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its basaidai wich most larger karate styles have. but i still tend to belive its tenshinkan because he bends he's b back leg a bit. if i'm not mistaken they do that in their basadai. but i could be wrong, hvent got to basadai yet, only trained for a year and a half now...
I got MY blue Belt i hated rembering all the words for the Basic punchs kicks and stands >> O well i quite after that Sen sai Qutie being a sen sei O well now im rambeling on. Viedo was good
Good stances but poor technique on the strikes, no hip movement so no power, good speed tho, also a lot of the moves look shortcutted to me, but then again I don't train this style :)
Hei. What kind of karate is this? I train Shotokan Karate, and we have the kata bassai dai as well. If this is the shotokan kata Bassai dai, it's at least not the JKA way, and it doesn't look like shotokan at all.
in my style kyu-shin-do we do have katas as well, not like that though, and we do that as well as real life situations like on the street too so a gd blend
i have no idea what that kata was coz i ent that good (yet) however that was really cool!!
Gelsamel Kata is there to improve your technique... not to teach real life situations and that is understood by the practioner. I've had plenty of real life situations through out my 9 years of karate and have always come out on top.
Is there any point in your karate training where you don't do training based on 3-move/2-move/1-move patterns or sparring where it is no-holds-barred? If you haven't then you've been programmed. Shinkyokushin you can't kick the knees, well guess what everyone is going to kick your knees in real life. A kick to the head wins a sparring match, well guess what in real life a kick to the head off-balances you and if you don't manage to knock them out (if it hits) then you're screwed anyway.
Nothing like being programmed in karate. Ever notice how self-defense classes don't go through kata or patterns because they're just programming. In a real life situation you're going to do stupid things you shouldn't be doing because of the programming.
u guys are idiots...this is the kata called Bassai dai, but it is the second form of bassai dai because there's two! So this one is different from the other one. And the guy ain't a blue belt...he's a black belt in japan, but when competing the states, the japanese usually have to wear a red or blue belt to indicate which person is which...idiots
It looks good with mainly sharp and tidy teckniques, its not easy doing it in front of the Judges either, iv done it and its quite nerve racking. Well done to the guy.
This dude is probably a 5th Kyu, notice the blue belt. That Kata looks very similar to Bassai-dai, a Kata from G.K.R style, this might be the original Shotokan kata however. I Reckon it looks pretty good.
All kata forms look great when well performed, even the relatively linear ones like the teikyokus, heians and tekis (did I spell those right?). I think this dude needs a little more kime in his moves but, fair enough for a 3rd or 2nd kyu, I'd give him an 8/10.
Yes, sure... If you dont know about karate, do not comment! That performance takes years of training with the best "Masters"! In my club, we have blackbelts that is worse than that, and we are one of the best clubs in Denmark. We even have a World Championship winner! I dont know much about karate either, just Taekwondo, but thats good and fast techniques! Maybe not perfect, but much better than very many.
AFF RIDUCULO... KARATE EH UMA MERDA!!! KUNG FU EH 100000000x MAIS IRADO! (e esse kata do karate soh nao eh pior do q o heian shodan (1º kata do shotokan) - sei la como se escreve essa merda... ¬¬ -
A shitoryu version of Bassai Dai. A must-pass for shodan. Literally the name means "taking enemy's stronghold". His performance is ok--all movements are correct. What's lacking is the power and spirit to subdue the opponent.
It's Passai Dai-performed probably by GMaster Fusei Kise's grand. A tournament version of Shorin Ryu Matsumura Seito Passai Dai. His rank is close to green belt. I didn't look that good at that rank-still don't!
Upright stances r classic Matsumura Shorin Ryu. Deeper stances have GM Kise's Shorin Ji influence.
It's funny that so many people think that this is a good example of a well-performed Kata as I use this clip as evidence of how Kata should NOT be done. The purpose of a Kata is not just to get perfect movement and precise form, it is to practice as if there was an opponent attacking you. None of the blocks or strikes in this Kata would be very useful in that context.
This Bassai Dai may be the JKA Style kata. Being a Blackbelt Shodan level in Kyodai Karate-Do... I definitely recognize it but its very different from Kenkojuku style of kata that I practice. Overall, sharp movements, the stances were ok and the timing was very.. off.. wheres the Karate-Do spirit? The strength? The power that one is supposed to show when doing a Kata such as this?
nice, real nice, im in karate 2, i won 1st plac wen i wuz a wite blt,my mastr made me go 2 tournamnt erly, anywyz, dats som nice stf u got der ^_^ KY-AH!!!
Shito-Ryu - Basai dai. This is an aesthetically pleasing kata when performed well. This is an ok example of this. As a competition kata it could do with a litle more focus and sharpness in the combinations. All the basic elements are there just need to keep practising! I believe the blue(au) belt the karateka is wearing denotes which competitor he is and not his grade in this WKF rules competition. Red (aka) is worn by the competitor he is against.
good try... bassai dai unless i'm majorly mistaken?... there's alot of spirit in there but ive gotta say i agree with knarfster.. i can't really picture the bunkai involved considering the high stances and extra-long movements between techniques
Wierd seeing another style (non-shotokan) do Bassai-Dai. Seems like a lot of extraneous movement (waste of energy) in the light stances. I would like to see their (whatever style this is) bunkai for this Kata.
