police stop me for taking photos in a public place!!

[formicapple2]

"Don't talk over me" She should remember she is a public servant. Perhaps you should have insisted she called a PC, who by the way, would have known the law and put the PCSO straight. But you (like me) probably couldn't be bothered with the control freak any more. I too get his all too often and it really p?#~£" me off but it's mainly from security officers. Well done for keeping a cool head.

[Harv7340]

tell the pcso to fook off.. in a nice way.. peace

[wiggi1974]

typical police idiots .

[Tehdew]

I'll find out what law I'm practicing after I arrest you... what a retard.

[MegaOptionzTV]

Tut tut these idiots have no idea what goes on around them do they? Have these people got nothing better to do than harass innocent photographers? The world has gone to pot.

I wonder if they would respond to a 999 call if someone complained that someone was taking a photograph of a street? The police are mentally ill.

[randrews02809]

"I'll find out when I go to arrest you for it" .... wait ? what ?

[josephnorth]

@randrews02809

My thoughts exactly, was completely stunned when she said that. I'm sure you're aware people are having the same issue here in the states. We need to stand up for the rights we have left and reclaim those rights which have been taken from us..

[UnnecessaryCinematic]

Lol she said you had to show her proof?! Its her job to prove your doing something wrong, and plus theres nothing illegal about annoying a police officer, especially if they approached you, cant be harassment haha

[UnnecessaryCinematic]

I had a police officer tell me that I couldnt film in the airport, I told him he was wrong and ignored him. he then detained me and took me to the airport manager and the manager told him that its perfectly legal to film in a public place. I asked the officer why he was targeting me, he said "because you have a big camera", oh so the laws say that if you have a big camera you cant film here, but anyone with an iphone can? WTF?!! Screw law enforcement, its your damn job to know the law dumbasses

[UnnecessaryCinematic]

You can film the Police Officers too, that is also in your rights

[elefantus77]

Russia also adhere to the photographers! already tired of this! Why then let the camera? a terrorist if he should make use of a telephoto lens

and take pictures of everything that he needs

[AndyJamesWilliams]

Got stopped last night on a main road at the back of windsor, berkshire, apparently its a protected area and not allowed to take photos of my car there, ITS A MAIN ROAD. Amazing, they want the money of the public/tourist but these people arnt allowed to take photos of an historic castle or area. Terrorism act bla bla bla - gone beyond stupid now. They confiscated my car keys until they wre happy. I live in this area. And all this 'no photos allowed' started when!!!!!!

[1775novten]

So at the end she states "that you'll find out what law you are breaking once I arrest you". So she could not cite a law that prohibits what he is doing and rather she implies that they'll just find or make up something to cite him with.

[videogangstar]

my complaint below

We have already received a number of complaints in relation to this matter.

The officer concerned is a Police Community Support Officer. She has been dealt with accordingly.

In addition, each and every Nottinghamshire Police Officer and our PCSOs have been reminded of the legislation in respect of street photography to ensure that a repeat of this does not occur in the future.

I trust this action answers your query.

Yours sincerely

Ak Khan

Chief Superintendent

[surfdigby]

@videogangstar Hang on, I thought the officer was 100% correct in this matter? Any comment you'd like to make, Officer Truffles?

[bluebottle1617]

Yet again, police officers and PCSOs abusing their powers or police training centres misinterpreting the law. Those who take the sort of attitude displayed in this video should be sent back to the training school to retake their law exams.

[mfrank165]

this is why choking bitches should be legal

[videogangstar]

@mfrank165 lolololol

[electricsilver]

She will find out what law when she comes to arrest you for it. She doesn't know - fucking piglet. They film us hundreds of times a day - and that's ok is it? Well done tommaddick.

[chchcharr]

Extract from the 'All forces guidance letter, 26/08/10, Andrew Trotter, Chief Constable, Chair of ACPO Communication Advisory Group' :

There are no powers prohibiting the taking of photographs, film or digital images in a public place. Therefore members of the public and press should not be prevented from doing so. Unnecessarily restricting photography, whether for the casual tourist or professional is unacceptable and it undermines public confidence in the police service.

