Parcel is Belog to Vietnam my be right but Spratly Belong to the Philippines? hummm in historical basis Philippines dint own Spratlys but in Historical Basis Philippines Migrant People after WW2 set a Government sit in spratlys because Spratlys Isl is Abandon by that time by other country so Kalayaan Island become Baraggay (Small Village European Medieval Time,,,Pueblo in Spanish) and that Baranggay Formally become part of the Province of Palawan. so Philippines star the Clme

[westox1149]

@dansky03 You are right thats belongs to Phils Archepelagic and is within our territorial sea refer UNCLOS EZZ laws of sea 200nautical miles from baseline.

[TOYBUCKO]

VIETNAMESE AND CHINESE MUST FOLLOW THE UNCLOS

this show how rich the philippine thats why other country is interested in our land

WE GIVE SABAH AND SABAH IS ENOUGH

[knightslucky]

@TOYBUCKO actually Philippines Dint Give Sabah As off Now Shaba is belong to the Philippines Take a look on any Map of the Philippines.. they Always Include Sabah But in the Map Say Shaba Malaysia Right. Sorry For my English.... Malaysia Pay Yearly Rent To the Sultan of Sulu for Sabah and the Sulu is belong to the Philippines the Sultan of Sulu is Recognize as a Philippine official for Sulu Sabah Rental fee a very low fee M$5,000 (HK$10,250)

[chuvanangalaxy]

The move came after the Philippine Permanent Delegation to the UN on April 5 addressed a diplomatic note to the UN chief to reject the “U-shaped line” claim of China, and the Chinese Permanent Delegation to the UN on April 14 sent a diplomatic note to the UN Secretary General to express its opinions on the Philippine delegation’s diplomatic note.

(tuoitrenews)

[chuvanangalaxy]

The Permanent Delegation of Vietnam to the United Nations made the statement in Diplomatic Note No. 77/HC-2011 it sent to the UN Secretary General on May 3, saying that: Vietnam has once again affirmed that it has sufficient historical and legal evidence to prove its sovereignty over the Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagos, are an integral part of Vietnamese territory.

(tuoitrenews)

[chuvanangalaxy]

　中越两国近几十年交织经历了朋友和敌人的复杂关系，但凡以战争方­式解决领土争端，越南都失败了。现在是中国以理性的态度与越南处­理海上摩擦，这不仅是中国自己的台阶，也是越南的台阶。如果越南­一定要折腾，以为越折腾就能得到越多的好处，那我们确实要提醒越­南的政策制定者们：请你们一起读一读历史吧。

(环球时报)

[MyV3i]

@chuvanangalaxy r u saying that China has to use war to solve the territorial disputes?

[chuvanangalaxy]

"Intertwined in recent decades, China and Vietnam experienced a complex relationship between friends and enemies, it comes to war to resolve territorial disputes in Vietnam have failed. Now China and Vietnam in a rational manner the friction at sea, this is not only China's own level, but also the Vietnam level. If the Vietnamese have to toss, the more frustrating that can get more benefits, then we really have to remind policy makers in Vietnam: Please read your history with it."

(Global Times)

[kjbf976]

China wants us to BUY its products, but China takes our land resources by guns for FREE!!!

China's Natural Habit of Aggression is a great peril to its neighbors & the World! Now China brings its aggression to its close neighbors like Vietnam and The Phillipines. Your motherland will be the NEXT victims of China’s aggression, my friends! It is clearly that China will continue its expansionism until there is not a single independent nation left! BOYCOTT/Don’t buy Products “MADE In China”!

[kabarkada18]

They really cant understand....Philippines owns the islands that they are occupying,Its in phils EEZ....in june 14 china will send its oil rig in spratly island 80km from palawan,AND it will start.

[stopjehbahl]

Can you guys enlighten me why china has claims to spratlys again? It is so far from their nearest coast... I think it should be shared among asean members

[chuvanangalaxy]

@stopjehbahl

A big country just because the national interests of their own that overwhelm the interests of neighboring countries, then it is not allowed.