Mind you kata was made in feudal times when teaching/training to fight was outlawed by invaders/warlords like owning weapons was. They might meet someone while traveling, and just show each other a new kata. It was quick minddump training, and could be practiced later, and doesn't look enough like fighting. The application of kata to fighting (bunkai) looks totally different.
omg, in karate we do this kata, but actually more complex, and it's only our red belt kata, which is the grade before brown belt. Is this their black belt kata? or an earlier grade kata? We call it bas-ei-dei I don't know if that's the spelling, but it sounds like the name lol. If it is their black belt, than their karate can't be as hard as ours. The guy is still pretty good though.
Kata is the language of karate. Being able to recite that language is good, but does not mean that you truly understand it. It does not matter how many forms you can perform, a truly great practitioner has a deep understanding of each kata, and the multiple applications of every move. Some of the most difficult karate styles have the fewest number of katas.
Excellent, truly excellent! As for the kata version itself, I like the Shotokan better, as it shows more dynamics and hip action, but this performer makes the most of this version of the kata. Kudos and keep up the great work!
That's true yeah. It all comes down to being able to read your aponent's body-language and choose the right attacking tool for each vital spot. Sometimes The different martial art dosn't matter it's out-smarting your aponent.
On the other hand, sometimes one martial art dominates the other. EG: TKD vs Kickboxing....A kickboxer's guard is usually protecting his/her head, completely neglecting the stomach. A full-force side kick is sure to do some damage.
At the same time though, the kickboxer focuses more on agression. A sudden attack sprung on a tkd practitioner would possibly have an affect. So sometimes the martial art is better in its own way. All martial arts have at least on fault.
Hmm.. this guy, his kata had good form, but I didn't seem to see much Strength as such? i know not everyone can be totally built.. but he had the skill, just not the .. power? Also, the second half looked very similar to Kata Bassai Dai, from my go kan ryu style
this guy is good,but Kata helps too, I both spar and compete in tournaments and kata helps me remember to do the right execute of strikes and apply it in some fights. We cant just underestimate some katas, just like shaolin kungfu they have there own way of kata, and they fight good. Even muay thai itself has own its own kata...
your right thats why kata were invented so as to remember your fighting drills thats one of the reasons most styles have them,when people only train in fighting they are not
training in karate,karate is much more than fighting,think about this, its harder not to hit someone than it it is to hit them
kata is for physicaly and mental training to strenghtne your stance and attacks, but in a fight its pointless, stick with basics and your sparring experiance
Kata is karate,everything you need is in Kata you only have to look a little deeper to understand,if you dont understand you are not doing karate,find a goodteacher.real karateka dont spar they dont need too
In my opinion I think you are wrong because if you look at good fighters in competition, when it comes to kata they are not so good. I think this is because kata and sparring require different skill. Kata requires patience, a good demonstration of kihon (basic stances, punches and blocks etc)while maintaining good form and power while sparring requires a person to have fast reactions towards an opponent and to constantly be in a relaxedstance and posture to allow mobility.
"can you use all the things you learned with gloves on?"
With MMA style gloves you could, as they have fingers.
"Striking with two fingers to the eye You can't spar that"
Striking the eyes is not a special secret Karate move - ANYONE can do these types of attacks (just like biting, gouging the throat, etc.) Removing this small percentage of maiming attacks from sparing would not affect the Kata movements, as you could just replace the finger eye strike with a FIST to the eye.
I totally agree with you, i only wanted to point out that there is a difference between sparring and a self defence situation, as you can use these destroying moves. But if you never trained them youre not used to use them.
And i would more likely take a fist to the eye then a finger, because the finger with the same strength as the fist would destroy the eye.
Even in self-defense, you have to make sure that it is REALLY serious (life or death) before using these attacks. If it were just a scuffle, then you would be in BIG legal trouble if you ripped out someone’s eyes or tore out their throat.
I can also guarantee that Karate practitioners do not practiced these techniques fully, as they would all be blind or dead from their training if they did. The only useful techniques are the ones you CAN practice in full sparing mode.
when someone starts attacking me with a knife eg, i dont care what happens with him. I dont want to beat anyone up, but when it happens i care more for my life then for his.
Let's end this here, we woun'd find a point.
I just can't understand people searching for kata and then start to offend the ppl who did them.
I agree that its VERY important to gauge the true threat of any situation. How you would react to your neighbor being drunk and grabbing you, versus a person intent on destroying you. But in most cases, if its just a scuffle, the majority of the time there are ways to simply avoid or remove yourself from the situation b4 it escalates to a life or death situation.
Full contact does not mean uncontrolled. Even in that arena there are rules to protect the athletes. Even looking at major MMA competitions there are vital rules to help protect the athletes from serious harm or death. Nothing short of going and fighting on the streets will be exactly like fighting on the streets. But if thats the choices you want to make, be prepared for someone to walk up behind you and shoot you in the head while you beat up his buddy. Violence only begets more violence.
Very decent kata, especially for the experience level. For those wishing to create a debate of the usefulness of kata, or karate in general, please go elsewhere becaue your opinions mean literally NOTHING to anyone that pursues karate-do for its intended purpose. In all honesty I feel pity for those who feel too insecure about their self-worth or the worth of their chosen activity that they can not appreciate a deeper meaning to a form (such as kata) beyond the immediate and obvious.
Please enlighten us, as you are obviously at one with the true meaning of Karate and marital arts...
What is the intended purpose of Kata?
What is the deeper meaning to a form?
If you are truly secure in your own believes, you would encourage others to post their comments, not try and stop them - and you would be eager to show them the value of your beliefs by explaining the core values, not just speak in “high and mighty” meaningless tones...
