@saaaammm3 He wrote this piece when he was about 34 and he didnt go completly deaf until the last 7 years of his life (age 50-57) but he began to go deaf at age 26 so he was about half way to being completly deaf.
Why do atheists always have to be such dicks? Someone merely says, "Thank God for Beethoven", and then they feel the need to tell them to thank Beethoven instead. It's the same kind of arrogant nerd that corrects your spelling.
I left Classical Music for Rock, Country, Pop, and Metal awhile back and have now come in a full circle. Now I like all of them from Beethoven to Bruno Mars. :D
@EminEm61001 Are you being sarcastic or are you really just that stupid? It's movement 2. Let me simplify that for you. It's the second part of the 5th symphony which is composed of three parts or movements. The one you're surely thinking about is movement 1.
@alskdjfq You are correct. I am so use to his sonatas only having 3 movements most of the time that I didn't even think about. In fact some of his other symphonies have 5 movements.
I believe Beethoven himself would staunchly decry such a statement. He was a devout believer in God and would probably have gasped at such a comparison. Bach and himself gave much, if not all, credit to God for their gift.
I just love the way the romantacism, conquers the military threat , in this movement and all is put to rights for a while as the pastoral theme is visited
It is strange how people start immediately arguing about the existence or no-existence of God (switch from music/ art, to God). This is an indicator that, after all this time, it is still a burning question. Where does music and art come from?!? - still open for discussion...Great music like this is meant to unite people - whether they believe or not. Having said that, Beethoven himself was a BELIEVER (he felt and knew where inspiration comes from) - and I don't want to be cleverer than him
@shkodranalbi I've always found it more fascinating to believe that inspiration comes from the human spirit and soul, rather than from a Creator. If that works for you, though, that's great. Glad we could share the experience of BEETHOVEN, friend!
Yes, and it's also chemistry and psychics. Mathematics is a concept that does not psychically exist in reality, that alows as to simplyfie and describe reality. To change them in to clear u unambiguous equation, but it is not math. It can be only described in math. Also, as far as many composers could apply simple rules of mathematics for example concerning the bit, i really don't think they did decide whether it was good or not based on it.
Re the conversation below, I worship at the church of Ludwig, but still love Tribe Called Quest and Hiromi Uehara (a female jazz Beethoven for the 21st century). And I sing Justin Beiber songs with my 4 1/2 year old daughter - who also loves "Back in the USSR" and the 7th symphony, 4th movement (or "Fun Beethoven" as she calls it).
So it's all good. Some of it happens to be transcendental. Don't worry about pop music leading kids away from the classics.
@BrioWoW you troll, you dont know anything. GTFO and never come back. After 100 years no one will know who the F is Justin Beiber. Beethoven's music is forever.
@PhysicalsimForever I cant imagine how some one can compare that piece of shit that is Justin ahggg Bieber with The Great Beethoven, seriously Ludwig was a Genius.
@warcjg Don't worry. I've had a lot of discussions about this both in and out of YT. A lot of people see me as one of those old-fashioned conservatory types, and don't think I pay enough attention to local culture (I am from New Zealand by the way). I explain this in more detail on my channel.
OK ......I have a question for the double bassists here... Am I crazy or I'm hearing a melodies that are similar to Domenico Dragonetti's style? 3:38 - 4:45
I am recording this wonderful music as I find it onto a tape, YES a cassette tape. It deserves to be on tape instead of CD, because analog tape helps preserve the depth of the music. If I could get another reel to reel I'd put it on there instead. I use to listen to this growing up, and still love it.
The perfect combination of beauty, power, sensitivity. It's amazing how Beethoven was probably in a very lonely, frustrated frame of mind much of the time, yet he still powered thru all the mental crap and created this music!!!
@SirSebastianWang That's disputable. I mean, didn't mozart compose 44 symphonies at a younger age than Beethoven? They're pretty good too, maybe not to the length and grandeur of Beethoven's though... But regardless, haters are going to hate.
Ludwig von Beethoven, so God-like, so Majestic...how awesomely he overcame so many obstacles & persevered as The Master of Classical Music...what a legacy of awe, beauty, power, intensity he has left for us remaining inmortal...this is amongst my favs of his symphonies...than you very, very kindly for sharing this w/ us, ClassicalArchives!!
I just recently made the switch from rap music to classical, and dammit im not going back for a long long while. Beethoven you are a mathematical genius, Thank you so much!
@elmi59 I know! XD I used to hate rap but now I love it and I watched "Beethoven virus" about classical mucis and orchastras and now I'm interested in learning more about classical music also
@killerfriend94 Music when considering harmonies and chords is about the ratio of frequencies between notes, i'm not mathematically inclined myself so i find it hard to understand, but that's the basic cut and thrust.
A good documentary on the BBC called 'The Code' explained it quite well, try BBC iplayer to find it, unless you're stateside, (I'm assuming you are since you refer to 'maths' in it's singular form), then you'll have to find another way to stream it. Good luck.