[bluebottle1617]

@chchcharr Thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention, mate.

[theawecabinet]

She tells the man to not 'irritate her' by talking to her about the law - it's her JOB to talk about the law, she's a police woman!

Can you imagine a doctor saying "I'm not discussing your symptoms, it's really irritating"

She says 'I don't know why you insist on taking photos'

This is Orwellian double think. Taking photos is lawful. Therefore she's basically saying:

'I don't know why you insist on acting lawfully'

She's just abusing her job title to harass innocent strangers. Shame on her.

[theawecabinet]

continued...

The sad part is her brain is probably so full of police training (and she probably never reads books or learns about history or researches what's going in the world outside the mainstream media) that she can't even see how she's helping to bring in a police state.

The people who CAN see this assume she is the 'enemy' and so start insulting her (see comments here). This drives a wedge between public and police.

Divide and rule.

And THAT is how the powers-that-be control society.

[broosycruise]

stupid bitch

[MrDefiance000]

what a retarded cop

[jgig22]

what a cunt

[Tamayo1980]

Fuck that lame ass bitch; If you don't want anyone "talking over you" you (female Pirate) should prob. take your ass back to the kitchen. She don't even know the laws but shes a cop. lol they don't need to know the laws because long as they have a badge or gun and the title POLICE so that makes them above the law since they have more "rights/liberties" than the ppl they are suppose to serve and protect.

[LawfulRebellionUK]

HI VIZ=LOW IQ

[geofferzh79]

so what law are you braking then? she was a little rude.. She had no right to stop you,

[streetmuggedbypolice]

You should sue the pea brained slag for implying you were a pedophile.

[outled]

She is rude and obnoxious, she is threatening and aggressive, she is offensive and thick, she is a disgrace. She should be arrested for being a danger to herself. Any psychological assessment would deem her a sociopath. She needs to have a radox and a word with herself.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

She was probably silivating at the thought of taking you back to the cells and taking your particulars down.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

Hang on a minute. You weren't taking pictures of bunny rabbits were you?

[SoDrigh]

WHY DID YOU GIVE IN????? you could've sued for unlawful arrest if she dare to do so.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@SoDrigh How often do you hear about ordinary joes suing for unlawful arrest? Go on now be honest. All they have to do is for two of them to say you were obstructing them and you're fcked and probably later fined in court for it before a police sympathetic anti joe public rent boy loving magistrate.

[SoDrigh]

@streetmuggedbypolice 2 i know, and im pretty sure there is evidence somewhere on youtube. Two of them? hmm.... well theres one officer here, and he has evidence via video recording. If it is not recorded then by all means yes you are right, but with evidence you shall win. If not, make an appeal, the truth will not be denied.

[surfdigby]

@SoDrigh There's been two cases recently where the police have been successfully sued, but it's not like the photographers involved had an easy ride of it. It took them months to get a result.

[seahorsecowboys]

What bull shit i could see if people were in front of a bank and had a criminal record for bank robbery or child petting then maybe ...its funny they can video every aspect of your lifes with their CC-TV ..but you better not even think about it !....geeezzz...and the gub-mint POWER-TRIP crazy train rolls on !

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@truffle65 So let her sue.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@truffle65 Pss off!

[AgothInnCloth]

that bitch needs a very HARD slap!

[videogangstar]

wow......im 5 mile from mansfield. dirty dirty little Gestapo wpc. i might ring mansfield police and complain about this dirty filthy pig.

[diegoafonsomorales]

Oh, so now he is harassing people by taking photos on a public area. Then they wonder why there are so much terrorism.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@diegoafonsomorales Sorry? Terrorism? Unless you are talking about the terrorism that emanates from Parliament I can't say I quite know what the hell you are talking about! (lol)

[telsah1]

When Iam holiday I often take pictures of buildings, etc, in towns that I like and want to remember? Is this wrong? Would the Police tell me Iam not allowed?

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@telsah1 Depends if they feeling cuntish and want to psychologically rape your mind and sense of well being. After all they have to hang around looking and acting like cnts all day in the motor vehicle and chem trailed poisoned atmosphere where as you don't.