Kata (deending on the style taught) encorporates methods of physical conditioning, mental awareness with classical traits of pure fighting. Karate-do, and kata as part of that path, is not focused around the punch, kicks, but rather the pursuit of perfecting character through the physical and mental training. There is obviously theres only so little space for such a huge topic as the meaning of kata, but this is just a little tid-bit for thsoe interested.
I would have thought that Kata was designed so that you could practice your technique on your own in order to become a better martial artist. As martial arts were developed for use in combat, Kata should be practiced with this in mind. Just going through the movements might be okay while learning the form, but you should display the Kata as if you were in front of your opponent. Strong blocks, powerful strikes, and swift movements are more important than just getting the technique perfect.
Very good point, but part of getting the technique correct IS doing it strongly, with the proper intent, alongside making sure you're form is correct. Unfortunately, there are too many practitioners that forget that part and do just go through the motions. But that sort of mediocrity is unfortunately present in all forms of martial arts due to students slacking or not taught properly. It is not neccesarily fault of the particular style.
"It is not neccesarily fault of the particular style"
I Agree - It's the teacher’s fault. Too many McDojo's out there. Watch this Kata again, and this time picture his blocks and strikes as if there were an opponent in front of him... That’s why I did not think that this was an example of a good Kata – The form was great, but the movements would not have been effective against an opponent.
Well there is one thing that needs also to be said and that the Kata is also about unitng the body, the mind and the spirit while perfecting techniques. Strikes do you know good if the there is no control to where and how they land. I have seen this particular kata done a lot better I will agree with that but I still feel and always will that they are necessary for the learning process of at least the style that the kata comes from and it's off shoots.
Very good point. As to the quality of the particular practitioner it looks like the kid is wearing a blue belt. So I'd say its done decently for a novice.
train in muay thai or brazilian jijutsu and you may amount to a real *martial* artist instead of a circus performer. or at least get to see where the martial arts are at today.
true true.. i wonder how long before the karate community out this kata bullshit. it's no good for anything beyond looking "cool" and commerce. it's no good for the ring, or the octagon or the streets. karate schools like daidojuku have recognised this and left it behind. shi-to-ryu and all those guys should either compete and prove themselves or quit conning people.
Good kata, great speed and power. I'd grade that an 8. Some of the others have pointed out to add a little more "focus".. put your opponent in front of you and you will have it.
Also, that is a little different than the Bassai Dai that I learned. I guess there are differences between styles. I have noticed that kata is like a game of "telephone" for the most part. Once a kata is passed to the next person, it is changed and will be changed again when that person passes it on.
Bassai kata, based on Passai, or peace forms. The original kata are devastating in their bunkai. The original kata originated in Okinawa, and are still taught in their older forms among the traditionalist styles from the Ryukyus.
Umm... Who won? Him or the invisible guy he was fighting? Just joking, but I still find a kata like this a little bit hollow. If you did the kata like someone was in front of you and you were blocking and striking at him then I can see the point, but this was just a soft choreographed dance movement. Isn’t it supposed to be all about practicing your blocks and strikes – not just perfect movements?
andrwleong knowledge of martial arts must be limited, because Karate meaning empty hand, contains all forms of combat standing & grappling. I am a Karate instructor and train using anything and everything that will defend myself, from elbows to armbars to a beer bottle acroos the face. Martials Arts in down to individual progress. DONT DISMISS ANY STYLE
This kata was alright but it was signifigantly different than the version of Bassai Dai I learned in Shino Jinen Ryu Ryobu Kai. (long name huh). There was no power in most of the techniques and the stances were very weak. overall maybe a 6 out of 10.
Yeah but kicks can be more devestating....Specially in TKD. Then again it depends on the vital spots your going for. These Katas are very different from TKD's patterns... Are you WTF or ITF?
I need all katta
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Gemeinsameauen 3 years ago
its a similair version of bassai dai
insanenitro 3 years ago
its basaidai wich most larger karate styles have. but i still tend to belive its tenshinkan because he bends he's b back leg a bit. if i'm not mistaken they do that in their basadai. but i could be wrong, hvent got to basadai yet, only trained for a year and a half now...
hostergaard 4 years ago
Good :)
aiko4321 4 years ago
shito-ryu
mickywoo83 4 years ago
It's shito ryu, I'm first dan in shito ryu...
The kata was good, a few mistakes like the bending of the back leg though.
aiyer1989 4 years ago
ITS SHYTU RYU iknow it because i was doing it for 9 years!! and the kata is Bassai dai
Aggropups 4 years ago
I think this version of bassi dai is from shito-kai
SHINBO12 5 years ago
no dats retardakai.never heaard of dat huh??dats da shyt wat bruc li trains wid mang.its ancient.
BERMUDAMA 5 years ago
real kata is done with two competitors, and involves more than just remembering where to thrust.
sparring or fighting beats kata hands down anyway:P
thepeganator 5 years ago
are you retarded...honestly..if you knew anything about karate you would know that there is two competitors
why do you think the judge is holding 2 flags
jay390 5 years ago
That is not shotokan, it is the "shittory" version of Bassai Dai.