@elmi59 I both listen to the classical music and rap music. That's what the music is simply meant to be. Both Beethoven and Kanye West are awesome for me.
I think i like the more joyous Beethoven than the tragic, pissed off Beethoven. That painting's, cool by the way. Beethoven's all chillin' in the woods writing music. He's like, "you fellas want some skeezy? I'm selling it for sheezy."
Has anyone else ever thought that the little bit at 1:10 that repeats throughout this movement sounds alot like the beginning of "La Marseillaise" the nation anthem of France? Just a thought I've had.
you know, i personally don't think this movement really fits in with the others (seeing how it's in a flat major and not c minor). I think this movement is its own entity, its own composition and it's such a shame that it is so underplayed.
This movement is cited in book of E.M. Forster: Howards Ends... and related with a goblin (as spirit of negation) but read it, the chapter It's good in a whole.
@0Santt Not really. There are a couple motifs that are similar to parts of the star-spangled banner, but same could be said for any number of other tunes, including Brahms' lullaby (at 0:59 eg.).
this brings back so many memories.. i practically grew up with beethoven's cd because of my bro who is a classical music lover.. but everytime when i listen to this symphony at different stages of my life, i get something different out of it.. it just proves how timeless and enduring the beauty of classical music is =)
@superzombie92. Beethoven's work, like everyone else's has NOTHING TO DO with a god whoever. It is the power of human skill, creativity, talent, ability... you name it, not of a divinity up there in heaven. Nonsense. It is funny, you "believers" only link your god (whoever he is) with big achievements such us music, art and so on but tragedies like war, poverty, etc, are "man-made". It is cynical and silly.
@19franken95 My friend, I absolutely agree with you in that human skill is the force that creates all great works. And so your comment become unilateral and poor. God is not up there in heaven but in the whole world and specially in mankind. God is the infinite catalog of posibilities, he's the One and All different in himself. And men are the incarnation of those posibilities, being artists the non-alienated people, then those who must make everyone realise their divinity. That's all.
@superzombie92. Curioso que me digas que mi comentario es pobre. Creo que aporto algo más que las palabras vacías y manidas que escribes en tu comentario. No obstante, ni yo intento convencerte a ti ni tú me vas a convencer a mí. Yo estoy seguro de que dios (o alá o buda o como quieras) no existe y tú crees que es la fuente de todo. Ahora, si dios no da para más que para crear un ser tan lamentable y violento como el hombre no dice mucho en su favor... Cada loco con su tema y hasta otra.
@19franken95 Interesting statement!! Such fine enduring work that does seem divine like but nevertheless the human is the divine. We have the power for good and evil. Born of free will. Thanks soo much for this!!
@gruad999 Haha things like that happen to me all the time. The other day I had a rock song I like stuck in my head, and an ELECTRIC DRILL started making a noise that sounded just like the riff.
...now that I think about it, that probably means it wasn't a very good riff
@camreeno360 5th symphony, 2nd movement. That's not such a complicated name, is it? In comparing to pop music or whatever it's equivalent to the name of the album and the track, eg. Rubber Soul: Norwegian Wood (by the Beatles, obviously).
Andante Con Moto is just an instruction on how it's supposed to be played.
@Sakkura1 It's not that complicated, but as far as names go, it's complicated. It's like having three different names. Somewhat like addressing someone by their first, middle, and last name when you greet them. Not only that but conductors frequently change the key to their own preferences, which makes it harder to search for a song. And we also have different conductors actually running the music, so when you search for a song on a music site for instance, you get the name of the symphony.
@fintaneh Depending on your perspective. I'm assuming you are not Christian in writing this, but I am not either. Think of it this way: As a believer, what greater compliment is there than to say that this music is so transcendent, so divine that it is a gift from God Himself?
@sightseek3r I agree that your perspective changes whether or not you think the music being from God is a good or bad thing. But I would think that by saying that the music is made by God, you reduce the part that Beethoven played, as you are saying he was merely a co-writer. I think that by acknowledging his independence and ability in his own right, without this outside power, you pay a far greater compliment.
@fintaneh Again, I feel as though... As a pious Christian, the highest compliment you could pay to Beethoven would be to say that your Almighty God, the most benevolent, divine, perfect being, manifested Himself within Beethoven's music. *shrug*
But yeah, I definitely see where you're coming from! I personally wouldn't say this music is a gift from God as I don't believe in God, but it's as divine as it gets :)
@broderrodents I don't mean to offend you, or anyone here, but the Bible really can't be trusted as a source. And what I really meant was to give me a rational argument for the existence of God.
Anyway, if we are having this discussion, we should have it in a private chat - not in the comment section of Beethoven's 5th symphony - people are here to enjoy this magnificent piece of music, not to debate religion. :)
@broderrodents I've read parts of that site, and have yet to find any actually intelligent argument. All it seems to be is a site, that tries to ignore atheist argument by telling a biased and incomplete version of the argument, and attempting to explain that.