[61shirley]

she was so redic!!!

[surfdigby]

What does she say after you say "The law runs throughout, doesn't it?"

[nickydoodle]

typical mansfield lol

[tommaddick]

can I add this is not a personal dig at the female pcso, but a way of showing some still need educating in what the do's and don'ts are in regards to photography in a public place

[gelli3]

Wonder why PCSOs are seen as pretend and amateur police? Could it be their sheer ignorance of the laws they pretend to enforce. Patronising, ignorant little woman, with a bully mentality and not enough brains to know her job.

[tommaddick]

@truffle, i did not edit the clips a single bit, they were two clips with about a 7 second gap between filming, sadly i dint film the first half as i was so shocked with what i was being told by both peso's I'm not out to personally attack the female peso, just educate the force and public that its not illegal to film or photograph in a public place, simple

[Photoix]

@truffle65 are you going to take out a court order on every single shop you have ever been in with CCTV, or google who more than likely have you on street view somewhere too? You whine all you like, fact is its NOT illegal to take photos of anyone in a public place, and you have NO RIGHTS to demand otherwise. If you don't want to be photographed, stay at home.

[norcatch]

There is (or was, it might be the one that were strucken from the books by the UCHR) a law that made it illegal to photograph a police officer if that photograph were to be used for planning an illegal act (or it might be defined as an act of terrorism, it's been a while since I read the statute).

It does not, however, apply in this case. In this case, the officer, or any member of the public has no expectation of privacy, simply photographing in public is not illegal. It's not harrasment.

[danjama]

fucking plastic police, biggest waste of taxpayers money in britain today.

[scoobyroo218]

Truffle could you please answer the question on how you "know" this video is edited, you clearly have a lot to say on the matter tbut nothing that rings of anything truthful.

You are right in saying they have to deal with alot everyday, but that is no excuse for trying to be something they are not, she does not have any clue about what she is talking about, she should have radioed through to find out if the guy was right in what he was saying

[surfdigby]

@truffle65 Don't understand? The author of this video is the son of two police officers (actual warranted officers). I'm sure he - and many others - understand all too well what they do.

[surfdigby]

@truffle65 Please link me to anything that states beyond doubt that it is "illegal to publish such images or video material once requested not to do so".

The PCSO may not be happy, but there's nothing legally she can do about it without a court order.

Incidentally, Nottinghamshire Constabulary have confirmed that the PCSOs actions were wrong here, and Notts HQ have stated that they will be re-issuing guidelines to officers regarding photography in public.

[chrisjslh]

@truffle65, "I think you will find it is illegal to publish such images or video material once requested not to do so". No, it really isn't.

Also, can you please tell us what leads you to believe that this video is edited?

As for the "Yawn Boring!!", please grow up.

[chrisjslh]

@truffle65. Civil legal proceedings? On what basis out of curiosity?

[scoobyroo218]

Truffle you keep saying this video has been edited, how do you know that????

[scoobyroo218]

Truffle you do not know what you are talking about as there is no law anywwhere that states you cannot take a picture of anyone in a public place, that is the thing here, "public" laws are different in a Private place. All you need to do now is proove that the video is edited but I doubt you will be able to do that either. Learn the law before coming on here and saying what the PCSO did was right

[Demilionphoto]

Truffle, I really think that you need to learn the law a bit better before you make those kind's of comments.

Whilst defamation could be an outside possibility it would be almost impossible to prove as you have here a seemingly unedited, fluid video recording. It's tantamount to impossible for someone to defame themselves unless there has been a huge amount of footage chopping.

Privacy? Non issue here.

Nice rant - but you completely miss the point and you are wrong.

[surfdigby]

@truffle65 What are you on about? This was in the UK, where filming or taking still photographs of a police officer (or in this case, a non-warranted officer - a PCSO) in a public place whilst on duty is completely legal.

A police officer (or non-warranted officer) has no expectations or right to privacy when in public office in the UK.

On the other hand, a PCSO implying they have powers above those given by a Chief Constable or Commissioner is a criminal offense in itself.