Idrielofhali 5 years ago
pura mierda tu karate prefiero mi estilo taekwondo
auTistaXazuLon 5 years ago
thats shotokan
Stepes 5 years ago
I think it was Bassai Dai, a Shotokan kata.
holyxdio 5 years ago
At first glance it seemed like Thensinkan style... But maybe im wrong, I yust began training thensinkan half a year ago...
hostergaard 5 years ago
who said he was a blue belt...hes just wearing blue because of scoring you idiots
jay390 5 years ago
wish some of my classmates (some blue and green belts) were this good.
aznqt2 5 years ago
I got MY blue Belt i hated rembering all the words for the Basic punchs kicks and stands >> O well i quite after that Sen sai Qutie being a sen sei O well now im rambeling on. Viedo was good
Wafflezmania 5 years ago
Bassai Dai!! I love this kata!!!
davefarber 5 years ago
Siktir lan gavat vaktimi bosa harcadin.
TAYYAR91 5 years ago
I wish all my blue belts did kata this well.
Thacker 5 years ago
excellent kata. Very similar to our Shito Ryu kata, with a few movements from the Shotokan version. Very well done for his level.
Kudos
hbadra 5 years ago
Good stances but poor technique on the strikes, no hip movement so no power, good speed tho, also a lot of the moves look shortcutted to me, but then again I don't train this style :)
lordaradon 5 years ago
Looks like Shito Ryu to me.
kippercat1 5 years ago
or maybe is shuri ryu
phantom3007 5 years ago
il kick his arse he looks lik a woman
HARRY11980 5 years ago
Hei. What kind of karate is this? I train Shotokan Karate, and we have the kata bassai dai as well. If this is the shotokan kata Bassai dai, it's at least not the JKA way, and it doesn't look like shotokan at all.
Betsnipe 5 years ago
Wado ryu style!
We are not idiots ;)
AxlLiam 5 years ago
nice kata :] what stile ?
KeinGuterNickMehrDa 5 years ago
so i do shotokan... and this is the worst bassai-dai i´ve ever seen in my life, sorry :)
Krissy0412 5 years ago
in my style kyu-shin-do we do have katas as well, not like that though, and we do that as well as real life situations like on the street too so a gd blend
i have no idea what that kata was coz i ent that good (yet) however that was really cool!!
chaoscontrol64 5 years ago
Gelsamel Kata is there to improve your technique... not to teach real life situations and that is understood by the practioner. I've had plenty of real life situations through out my 9 years of karate and have always come out on top.
Hhaaplo 5 years ago
Is there any point in your karate training where you don't do training based on 3-move/2-move/1-move patterns or sparring where it is no-holds-barred? If you haven't then you've been programmed. Shinkyokushin you can't kick the knees, well guess what everyone is going to kick your knees in real life. A kick to the head wins a sparring match, well guess what in real life a kick to the head off-balances you and if you don't manage to knock them out (if it hits) then you're screwed anyway.
GelsamelXV 5 years ago
Nothing like being programmed in karate. Ever notice how self-defense classes don't go through kata or patterns because they're just programming. In a real life situation you're going to do stupid things you shouldn't be doing because of the programming.
GelsamelXV 5 years ago
i really dont get your point
vieuxsacados 5 years ago
u guys are idiots...this is the kata called Bassai dai, but it is the second form of bassai dai because there's two! So this one is different from the other one. And the guy ain't a blue belt...he's a black belt in japan, but when competing the states, the japanese usually have to wear a red or blue belt to indicate which person is which...idiots
kgirlthefox 5 years ago
i argee,he must have some shotokan style becuse he has very large movements i am a black belt in shito-ryu kai which is short and snappy
grantuss 5 years ago
I think he 's doing the basai so kata. He's blue belt but very good.
323731141 5 years ago
he is wearing a blue belt bcoz he is on 'ao' side in this kata competition..n this guy is good...bt Koo Kien Kiat from Malaysia is d best...
jisenz 5 years ago
omg i no this karate i feel special!
MirandaLowe 5 years ago
It is definately not in the Shotokan form
Stephen301 5 years ago
I think he's wearing a blue belt because this is a competition.. actually I'm sure about it.
BluApple 5 years ago
It looks good with mainly sharp and tidy teckniques, its not easy doing it in front of the Judges either, iv done it and its quite nerve racking. Well done to the guy.
FordCortinamk3 5 years ago
he is good! Anyway, is that Pasay sho of Shorin-Ryu style? Heheh. Im also learning that!...
yuichan 5 years ago
This is seifa/seifea(I don't how to spell it:( )it's a Goju Ryu kata,we learn this at the red rank in my class.
wierdbutkewl 5 years ago
lol whats all theese wee hand movments and poses! by the time they do that their attacker will have them on the ground.. nutters
WeeTich06 5 years ago
get a life,speak when you know what you are talking about,go and play with your barbi dolls
wolvoboy 5 years ago
This dude is probably a 5th Kyu, notice the blue belt. That Kata looks very similar to Bassai-dai, a Kata from G.K.R style, this might be the original Shotokan kata however. I Reckon it looks pretty good.
stevereaver 5 years ago
i definately kno u dont go 2 the 1 in Queens
PHILAG 5 years ago
All kata forms look great when well performed, even the relatively linear ones like the teikyokus, heians and tekis (did I spell those right?). I think this dude needs a little more kime in his moves but, fair enough for a 3rd or 2nd kyu, I'd give him an 8/10.
tshd 5 years ago
Yes, sure... If you dont know about karate, do not comment! That performance takes years of training with the best "Masters"! In my club, we have blackbelts that is worse than that, and we are one of the best clubs in Denmark. We even have a World Championship winner! I dont know much about karate either, just Taekwondo, but thats good and fast techniques! Maybe not perfect, but much better than very many.