I repeat what I said earlier; I can have this discussion if you want, but not in the comments for Beethoven's video. You started it a discussion here, I answered, but I'll not answer in the comments here again.
were doing a beethoven theme for our marching band show, and during beethoven's fifth (1st movement) instead of going into the relative major section it goes into the beginning of this. which i find works waaaaay better.
Mozart was a genius with music: he composed it like it was childlishly easy. Meanwhile, Beethoven wasn't a genius. But he understood the human emotionally better than anyone else. Simple as that. Thus, his music is better. Doesn't it show in this symphony?
@Camrydrive That comment is speculative at best. Beethoven wrote lots of excellent music, enough in one area, e.g. piano sonatas to match that of other artist. I think he can qualify as a genius along with Mozart.
@TheR3volutionary I'm not saying that Beethoven's music is inherently poor. It's just that while Mozart relied on complex melodies to make great music, Beethoven used dynamics and moving compositions to be the best.
Beethoven definitely did not need electricity to amplify his symphonies. How frustrating he couldn't hear anything at the end of this life. He still decided to keep composing, get past his own feelings, and work on the 9th symphony. How courageous.
@supergoliefriend Sorry to disappoint you, but Berlioz, Schubert, and Schuman, and especially Lizst wrote around 9 symphonies each. This was all in the Romantic period. C'mon dude. And plus Hayden wrote like 104 symphonies(In the Baroque period before him). His are bad ass too.
@supergoliefriend that's not true...there were many great symphonies composed by great composers after Beethoven died, to say that show's that you are partial to Beethoven...but there are many great composers after Beethoven...all the way until 1900
@supergoliefriend Not even close to true. While Brahms' first symphony was not published until 1876, there were quite a lot of active, famous, and loved composers who wrote and published WONDERFUL symphonies during the 51 years in between, from Mendelssohn and Bruckner to Bruch and Tchaikovsky, among DOZENS of others. Check your facts before making such ridiculous statements. Otoh, I suppose this *is* Youtube. The Internet's trash bin.
This is one of the better movements but I do not like how it gets really soft in this movement and others i have to put the volume way done to hear it normally but this i have to crank it up to hear it :( then when the next movement comes it kills my ears. D`:
@bajj597may it seems to me that the "extreme" changes in volume etc are part of the emotional journey. when I listen to the whole symphony, it seems like a really profound portrayal of a huge range of emotion in an uncontrollable cycle from joy to despair and back all over again and again. Beethoven suffered a lot and possibly kept just enough joy or hope to really go pretty mad at times. so in this you can "travel" with him
oh my goodness this is the most beautiful thing i have heard. It is angelic. this piece takes me to a higher level mentally. I found peace and tranquility by listening to this piece of wonderful art.
Was he deaf or something??
saaaammm3 1 day ago
@saaaammm3 He wrote this piece when he was about 34 and he didnt go completly deaf until the last 7 years of his life (age 50-57) but he began to go deaf at age 26 so he was about half way to being completly deaf.
wildboy388 20 hours ago in playlist Beethoven Symphony 5
This is so moving I find it hard to listen to.
TerrySleeper 1 week ago
This is my favourite movement from Beethoven's 5th.
cadmus98 1 week ago
Why do atheists always have to be such dicks? Someone merely says, "Thank God for Beethoven", and then they feel the need to tell them to thank Beethoven instead. It's the same kind of arrogant nerd that corrects your spelling.
cadmus98 1 week ago
thank Ahura Mazda! :P
sapporo81414 1 week ago
Magnificent!
Nikolaybg100 2 weeks ago
thums up for 5:24
novitravnik1986 3 weeks ago in playlist Beethoven Symphonies 1-9
see more Beethoven music in my channel...
youtube.com/watch?v=EmV35VPRT9s
obtica1 1 month ago
can you upload the 5th symphony 2nd movement played by the Berliner Philharmoniker with the conductor david barenboim ?
sounds better than this one
janappeldorn1 1 month ago
I left Classical Music for Rock, Country, Pop, and Metal awhile back and have now come in a full circle. Now I like all of them from Beethoven to Bruno Mars. :D
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Jaasau 2 months ago
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This isn't Beethoven's 5TH Symphony! Get your facts straight!
EminEm61001 2 months ago
@EminEm61001 Are you being sarcastic or are you really just that stupid? It's movement 2. Let me simplify that for you. It's the second part of the 5th symphony which is composed of three parts or movements. The one you're surely thinking about is movement 1.
pianistic61 2 months ago
@pianistic61 I believe its four movements
alskdjfq 2 months ago
@alskdjfq You are correct. I am so use to his sonatas only having 3 movements most of the time that I didn't even think about. In fact some of his other symphonies have 5 movements.
pianistic61 2 months ago
@EminEm61001 This is infact beethoven's fifth symphony however... it is the 2nd movement
xxPWNAGE1212xx 2 months ago
@EminEm61001 so we have spotted the stupid one in the comments, haven't we?
c25ole 1 month ago
I believe Beethoven himself would staunchly decry such a statement. He was a devout believer in God and would probably have gasped at such a comparison. Bach and himself gave much, if not all, credit to God for their gift.