We are Asians, we understand very well the "rules of reason - the results." Our conflicts and disputes caused long-term implications for life today. As well as in history, the concept of "big fish eat little fish" can not be the trend of human progress, but otherwise it is a barrier to all countries that are raising ambitions.

[Vkid1412]

@stopjehbahl : Simply because they can. I mean, the problem is all nations who have claims probably can work out a deal if they all sit down on a multilateral talk, but no, China always insists it has to be "bi-lateral", so the Chinese government can individually pee on every one of those country into submission.

[chuvanangalaxy]

@Vkid1412 :

China must be officially declared over on the scope of claims in the South China Sea and the "ambiguity" of Beijing is "serious concern" in the international maritime community, as well as offensive problems for countries in ASEAN.

(Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs - MFA)

[ywintube]

@stopjehbahl When ancient chinese discovered and sailed the south china sea ~thousand years ago, your ancestors were still living in a tribal society inlands or utmost playing around with small boats near your shoreline. The Chinese Admiral Zheng He of Ming dynasty ruled this sea on behalf of his Majesty and sailed as far to the South African shores well before the spanish arrived in Pillippines ~80 years later. They lost it to the western colonial powers~200 years ago.

[stopjehbahl]

@ywintube So are you saying that tribal Malays from the Philippines were living in the Spratly's even before Chinese Admiral Zheng He discovered it? Therefore it is the territory of that tribal society.. not China's.. And if your rhetoric would be that discovery then China will not stop until it has expanded to South Africa? Ridiculous...

[ywintube]

@stopjehbahl Yes, the Malay may be there, but their small boats definitely couldn't venture into the rough sea.

[stopjehbahl]

@ywintube Well you know, be that as it may, I understand you are trying to lay down the facts here. And it is inarguable that China has had strong naval power even in the ancient times, even having reached the coast of California before the Europeans did. I must stress however that jurisdiction over a territory and rights to claim it cannot be based upon military might but that of the right to sovereignty of its earliest dwellers and territorial distance.

[ywintube]

@stopjehbahl Agreed to your argument. The territorial rights was robbed at gun point hundred years ago when China was in its darkest day. So the claim is justified. Imagine if you are robbed, you can claim back your lost items when found by police later, right?

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

When our ancestor sail in Southeast asia sea from more than 2000 years ago,your chinese still lived in yellow river.Shame on you!

We are first and unique country have navy group lived and exploited Paracel islands and spratly islands under Nguyen Dynasty in some moths every years from 300 years ago.We have sovereignty in all of Paracel islands and part of Spratly islands under claim in 1952 in Sanfracisco and under UNCLOS 1982

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 Yes, 2000 years ago, the Chinese emperor were living in the Yellow river basin, but his army/official was in today's north vietnam, then known as "Jiaozhi province of Qin and the later Han dynasty. About 300 years ago, the Qing emperor of China accorded the name "vietnam" meaning "South of YUE" at your king's request. Vietnam then known as "Annam", was a protectorate state of China. Please note "YUE" is the acroname for Guangdong till today.

[chuvanangalaxy]

@ywintube

"Vietnam and China have a very long history.

In Its autonomy 1000 years, Vietnamese has taken the reconciliation is important.

Only when we was invaded, then we take up arms to defensive.

It can be said, the attitude of our ancestors is very wise and transparent."

(Duong Trung Quoc - Vietnam's historian - BBC)

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

In 300 years ago, Manchuria invaded successfully CHina, destroyed Ming Dynasty, forced CHinese became slave of MAnchurian under Quing dynasty(Manchurian). While Vietnamese defeated 200 000 QUing troops with victory of emperor Quang Trung.

In 300 years ago,Vietnam is first and unique country have navy group lived and exploited Paracel islands ans Spratly islands in some months every years under order of Nguyen Dynasty.

Every map of CHina to Quing dynasty even not draw SOuth CHina sea

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Don't mention to Guangdong to me.Guangdong people is only slave of MAndarin

PARACEL ISLANDS BELONGS TO VIETNAM

SPRATLY ISLANDS BELONGS TO VIETNAM AND PHILIPINE

SHAME SHAME CHINESE INVADER!