Augenatic 5 years ago
dang i cant find any Kyo-Kushin KArate style in here
rune9 5 years ago
man this guy dont know anything about kata he sucks
fantel1 5 years ago
I don't know pretty much about Karate but I hope this is a beginner caus there's nothing impressive there, my mom would have done it...
BassIsBeautiful 5 years ago
actually bassai dai is one of the higher up katas but its one tht has to b known lol,but yeh i know wot u mean.
mcodym20 5 years ago
dude, that guy in the video can kick your ass any day.But I do agree that kata isn't flashy to someone that doesn't know anything about karate.
Yakuza18 5 years ago
bu katayı bende çizmiştim kahverengiye geçerken :D
ferwoll 5 years ago
AFF RIDUCULO... KARATE EH UMA MERDA!!! KUNG FU EH 100000000x MAIS IRADO! (e esse kata do karate soh nao eh pior do q o heian shodan (1º kata do shotokan) - sei la como se escreve essa merda... ¬¬ -
andrezzim 5 years ago
bassai dai suckk, jion is the bestt kata
jspikey 5 years ago
tbh i like both,personal fav tho is nijushiho,but mostly cos we never do it cos its an advanced kata n i know it,im only 14 so lol.
mcodym20 5 years ago
yah ,nijushiho is crazyyy ,its a cool kata too
jspikey 5 years ago
A shitoryu version of Bassai Dai. A must-pass for shodan. Literally the name means "taking enemy's stronghold". His performance is ok--all movements are correct. What's lacking is the power and spirit to subdue the opponent.
makai2006 5 years ago
Hey it's nice to hear from real Karate Ka out there.
Much love brothers Sensei Conway USKA WORLD champ NANDANSHO!
nandansho 5 years ago
i thought bassai dai meant ' breaking through a fortress' ,correct me if im mistakin,dnt think i am tho lol
mcodym20 5 years ago
It's Passai Dai-performed probably by GMaster Fusei Kise's grand. A tournament version of Shorin Ryu Matsumura Seito Passai Dai. His rank is close to green belt. I didn't look that good at that rank-still don't!
Upright stances r classic Matsumura Shorin Ryu. Deeper stances have GM Kise's Shorin Ji influence.
bhat316752 5 years ago
Meant to type-It looks like Grandmaster Fusei Kise's grandson performing the kata.
bhat316752 5 years ago
btw its Bassai Dai not Passai Dai,im a black belt,i do a slightly different version but i definetely recognise 95% of the kata lol.
mcodym20 5 years ago
You're would be correct if it were a Japanese system. Shorin Ryu is not. It's Okinawan. The kata is Passai-not Bassai.
bhat316752 5 years ago
katas lol
EmperorCesar 5 years ago
It's funny that so many people think that this is a good example of a well-performed Kata as I use this clip as evidence of how Kata should NOT be done. The purpose of a Kata is not just to get perfect movement and precise form, it is to practice as if there was an opponent attacking you. None of the blocks or strikes in this Kata would be very useful in that context.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
This Bassai Dai may be the JKA Style kata. Being a Blackbelt Shodan level in Kyodai Karate-Do... I definitely recognize it but its very different from Kenkojuku style of kata that I practice. Overall, sharp movements, the stances were ok and the timing was very.. off.. wheres the Karate-Do spirit? The strength? The power that one is supposed to show when doing a Kata such as this?
DimSum9685 5 years ago
Damn, guy's got some fine moves. A bit different from my Bassai-dai, but great nonetheless.
zakeruthunder 5 years ago
i can beat that with my kung fu shogan monkey claw kata...then he wish he never mess with me :)
noobzrule 5 years ago
that sucked.... I MEAN THE STANCES are good and everything.. but where's the emotion?? haha yeah...
melhorbenfiquista21 5 years ago
I tend to think about karate as a generic punching/kicking art with little technique until I see a high-level kata like this.
kikaku2501 5 years ago
shitoryu
whatusi 5 years ago
nice, real nice, im in karate 2, i won 1st plac wen i wuz a wite blt,my mastr made me go 2 tournamnt erly, anywyz, dats som nice stf u got der ^_^ KY-AH!!!
lloxxSakuraxxoll 5 years ago
Bassi Dai, man I hate that kata! but its a cool clip
erintheslasher 5 years ago
Yup ... Bassai Dai .. My favourite kata
emilioryan 5 years ago
its wado ryu
gam67 5 years ago
sorry its not wado ryu,it probably comes from shito ryu they have many versions of this kata
wolvoboy 5 years ago
Nice to see al those variations of bassai dai.
MrIco 5 years ago
this is not a difficult one...not many variations...
poniran 5 years ago
there are a lot of variations of this kata, Matstumura patsai being one of the oldest, i know of at least 10 versions
wolvoboy 5 years ago
Shito-Ryu - Basai dai. This is an aesthetically pleasing kata when performed well. This is an ok example of this. As a competition kata it could do with a litle more focus and sharpness in the combinations. All the basic elements are there just need to keep practising! I believe the blue(au) belt the karateka is wearing denotes which competitor he is and not his grade in this WKF rules competition. Red (aka) is worn by the competitor he is against.
dbwado 5 years ago
I did Shotokan for like 6 years...
Now I do kyokushinkai...
I do karate for 10 years now...
This kata doesnt look like a kata from kyokushinkai or shotokan...