Jaasau 2 months ago
playing all 4 mvts in my youth orchestra, and all of them are amazing! :D gotta love beethoven, the ruddy genius :)
jelidonuts 2 months ago
I just love the way the romantacism, conquers the military threat , in this movement and all is put to rights for a while as the pastoral theme is visited
and loved
petercat1000 2 months ago
It is strange how people start immediately arguing about the existence or no-existence of God (switch from music/ art, to God). This is an indicator that, after all this time, it is still a burning question. Where does music and art come from?!? - still open for discussion...Great music like this is meant to unite people - whether they believe or not. Having said that, Beethoven himself was a BELIEVER (he felt and knew where inspiration comes from) - and I don't want to be cleverer than him
shkodranalbi 3 months ago
@shkodranalbi I've always found it more fascinating to believe that inspiration comes from the human spirit and soul, rather than from a Creator. If that works for you, though, that's great. Glad we could share the experience of BEETHOVEN, friend!
mattrhs2011 2 months ago
This isn't math, bro. This is music.
3tgiac 3 months ago 10
@3tgiac
"Music is math"
grands1am 3 months ago
@grands1am No, Music is Music; but that would be too long to explain you why :D.
bobdylewis 3 months ago
@grands1am If music is math, then houses may well be hammers!
Keiseth 2 months ago
@3tgiac actually, this is math.
Rizcallaakel 1 month ago
@Rizcallaakel
Yes, and it's also chemistry and psychics. Mathematics is a concept that does not psychically exist in reality, that alows as to simplyfie and describe reality. To change them in to clear u unambiguous equation, but it is not math. It can be only described in math. Also, as far as many composers could apply simple rules of mathematics for example concerning the bit, i really don't think they did decide whether it was good or not based on it.
serialkiller1990 1 month ago
@serialkiller1990 Everything is interrelated in one way or another. You could draw a connection between Plah-Doh and Plato.
U2becommenter 4 weeks ago
This version is a little fast.
Re the conversation below, I worship at the church of Ludwig, but still love Tribe Called Quest and Hiromi Uehara (a female jazz Beethoven for the 21st century). And I sing Justin Beiber songs with my 4 1/2 year old daughter - who also loves "Back in the USSR" and the 7th symphony, 4th movement (or "Fun Beethoven" as she calls it).
So it's all good. Some of it happens to be transcendental. Don't worry about pop music leading kids away from the classics.
aquamarine99911 3 months ago
@aquamarine99911 listen to benjamin zander's recording of the fifth and seventh symphony.
He took alot of freedom in "Adagio Sostenuto."
:)
Piratesfannumerouno 4 days ago
@1:09 French national hymn? They Cheated on the Master!!
/watch?v=noBk_mD6GFw
redataoussi 4 months ago
THIS IS SOOOOO BEAUTIFUUUUUUUUUL!!!!!!!!!
shinigami2D 4 months ago
What orchestra and conductor is this?
REBECCAtheSOPRANO 4 months ago 2
In this movement, Beethoven uses the traditional scheme of a Folia, a musical scheme recurrent in Renaissence and Baroque periods
ashtracold 4 months ago
OMG, I feel so good when i hear this...
TiagoHikaru 4 months ago
@elmi59 how is he a mathematical genius
kristoferfir 4 months ago
man, I'm no big fan of classical, but after listening to this, I'd say my attention is caught
max20020012002 5 months ago
Ignore the trolls. They're deliberately trying to be provocative. Just enjoy the Beethoven.
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Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne == Timeless, masterful, forever, greatness
Beethoven, Mozart, Bach == old, tired, dying
Copy and Paste this to every classical video and spread the word!
BrioWoW 5 months ago
@BrioWoW How ignorant. Fuck you troll.
teamramrod456 5 months ago 2
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@teamramrod456 Truth hurts some times. Classical fag.
BrioWoW 5 months ago
@BrioWoW Stupid fuck.
sunburststratocaster 5 months ago
@sunburststratocaster Go suck a dick and listen to your fag music.
BrioWoW 5 months ago
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@BrioWoW I could say the same to you.
sunburststratocaster 5 months ago
@BrioWoW you troll, you dont know anything. GTFO and never come back. After 100 years no one will know who the F is Justin Beiber. Beethoven's music is forever.
warcjg 5 months ago 2
@warcjg Beethoven definitely wasn't gay. The same can't be said for Brio's hero....