[meganubble]

Seems like trufle is the "officer" concerned. She still doesn't get it. Taking photographs in a public place is totally legal, whether she likes it or not. How did she get a job as PCSO with spelling like that? Wouldn't believe any statement she claimed to have written. perhaps that's why they go around in pairs - to corroborate each other's stories, sorry fantasies.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@meganubble lol. So fcking true!

[scoobyroo218]

Truffle you would not be PCSO in the movie would you by any chance, as the PCSO has not got a clue what she is talking about and from the sounds of it niether have you

[liveandletlivebaby]

wankers



[supercroc93]

it is a PUBLIC place. You are allowed to take pictures. :P Sadly you give a person a badge and a gun and they think they are a god of some kind. I would have put her to the ground myself. She has no right to speak to anyone in such a manner and she is very obviously in the wrong. With the attitude she is giving you and her body language, you would be perfectly in the right to use force to stop her. (as she is armed and obviously emotionally unstable).

[surfdigby]

@supercroc93 This is Mansfield in the UK, so no guns.

[supercroc93]

@surfdigby ah I forget the police dont carry them over there...about the equivalent of a shopping mall security guard :P I carry mine.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@supercroc93 Oh don't give the tossers guns or we are all fcked!

[supercroc93]

@streetmuggedbypolice lol nice :P They have them here and they are NOT responsible with them :P give a guy a gun and a badge and he is suddenly almighty :P

[lt1eg6]

I don't particularly like slagging off the police since I can't speak for all, but this is a really severe case. The fact that she said "I don't know under what law I'm stopping you, but I'll find out when I could arrest you for it" I find that the most alarming part. So she stopped him for "annoying" her alone. Her lack of knowledge and her misuse of power are not a good combination. To top it off, her dismissive nature is not what one would expect from the Police force. Disheartening.

[streetmuggedbypolice]

@lt1eg6 You are lucky enough not to have been at the receiving end of their " dismissive" natures then. Just don't let more that one of them get you on your own or they will swear whatever they want about you and if they haul you before the rent boy loving justices of the peace he will take their side every time. You will just be a piece of shat to rob as far as they are concerned.

[landrovercrazy]

Extremely incompetent. I hope they're disciplined on the matter. I have great respect for police officers, yet more and more don't have a level head, consequently they often believe they're right no matter, because they wear the uniform. In cases like this it's rare to get an immediate apology, instead it takes court appearances.

[Baldricksodoff]

"I need to speak to you about some of the charges you are bringing in constable Savage" (Not the nine o'clock news)

[kennycoll]

Stupid bitch!!

[tiler65]

@kennycoll not stupid but not educated on this matter.

[davidpetersevern]

Absolutely crazy. I'm a photographer based in Nottingham, I grew up in Mansfield and have been working on a project there looking at the ex pit sites which will be exhibited at the Mansfield Museum next year. I'm also a very avid street photographer and was considering running street photography workshops in Mansfield next year as part of the accompanying events. I would be very interested in following the progress of your complaint.

[CrackedButter]

Lol,Mansfield.

[Photoix]

Incredible. Incompetence of that level in any other job would be an immediate sacking. I'm not usually one to advocate the compensation culture, but I'd definitely be one to go for it on this case. I'd donate the money to charity. In the paper today, that young lad stopped by a inspector for the same thing won his case. She needs to learn her place, and some manners.

[meganubble]

Too typical of the state machine in this country. Give them a badge and they are all powerful. Take their badge away and they are just little people with no knowledge or expertise. Small people who need a cloak of authority for their own self esteem.

Incompetent and unknowledgeable. Untrained and unskilled. Not good enough to be proper police, and now we see why.

And she added a threat about child molestation just to give herself some defence because she'd realised she was wrong. Pathetic woman.

[snapdragonprints]

Absolutely laughable... and that was a pretty cheap and unnecessary comment regarding "photographing kids" towards the end!

[TheFiestasi]

she needs to be sacked. it amazes me that because they are in police uniform they no better than the general public

[marcelbooth]

Just seen this on Talk Photography.

Best of luck with your complaint. She not only needs more legal training, but also re-training on customer service and how to speak to the public.