I think I have seen this one being performed by someone from shiyu-ryu or shuto-ryu...
but I am not sure
Sanyah 5 years ago
this almost looks like a tang soo do form i do but its changed a little
buck25ler 5 years ago
good try... bassai dai unless i'm majorly mistaken?... there's alot of spirit in there but ive gotta say i agree with knarfster.. i can't really picture the bunkai involved considering the high stances and extra-long movements between techniques
Asmodeon36 5 years ago
Bassai dai it is.
SauronsEye 5 years ago
heian sandan
mhecz 5 years ago
Wierd seeing another style (non-shotokan) do Bassai-Dai. Seems like a lot of extraneous movement (waste of energy) in the light stances. I would like to see their (whatever style this is) bunkai for this Kata.
knarfster 5 years ago
Nice Kata.
Odacon 5 years ago
Mind you kata was made in feudal times when teaching/training to fight was outlawed by invaders/warlords like owning weapons was. They might meet someone while traveling, and just show each other a new kata. It was quick minddump training, and could be practiced later, and doesn't look enough like fighting. The application of kata to fighting (bunkai) looks totally different.
wulf203 5 years ago
I know what kata! EMPI!!:D
1independet 5 years ago
i wasn't sure if it was empi or basi.
blackdragon1828 5 years ago
Very nice performance.
weaseldragon 5 years ago
it is orange tip 2 for singaporean .... tat kata ...
simazhongda 5 years ago
Las posturas bien, puede que en el estilo que yo practico varien, pero se ha comido un kiai XDD
McArioXD 5 years ago
omg, in karate we do this kata, but actually more complex, and it's only our red belt kata, which is the grade before brown belt. Is this their black belt kata? or an earlier grade kata? We call it bas-ei-dei I don't know if that's the spelling, but it sounds like the name lol. If it is their black belt, than their karate can't be as hard as ours. The guy is still pretty good though.
lmjc 5 years ago
"Their Karate can't be as hard as ours."
There's the sign of a retard if I ever saw one.
bassjam 5 years ago
Kata is the language of karate. Being able to recite that language is good, but does not mean that you truly understand it. It does not matter how many forms you can perform, a truly great practitioner has a deep understanding of each kata, and the multiple applications of every move. Some of the most difficult karate styles have the fewest number of katas.
fionabus 5 years ago
Excellent, truly excellent! As for the kata version itself, I like the Shotokan better, as it shows more dynamics and hip action, but this performer makes the most of this version of the kata. Kudos and keep up the great work!
briank1977 5 years ago
That's true yeah. It all comes down to being able to read your aponent's body-language and choose the right attacking tool for each vital spot. Sometimes The different martial art dosn't matter it's out-smarting your aponent.
Niamh666 5 years ago
On the other hand, sometimes one martial art dominates the other. EG: TKD vs Kickboxing....A kickboxer's guard is usually protecting his/her head, completely neglecting the stomach. A full-force side kick is sure to do some damage.
Niamh666 5 years ago
At the same time though, the kickboxer focuses more on agression. A sudden attack sprung on a tkd practitioner would possibly have an affect. So sometimes the martial art is better in its own way. All martial arts have at least on fault.
- Niamh C. ITF Taekwon-do Ireland.
Niamh666 5 years ago
it's opponent ^^ hehehehehe
LoveSickAngel 5 years ago
SSSHHH!!!!!! SHIT! I thought noone would notice!!...
Niamh666 5 years ago
Very nice
check out this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZCFvVFl30
nikiboy1 5 years ago
is this shito? i prefer shotokan.
wukjoy 5 years ago
its the man! not the style what counts,
wolvoboy 5 years ago
Its Shito ryu, i prefer Shukokai... :p
lorDoc3loT 5 years ago
i do shukokai myself
IsmEll19Bad88 5 years ago
It's NOT shotokan. It's probably Shito ryu, which also has this kata..
Shelou2006 5 years ago
This looks like Shito Ryu style black belt kata Bassai Dai. I learnt it at karate camp.
kahyoh 5 years ago
i think it's shotokan. or maybe shotokai. i don't think shito ryu has this kata.
ritazz 5 years ago
http://shitokai.com/movies/bassaidai.php
Shito Ryu is one of the styles with the most kata btw..
Shelou2006 5 years ago
i prefer goju ryu anyway =P
ritazz 5 years ago
Hmm.. this guy, his kata had good form, but I didn't seem to see much Strength as such? i know not everyone can be totally built.. but he had the skill, just not the .. power? Also, the second half looked very similar to Kata Bassai Dai, from my go kan ryu style
jessbo555 5 years ago
this guy is good,but Kata helps too, I both spar and compete in tournaments and kata helps me remember to do the right execute of strikes and apply it in some fights. We cant just underestimate some katas, just like shaolin kungfu they have there own way of kata, and they fight good. Even muay thai itself has own its own kata...
webbar 5 years ago
your right thats why kata were invented so as to remember your fighting drills thats one of the reasons most styles have them,when people only train in fighting they are not
training in karate,karate is much more than fighting,think about this, its harder not to hit someone than it it is to hit them
wolvoboy 5 years ago
kata is for physicaly and mental training to strenghtne your stance and attacks, but in a fight its pointless, stick with basics and your sparring experiance
datkillamook 5 years ago
Kata is karate,everything you need is in Kata you only have to look a little deeper to understand,if you dont understand you are not doing karate,find a goodteacher.real karateka dont spar they dont need too
wolvoboy 5 years ago
My opinion: one can never be so good in Karate sparring without being so good in Kata. That is why the two is inseparable.
homer30 5 years ago
In my opinion I think you are wrong because if you look at good fighters in competition, when it comes to kata they are not so good. I think this is because kata and sparring require different skill. Kata requires patience, a good demonstration of kihon (basic stances, punches and blocks etc)while maintaining good form and power while sparring requires a person to have fast reactions towards an opponent and to constantly be in a relaxedstance and posture to allow mobility.