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 You are either ignorant or stupid, Guangdong is a province, and Mandarin referred by the west as the Chinese officially language, and I am pretty sure you do not know how the word "Mandarin" came about. I came across a comment asking you to visit Guangdong and see it yourself instead of sitting infront of a computer and barks like a mad dog!

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Really? I know Guangdong have Cantonese,hakka,tewchow.Right?

I know more than you think.And I know many Cantonese angry because they have not right to learn Cantonese in School.And I think they are now "slave" of Mandarin

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 you are biased, the repeated slogan used like 'Shame Chinese invader", "Chinese lies" "slave of mandarin"...bla..bla.. are typical of viets' brain washed propaganda! You better play a recorded slogan the next time you are on the street.

why are you still using "Baiyue" username, since you dislike the Chinese and call them liar, mind you that word was coined by ancient Chinese.

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Western call "CHina" why you use China of Western.Perhaps you have to call "Zhong guok" right?

We are still Bai Yue and call ourselves is Yue,have story about this. And Chinese call Yue as we admit.

HAve some kind of Yue in SOuth Yangzi river and all is Bai Yue

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

CHinese invaded Tibet,Inner Mongolia,Uyghur land, Paracel islands-> you are invader

Chinese brainwashed Chinese citizen in mainland,lies to the world-> you are liar

Cantonese have not right learn Cantonese in school-> Cantonese is slave of MAndarin

CHinese can't access Youtube, why you can? Or you are secret police of MAndarin?Shame on you!

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 Ignorantia no excusez.. Those lands you mentioned belong to China, look at the Map of Qing dynasty and ROC China before WWII.

Why are you still using "Baiyue"as your username?, you are a copy cat indeed, qoute" Shame on you" unqoute.

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Manchuria from North invaded China,destroyed Ming dynasty,forced CHinese become slave .After that Quing invaded other country as Mongolia,Uyghur,Tibet but it is not prove that those land belongs to China.Understand?

When Quing collapse, New CHina was born.All of them have independent ,is independent country.And Chinese uner new China in 20th century when have international law ,have UN still invaded other country,make genocide from Tibet,Inner Mongolia,Uyghur all painful by CHinese.

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 I don't blame you for your small brain which can't figure out the complexity of Chinese history: the manchurians after ruling 300 years in China have eventually assimilated into the chinese society; they are Chinese now, a term used by the west in general for people from China. They are not the first, and will not be the last as the society is evolving in accordance to time and needs.

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

yeah yeah, every one can say many American has origin from Germany or England...but have not any one say America is Germany or England

Similarity, Manchurian was assimilated by Chinese but history is history, Manchuria has origin different from CHinese.And the most important Quing dynasty is not CHinese dynasty.And China is only part of QUing emperor when Quing was found by Manchurian.

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 You are talking nonsense: childish arguement!

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Why China so afraid google,youtube,ha ha ha

Because Chinese is liar so CHinese afraid true.And you are Chinese!

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 Why should China as a sovereign state afraid of Google and youtube? Childish mentality! There are more to meet your eyes. I am done with your brain washed propaganda, ok?

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

China replace youtube by youku,ha ha ha.fake

Chinese banned google.

And unique you can access internet without "chinese firewall" is Hong kong. But I doubt that Hong Kong will be come last victim of mainland or of Mandarin.ha ha ha

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

If say as you "English have right in all of ocean in earth because they sailed in all of them"

Shame on chinese liar.

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 you like to call 'chinese liar' and I don't blame you: either you have been cheated by bad apple or because of your tiny brain with limited vocabs,comprehension and knowledge as seen in your spat with others. Go back to school and learn more about who coined the word "Baiyue", and "Vietnam", "Annam" ,"Jiaozhi" and their related history!

The british still ruled Falkland islannds which is a few thousand miles from their home land, do you know that?

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

Vietnamese always call our country in past is "Dai Yue-big country of Viet(Yue) because we always proud to be descendant of Bai Yue people.Understand?