PhysicalsimForever 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever WTF are you talking about I never said Beethoven was gay????? There is some thing seriously wrong with you.
warcjg 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever OOHHH now I get it Brio as in the troll with the comment. Sorry my bad mate.
warcjg 5 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever I cant imagine how some one can compare that piece of shit that is Justin ahggg Bieber with The Great Beethoven, seriously Ludwig was a Genius.
warcjg 5 months ago
@warcjg Don't worry. I've had a lot of discussions about this both in and out of YT. A lot of people see me as one of those old-fashioned conservatory types, and don't think I pay enough attention to local culture (I am from New Zealand by the way). I explain this in more detail on my channel.
PhysicalsimForever 5 months ago
This sounds a lot like Tchaikovsky's festival overture.
TechnoL33T 5 months ago
Who wants to sleep? It's a nice sy...zzzzzzzzzz -,-
MyNameIsSoapTF141 5 months ago
lush <3
jgh69 5 months ago
OK ......I have a question for the double bassists here... Am I crazy or I'm hearing a melodies that are similar to Domenico Dragonetti's style? 3:38 - 4:45
KISIMOV 5 months ago
I'm particularly grateful for being a cellist when I can play in such pieces like this symphony ... :)
violinka0517 5 months ago
I am recording this wonderful music as I find it onto a tape, YES a cassette tape. It deserves to be on tape instead of CD, because analog tape helps preserve the depth of the music. If I could get another reel to reel I'd put it on there instead. I use to listen to this growing up, and still love it.
3rednales 5 months ago
Reminds me of mario's castle music
exdragon47 6 months ago
Thank them both!!!!
MrRamto13 6 months ago
go violas! they sound really nice in this piece
paulviolist 7 months ago
The perfect combination of beauty, power, sensitivity. It's amazing how Beethoven was probably in a very lonely, frustrated frame of mind much of the time, yet he still powered thru all the mental crap and created this music!!!
sbdude101 7 months ago
3 people arrogantly believe the Mozart is superior to Beethoven.
SirSebastianWang 7 months ago
@SirSebastianWang That's disputable. I mean, didn't mozart compose 44 symphonies at a younger age than Beethoven? They're pretty good too, maybe not to the length and grandeur of Beethoven's though... But regardless, haters are going to hate.
ERTWbitches 5 months ago
Ludwig von Beethoven, so God-like, so Majestic...how awesomely he overcame so many obstacles & persevered as The Master of Classical Music...what a legacy of awe, beauty, power, intensity he has left for us remaining inmortal...this is amongst my favs of his symphonies...than you very, very kindly for sharing this w/ us, ClassicalArchives!!
angela44ize 7 months ago 4
i noticed the tags were classical and romantic. i thought that was interesting
lindzyIsAwesome 7 months ago
I just recently made the switch from rap music to classical, and dammit im not going back for a long long while. Beethoven you are a mathematical genius, Thank you so much!
elmi59 8 months ago 43
@elmi59 :-)
olizfulovlov 7 months ago
@elmi59 I know! XD I used to hate rap but now I love it and I watched "Beethoven virus" about classical mucis and orchastras and now I'm interested in learning more about classical music also
lovly399 5 months ago
@elmi59 i love this classical shit but how is math related? ive tried googleing it and shit but i cant find it. i love math too.
killerfriend94 5 months ago
@killerfriend94 Music when considering harmonies and chords is about the ratio of frequencies between notes, i'm not mathematically inclined myself so i find it hard to understand, but that's the basic cut and thrust.
A good documentary on the BBC called 'The Code' explained it quite well, try BBC iplayer to find it, unless you're stateside, (I'm assuming you are since you refer to 'maths' in it's singular form), then you'll have to find another way to stream it. Good luck.
D4vy87 5 months ago
@elmi59 yeah right stfu, you're a boss if you can listen to both
dehardehans 5 months ago
@elmi59 It seems kinda stupid to limit yourself to one genre.
ShmexyTube 5 months ago
@elmi59 how can you just switch musical genres? what a load of bullshit
cmonutube 5 months ago
@elmi59 Come on dude, rap is good. Don't limit yourself. I listen to both, so can everyone.
sunburststratocaster 5 months ago
@elmi59 Mathematics is science and Beethoven is an Artist so he was a musical genius.
Bl00DN00B 4 months ago
@elmi59 I both listen to the classical music and rap music. That's what the music is simply meant to be. Both Beethoven and Kanye West are awesome for me.
nopetucker 3 months ago
What a True Masterpiece of Orchestration this is...BRAVO Ludwig...BRAVO Maestro.!!!
guitarpicka1 8 months ago
6:00 is my favorite bit, always has been. This one is faster than the recording I've got though.
Swidhelm 8 months ago
Beautiful music and beautifully played, that is, until the overly zealous percussion comes in and drowns everything.