Warlordreborn 5 years ago
Good example of Kata performed properly here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqGM3MBPe_8&search=karate
At least you know his blocks and strikes were meant for something. Excellent form and speed as well.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
The Kata looks very great!
Is it a sort of "Bassai Dai" in another Ryu?
Btw: You all only wanna see people beating each othe rup. Thats not the meaning of Karate.
And you can't use the technique's you learn from a Kata use in sparring, cause most of em lead to death or serious injuries!
Kiesel 5 years ago
"You all only wanna see people beating each othe rup. Thats not the meaning of Karate"
What is the meaning of Karate then?
"you can't use the technique's you learn from a Kata use in sparring, cause most of em lead to death or serious injuries!"
What a load of crap. If this were true, all the full contact Karate fighters would be dead...
marcusorilius 5 years ago
can you use all the things you learned with gloves on?
Striking with two fingers to the eye for example? You can't spar that.
Kiesel 5 years ago
"can you use all the things you learned with gloves on?"
With MMA style gloves you could, as they have fingers.
"Striking with two fingers to the eye You can't spar that"
Striking the eyes is not a special secret Karate move - ANYONE can do these types of attacks (just like biting, gouging the throat, etc.) Removing this small percentage of maiming attacks from sparing would not affect the Kata movements, as you could just replace the finger eye strike with a FIST to the eye.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
I totally agree with you, i only wanted to point out that there is a difference between sparring and a self defence situation, as you can use these destroying moves. But if you never trained them youre not used to use them.
And i would more likely take a fist to the eye then a finger, because the finger with the same strength as the fist would destroy the eye.
Kiesel 5 years ago
Even in self-defense, you have to make sure that it is REALLY serious (life or death) before using these attacks. If it were just a scuffle, then you would be in BIG legal trouble if you ripped out someone’s eyes or tore out their throat.
I can also guarantee that Karate practitioners do not practiced these techniques fully, as they would all be blind or dead from their training if they did. The only useful techniques are the ones you CAN practice in full sparing mode.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
when someone starts attacking me with a knife eg, i dont care what happens with him. I dont want to beat anyone up, but when it happens i care more for my life then for his.
Let's end this here, we woun'd find a point.
I just can't understand people searching for kata and then start to offend the ppl who did them.
Kiesel 5 years ago
I agree that its VERY important to gauge the true threat of any situation. How you would react to your neighbor being drunk and grabbing you, versus a person intent on destroying you. But in most cases, if its just a scuffle, the majority of the time there are ways to simply avoid or remove yourself from the situation b4 it escalates to a life or death situation.
toru315 5 years ago
Yes, I agree with this. Best strategy in a street fight would be to escape.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Full contact does not mean uncontrolled. Even in that arena there are rules to protect the athletes. Even looking at major MMA competitions there are vital rules to help protect the athletes from serious harm or death. Nothing short of going and fighting on the streets will be exactly like fighting on the streets. But if thats the choices you want to make, be prepared for someone to walk up behind you and shoot you in the head while you beat up his buddy. Violence only begets more violence.
toru315 5 years ago
Very decent kata, especially for the experience level. For those wishing to create a debate of the usefulness of kata, or karate in general, please go elsewhere becaue your opinions mean literally NOTHING to anyone that pursues karate-do for its intended purpose. In all honesty I feel pity for those who feel too insecure about their self-worth or the worth of their chosen activity that they can not appreciate a deeper meaning to a form (such as kata) beyond the immediate and obvious.
toru315 5 years ago
Please enlighten us, as you are obviously at one with the true meaning of Karate and marital arts...
What is the intended purpose of Kata?
What is the deeper meaning to a form?
If you are truly secure in your own believes, you would encourage others to post their comments, not try and stop them - and you would be eager to show them the value of your beliefs by explaining the core values, not just speak in “high and mighty” meaningless tones...
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Kata (deending on the style taught) encorporates methods of physical conditioning, mental awareness with classical traits of pure fighting. Karate-do, and kata as part of that path, is not focused around the punch, kicks, but rather the pursuit of perfecting character through the physical and mental training. There is obviously theres only so little space for such a huge topic as the meaning of kata, but this is just a little tid-bit for thsoe interested.
toru315 5 years ago
I would have thought that Kata was designed so that you could practice your technique on your own in order to become a better martial artist. As martial arts were developed for use in combat, Kata should be practiced with this in mind. Just going through the movements might be okay while learning the form, but you should display the Kata as if you were in front of your opponent. Strong blocks, powerful strikes, and swift movements are more important than just getting the technique perfect.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Very good point, but part of getting the technique correct IS doing it strongly, with the proper intent, alongside making sure you're form is correct. Unfortunately, there are too many practitioners that forget that part and do just go through the motions. But that sort of mediocrity is unfortunately present in all forms of martial arts due to students slacking or not taught properly. It is not neccesarily fault of the particular style.
toru315 5 years ago
"It is not neccesarily fault of the particular style"
I Agree - It's the teacher’s fault. Too many McDojo's out there. Watch this Kata again, and this time picture his blocks and strikes as if there were an opponent in front of him... That’s why I did not think that this was an example of a good Kata – The form was great, but the movements would not have been effective against an opponent.