Only Chinese call "An Nam",we are not like it.

Falkland story was quoted by many chinese as way chinese defense for their invasion.

But you should remember we are Vietnamese

Only 1cm land or sea which you rob and invaded, we will take back though we have to die.

Shame on Chinese invader and liar and copier.

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 Fine for me what ever name viets want to call themself and stop using "Baiyue" as your acroname since it was coined by ancient Chinese.

[music666able]

belongs to philippines 80 miles close to palawan ..

[chuvanangalaxy]

我们已经并将继续团结。

我们将克服分歧。

我们实施多边解决的问题。

我们需要在尊重独立的权利的基础上共同生活的和平与发展。

所有问题上的理解基础上加以解决，相互信任是该地区和平发展的基­础。

仅仅因为一个大国对自己的压倒邻国的利益，国家利益，那么它是不­允许的。

[chuvanangalaxy]

We have and will unite.

We will overcome disagreements.

We implement multilateral settlement issues.

We need peace and development independently on the basis of respect for the right to live together.

All problems are solved on the basis of understanding, mutual trust is the foundation for peaceful development of the region.

A big country just because the national interests of their own that overwhelm the interests of neighboring countries, then it is not allowed.

[VN188]

@serenityplace128,

In the past, China was a part of Mongol Empire, Manchus & Japan. Can Mongol Empire, Manchus & Japan take China land now? Of course not.

The same as Vietnam was a part of China before, of course, China can not take Vietnam land now.

[MrNothing45]

@serenityplace128 WTF? Are Chinese people not able to speak English? lol. Vietnam is never a colony of China. Vietnam is a independent country. If your teacher has taught you that Vietnam is always a colony of China, i think he/she may be crazy, very very crazy. And pls tell him/her that i advised him/her to go to a doctor. Lol.

[ywintube]

@MrNothing45 North Vietnam was under Chinese rule since 2000 years ago until ~980AD, and later became a protectorate state of China until the French took over. As such Viets has been under Chinese influence, especially traditions and culture, alot of similarities but with some local variations. If you want to read ancient vietnamese history scipts, you must equip with old chinese language knowledge or you can get help from Taiwanese Chinese as they are still using it.

[MrNothing45]

@ywintube I don't want to talk with silly people any more. Every people all around the world know what the truth is, except the Chinese. Don't comment any more times, i don't care. =; Ok? :-w

[BAIYUE1]

@ywintube

But 5000 years ago to 2000 years ago( in 3000 years), Vietnamese still have owner kingdom Xich Quy kingdom,Van Lang kingdom, Nam Viet kingdom

We still can gain independent in 1000 years under Han,Tang ruled.

From 1000 years ago to now we always kick ass chinese invader.And we always proud to be Vietnamese, proud to be descendant of great Bai Yue( Luo Yue,Ou Yue,Nan Yue,Min Yue,..)

[ywintube]

@BAIYUE1 You better check your haplogroup to make sure you are proud to be the decendant of Baiyue as through out th history of China, when there was a abrupt change of rulers, a lot of people, particularly the political refugees moved south or overseas to avoid prosecution. You may be a crossbreed of these refugees, don't make a fool out of yourself, ok?

[trinhngocde]

Sino's ever announced that its rise will not be harmful to any countries in the world but in fact it is quite the reverse.I don't protest against expansion & disputation of Sino in Asean sea.Its expansion orginates from thirst of oil and gas.However Sino's trepass on territorial waters of Vietnam within 200 miles is unacceptable actions.It is actions of invasion.Sino is pursuing the wild ambition of world hegenomy.Sino will be hated all over the world.

[MrNothing45]

Paracel Islands & Spratly Islands belong to Vietnam!

[bertongsiga018]

@MrNothing45 wow!!!really??as if youre claiming that the whole island is yours?wheres your proff???the only thing that can resolve this is through unclos!!do you know what unclos is???

[FAllingMemories25]

@MrNothing45 paracel islands belong to vietnam BUT the spratly islands is belong to the philippines bcoz is obviously near in the philippines... so to the chinese people out there stop claiming the islands!