John Martin
johncmartin100 8 months ago
This is in Civ 4
xof49 8 months ago
I play viola and this is my favorite movement, because of the soli in the beginning! Ah I love it when we get the melody........
vipianola 8 months ago
Which orchestra is this? And the conductor?
kate51982 8 months ago
I think i like the more joyous Beethoven than the tragic, pissed off Beethoven. That painting's, cool by the way. Beethoven's all chillin' in the woods writing music. He's like, "you fellas want some skeezy? I'm selling it for sheezy."
signinname41 9 months ago 2
Gracias Beethoven, por mostrarnos tu alma y por ayudarnos a creer que la eternidad es posible.
duxconcordiae 9 months ago
To be more specific, the chord progression sounds to me like The Four Seasons, the adagio molto of L´Autunno., I think
LuisCarcamoCarcamo 10 months ago
The chord progression at 1:33 - 1:40 reminds me of Vivaldi...can anyone confirm this?
LuisCarcamoCarcamo 10 months ago
Has anyone else ever thought that the little bit at 1:10 that repeats throughout this movement sounds alot like the beginning of "La Marseillaise" the nation anthem of France? Just a thought I've had.
skip8619 10 months ago
@skip8619 i know right?
SeamonkeyW97 10 months ago
you know, i personally don't think this movement really fits in with the others (seeing how it's in a flat major and not c minor). I think this movement is its own entity, its own composition and it's such a shame that it is so underplayed.
nfran227 10 months ago
This movement is cited in book of E.M. Forster: Howards Ends... and related with a goblin (as spirit of negation) but read it, the chapter It's good in a whole.
jijodecoatlicue 10 months ago
@jijodecoatlicue Sorry is the third movement... in the movie play the begining
jijodecoatlicue 10 months ago
my favorite part is 0:00 to 9:12 and 6:45 is the most romantic and dramatic part that i almost cryed
PrInCeShAdE1 10 months ago
6:45: one of the most beautiful sections in the whole symphony!
baroque500 10 months ago
Haha. Anyone else notice the US hymn? ;)
0Santt 11 months ago
@0Santt Not really. There are a couple motifs that are similar to parts of the star-spangled banner, but same could be said for any number of other tunes, including Brahms' lullaby (at 0:59 eg.).
Sakkura1 11 months ago
Good stuff. This guy knew what he was doing. :)
I absolutely love the woodwind in this movement. And yeah, the cello is beautiful.
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that's weird...
they don't really make the cellos do a big part like this
I was expecting a rondo form instead of theme and variations
charlesbai123 11 months ago
that's weird...
they don't really make the cellos do a big part like this
I was expecting a rondo from instead of theme and variations
charlesbai123 11 months ago
@charlesbai123
no, they do, just not by themselves, usually we get melody along with the first violins, not exclusively.
But we do typically get more than the other string sections (2nds, violas, bass).
nahor88 10 months ago
i think so too..
rossmason71 11 months ago
everyone ignores it, but its just so awesome!
Snezhinka9 11 months ago
It is a cruel irony that the one person who is excluded from listening to this glorious music is Beethoven himself as he was completely deaf then.
zagool6 1 year ago
3:37 - 4:35 What a minute (L). Who doesnt like this isnt human.
HerrVladimir 1 year ago
@BuzbyWuzby that was the third that was going to be called napoleon not the fifth
dontiago1995 1 year ago
I bet Napoleon regretted his decision after hearing this!
;-)
BuzbyWuzby 1 year ago
I bet that 3 dislikes were made by mistake...
geodifa 1 year ago 2
@geodifa either that or utter ignorance
hallowedbeeddie 1 year ago
this brings back so many memories.. i practically grew up with beethoven's cd because of my bro who is a classical music lover.. but everytime when i listen to this symphony at different stages of my life, i get something different out of it.. it just proves how timeless and enduring the beauty of classical music is =)
happyseadog23 1 year ago 2
There's a bright relation of identity between God and the Composer. Like in Christ. And probably in eveyone.
superzombie92 1 year ago 3
@superzombie92. What the hell of a crap are you writing there??
19franken95 11 months ago
@19franken95 Well something like an obviousness or whatever...
superzombie92 11 months ago
@superzombie92. Beethoven's work, like everyone else's has NOTHING TO DO with a god whoever. It is the power of human skill, creativity, talent, ability... you name it, not of a divinity up there in heaven. Nonsense. It is funny, you "believers" only link your god (whoever he is) with big achievements such us music, art and so on but tragedies like war, poverty, etc, are "man-made". It is cynical and silly.
19franken95 11 months ago
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superzombie92 11 months ago
@19franken95 My friend, I absolutely agree with you in that human skill is the force that creates all great works. And so your comment become unilateral and poor. God is not up there in heaven but in the whole world and specially in mankind. God is the infinite catalog of posibilities, he's the One and All different in himself. And men are the incarnation of those posibilities, being artists the non-alienated people, then those who must make everyone realise their divinity. That's all.
superzombie92 11 months ago
@superzombie92. Curioso que me digas que mi comentario es pobre. Creo que aporto algo más que las palabras vacías y manidas que escribes en tu comentario. No obstante, ni yo intento convencerte a ti ni tú me vas a convencer a mí. Yo estoy seguro de que dios (o alá o buda o como quieras) no existe y tú crees que es la fuente de todo. Ahora, si dios no da para más que para crear un ser tan lamentable y violento como el hombre no dice mucho en su favor... Cada loco con su tema y hasta otra.