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Well there is one thing that needs also to be said and that the Kata is also about unitng the body, the mind and the spirit while perfecting techniques. Strikes do you know good if the there is no control to where and how they land. I have seen this particular kata done a lot better I will agree with that but I still feel and always will that they are necessary for the learning process of at least the style that the kata comes from and it's off shoots.
blackdragon1828 5 years ago
Very good point. As to the quality of the particular practitioner it looks like the kid is wearing a blue belt. So I'd say its done decently for a novice.
toru315 5 years ago
Your right it is blue and that is a 1st dan kata so I agree it is done well for a novice.
blackdragon1828 5 years ago
Thank you I could not have said it better myself!!
blackdragon1828 5 years ago
This is what Karate should look like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMjGQk-k2ZA
marcusorilius 5 years ago
For example, what good would your kata do here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMjGQk-k2ZA
geodesicks 5 years ago
kata = hocus pocus.
train in muay thai or brazilian jijutsu and you may amount to a real *martial* artist instead of a circus performer. or at least get to see where the martial arts are at today.
geodesicks 5 years ago
true true.. i wonder how long before the karate community out this kata bullshit. it's no good for anything beyond looking "cool" and commerce. it's no good for the ring, or the octagon or the streets. karate schools like daidojuku have recognised this and left it behind. shi-to-ryu and all those guys should either compete and prove themselves or quit conning people.
geodesicks 5 years ago
omg I recognize a kata I learned as a kid. some of the moves
M3mPHiS 5 years ago
Good kata, great speed and power. I'd grade that an 8. Some of the others have pointed out to add a little more "focus".. put your opponent in front of you and you will have it.
Also, that is a little different than the Bassai Dai that I learned. I guess there are differences between styles. I have noticed that kata is like a game of "telephone" for the most part. Once a kata is passed to the next person, it is changed and will be changed again when that person passes it on.
HeathenAngel 5 years ago
Bassai kata, based on Passai, or peace forms. The original kata are devastating in their bunkai. The original kata originated in Okinawa, and are still taught in their older forms among the traditionalist styles from the Ryukyus.
grendel4s 5 years ago
Umm... Who won? Him or the invisible guy he was fighting? Just joking, but I still find a kata like this a little bit hollow. If you did the kata like someone was in front of you and you were blocking and striking at him then I can see the point, but this was just a soft choreographed dance movement. Isn’t it supposed to be all about practicing your blocks and strikes – not just perfect movements?
marcusorilius 5 years ago
not bad
riironman 5 years ago
andrwleong knowledge of martial arts must be limited, because Karate meaning empty hand, contains all forms of combat standing & grappling. I am a Karate instructor and train using anything and everything that will defend myself, from elbows to armbars to a beer bottle acroos the face. Martials Arts in down to individual progress. DONT DISMISS ANY STYLE
neilung 5 years ago
This kata was alright but it was signifigantly different than the version of Bassai Dai I learned in Shino Jinen Ryu Ryobu Kai. (long name huh). There was no power in most of the techniques and the stances were very weak. overall maybe a 6 out of 10.
20mike07 5 years ago
nice form--however Karate is not always a good self defense no matter WHAT belt color you are. It all depends on your dedication of training.
forgettheobvious 5 years ago
Bassai-dai...performed mundanely. It's totally lacking sharpness and functionality and he/she tries to hard to make it look pretty.
xNeoxThexOnex 5 years ago
I take shito-ryu. He's pretty good, just missing a little spirit in my opinion.
Slothiest 5 years ago
well i took sho to kan for a little over ten years and i have to agree on the spirit part.
blackdragon1828 5 years ago
I must say it's not the best kata. I've taken shotokan karate, so I noticed variations between this shito-ryu kata and the one I know.
assassinscv 5 years ago
His moves are fast and sharp. Too bad we don't do much punching in taekwondo.
darkreize 5 years ago
we should do more punches in taekwondo
walsh101greatness 5 years ago
Yeah but kicks can be more devestating....Specially in TKD. Then again it depends on the vital spots your going for. These Katas are very different from TKD's patterns... Are you WTF or ITF?
Niamh666 5 years ago
im wtf
walsh101greatness 5 years ago
Oh cool, I'm ITF....
Niamh666 5 years ago
ITF focuses on punches just as much though. Only a slight bit of more emphasis is placed on kicking.
Niamh666 5 years ago
i see thats cool
walsh101greatness 5 years ago
awesome
walsh101greatness 5 years ago
i recon he did very well
initialdcrazy 5 years ago
Basai-dai from shito-ryu karate style, I think. The speed is ok being a shito-ryu kata
karL0s86 5 years ago
Great cat stance! I always seem to be a little off-center with mine. :(
rattlerbrat 5 years ago
Pretty fast, you should incorporate that into boxing. With that kind of speed and the proper training, boxing could really take off for you.
MarkJGS 5 years ago
Peanut are you in karate?
mikoman 5 years ago
Being a martial artist myself, I have an attraction towards men who exhibit a great deal of discipline and sharpness in their forms.
So the student = hot. =P
mangoseed 6 years ago
omg i hate these girls that love guys that do karate, lol makes me laugh. go watch Mixed martial arts thats discipline and sharpness
andrwleong 5 years ago
What makes me laugh is your comment.
Especially the use of "Omg" and "lol".
gragh 5 years ago
well am glad i made you laugh,
Lets be honest t