19franken95 11 months ago
@19franken95 Interesting statement!! Such fine enduring work that does seem divine like but nevertheless the human is the divine. We have the power for good and evil. Born of free will. Thanks soo much for this!!
GABYCONSTANZA 11 months ago
wow it's so quiet i can't even hear it at some points! TRUE p!
cloudhatake 1 year ago
Bizarre: this just finished and my washing machine was making the first note of the 3rd movement and so I thought it was tagged on. How strange
gruad999 1 year ago
@gruad999 Haha things like that happen to me all the time. The other day I had a rock song I like stuck in my head, and an ELECTRIC DRILL started making a noise that sounded just like the riff.
...now that I think about it, that probably means it wasn't a very good riff
astridlafantastique 1 year ago
Why do classical songs always have such complicated titles? It makes it hard to find on music websites.
camreeno360 1 year ago
@camreeno360 That's part of the beauty that comes prepackaged with classical music.
Subduedgamer 1 year ago
@camreeno360 5th symphony, 2nd movement. That's not such a complicated name, is it? In comparing to pop music or whatever it's equivalent to the name of the album and the track, eg. Rubber Soul: Norwegian Wood (by the Beatles, obviously).
Andante Con Moto is just an instruction on how it's supposed to be played.
Sakkura1 11 months ago
@Sakkura1 It's not that complicated, but as far as names go, it's complicated. It's like having three different names. Somewhat like addressing someone by their first, middle, and last name when you greet them. Not only that but conductors frequently change the key to their own preferences, which makes it harder to search for a song. And we also have different conductors actually running the music, so when you search for a song on a music site for instance, you get the name of the symphony.
camreeno360 11 months ago
Thank you God for music like this
pancho4vr 1 year ago 5
@pancho4vr That hugely diminishes the magnificent work of Beethoven
fintaneh 1 year ago
@fintaneh Depending on your perspective. I'm assuming you are not Christian in writing this, but I am not either. Think of it this way: As a believer, what greater compliment is there than to say that this music is so transcendent, so divine that it is a gift from God Himself?
sightseek3r 1 year ago
@sightseek3r I agree that your perspective changes whether or not you think the music being from God is a good or bad thing. But I would think that by saying that the music is made by God, you reduce the part that Beethoven played, as you are saying he was merely a co-writer. I think that by acknowledging his independence and ability in his own right, without this outside power, you pay a far greater compliment.
fintaneh 1 year ago
@fintaneh Again, I feel as though... As a pious Christian, the highest compliment you could pay to Beethoven would be to say that your Almighty God, the most benevolent, divine, perfect being, manifested Himself within Beethoven's music. *shrug*
But yeah, I definitely see where you're coming from! I personally wouldn't say this music is a gift from God as I don't believe in God, but it's as divine as it gets :)
sightseek3r 1 year ago
@pancho4vr you say God, I say Beethoven! :)
Devienn 1 year ago 3
@pancho4vr Why would you thank "God"? Thank Beethoven!
Nalenthios 6 months ago 44
@Nalenthios Ludwig might think differently. :-)
vonHes 4 months ago
@Nalenthios Ludwig might think differently. :-)
vonHes 4 months ago
@Nalenthios Well, think of it this way; Jesus gave Beethoven his musical gift!
broderrodents 4 months ago
@broderrodents Do you have any rational reason to believe that?
Nalenthios 4 months ago
@Nalenthios I encourage you to read Romans 12:6-8; yep, it was God who gave Beethoven his outstanding musical abilities!
broderrodents 4 months ago
@broderrodents I don't mean to offend you, or anyone here, but the Bible really can't be trusted as a source. And what I really meant was to give me a rational argument for the existence of God.
Anyway, if we are having this discussion, we should have it in a private chat - not in the comment section of Beethoven's 5th symphony - people are here to enjoy this magnificent piece of music, not to debate religion. :)
Nalenthios 4 months ago 2
@Nalenthios To answer your first question (and then I'll stop! :) ), visit godandscience..org
broderrodents 3 months ago
@broderrodents I've read parts of that site, and have yet to find any actually intelligent argument. All it seems to be is a site, that tries to ignore atheist argument by telling a biased and incomplete version of the argument, and attempting to explain that.
I repeat what I said earlier; I can have this discussion if you want, but not in the comments for Beethoven's video. You started it a discussion here, I answered, but I'll not answer in the comments here again.
Nalenthios 3 months ago
@broderrodents Beethoven got his musical gift from his mother.
mrbrianmccarthy 3 months ago 2
@Nalenthios Beethoven IS God.
Angryification 2 months ago
@Nalenthios
God gave us Beethoven!
jobrumi 1 month ago
@jobrumi Which god?
Nalenthios 1 month ago
@pancho4vr Did you mean Beethoven?
gilipollecesqd 5 months ago
@pancho4vr Thank beethoven instead
jennyischinese 5 months ago 6
were doing a beethoven theme for our marching band show, and during beethoven's fifth (1st movement) instead of going into the relative major section it goes into the beginning of this. which i find works waaaaay better.
imbatman1995 1 year ago
one of the most beautiful movements of any symphony ever
eaglestalon92 1 year ago 2
Mozart was a genius with music: he composed it like it was childlishly easy. Meanwhile, Beethoven wasn't a genius. But he understood the human emotionally better than anyone else. Simple as that. Thus, his music is better. Doesn't it show in this symphony?
Camrydrive 1 year ago
@Camrydrive That comment is speculative at best. Beethoven wrote lots of excellent music, enough in one area, e.g. piano sonatas to match that of other artist. I think he can qualify as a genius along with Mozart.
TheR3volutionary 1 year ago
@TheR3volutionary I'm not saying that Beethoven's music is inherently poor. It's just that while Mozart relied on complex melodies to make great music, Beethoven used dynamics and moving compositions to be the best.
Camrydrive 1 year ago
@Camrydrive Fair enough.
TheR3volutionary 1 year ago
He is a Genius.
JaeCmusic 1 year ago
Simply brilliant.
Michael326 1 year ago
Beethoven definitely did not need electricity to amplify his symphonies. How frustrating he couldn't hear anything at the end of this life. He still decided to keep composing, get past his own feelings, and work on the 9th symphony. How courageous.
sbdude101 1 year ago
:O The viola part is so hard but i barley even hear it in the recording!! bah xP
cloudhatake 1 year ago
why did i always think this was Vincent Van Gogh song????
devilwolv666 1 year ago
@devilwolv666 lmao what?!?! you know Van Gogh was a painter not a composer right?
darkoblivion319 1 year ago
@devilwolv666 You are not serious, are you?
zagool6 1 year ago
After this mans death no one composed a symphony for another 50 years. Enough said hahah
supergoliefriend 1 year ago 5
@supergoliefriend Sorry to disappoint you, but Berlioz, Schubert, and Schuman, and especially Lizst wrote around 9 symphonies each. This was all in the Romantic period. C'mon dude. And plus Hayden wrote like 104 symphonies(In the Baroque period before him). His are bad ass too.
NJSlattery9 10 months ago
@NJSlattery9 Haydn is Classical
EtoGmajor 8 months ago
@supergoliefriend that's not true...there were many great symphonies composed by great composers after Beethoven died, to say that show's that you are partial to Beethoven...but there are many great composers after Beethoven...all the way until 1900
Billy060486 10 months ago 3
@supergoliefriend Not even close to true. While Brahms' first symphony was not published until 1876, there were quite a lot of active, famous, and loved composers who wrote and published WONDERFUL symphonies during the 51 years in between, from Mendelssohn and Bruckner to Bruch and Tchaikovsky, among DOZENS of others. Check your facts before making such ridiculous statements. Otoh, I suppose this *is* Youtube. The Internet's trash bin.
qmorris2 10 months ago 4
is this a beauti or is it just me? :D love it
DizzleBig3 1 year ago
this song has elements of romantic (breaking the rules of the past) and the 19th century rules of music. its a lot in one movement
markov2b1 1 year ago
it's too bad most people only know the DUN DUN DUN DUUUN part of this song.. they're missing out on so much
ludacrisbutler 1 year ago 32
@ludacrisbutler Yes, and especially the 4th movement.
Nuker1337 1 year ago
@ludacrisbutler I agree
masterofhalo27 6 months ago 2
The loud parts sound like a military march. Love 'em.
printz150 1 year ago
@printz150 Yes exactly my thoughts, too!
Nuker1337 1 year ago
Cello beginning WIN
thelittlz 1 year ago
This is one of the better movements but I do not like how it gets really soft in this movement and others i have to put the volume way done to hear it normally but this i have to crank it up to hear it :( then when the next movement comes it kills my ears. D`:
bajj597may 1 year ago
@bajj597may it seems to me that the "extreme" changes in volume etc are part of the emotional journey. when I listen to the whole symphony, it seems like a really profound portrayal of a huge range of emotion in an uncontrollable cycle from joy to despair and back all over again and again. Beethoven suffered a lot and possibly kept just enough joy or hope to really go pretty mad at times. so in this you can "travel" with him
talatzu 1 year ago
The first movement is the most famous, but this second movement is my favorite.
davidbcalhoun 1 year ago 31
hey jivenccy, if you think this is beautiful You should listen to symphony fantastique from Berlioz
jeromo235 2 years ago
oh my goodness this is the most beautiful thing i have heard. It is angelic. this piece takes me to a higher level mentally. I found peace and tranquility by listening to this piece of wonderful art.
jivenccy 2 years ago 4